Shadow Systems CR920

[G19Fan]

These are in the wild at Scheels Colony TX

Just ordered one and should have it in hand by the weekend.

Hope to do a mini review once I spend some time with it.

[G19Fan]

Some pics. Shooting it tomorrow

https://imgur.com/a/X8FBOn7

First pic is next to G43. It's actually the same size, the G43 was placed a bit higher

Second pic is the G43 on top of the CR920

3rd pic is side by side

Initial impressions:

Trigger is nice

Rear sight is super tight, needs to be drifted left as it was a little to the right

Manually cycles everything from 115 grain fmj to 147 grain jhp

G43 slide is interchangeable (live fire to come)

G43 slide parts seem interchangeable, except firing pin (new shadow systems rounded pin)

Believe most of the lower parts will be interchangeable but the trigger housing uses a G17/G19 style spring vs how the G43 is setup.

Fits perfectly in a Phlster Skeleton G48 holster (used with Enigma)

Too tight for a JMCK wingclaw 2.5 G48 holster

Works with Raven Vanguard 2 for a G43

If reliable I think it has chance to eat into G43 and G43x sales

10+1 G43 sized

13+1 G43x sized

Hope these proprietary mags run vs the Shield Arm mags. They look similar to the Shield Arms mags which give me mag PTSD lol

[G19Fan]

Bullet feed angle. Looks good to me vs the really shallow angle for the S15s

https://imgur.com/a/Zoh5CX6

[Biggy]

Once available, the Holosun EPS 6 MOA dot should direct mount/bolt right on. I will be getting the combat version with no slide cut out window.

[G19Fan]

Once available, the Holosun EPS 6 MOA dot should direct mount/bolt right on. I will be getting the combat version with no slide cut out window.

Yeah unf those may be a while (the optic version with no slide cutout). Initially I wanted that one too.

From my understanding their are prioritizing combat cut with no optic. Or optic and window.

That said this window is relatively inoffensive.

I can't wait or the EPS, but really hope it's a 2 MOA. It's going to be irons only till the EPS is out.

[Biggy]

Here is the one I want. https://www.riflegear.com/p-18272-shadow-systems-cr920-combat-9mm-pistol-black-black-barrel.aspx

[G19Fan]

Here is the one I want. https://www.riflegear.com/p-18272-shadow-systems-cr920-combat-9mm-pistol-black-black-barrel.aspx

Nice the shadow system event to shoot these guns is happening this Saturday. Hopefully they are for sale right after.

[Kirk]

This looks incredible. I can't find any on Gunbroker yet. Any idea when they might be more widely available?

[Biggy]

I can't wait and I admit I like three ways, plus my other two need a little brother for backup.

https://i.imgur.com/OoKFON5l.jpg

[G19Fan]

This looks incredible. I can't find any on Gunbroker yet. Any idea when they might be more widely available?

If you call Scheels at Colony TX you can order one and they will ship to your ffl. They are the only shop allowed to sell pre official launch on April 9th.

Otherwise I think end of the month

[Biggy]

Shadow Systems new compensator version pistol is currently in stock at Scheel's Appleton store.


https://www.scheels.com/p/shadow-systems-dr920p-elite-optic-ready-full-size-pistol/81001343748.html

[Kirk]

If you call Scheels at Colony TX you can order one and they will ship to your ffl. They are the only shop allowed to sell pre official launch on April 9th.

Otherwise I think end of the month

Awesome, thank you!

[G19Fan]

Awesome, thank you!

Hope you get one! They were selling pretty quick when I called.

[G19Fan]

Pic with mags vs my EDC MR918 (with Gen 4 Glock OEM slide)

Top is 10 +1

Bottom 13 + 1

https://imgur.com/a/f7uM0n5

The mags seat fine on a closed chamber fully loaded. Since I download my G19 mags by 1, I'm losing one round only

If this is reliable it may be a perfect summer carry. Will probably not perform as well on splits vs a G19

[G19Fan]

5 shots at 31 yards offhand 1/2 sized ipsc. Aiming point is the knob. One run per gun only. So what you see is what I shot.

G19 shot with Tula Ammo. Everything else blazer brass

G19 has a 509T and is a training gun setup like my EDC

CR920 is irons as is G43

In order:

G19

CR920 (13 round mag)

CR920 (10 round mag)

G43

https://imgur.com/a/YHQMZsz

[G19Fan]

10 yards offhand. One run per gun only

G19 training gun shot with Tula Ammo. Everything else blazer brass

https://imgur.com/a/VdscDDe

[G19Fan]

Bill drills. Shot at 10 yards. Best run out of 3 runs per gun shown.

G43 is faster on this set but slower on average than the CR920 with flush fit mag

https://imgur.com/a/9xKr0FC

[G19Fan]

CR920 was reliable. No issues through 300 rounds including 100 rounds mixed JHP (124 grain HST, 124 grain gold dot, 124 grain hydrashok, and mystery meat jhp)

A G43 upper will NOT run on a CR920 frame. It jammed pretty hard after 3 rounds and had to be bashed open

CR920 recoil feels better than. g43 and a g43x. I personally don't like the G43X recoil though. The CR920 w extended mag recoil feels more like a G48 to me.

[Noboundries]

I've been drooling over this since shot, and am very excited to finally hear from owners.

But you saying a g43 upper doesn't work is a real bomb dropped on my reasons to get it.

Does the SS slide run on a g43 lower?

I ask because my full intent was to use the slide occasionally on a 43x frame to have 15rd capacity. And the main reason for me to buy one is to mount a dot.

Sounds like i might be better off just buying a dot compatible slide, or acquiring a 43xmos if i can ever even find one.

I'm incredibly surprised it's not compatible, i know it's their first fully bespoke model but still, i expected slide compatibility...

[Tokarev]

A G43 upper will NOT run on a CR920 frame. It jammed pretty hard after 3 rounds and had to be bashed open.

Interesting. What's dimensionally different?

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[G19Fan]

Interesting. What's dimensionally different?

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I believe the barrel feed ramp profile. I'm 90% sure if I were to throw the CR920 barrel into a G43 slide it would have run.

That said I didn't try it.

The CR920 itself was perfect. The G43 slide hand cycled fine initially but after 3 rounds became pretty unhappy.

[Actsda]

CR920 was reliable. No issues through 300 rounds including 100 rounds mixed JHP (124 grain HST, 124 grain gold dot, 124 grain hydrashok, and mystery meat jhp)

A G43 upper will NOT run on a CR920 frame. It jammed pretty hard after 3 rounds and had to be bashed open

CR920 recoil feels better than. g43 and a g43x. I personally don't like the G43X recoil though. The CR920 w extended mag recoil feels more like a G48 to me.


Do the CR920 mags run in the G43?
Thanks

[G19Fan]

Do the CR920 mags run in the G43?
Thanks

Do not believe so. Haven't tried.

[G19Fan]

Do the CR920 mags run in the G43?
Thanks

Checked won't fit

[G19Fan]

Interesting. What's dimensionally different?

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Here you go!

https://imgur.com/a/iVN9g9S

G43 Barrel compared to CR920 Barrel

Also both barrels in a G43 slide.

