Rifles built on non-Ruger, aftermarket 10/22 receivers.

[OlongJohnson]

Just did a search for "BRN-22" and got zero hits. How is that possible? I figure we need a thread for talking about aftermarket receiver builds in 10/22 format. Because who wants to wade through a week of rabbit holes at RFC?

Question that prompted this thinking: Has Brownells unf'ed themselves with regard to BRN-22 quality issues yet?

[Pnut]

Not exactly a 10/22 clone, but I own a Magnum Research (MR) 77/22 in .22 WMR. It differes from their 22LR version because it has a larger bolt and uses a gas system to handle the magnum round. It’s definitely a nice piece. MR makes it in .22LR as well and I’m sure it is more of a 10/22 clone.

MR machines their own bolts and receivers, but use Ruger mags. I think they also use Ruger trigger assemblies. I dropped in a Ruger BX trigger into my magnum and it worked fine. They also use their own barrels. My rifle came with their carbon fiber wrapped bull barrel.

[David S.]

If I were in the market, I’d give a hard look at the Thompson T/C22

[OlongJohnson]

If I were in the market, I’d give a hard look at the Thompson T/C22

Has S&W un-f'ed itself since 2018?

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/02/review-thompson-center-tcr22/


I was more thinking about the way I build ARs. Picking out quality parts to put together a rifle with all the features I want at the best price I can figure out, without having to buy something and upgrade it and throw away a bunch of parts.

[CleverNickname]

I SBR'ed a Kidd receiver awhile back. I figured I might as well do as nice a receiver as I could since I'll be stuck with it. No complaints. The Enoch Deep Six chassis and Midwest Industries folding stock are the third or fourth stock I've had for it, and I think I'm finally happy with this one.

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[Flamingo]

I have a KIDD 10/22 that I have a TacSol SBX (I think) barrel on it. It is a 12 inch barrel with a 4 inch cage that goes over my suppressor. I have been using it for pest duty in the yard.

[awp_101]

Question that prompted this thinking: Has Brownells unf'ed themselves with regard to BRN-22 quality issues yet?
Are they even selling them anymore? I thought they blew them out on clearance a year or two ago,

[OlongJohnson]

Are they even selling them anymore? I thought they blew them out on clearance a year or two ago,

Got an email today that they are in stock.

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/rifle-receivers/index.htm?avs|Manufacturer_1=brownells

[awp_101]

Hmmm, I didn’t need to know that.

Brownells didn’t send me an email. I feel so left out…

[OlongJohnson]

Jeez, I've just stood on the edge and looked down into the rabbit hole. A person could get sucked in and spend a lot of money down there.

[bofe954]

What do they end up at when you price out everything? I always figured it'd cost the same to buy a Volquartsen or something (about $1500).

[awp_101]

Jeez, I've just stood on the edge and looked down into the rabbit hole. A person could get sucked in and spend a lot of money down there.
Oh yeah. It’s like the AR and 1911 rabbit holes had a love child. A buddy says 10/22 builds are the quickest way to spend $1K on a $300 rifle.


What do they end up at when you price out everything? I always figured it'd cost the same to buy a Volquartsen or something (about $1500).

It depends on what you want it to do, how top shelf you want to go and how good you are at finding deals/how patient you are waiting for a deal to come up.

[Pnut]

I found this article about a few 10/22 style relievers:

https://blog.refactortactical.com/blog/best-ruger-10-22-receiver

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Has S&W un-f'ed itself since 2018?

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/02/review-thompson-center-tcr22/


I was more thinking about the way I build ARs. Picking out quality parts to put together a rifle with all the features I want at the best price I can figure out, without having to buy something and upgrade it and throw away a bunch of parts.

Are you asking about the extractor issue for Smith and Wesson? If so my first 15-22 had that issue and a return fixed it. The second one didnt have that problem.
Curious about what the purpose of this rifle will be.

[theJanitor]

I have a brownells receiver with a TacSol barrel. I've no complaints but I only use it for plinking with my young son. I replaced the ruger receiver when I was troubleshooting a misaligned KRG stock.