Notice the CR920 is slightly more u shaped feed ramp. That's why an OEM G43 barrel gets hung up

[Biggy]

I picked mine up today from my FFL I got it from Rifleworks.com . I didn't want to wait on a black barrel combat version, so I went with a little gold barrel bling. Shadow Systems *had* 13 rd CR920 mags available for a short time today and as of right now still have 10rd mags available. Looked it over and everything seemed fine. Out of the box the trigger is nothing to write home about, but that will smooth out and lighten up some with use. Hopefully I can get out this weekend and do a little blasting. At some point I might put a Holosun EPS carry MRDS on it.

https://i.imgur.com/FhoPOyKl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ha34Qwol.jpg

[G19Fan]

I picked mine up today from my FFL I got it from Rifleworks.com . I didn't want to wait on a black barrel combat version, so I went with a little gold barrel bling. Shadow Systems *had* 13 rd CR920 mags available for a short time today and as of right now still have 10rd mags available. Looked it over and everything seemed fine. Out of the box the trigger is nothing to write home about, but that will smooth out and lighten up some with use. Hopefully I can get out this weekend and do a little blasting. At some point I might put a Holosun EPS carry MRDS on it.

https://i.imgur.com/FhoPOyKl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ha34Qwol.jpg


Nice! I need yo get more mags for mine. Lol

[cornstalker]

I picked up a CR920 yesterday. Seems like it is going to be a good gun, but I have to resolve a few little things before I shoot it. This is a recording of events only and is not intended to be a negative on Shadow Systems. I will reserve that opinion until I understand what the fix is.

While removing the plate from the optics cut, one screw came right out. The 2mm socket head in the other screw gave way and rounded out. I lightly pounded a slightly larger Torx bit in there and it rounded out also. I then lightly pounded a size 0 square drive in there and it came out. One bad screw and about three minutes of wasted time. No big deal.

In the optics mounting chart in the owner's manual, it calls for screw number 2 for the RMSc, which is the cap screw style, but my RMSc does not have a tapered seat on the screw holes. It actually requires the number 1 screw, which is a pan head screw.

The chart also shows that there are two spacers for mounting optics. One is marked with a "+" sign, the other with a "+" sign that has a circle around it. Of the two that came in the bag, one has the "+" with a circle around it(which the Shield calls for), the other just has a circle on it. The instructions say that the spacer should be installed first, then the optic should be lightly pressed into the pocket to make sure it is down flat against the bottom. Mine does indeed sit flat on the bottom, but then the screw holes are misaligned by about half of a hole. When I bolt the optic on without the spacer installed in the front of the pocket, there is a gap between the rear of the optic and the back wall of the pocket.

I called tech support and left a message early this afternoon. I am curious what they will have to say. It is entirely possible that I may be doing something wrong, but I can't see it. I would swallow my pride for a simple fix... :p

I will update after I hear from tech support.

I will add that the screw thread engagement with the Shadow Systems cut is the best I have seen so far.

Gap in front. That is where the spacer is supposed to go.

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Gap in the back when screw holes are aligned.

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[G19Fan]

I picked up a CR920 yesterday. Seems like it is going to be a good gun, but I have to resolve a few little things before I shoot it. This is a recording of events only and is not intended to be a negative on Shadow Systems. I will reserve that opinion until I understand what the fix is.

While removing the plate from the optics cut, one screw came right out. The 2mm socket head in the other screw gave way and rounded out. I lightly pounded a slightly larger Torx bit in there and it rounded out also. I then lightly pounded a size 0 square drive in there and it came out. One bad screw and about three minutes of wasted time. No big deal.

In the optics mounting chart in the owner's manual, it calls for screw number 2 for the RMSc, which is the cap screw style, but my RMSc does not have a tapered seat on the screw holes. It actually requires the number 1 screw, which is a pan head screw.

The chart also shows that there are two spacers for mounting optics. One is marked with a "+" sign, the other with a "+" sign that has a circle around it. Of the two that came in the bag, one has the "+" with a circle around it(which the Shield calls for), the other just has a circle on it. The instructions say that the spacer should be installed first, then the optic should be lightly pressed into the pocket to make sure it is down flat against the bottom. Mine does indeed sit flat on the bottom, but then the screw holes are misaligned by about half of a hole. When I bolt the optic on without the spacer installed in the front of the pocket, there is a gap between the rear of the optic and the back wall of the pocket.

I called tech support and left a message early this afternoon. I am curious what they will have to say. It is entirely possible that I may be doing something wrong, but I can't see it. I would swallow my pride for a simple fix... :p

I will update after I hear from tech support.

I will add that the screw thread engagement with the Shadow Systems cut is the best I have seen so far.

Gap in front. That is where the spacer is supposed to go.

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Gap in the back when screw holes are aligned.

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Interesting hopefully this gets resolved

[GJM]

One of my Shadow pistols came missing one of the optic shims. I was unsuccessful reaching them by phone. They responded after several days by email, and sent a replacement.

[cornstalker]

Thanks GJM
I will try the email. It has only been 24 hours since I left a voicemail, but there may be no point in waiting.

[G19Fan]

Thanks GJM
I will try the email. It has only been 24 hours since I left a voicemail, but there may be no point in waiting.

I would def email them. Always had good service that way even if it may take a week or two. I think they are now too understaffed for phone calls

[cornstalker]

Given the predictably long response times from SS, I sanded a few thousandths off of the insert and got it to work well enough.

I do wish the pocket were cut correctly so that the screw holes would line up when the back of the optic is against the back wall of the pocket. The optics cut in my XR920 worked great with a Holosun. I don’t know what optic fits the pocket on the CR920 like they describe in the manual, but it is not a Shield RMSc.

We will see how it goes. Hopefully I can burn some rounds through it tomorrow.

[il duce]

https://shadowsystemscorp.com/product/cr920-magazine-13-round-extended/

In stock for now

[Tokarev]

https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/shadow-systems-dr920p-cr920-handguns/459678?utm_source=ALL+SUBSCRIBERS+Shadow+Systems&utm_campaign=6979695a5a-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_11_18_02_38_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1dbb029783-6979695a5a-572842241&goal=0_1dbb029783-6979695a5a-572842241&mc_cid=6979695a5a&mc_eid=73189cdcca

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[il duce]

Picked mine up Friday. Took it apart to clean and it was coated in the copper grease. Hoping to get out to the range to put 200 down it this afternoon.

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[cornstalker]

The mailman brought me a Tenicor Certum 3 holster today. It fits the CR920 perfectly. This is my first Tenicor product. So far I am impressed.

[G19Fan]

The mailman brought me a Tenicor Certum 3 holster today. It fits the CR920 perfectly. This is my first Tenicor product. So far I am impressed.

Lucky. I love their products but they never conceal well for me. But love the brand, quality, and customer service

[Biggy]

The mailman brought me a Tenicor Certum 3 holster today. It fits the CR920 perfectly. This is my first Tenicor product. So far I am impressed.

IMHO, the Tenicore Certum 3 holster is an excellent choice for carrying the SS CR920 either IWB or AIWB. It has all kinds of adjustability for ride height and cant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSo9YWo7288

https://youtu.be/bbFctcDh73U


Also, as of right now Riflegear.com has 13rd and 10rd CR920 Mags in stock. https://www.riflegear.com/p-18615-shadow-systems-cr920-9mm-13rd-magazine.aspx

https://www.riflegear.com/p-18616-shadow-systems-cr920-9mm-10rd-magazine.aspx


https://i.imgur.com/vcDmDuml.jpg

[cornstalker]

Thanks for the tip on the magazines Biggy

The Tenicor conceals very well for me. In fact, I really have to push my hips forward to make the CR920 print against a tee shirt.

The lack of a wedge makes it very comfortable, and it is not so long that I am at risk of clipping a nut off.

[Thy.Will.Be.Done]

Given the predictably long response times from SS, I sanded a few thousandths off of the insert and got it to work well enough.

I do wish the pocket were cut correctly so that the screw holes would line up when the back of the optic is against the back wall of the pocket. The optics cut in my XR920 worked great with a Holosun. I don’t know what optic fits the pocket on the CR920 like they describe in the manual, but it is not a Shield RMSc.

We will see how it goes. Hopefully I can burn some rounds through it tomorrow.

The insert is designed to be oversized so I would say you've defeated their intent and should get in touch with them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6t5Gkcm-g0

[Thy.Will.Be.Done]

Thanks for the tip on the magazines @Biggy (https://pistol-forum.com/member.php?u=11530)

The Tenicor conceals very well for me. In fact, I really have to push my hips forward to make the CR920 print against a tee shirt.

The lack of a wedge makes it very comfortable, and it is not so long that I am at risk of clipping a nut off.

After having some recent issues along those same lines, I can say testicle trauma is not something to play around with if you can help it.

Good to hear about the printing, I see one of these in my future for sure... really want to try Tenicor's ARX to carry this OWB. Looks perfect.

[cornstalker]

The insert is designed to be oversized so I would say you've defeated their intent and should get in touch with them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6t5Gkcm-g0

The spacer is so oversized that the bolt holes were misaligned by nearly half with it installed. That is far more than can be overcome by compression fit. What defeated the purpose of the spacer is the mounting holes being too far forward. Please note the gap behind the optic in my photo. That is with the optic pushed toward the back as far as it will go to take up the couple of thousandths of clearance between the screw and the screw hole in the optic. Simply put, things don't line up as described in the manual.

[cornstalker]

The optic cut on my XR920 worked as described with no issues. The issue I had is with a CR, which is a completely different cut. Apples and oranges.

[Noboundries]

250rd magtech 115g, 30rd assorted JHP.

I had an issue at around 150, it was odd It picked up the next round but I had a dead trigger, I press checked to see if maybe I held the slide release on last round or something. And sure enough there was one in it and the press check alone reset the trigger and I was issue free until my ftf.

I had 1 failure to feed at round ~260 it was a 147g hp and I think it was due to running a bit dry. I planned to lube more often and then I forgot, but I added some lube and ran 30 more assorted hp's without issue.

It shoots incredibly flat, even with the flush mag, the recoil impulse while sharp just returns so easily even with my inexperienced grip. To date I have about 1200 rounds through pistols and 280 was today.

I will say that the trigger was very heavy, and there was so much creep after the false wall the break is hard to find. I have 5 hours of dry fire before this trip and don't remember it being that difficult maybe it was grip fatigue plus me struggling with zero prior experience trying to zero a red dot.

The Kimber mako is much snappier imo, but the trigger is just about a billion times better.

Overall I'm happy with my choice as option 2 was the Kimber, but I need more time to feel competent with it, I really wasn't as accurate as I wanted to be.

[cornstalker]

I reached the end of the prescribed 200-round break-in period today. I had one piece of brass hit me in the face. Also had one failure to eject. I am curious to see how it does going forward.

[G19Fan]

250rd magtech 115g, 30rd assorted JHP.

I had an issue at around 150, it was odd It picked up the next round but I had a dead trigger, I press checked to see if maybe I held the slide release on last round or something. And sure enough there was one in it and the press check alone reset the trigger and I was issue free until my ftf.

I had 1 failure to feed at round ~260 it was a 147g hp and I think it was due to running a bit dry. I planned to lube more often and then I forgot, but I added some lube and ran 30 more assorted hp's without issue.

It shoots incredibly flat, even with the flush mag, the recoil impulse while sharp just returns so easily even with my inexperienced grip. To date I have about 1200 rounds through pistols and 280 was today.

I will say that the trigger was very heavy, and there was so much creep after the false wall the break is hard to find. I have 5 hours of dry fire before this trip and don't remember it being that difficult maybe it was grip fatigue plus me struggling with zero prior experience trying to zero a red dot.

The Kimber mako is much snappier imo, but the trigger is just about a billion times better.

Overall I'm happy with my choice as option 2 was the Kimber, but I need more time to feel competent with it, I really wasn't as accurate as I wanted to be.

You may be able to replace the connector to adjust your trigger pull a bit

[G19Fan]

250rd magtech 115g, 30rd assorted JHP.

I had an issue at around 150, it was odd It picked up the next round but I had a dead trigger, I press checked to see if maybe I held the slide release on last round or something. And sure enough there was one in it and the press check alone reset the trigger and I was issue free until my ftf.

I had 1 failure to feed at round ~260 it was a 147g hp and I think it was due to running a bit dry. I planned to lube more often and then I forgot, but I added some lube and ran 30 more assorted hp's without issue.

It shoots incredibly flat, even with the flush mag, the recoil impulse while sharp just returns so easily even with my inexperienced grip. To date I have about 1200 rounds through pistols and 280 was today.

I will say that the trigger was very heavy, and there was so much creep after the false wall the break is hard to find. I have 5 hours of dry fire before this trip and don't remember it being that difficult maybe it was grip fatigue plus me struggling with zero prior experience trying to zero a red dot.

The Kimber mako is much snappier imo, but the trigger is just about a billion times better.

Overall I'm happy with my choice as option 2 was the Kimber, but I need more time to feel competent with it, I really wasn't as accurate as I wanted to be.

What was accuracy like for you?

[Noboundries]

What was accuracy like for you?

I'll be honest I feel like a super accurate machine in dry fire and most range trips in the last years I've not lived up to my own expectations.

But for instance last month I could hold comfortable groups at 10 yards using controlled pairs and trios with the g48. That had 400 rounds through it, and the trigger has as an adjustable Johnyglocks shoe on it.

Today id say the groups were twice as big at 15 feet because I never got comfortable enough to even go to 20. I tried to zero at 10 yards. Thought I had it, apparently I didn't, maybe the hex wasp shifted? Idk.

As far as inches idk. But at the end I adjusted the sight again and put 20 rounds of pairs into let's say a 3inch circle at 15 feet.

I would guess half my issue was the dot but when squeezing through the false wall that dot was bouncing all over the place. So I want to blame the trigger and my inadequate grip/experience.

I never felt accurate through 500 rounds with a g43 but I always figured it was the sight radius. Now that I have a dot my only excuse left it trigger lol. Maybe I'm just trash.

[G19Fan]

I'll be honest I feel like a super accurate machine in dry fire and most range trips in the last years I've not lived up to my own expectations.

But for instance last month I could hold comfortable groups at 10 yards using controlled pairs and trios with the g48. That had 400 rounds through it, and the trigger has as an adjustable Johnyglocks shoe on it.

Today id say the groups were twice as big at 15 feet because I never got comfortable enough to even go to 20. I tried to zero at 10 yards. Thought I had it, apparently I didn't, maybe the hex wasp shifted? Idk.

As far as inches idk. But at the end I adjusted the sight again and put 20 rounds of pairs into let's say a 3inch circle at 15 feet.

I would guess half my issue was the dot but when squeezing through the false wall that dot was bouncing all over the place. So I want to blame the trigger and my inadequate grip/experience.

I never felt accurate through 500 rounds with a g43 but I always figured it was the sight radius. Now that I have a dot my only excuse left it trigger lol. Maybe I'm just trash.

The dot will bounce a little on the break shouldn't affect accuracy as long as your follow through is good.

Imo if you wanna get accurate, 10 yards shoot at a bunch of dots that are nickel or dime sized. 3 shots hit a dot. Failing is under 60% of dots being hit in 3 shots.

This will tighten up distance groups too but still shoot at 25 and 50 yards.

Don't use steel unless you hold self accountable l it allows top much slopm

[G19Fan]

I'll be honest I feel like a super accurate machine in dry fire and most range trips in the last years I've not lived up to my own expectations.

But for instance last month I could hold comfortable groups at 10 yards using controlled pairs and trios with the g48. That had 400 rounds through it, and the trigger has as an adjustable Johnyglocks shoe on it.

Today id say the groups were twice as big at 15 feet because I never got comfortable enough to even go to 20. I tried to zero at 10 yards. Thought I had it, apparently I didn't, maybe the hex wasp shifted? Idk.