[Sal Picante]

I SBR'ed a Kidd receiver awhile back. I figured I might as well do as nice a receiver as I could since I'll be stuck with it. No complaints. The Enoch Deep Six chassis and Midwest Industries folding stock are the third or fourth stock I've had for it, and I think I'm finally happy with this one.

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I'll be in my bunk...

[OlongJohnson]

Are you asking about the extractor issue for Smith and Wesson? If so my first 15-22 had that issue and a return fixed it. The second one didnt have that problem.
Curious about what the purpose of this rifle will be.

No specific intent, other than an accurate range toy.

So far, it looks like the typical program is, buy this expensive part, that expensive part, those expensive parts, and have a modicum of skill while putting them together to not f the whole thing up, and then set about testing a bunch of ammunition, including the premium stuff, to find what it likes best. You will probably end up with a semi-auto that's almost as accurate as an off the shelf bolt gun that cost half as much.

Am I getting close?

[rathos]

I built one on their takedown receiver a couple of years ago when they cleared out the threaded take down barrels. I haven't tested it for groups but I ran it at 25 and 50 yards on on steel plates before I retired at my old department range and was able to get hits pretty easy. I cleared out a 333 rd box of winchester, about 50 of the remington golden bullets and around 100 various other rounds and didn't run into any issues. It fed from the ruger 25 round and 10 round mags without issue. I used mostly "competition" parts for the internals and a steel trigger group I bought off eBay. My brother also built one and it also runs pretty well. He is able to keep it at an inch at 50 yards with cheap ammo.

So far I would say I trust it. Might put a red dot on it as I picked up a t-2 with a 10/22 mount from aim point.

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No specific intent, other than an accurate range toy.

So far, it looks like the typical program is, buy this expensive part, that expensive part, those expensive parts, and have a modicum of skill while putting them together to not f the whole thing up, and then set about testing a bunch of ammunition, including the premium stuff, to find what it likes best. You will probably end up with a semi-auto that's almost as accurate as an off the shelf bolt gun that cost half as much.

Am I getting close?

I like this guys videos shooting standard ammo here with I thought pretty good groups. Ive looked at building them too and Id just go buy a Kidd. Ive read several times people with off the shelf solution eventually going with the Kidd trigger.

https://ozziereviews.com.au/ruger-10-22-kidd-custom-rifle/

This doesnt display properly on my phone so you might want to try it on a different format.

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Heres another option. https://www.ct-precision.com/

My buddy who does airgun work does a lot of barrels. Its a lot of work he dials them in on the lathe then cuts the chamber and lead in with a reamer he made. He feels that and reaming the muzzle are the most important. Of course airguns are choked and he has his own design apparatus for doing a precision choke.

The other important issue is the bore on center. There was a run of airgun barrels that had the bore off center and people were having horrible accuracy issues on a high dollar custom air gun. He did a ton of barrels for that problem.

I only mention this because the average guy has no way of running these checks or the knowledge to do so.

[md8232]

I'm interested in where this thread goes. While searching my shop for something else, I found a Ruger receiver that I bought a few years ago.
I'm at 3 Ruger 22's and a CZ 455 now. Guess I need to burn down the CC over at Coolguy's.

[awp_101]

No specific intent, other than an accurate range toy.

So far, it looks like the typical program is, buy this expensive part, that expensive part, those expensive parts, and have a modicum of skill while putting them together to not f the whole thing up, and then set about testing a bunch of ammunition, including the premium stuff, to find what it likes best. You will probably end up with a semi-auto that's almost as accurate as an off the shelf bolt gun that cost half as much.

Am I getting close?

Pretty much. My builds are generally a “passion and fun of the rimfire” thing so I usually pick up gently used off RFC or eBay, the clearance section of VQ or the sale page of a couple other vendors.

One thing I do want to splurge on someday is having a barrel and receiver threaded by someone like Randy at CPC.