As far as inches idk. But at the end I adjusted the sight again and put 20 rounds of pairs into let's say a 3inch circle at 15 feet.

I would guess half my issue was the dot but when squeezing through the false wall that dot was bouncing all over the place. So I want to blame the trigger and my inadequate grip/experience.

I never felt accurate through 500 rounds with a g43 but I always figured it was the sight radius. Now that I have a dot my only excuse left it trigger lol. Maybe I'm just trash.

Do you have huge hands? Smaller guns may be harder

[Noboundries]

The dot will bounce a little on the break shouldn't affect accuracy as long as your follow through is good.

Imo if you wanna get accurate, 10 yards shoot at a bunch of dots that are nickel or dime sized. 3 shots hit a dot. Failing is under 60% of dots being hit in 3 shots.

This will tighten up distance groups too but still shoot at 25 and 50 yards.

Don't use steel unless you hold self accountable l it allows top much slopm

The dot was moving so much I know my trigger press was greatly effecting my accuracy, even on the rest when I was trying to sight it in.

I also love dot drills, the range I was at is by the hour so I was just trying to burn it down I'll get drills in on the next trip.

I do wear XXL gloves. But I think other than trigger pull I have a good grip on the thing and don't really adjust my grip between shots like you see a lot of people do.

I could also be over gripping because none of these issues presented themselves during dry fire even though I try to grip it with the same strength dry or live.

I'm going to clean it tonight and dry fire for an hour or so and try to see what's been going on.

Anyone in Washington want to let me borrow a mantis? Haha

[G19Fan]

The dot was moving so much I know my trigger press was greatly effecting my accuracy, even on the rest when I was trying to sight it in.

I also love dot drills, the range I was at is by the hour so I was just trying to burn it down I'll get drills in on the next trip.

I do wear XXL gloves. But I think other than trigger pull I have a good grip on the thing and don't really adjust my grip between shots like you see a lot of people do.

I could also be over gripping because none of these issues presented themselves during dry fire even though I try to grip it with the same strength dry or live.

I'm going to clean it tonight and dry fire for an hour or so and try to see what's been going on.

Anyone in Washington want to let me borrow a mantis? Haha

Interesting. Maybe change the connector?

Do you have this issue with a G19?

[GJM]

Not sure if it has been done previously, but can someone do a compare and contrast between the CR920 and the 365 family?

[Noboundries]

Interesting. Maybe change the connector?

Do you have this issue with a G19?

I don't think I have this issue with the 19, I have only shot a 17 a handful of times and never shot a 19.

Fwiw I don't have this issue with the 48, and I don't feel like I do with the 43 either. My issue with the 43 I feel has always been sight radius, and it beating me up with +p lol.

What I should probably do is take a class, and shoot more lol.

I also think I've changed my mind and will swap my 43 and cr920 triggers for the next range trip to see if that makes me more confident.

[G19Fan]

I don't think I have this issue with the 19, I have only shot a 17 a handful of times and never shot a 19.

Fwiw I don't have this issue with the 48, and I don't feel like I do with the 43 either. My issue with the 43 I feel has always been sight radius, and it beating me up with +p lol.

What I should probably do is take a class, and shoot more lol.

I also think I've changed my mind and will swap my 43 and cr920 triggers for the next range trip to see if that makes me more confident.

I believe those triggers will not swap without a big of modification. I would out thr cr920 slide on the g43 and see how it is first

[Noboundries]

I believe those triggers will not swap without a big of modification. I would out thr cr920 slide on the g43 and see how it is first

Others have reported perfect reliability with 43 triggers. I haven't seen reports of solid reliability with swapping slides because of the difference in feed angles however.

[G19Fan]

Others have reported perfect reliability with 43 triggers. I haven't seen reports of solid reliability with swapping slides because of the difference in feed angles however.

I had issues swapping slides but if I did barrel and slide it ran.

Let me know of if triggers swap! That be awesome

[G19Fan]

I think I got lucky and I really like my CR920 trigger haha

[DMCutter]

Not sure if it has been done previously, but can someone do a compare and contrast between the CR920 and the 365 family?

+1. I love my MR920s but I've had a 365 in my pocket for 4 years. The WC grip fits my hand perfectly. I was really wanting a CR but it would have to do something extra special to supplant my 365.

[G19Fan]

Not sure if it has been done previously, but can someone do a compare and contrast between the CR920 and the 365 family?

We also own a few p365xls. My wife edcs a p365xl

Cr920 with 13 round mag is around same size as p365xl with 12 rounder.

Cr920 with 10 round mag is a tad smaller than a p365 with 10 round mag (I believe)

I like the cr920 trigger and grip angle better (a p365 or p365xl never points right for me, due to most of my rounds being through a mr920). My wife does not have this problem. She vastly prefers the p365xl.

Imo p365xl has a more pleasant recoil impulse. I do have to change my norm grip for g43/g43x/g48 and the cr920. Otherwise the beaver tail pummels the bone on my strong side thumb

Cr920 may have a chance for better reliability, my wife has had some trigger reset issues on the p365xl. Namely trigger doesn't reset when pinned back during recoil then released (aka shooting the reset(. I could not replicate that issue even shooting that way.

The p365xl mags imo are less reliable than glock mags too. Not sure vs cr920 mags. We had 3 sig p365xl mags stop feeding after 500 or so rounds. Gun fed other mags

It is a shame she hates the glock family (hates the recoil impulse)

I am happy to answer other questions

[Noboundries]

I believe those triggers will not swap without a big of modification. I would out thr cr920 slide on the g43 and see how it is first

Did about an hour of dry fire swapping the triggers around today.

I don't have a guage but it seemed to me that the 43 trigger in the cr was lighter but a rolling break but still very clean.

The cr trigger in the 43 felt about the same weight as the original 43 trigger but again a rolling break but also clean.

Should be noted I swapped the entire trigger housings, bars and shoes as 1 unit, I think we should have no reliability issues when doing this and I think shadow systems did an amazing job of dodging patents while maintaining compatibility!

As far as live fire reliability idk but I plan to bring the 43 with me my next range trip and see what combo I like best. I also plan to polish both triggers before said trip as I haven't done those yet and the wife's 48 is better than both of them after it's polish. I still do think I'll end up selling the 43 soon though since the cr other than trigger bests in it every category.

I much prefer a 2 stage trigger, I've mainly shot Glocks and I like the ability to take the slack out and know when it's going to break exactly. I'm sure with experience a rolling break would give me the same confidence but today I prefer a solid wall with as little creep as possible.

Has anyone else played around with their cr trigger?

I didn't think I was a trigger snob but I'm not satisfied with it especially considering it's price tag. I am thinking maybe my accuracy issues have been due to over gripping though, I was kind of rushed in my trip and stressed for family reasons, where today's dry fire I was able to keep the dot still during the break.

[G19Fan]

Did about an hour of dry fire swapping the triggers around today.

I don't have a guage but it seemed to me that the 43 trigger in the cr was lighter but a rolling break but still very clean.

The cr trigger in the 43 felt about the same weight as the original 43 trigger but again a rolling break but also clean.

Should be noted I swapped the entire trigger housings, bars and shoes as 1 unit, I think we should have no reliability issues when doing this and I think shadow systems did an amazing job of dodging patents while maintaining compatibility!

As far as live fire reliability idk but I plan to bring the 43 with me my next range trip and see what combo I like best. I also plan to polish both triggers before said trip as I haven't done those yet and the wife's 48 is better than both of them after it's polish. I still do think I'll end up selling the 43 soon though since the cr other than trigger bests in it every category.

I much prefer a 2 stage trigger, I've mainly shot Glocks and I like the ability to take the slack out and know when it's going to break exactly. I'm sure with experience a rolling break would give me the same confidence but today I prefer a solid wall with as little creep as possible.

Has anyone else played around with their cr trigger?

I didn't think I was a trigger snob but I'm not satisfied with it especially considering it's price tag. I am thinking maybe my accuracy issues have been due to over gripping though, I was kind of rushed in my trip and stressed for family reasons, where today's dry fire I was able to keep the dot still during the break.


Nice I like my cr920 trigger but love the oem glock trigger. Maybe falx and housing

[Noboundries]

Nice I like my cr920 trigger but love the oem glock trigger. Maybe falx and housing

Does yours have a crisp wall or the tons of creep everyone seems to be moaning about including myself?

I wish there was a way to try all the triggers on the market before buying lol. Even these slimlines have a ton of options!

[G19Fan]

Does yours have a crisp wall or the tons of creep everyone seems to be moaning about including myself?

I wish there was a way to try all the triggers on the market before buying lol. Even these slimlines have a ton of options!

My wall is pretty crisp. I may want to try a oem minus connector

[backtrail540]

I had the opportunity to handle one at my favorite shop today.

Texture was good as expected from my experience with the fullsize. Trigger had a much heavier and defined wall. Serrations were good and made slide manipulation easy. Mag release seemed useable. Overall size w/ extension was good. If I was into shadow systems and guns in that size range, I would consider vetting one. Felt like it is a slimmed down version of the bigger guns, as it should/is.

Final impression was as expected. If you like the features of the dr/xr/mr guns then this will probably appeal to you in the same way if you're looking for a slim and small variant. If you don't think the big guns are worth the extra over a stock glock then you probably won't see anything here worth your extra cash either.

[G19Fan]

Shot 300 rounds through the cr920 alternating with a glock 19 today (500 or so rounds). Lots of running and gunning and drills

The cr920 had 4 or 5 failure eject issues. Casing gets stuck trying to extract (casing is still horizontal). Need to drop the mag then eject it again.

My g19 had one failure to extract tap rack cleared it.

All with 115 grain blazer brass.

In general I love my cr929 but it is not quite vetted yet imo.

[cornstalker]

Shot 300 rounds through the cr920 alternating with a glock 19 today (500 or so rounds). Lots of running and gunning and drills

The cr920 had 4 or 5 failure eject issues. Casing gets stuck trying to extract (casing is still horizontal). Need to drop the mag then eject it again.


That is very similar to the failure to eject I experienced in my break-in period. If you are still running iron sights I am less inclined to take my optic back off and check for Loctite migration. I hope that is not a sign of things to come, because customer service at Shadow Systems is in an abysmal state right now.

I emailed Shadow Systems about my CR920 optics mounting woes. I asked four questions. Over a week later I received a non-answer to one question and no response at all on the other three. They are sending a new spacer kit but offered nothing useful in regards to the misalignment. I think the company has a lot of promise, and I hope this is just growing pains. They really need to get their poop in a group sooner rather than later.

[G19Fan]

That is very similar to the failure to eject I experienced in my break-in period. If you are still running iron sights I am less inclined to take my optic back off and check for Loctite migration. I hope that is not a sign of things to come, because customer service at Shadow Systems is in an abysmal state right now.

I emailed Shadow Systems about my CR920 optics mounting woes. I asked four questions. Over a week later I received a non-answer to one question and no response at all on the other three. They are sending a new spacer kit but offered nothing useful in regards to the misalignment. I think the company has a lot of promise, and I hope this is just growing pains. They really need to get their poop in a group sooner rather than later.

I am still running the irons. It is stunning to me how their customer service has fallen out as they used to be amazing

[Kanye Wyoming]

I am still running the irons. It is stunning to me how their customer service has fallen out as they used to be amazing
They were, in fact, amazing.


I’ll also add that their customer service is A+++. They are the nicest guys around, and passionate about making sure you’re happy. I had a question about a spring and one of their guys was on the phone with me for a half hour and gave me his cell phone number in case I wanted to follow up about my issue or anything else.

I guess they’ve grown too big too quickly.

[G19Fan]

They were, in fact, amazing.



I guess they’ve grown too big too quickly.

Sadly I think so too. I had the same experience as you. My first mr920 initially had some issues. They worked it out with me, sent the new parts, and called back to follow up. This was during covid too. Incredible customer service at the time.

Def growing pains but that is unf what happens with growth. As long as the cr920 is reliable overtime I am ahooy.

[GJM]

They were, in fact, amazing.



I guess they’ve grown too big too quickly.

I saw a pretty negative post on a bunch of issues with them over on Enos. They certainly seem to be a victim of their success, which is too bad as their pistols have some innovative features.

[cornstalker]

Sadly I think so too. I had the same experience as you. My first mr920 initially had some issues. They worked it out with me, sent the new parts, and called back to follow up. This was during covid too. Incredible customer service at the time.

Def growing pains but that is unf what happens with growth. As long as the cr920 is reliable overtime I am ahooy.

Do the failures to eject make you feel like that is headed in the right direction?

[G19Fan]

Do the failures to eject make you feel like that is headed in the right direction?

Def not. May need to try a oem glock 43 extractor or g43 slide on a cr920.frame (again)

[cornstalker]

I like the idea of trying the extractor. If I get hit in the face with another piece of brass or experience another failure to eject, I will do the same. If that shows improvement I might order an Apex failure resistant extractor.

Do we know for a fact that the extractor is interchangeable with Glock?

[Noboundries]

I like the idea of trying the extractor. If I get hit in the face with another piece of brass or experience another failure to eject, I will do the same. If that shows improvement I might order an Apex failure resistant extractor.

Do we know for a fact that the extractor is interchangeable with Glock?

I'd say I'd swap them and check but i have to take my optic off to do so lol.

I'd imagine it is though. I think the only difference is the extractor depressor plunger and spring, and their retaining pin for it of course lol.

[P226SAOFan]

I wish I could buy just the frame to try and swap over all my 43x parts and use their mag.

[G19Fan]

I like the idea of trying the extractor. If I get hit in the face with another piece of brass or experience another failure to eject, I will do the same. If that shows improvement I might order an Apex failure resistant extractor.

Do we know for a fact that the extractor is interchangeable with Glock?

Comparing parts 99% sure it is.

Thr primary issue seems to be my extractor (I believe) otherwise it has run like a champ. I have the optic ready slide but wish I had a non optic slide as I may not put an optic on it

[cornstalker]

GJM

P365XL compared to CR920 with the 13-round mag installed.

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[GJM]

The 920 is attractive looking.

[HeavyDuty]

It would take one thing to make me look seriously at moving to these from Glocks, at least for subcompacts.

A SCD.

[D-der]

The 920 is attractive looking.

Yes it is...
I'm curiously awaiting your comparison to a 365 / XL

[cornstalker]

I just got back from a good range session. 200 rounds through the CR920. No stoppages. No failures to eject. I did get one piece of brass in the glasses and one near miss. Another bounced off of my hat. While shooting five-round strings working on cadence, I hit the slide release lever and locked the slide open after the fifth shot, twice. There were three instances where it felt like the slide was reciprocating in slow motion, but it did not stop. All of the weirdness happened while shooting Fed AE 124 grain ammo. I then shot a box of Blazer Brass 115's and a box of Federal 115 "Range-Practice-Target". No issues of any kind with the 115's.

I will say that in my opinion, the claims that the CR920 shoots like a full-sized gun are BS. The gun shoots very well, but it shoots like a 17-ounce 9mm. You have to drive it a lot harder than a larger gun. Big surprise. It's been a while since I have shot a P365xl, but from what I recall, I think it is the closest to "shooting like a full size".


I also ran another 100 rounds of AE 147's through the XR920. That thing is pure sex. I love it. It's wearing an HS407CO. I like the 8 moa circle.