[tango-papa]

I SBR'ed a Kidd receiver awhile back. I figured I might as well do as nice a receiver as I could since I'll be stuck with it. No complaints. The Enoch Deep Six chassis and Midwest Industries folding stock are the third or fourth stock I've had for it, and I think I'm finally happy with this one.

90733

The rules state you can't go posting up a rifle like that and not provide a detailed build/spec list...

Just saying.

If you don't mind, would like to see the specifics on that extra cool SBR.

[HeavyDuty]

I’ve done a few 10/22 builds over the years, one of which (on a Tactical Machining upper) still needs to be finished. I’ve always enjoyed how you can make a 10/22 into just about anything. One of my favorites is a lightweight with a 16” tapered fluted barrel and a RDS in a Hogue stock - it’s so tossable that it’s silly.

[CleverNickname]

The rules state you can't go posting up a rifle like that and not provide a detailed build/spec list...

Just saying.

If you don't mind, would like to see the specifics on that extra cool SBR.

Kidd receiver, bolt, charging handle, 3lb single-stage trigger & 10" barrel
Enoch Deep Six chassis
Midwest Industries folding stock
Magpul MOE K2 grip
YHM Wraith silencer
Vortex Crossfire red dot

[tango-papa]

Kidd receiver, bolt, charging handle, 3lb single-stage trigger & 10" barrel
Enoch Deep Six chassis
Midwest Industries folding stock
Magpul MOE K2 grip
YHM Wraith silencer
Vortex Crossfire red dot

Thanks, that's a really nice list of components.

[mmc45414]

One of my favorites is a lightweight with a 16” tapered fluted barrel and a RDS in a Hogue stock - it’s so tossable that it’s silly.
I have a factory Ruger stainless in a Hogue with just Williams fiber optic peeps on it, and it is very nice.


So far, it looks like the typical program is, buy this expensive part, that expensive part, those expensive parts, and have a modicum of skill while putting them together to not f the whole thing up, and then set about testing a bunch of ammunition, including the premium stuff, to find what it likes best. You will probably end up with a semi-auto that's almost as accurate as an off the shelf bolt gun that cost half as much.
I place some value on not buying all of the expensive things at the same time. If I never do a spreadsheet I will never really know/remember how much I spent/blew.


Oh yeah. It’s like the AR and 1911 rabbit holes had a love child. A buddy says 10/22 builds are the quickest way to spend $1K on a $300 rifle.
Well, since LaRue just shipped my handguard (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?47740-RFI-Ready-to-upgrade-free-float-handguards&p=1373585&viewfull=1#post1373585) I will soon have all of the ARs exactly the way I want them, soooooo

I have had this picture floating around for a few months:

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For some reason I am not all that enamored by a AR in .22, but this seems like a cool compromise. I need to get caught from buying the hole in the water I have been pouring money into, but after that, maybe...

[Pnut]

Who makes that 10/22 chassis?

[mmc45414]

Who makes that 10/22 chassis?The picture I posted is Midwest Industries.

https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/MI-1022-FC13-Ruger-1022-Chassis-p/mi-1022-fc13.htm

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[awp_101]

I have had this picture floating around for a few months:

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That reminds me, I don’t have a tacticool 10/22 right now…
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[Pnut]

Tempting… but I just dropped some coin for the Magpul stock. Plus, the cost of the chassis and the additional cost for AR furniture wouldn’t make it cost effective for me.

[mmc45414]

Tempting… but I just dropped some coin for the Magpul stock. Plus, the cost of the chassis and the additional cost for AR furniture wouldn’t make it cost effective for me.Cost effective? What is this unfamiliar term?.....

GaG seems to have a decent price, and I would have leftover AR stuff, at least to start with.

https://grabagun.com/midwest-industries-chassis-for-ruger-10-22-models-13.html

I was thinking I might get one, drop the current 10/22 into it to see if I like it, then start gathering parts. Then I was thinking this could ultimately be cool with one of the integrally suppressed barrels.

But am juat talking smack right now, I have been hemorrhaging cash in a couple other areas.

[awp_101]

I haven't looked at the specs for that MI setup but weight and balance would be a concern to me. Still kicking around (and lightly resisting) the idea of a KISS takedown build.


Cost effective? What is this unfamiliar term?.....
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[mmc45414]

I haven't looked at the specs for that MI setup but weight and balance would be a concern to me. Still kicking around (and lightly resisting) the idea of a KISS takedown build.

MI has the same thing for take down, and some shorter handguards (that might be better for me also...). Weight and balance could probably be somewhat adjusted with barrel profile (sleeved barrel?) and handguard length.

I am interested in something that might clone my AR setup without being reliant on a 22 AR. Seems like some of them chug right along and some not so much, would rather have another version of the 10/22 we all know and love.

ETA: MI also has this nifty little item, the SIG Romeo 5 would seem to be a good companion.
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/MI-Ruger-1022-T1-M-Lok-Optic-Mount-p/mi-1022-t1m.htm

[HeavyDuty]

Hera Arms just released a new polymer based chassis type 10/22 stock that appeals to me - I may see what I have laying around that would work well in one of them.

[awp_101]

Fletcher OpenTop 11/22 Receiver (https://www.fletcherrw.com/product/opentop-11-22/)


https://youtu.be/re0YPNudvVU

[mmc45414]

For some reason I am not all that enamored by a AR in .22, but this seems like a cool compromise. I need to get caught from buying the hole in the water I have been pouring money into, but after that, maybe...

The picture I posted is Midwest Industries.

I am interested in something that might clone my AR setup without being reliant on a 22 AR. Seems like some of them chug right along and some not so much, would rather have another version of the 10/22 we all know and love.

So I did take the plunge, back in November of twenty and twenty-two. I have been meaning to post about it, as soon as I got it setup the way I want it...
Have the Vid again, so the thousand points of light may have come together this weekend.
The process involved first shooting it enough to make sure it wasn't a bad idea, then tweak it out the way I wanted. The basics:


BRN22 Receiver
Midwest Industries chassis
Faxon Barrel
Can't remember the bolt I bought...
Magpul Stock, Grip, VFG, MBUS, cheek riser
Trijicon MRO
Midwest Industries low QR MRO mount
EGW Scope Rail (that I had to clearance for the handguard)


Crappy picture:

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Part of the reason I bought this is because I think I need more offhand carbine practice. Most of my carbine shooting is at multigun matches, and it is difficult to develop a sense for how quickly you can shoot when it is in a match. My plan is to take this thing every time I go do pistol practice and crank off 100-150 22LR while I am there (though we may be finally, after fifty years, losing access to our weekly private area...).

Some of the configuration resulted from stuff I had, or had intended for another use. The MI MRO mount was planned for my M590, but it ended up needing the highest SGA cheekpiece and was just too different from all of my other shotguns I abandoned that idea. I originally went with a MI M-Loc Aimpoint micro mount with a Romeo5, but it was too low to do what I wanted, mainly emulating an AR.


I have a factory Ruger stainless in a Hogue with just Williams fiber optic peeps on it, and it is very nice.

The sights do not really co-witness, but I decided since I have the QR base on the optic I can remove it when I want to get some peep sight training, er I mean fun (I should know I cannot BS this crowd) so I but the backup sights on. Plus they were also available in grey, so I couldn't resist it since they match the other stuff.
Also I am trying to truncate things and adding the peeps onto the tactic-cool 10/22 could make the stainless gun available for sale.

At this point I would say the fun gun is done. Maybe. Maybe not.... (https://tacticalsol.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=1425867&CAT=13302) :cool:

[HeavyDuty]

So I did take the plunge, back in November of twenty and twenty-two. I have been meaning to post about it, as soon as I got it setup the way I want it...
Have the Vid again, so the thousand points of light may have come together this weekend.
The process involved first shooting it enough to make sure it wasn't a bad idea, then tweak it out the way I wanted. The basics:


BRN22 Receiver
Midwest Industries chassis
Faxon Barrel
Can't remember the bolt I bought...
Magpul Stock, Grip, VFG, MBUS, cheek riser
Trijicon MRO
Midwest Industries low QR MRO mount
EGW Scope Rail (that I had to clearance for the handguard)


Crappy picture:

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Part of the reason I bought this is because I think I need more offhand carbine practice. Most of my carbine shooting is at multigun matches, and it is difficult to develop a sense for how quickly you can shoot when it is in a match. My plan is to take this thing every time I go do pistol practice and crank off 100-150 22LR while I am there (though we may be finally, after fifty years, losing access to our weekly private area...).