Off topic: It happened to be HK demo day at the gun club so I got to run 60 rounds through a full-auto MP5k. A first for me. That was awesome!

[GJM]

I just got back from a good range session. 200 rounds through the CR920. No stoppages. No failures to eject. I did get one piece of brass in the glasses and one near miss. Another bounced off of my hat. While shooting five-round strings working on cadence, I hit the slide release lever and locked the slide open after the fifth shot, twice. There were three instances where it felt like the slide was reciprocating in slow motion, but it did not stop. All of the weirdness happened while shooting Fed AE 124 grain ammo. I then shot a box of Blazer Brass 115's and a box of Federal 115 "Range-Practice-Target". No issues of any kind with the 115's.

I will say that in my opinion, the claims that the CR920 shoots like a full-sized gun are BS. The gun shoots very well, but it shoots like a 17-ounce 9mm. You have to drive it a lot harder than a larger gun. Big surprise. It's been a while since I have shot a P365xl, but from what I recall, I think it is the closest to "shooting like a full size".


I also ran another 100 rounds of AE 147's through the XR920. That thing is pure sex. I love it. It's wearing an HS407CO. I like the 8 moa circle.

Off topic: It happened to be HK demo day at the gun club so I got to run 60 rounds through a full-auto MP5k. A first for me. That was awesome!

This is the smallest pistol I have that shoots nearly as well as a mid size. With the extended mag I guess it is near mid size.

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[G19Fan]

I just got back from a good range session. 200 rounds through the CR920. No stoppages. No failures to eject. I did get one piece of brass in the glasses and one near miss. Another bounced off of my hat. While shooting five-round strings working on cadence, I hit the slide release lever and locked the slide open after the fifth shot, twice. There were three instances where it felt like the slide was reciprocating in slow motion, but it did not stop. All of the weirdness happened while shooting Fed AE 124 grain ammo. I then shot a box of Blazer Brass 115's and a box of Federal 115 "Range-Practice-Target". No issues of any kind with the 115's.

I will say that in my opinion, the claims that the CR920 shoots like a full-sized gun are BS. The gun shoots very well, but it shoots like a 17-ounce 9mm. You have to drive it a lot harder than a larger gun. Big surprise. It's been a while since I have shot a P365xl, but from what I recall, I think it is the closest to "shooting like a full size".


I also ran another 100 rounds of AE 147's through the XR920. That thing is pure sex. I love it. It's wearing an HS407CO. I like the 8 moa circle.

Off topic: It happened to be HK demo day at the gun club so I got to run 60 rounds through a full-auto MP5k. A first for me. That was awesome!


Yea the p365xl imo shoots better. But the cr920 shoots much better than a g43

G26 shoots the best but it is fat. I may wanna trade my cr920 for a g26

[G19Fan]

I just got back from a good range session. 200 rounds through the CR920. No stoppages. No failures to eject. I did get one piece of brass in the glasses and one near miss. Another bounced off of my hat. While shooting five-round strings working on cadence, I hit the slide release lever and locked the slide open after the fifth shot, twice. There were three instances where it felt like the slide was reciprocating in slow motion, but it did not stop. All of the weirdness happened while shooting Fed AE 124 grain ammo. I then shot a box of Blazer Brass 115's and a box of Federal 115 "Range-Practice-Target". No issues of any kind with the 115's.

I will say that in my opinion, the claims that the CR920 shoots like a full-sized gun are BS. The gun shoots very well, but it shoots like a 17-ounce 9mm. You have to drive it a lot harder than a larger gun. Big surprise. It's been a while since I have shot a P365xl, but from what I recall, I think it is the closest to "shooting like a full size".


I also ran another 100 rounds of AE 147's through the XR920. That thing is pure sex. I love it. It's wearing an HS407CO. I like the 8 moa circle.

Off topic: It happened to be HK demo day at the gun club so I got to run 60 rounds through a full-auto MP5k. A first for me. That was awesome!

Mp5k is amazing esp full auto.

My cr920 I feel will never be g19 reliability but it probably will be about my g43's reliability level

[G19Fan]

Mp5k is amazing esp full auto.

My cr920 I feel will never be g19 reliability but it probably will be about my g43's level of reliability

Oops fat finger

[cornstalker]

If the CR920 can prove to be reliable, I have a role for it.
I personally like the 43, and have yet to experience a failure with it. Maybe I will shoot the two side by side just to see if there is an obvious difference. Same with the 43x.

[cornstalker]

I was able to run .22 splits and keep the dot in the A zone at 7 yards with the CR920. It took some work.
The XR920 produced .19 splits with much less effort, as one might expect. Given the size of the CR, I am happy with that.

[il duce]

Took my CR to the range finally and put 200 rounds through it. I didn’t have any failure to ejects but I did have 6 failure to feed in the first 3 mags. After the third mag I had no other issues aside from my grip causing me to ride the slide stop so it wouldn’t lock back.

[G19Fan]

I was able to run .22 splits and keep the dot in the A zone at 7 yards with the CR920. It took some work.
The XR920 produced .19 splits with much less effort, as one might expect. Given the size of the CR, I am happy with that.

Sounds right. Yeah the bigger ones are easier for sure if I really push close range I can once in a while hit 0.16 ot 0.17 with a mr920 but generally 0.18 ot 0.19

.22 with a cr920 is good. That is my happy place too for that size.

My g43 didnt want to feel hollowpoints until I went to a Suarez spring.

For me the g43 really hammers the bone in the back of my right thumbm the cr920 doesn't and I can fire it all day

[G19Fan]

Took my CR to the range finally and put 200 rounds through it. I didn’t have any failure to ejects but I did have 6 failure to feed in the first 3 mags. After the third mag I had no other issues aside from my grip causing me to ride the slide stop so it wouldn’t lock back.

Nice at least that is still within the breakin period

[G19Fan]

Sounds right. Yeah the bigger ones are easier for sure if I really push close range I can once in a while hit 0.16 ot 0.17 with a mr920 but generally 0.18 to 0.19

.22 with a cr920 is good. That is my happy place too for that size.

My g43 didnt want to feed hollowpoints until I went to a Suarez spring.

For me the g43 really hammers the bone in the back of my right thumbm the cr920 doesn't and I can fire it all day

[Noboundries]

For me the g43 really hammers the bone in the back of my right thumbm the cr920 doesn't and I can fire it all day

Only other person I've heard mention that. Everyone looks at my bloody thumb and assumes I don't know how to grip the gun. It's a tiny gun there is literally no room if I want any support palm to even get close to touching the grip I need to sacrifice the thumb.

I will say though mole skin tape has really helped the issue, the 43, 43x, 48, and cr920 all bite me about the same. I thought the beavertail would help on the cr, I was dreaming.

Some would argue that I should find a gun that doesn't bite because Im not going to apply mole skin in a defensive situation. I don't think ill be worried about my thumb then.

Curious have you ever caused a malf from it? I haven't yet but I need to shoot more anyway.

[G19Fan]

Only other person I've heard mention that. Everyone looks at my bloody thumb and assumes I don't know how to grip the gun. It's a tiny gun there is literally no room if I want any support palm to even get close to touching the grip I need to sacrifice the thumb.

I will say though mole skin tape has really helped the issue, the 43, 43x, 48, and cr920 all bite me about the same. I thought the beavertail would help on the cr, I was dreaming.

Some would argue that I should find a gun that doesn't bite because Im not going to apply mole skin in a defensive situation. I don't think ill be worried about my thumb then.

Curious have you ever caused a malf from it? I haven't yet but I need to shoot more anyway.

That is interesting. Do you have huge hands? I actually have small hands.

I try to grip all these gun the same way I grip a g19. The G43 will hammer the base of my dominant hand humb unless I do something completely different with my support hand.

The cr920 I love because I can grip it the same way and be fine. This is because the glock 43 beavertail has a slight curve down vs the cr920 which is straight back (end of yhe beavertail)

I have not had a malfunction due to this. And I agree it is not something to be worried about in a defensive situation. Usually I can shoot around 100 rounds out of a g43 before it bothers me. But I get a wicked callous and open blister there with a g43

[Noboundries]

That is interesting. Do you have huge hands? I actually have small hands.

I try to grip all these gun the same way I grip a g19. The G43 will hammer the base of my dominant hand humb unless I do something completely different with my support hand.

The cr920 I love because I can grip it the same way and be fine. This is because the glock 43 beavertail has a slight curve down vs the cr920 which is straight back (end of yhe beavertail)

I have not had a malfunction due to this. And I agree it is not something to be worried about in a defensive situation. Usually I can shoot around 100 rounds out of a g43 before it bothers me. But I get a wicked callous and open blister there with a g43

That's incredibly interesting that you have small hands. Mine are pretty big yeah but I'm not shaq or anything lol.

[G19Fan]

That's incredibly interesting that you have small hands. Mine are pretty big yeah but I'm not shaq or anything lol.

Yeah I have small hands. Just how I come out of holster with a g19 and cr920 doesn't work for the lower curve of a g43 beavertail. I hate that small curve lol

[G19Fan]

My cr920 how runs perfectly with 3 or 4 g43/48 slides

[cornstalker]

My cr920 how runs perfectly with 3 or 4 g43/48 slides

Nice. I have an G43xmos upper with a PMM Micro JTTC comp. I will run that thing on the lower as soon as I get an optic on it.

[cornstalker]

I put a G43xMOS upper that has a Wolff 5-pound striker spring on the CR920 lower. It instantly improved the trigger on the CR920 to an obvious degree. Lighter and smoother. The CR920 trigger feels a bit crunchy with the factory upper on it.

Similarly, I put the SS upper on my G43x lower that has an SSVI Tyr trigger. It instantly felt crunchy and heavier. Now I am curious what parts interchange so I can try to clean that up.

[G19Fan]

I put a G43xMOS upper that has a Wolff 5-pound striker spring on the CR920 lower. It instantly improved the trigger on the CR920 to an obvious degree. Lighter and smoother. The CR920 trigger feels a bit crunchy with the factory upper on it.

Similarly, I put the SS upper on my G43x lower that has an SSVI Tyr trigger. It instantly felt crunchy and heavier. Now I am curious what parts interchange so I can try to clean that up.

It is the striker safety plunger!

A cr920 with a g43 slide is awesome

Let me know if your slide swap shoots!

[cornstalker]

Manually manipulating the safety plunger and the striker, the slight gritty feeling appears to be in the striker.

[G19Fan]

Manually manipulating the safety plunger and the striker, the slight gritty feeling appears to be in the striker.

That would be worse then as the striker is proprietary.

If I can consistently get a g43 slide to run I may run a g43 slide

[cornstalker]

It is the striker safety plunger!

A cr920 with a g43 slide is awesome

Let me know if your slide swap shoots!

Do you know if the safety plunger is interchangeable with a Glock 43?

[G19Fan]

Do you know if the safety plunger is interchangeable with a Glock 43?


Should be I believe

[cornstalker]

I think I have one that is NP3'ed. If I can find it I will try it. I am curious to take a look at the striker assembly too.

[G19Fan]

I think I have one that is NP3'ed. If I can find it I will try it. I am curious to take a look at the striker assembly too.

The issue is the cr920 striker is rounded =(

[Noboundries]

Do you know if the safety plunger is interchangeable with a Glock 43?

I just tested this last night. The plungers look identical to the naked eye, I didn't have calipers on hand though.

Changing the plunger will only help if going to a polished one and reduced spring. I need to take my optic off to see if the extractor is the issue.

My safety plunger actually sits so dang high it interacts with the slide, I'm not sure why shadow decided on that being ok.

A g43 OEM plunger in the ss slide sits at the same height since they seem to be identical parts.

Fwiw a polished plunger took my SS from miserable to shoot to shootable. I plan to polish the striker and housing and plunger before my next range trip and see how it does.

Shadow can fix this by building a plunger or extractor that while proprietary would set the plunger at a height closer to g43 OEM, and that would stop rubbing the slide!

[G19Fan]

I just tested this last night. The plungers look identical to the naked eye, I didn't have calipers on hand though.

Changing the plunger will only help if going to a polished one and reduced spring. I need to take my optic off to see if the extractor is the issue.

My safety plunger actually sits so dang high it interacts with the slide, I'm not sure why shadow decided on that being ok.

A g43 OEM plunger in the ss slide sits at the same height since they seem to be identical parts.

Fwiw a polished plunger took my SS from miserable to shoot to shootable. I plan to polish the striker and housing and plunger before my next range trip and see how it does.

Shadow can fix this by building a plunger or extractor that while proprietary would set the plunger at a height closer to g43 OEM, and that would stop rubbing the slide!

Thanks for doing this! I assumed it was something in the internal of the slide causing this.

I think their extractor may be same as a g43 too (not 100% sure)

[Noboundries]

Thanks for doing this! I assumed it was something in the internal of the slide causing this.

I think their extractor may be same as a g43 too (not 100% sure)

If their extractor is the same, that means the eps system sits lower In the slide, which would make sense. Either way, they could have resigned the safety plunger to take up the difference. And im surprised they didn't.

Maybe a polished plunger and lighter spring would be enough for it to be a non-issue.

[G19Fan]

If their extractor is the same, that means the eps system sits lower In the slide, which would make sense. Either way, they could have resigned the safety plunger to take up the difference. And im surprised they didn't.

Maybe a polished plunger and lighter spring would be enough for it to be a non-issue.

Yeah I agree. I need to run more rounds through using my G43 slides and if they continue working well maybe just carry using a g43 slide and sell my cr920 slide

I have an optic ready cr920 but will probably keep it optic free

[Noboundries]

Yeah I agree. I need to run more rounds through using my G43 slides and if they continue working well maybe just carry using a g43 slide and sell my cr920 slide

I have an optic ready cr920 but will probably keep it optic free

The weight of the slide and the slide cuts I would hate to lose over this silly striker issue. With my wasp on the cr920 its a full ounce lighter than the g43, I also rack from the front and those cuts give so much purchase without being painful.

I have a feeling waiting for shadows response is fruitless as I have a pretty good feeling everything on mine is within spec. So I should probably just go ahead and order a lighter spring and get to polishing.

[G19Fan]

The weight of the slide and the slide cuts I would hate to lose over this silly striker issue. With my wasp on the cr920 its a full ounce lighter than the g43, I also rack from the front and those cuts give so much purchase without being painful.

I have a feeling waiting for shadows response is fruitless as I have a pretty good feeling everything on mine is within spec. So I should probably just go ahead and order a lighter spring and get to polishing.


That is probably true. Also I know my g48 would not run well with a red dot

Luckily I actually don't dislike my trigger. It is not the best dry fire but at speed it isn't an issue and with the irons only hitting ipsc sized steel at 50 is easy. Hard to do at 100 but can once in a while do it (front sight blocks too much of the target for me)

Do you know what height the front sight is on a cr920?

[Tokarev]

https://www.recoilweb.com/shadow-systems-cr920-review-covert-role-pistol-174506.html

A recent review from the folks at RECOIL.

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[cornstalker]

https://www.recoilweb.com/shadow-systems-cr920-review-covert-role-pistol-174506.html

A recent review from the folks at RECOIL.

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Great article. It always amazes me the difference in experiences and perspectives that can come from the same product from different people. Variance in the product itself is certainly possible.