Some of the configuration resulted from stuff I had, or had intended for another use. The MI MRO mount was planned for my M590, but it ended up needing the highest SGA cheekpiece and was just too different from all of my other shotguns I abandoned that idea. I originally went with a MI M-Loc Aimpoint micro mount with a Romeo5, but it was too low to do what I wanted, mainly emulating an AR.



The sights do not really co-witness, but I decided since I have the QR base on the optic I can remove it when I want to get some peep sight training, er I mean fun (I should know I cannot BS this crowd) so I but the backup sights on. Plus they were also available in grey, so I couldn't resist it since they match the other stuff.
Also I am trying to truncate things and adding the peeps onto the tactic-cool 10/22 could make the stainless gun available for sale.

At this point I would say the fun gun is done. Maybe. Maybe not.... (https://tacticalsol.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=1425867&CAT=13302) :cool:

How is it working out for you? I’ve been in a 10/22 groove lately finishing up a few projects that were languishing. Having a club where I can shoot is a real motivator.

One thing I don’t have is anything like yours. It has great appeal.

[mmc45414]

How is it working out for you?
I have not done enough rounds through it to do a true endorsement, but I am happy I built it.
It was not quite as much of a direct corollary to the AR as I predicted, but I really didn't want just a rechambered AR. One thing that was a little wacky was optic height. They make a very cool M-lok mount that goes on the handguard and I put a Romeo5 on it, but it was just too low. You could use it, but just unnatural. Then when I put something on a higher mount it was too high, I ended up with that little cheekpiece (no charging handle interference to worry about) and it is like the proper bowl of porridge.
The sights are kinda goofy, but I added them with the idea of being able to shoot (or train a new shooter) on peeps, and this would open up the possibility of selling the rifle with peep sights, because I really am trying to truncate stuff. Really. Really, I am. But the peep sight rifle is pretty neat...
It is very small and compact, seemingly more so that just the measurements. Sometimes I wish I had done a takedown, but the thing is so petite I wonder if that would really add anything.
I spent more on it than I had intended by building up a new rifle instead of just taking the one I had and dropping it in, but I just acknowledge there are certain costs associated with me being me.

The main problem has been that I got it all set the way I wanted before the weather got nasty, and while we would shoot year round bringing extra guns out when it is cold/raining/snowing just doesn't get done. I bought five of the 25rnd mags, planning to just plink some steel when we were done shooting our group pistol practice, but just about when I when I was ready to start doing that as planned we lost access to the venue we have been using for about the last fifty years (am 65, was invited into the group when I was about 19), so my habits have changed. Have been doing two monthly multigun matches (the reason I wanted more carbine practice) but not doing much practicing at the club I belong to. I still have every expectation of doing so, but right now am consumed with a buncha boat projects... :cool:

[HeavyDuty]

Thanks for the update! I keep dreaming up silly 10/22 project ideas, like a SBRed Charger in the short version of the MI chassis like yours with a LAW folder and an entry length A2 stock. Never happen but fun to think about!

[El Cid]

I built a "10/22" several years ago where the only Ruger parts are the magazines. For the receiver I went with Tactical Solutions - great reputation and integral pic rail on top. The barrel is the Gemtech MIST-22, and the stock from Magpul. The trigger is from Kidd. The nice thing about the can is that it's ridiculously quiet. As in, the stapler on your desk is probably louder as long as I use subs. And the design makes it look like a regular bull barrel so it doesn't scare the sheeple (more than a regular gun would anyway).

https://imgur.com/ccOSJqY