Let me start off by saying that the CR920 is a keeper if I can get it to quit throwing brass straight into my face.

I think the article is spot-on in all of the topics except the two, where my experience differs.


All of this being said, its “shootability” for a subcompact is second to none. I shot this alongside a Glock 43, 26, and a borrowed P365 and found the CR920 much more pleasant to shoot with less snap than the others.

I have to significantly increase my support hand crush to keep my hands married during recoil with the CR920 than with the P365XL or G43x. Perhaps hand size and technique factor in. The hand shock is about what you would expect from a 17-ounce 9mm. No magic here.


This is where this pistol shines. It has a fantastic stock trigger—just over a 5-pound average by my trigger gauge – with a tactile and audible reset. With virtually no take-up, you don’t need to stage the trigger, just pull and press. The trigger is much crisper than the other subcompacts mentioned in this article.

Comparing my assessment of my sample to the one in the article, the weight sounds spot on. My sample is not nearly as impressive in the take-up and crispness categories.


Overall a decent read. Thanks for sharing it.

[G19Fan]

https://www.recoilweb.com/shadow-systems-cr920-review-covert-role-pistol-174506.html

A recent review from the folks at RECOIL.

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Thanks for sharing. Personally find the G26 much easier to shoot vs a cr920

But the cr920 shoots better vs a g43, g43x, p365, and hellcat for me

[DMCutter]

I was wondering about how it stacks up against a Hellcat. I have an Apex trigger in mine and the grip fits my hand better than the stock 365, but not as well as the WC module. Honestly sometimes the 365 trigger feels so scary light that I prefer the dingus type trigger.

[G19Fan]

I was wondering about how it stacks up against a Hellcat. I have an Apex trigger in mine and the grip fits my hand better than the stock 365, but not as well as the WC module. Honestly sometimes the 365 trigger feels so scary light that I prefer the dingus type trigger.

Personally think it shoots better than the hellcat or p365.

365xl does shoot softer imo va the short grip. Feels pretty much the same with long grip

[cornstalker]

I swapped the OE striker spring with a 5-pound Wolff spring. It made a noticeable difference. (I don't have a trigger scale, so I can't give hard data in numbers)

I also have to go back and clean up a statement I made about the trigger. Mine does indeed have a shorter take-up and a more defined wall than my Glocks. It actually has two, and sometimes three walls. My sample has a trigger that is not conducive to a stage-and-break style. Pressing straight through solves the issue, as noted in the article.

If my rifle work goes smoothly in the morning, I will put 50 rounds of 124 HST through it and see how it goes with the Wolff spring. I also want to try the PMM comped G43x upper on it and see how it runs.

[G19Fan]

I swapped the OE striker spring with a 5-pound Wolff spring. It made a noticeable difference. (I don't have a trigger scale, so I can't give hard data in numbers)

I also have to go back and clean up a statement I made about the trigger. Mine does indeed have a shorter take-up and a more defined wall than my Glocks. It actually has two, and sometimes three walls. My sample has a trigger that is not conducive to a stage-and-break style. Pressing straight through solves the issue, as noted in the article.

If my rifle work goes smoothly in the morning, I will put 50 rounds of 124 HST through it and see how it goes with the Wolff spring. I also want to try the PMM comped G43x upper on it and see how it runs.

I definitely don't stage the trigger. A staged pull doesn't work for me.

Can you link the wolf spring? Would you be concerned about light strikes?

[cornstalker]

I am generally concerned about any change I make on a gun. It will require vetting.

https://www.gunsprings.com/

Here is the site page. I have been using the 5 pound striker spring in a number of Glocks since 2018 and have yet to experience a light strike. Just the same. I won’t trust it until I test it.

[cornstalker]

The comped G43x upper on the CR920 lower was flawless in the first 50 rounds attempted. Extraction and ejection were perfect.

The CR920 in stock form ejected brass into my hat a number of times and hit the right side of my ear pro once, narrowly missing my glasses. This was shooting Federal Premuim LE 124 HST. When I picked up the brass I found three of my cases 6-8 feet to my left. I am not sure if those are the ones that bounced off of my hat.

Then this:
89555

I am going to remove the optic and make sure that Loctite did not migrate into the extractor plunger channel. The optic mounting instructions that came with the gun state to put a drop of Loctite on the shoulder of the mounting screw so it will take up the open space between the screw and the screw hole in the optic. I suppose it is possible that some thread locker may have worked its way over to the extractor area. I sure hope so, because customer service at Shadow Systems is nonexistent. I emailed them on 5/12 and 5/24 trying to get answers to my first set of questions. There has been no response at all.

[G19Fan]

The comped G43x upper on the CR920 lower was flawless in the first 50 rounds attempted. Extraction and ejection were perfect.

The CR920 in stock form ejected brass into my hat a number of times and hit the right side of my ear pro once, narrowly missing my glasses. This was shooting Federal Premuim LE 124 HST. When I picked up the brass I found three of my cases 6-8 feet to my left. I am not sure if those are the ones that bounced off of my hat.

Then this:
89555

I am going to remove the optic and make sure that Loctite did not migrate into the extractor plunger channel. The optic mounting instructions that came with the gun state to put a drop of Loctite on the shoulder of the mounting screw so it will take up the open space between the screw and the screw hole in the optic. I suppose it is possible that some thread locker may have worked its way over to the extractor area. I sure hope so, because customer service at Shadow Systems is nonexistent. I emailed them on 5/12 and 5/24 trying to get answers to my first set of questions. There has been no response at all.

This is the feed issue I will periodically get

Like I said I may just end up running a Glock 43 upper

[GJM]

I have three Shadow Systems pistols, and I am more enthusiastic about the frames than the slides. I wish they sold just frames.

[cornstalker]

I have confirmed that Loctite did not migrate into the extractor plunger.

I will reach out to my gun club where I bought it and see if they have any pull with Shadow Systems for getting something done.

[P226SAOFan]

For what it’s worth. I had the bright idea to chop the grip on an extra 43x frame and use the cr920 mags with a shield arms steel mag release. So I went ahead and bought one of the 10 rounders to see if it would be possible, however the mag release cutouts aren’t the same and don’t line up. The cr920 mag release cutout appears lower and it’s a smaller.

[G19Fan]

I have three Shadow Systems pistols, and I am more enthusiastic about the frames than the slides. I wish they sold just frames.

Lol I see you are a man of culture. I edc a mr920 frame with a g19 oem slide w/ 509T.

I love the frames. The slides themselves generally get sold.

[G19Fan]

The comped G43x upper on the CR920 lower was flawless in the first 50 rounds attempted. Extraction and ejection were perfect.

The CR920 in stock form ejected brass into my hat a number of times and hit the right side of my ear pro once, narrowly missing my glasses. This was shooting Federal Premuim LE 124 HST. When I picked up the brass I found three of my cases 6-8 feet to my left. I am not sure if those are the ones that bounced off of my hat.

Then this:
89555

I am going to remove the optic and make sure that Loctite did not migrate into the extractor plunger channel. The optic mounting instructions that came with the gun state to put a drop of Loctite on the shoulder of the mounting screw so it will take up the open space between the screw and the screw hole in the optic. I suppose it is possible that some thread locker may have worked its way over to the extractor area. I sure hope so, because customer service at Shadow Systems is nonexistent. I emailed them on 5/12 and 5/24 trying to get answers to my first set of questions. There has been no response at all.

Just ordered a new G43x slide to vet on the cr920 and it if works consistently will run that.

My cr920 rarely has issues but will once in a while (maybe 5 times in 1k rounds) If the g43x slide runs will have a cr920 slide up for sale

[cornstalker]

I got a surprisingly quick response from Shadow Systems. They will be sending me a shipping label. Let's see how this goes.

[G19Fan]

I got a surprisingly quick response from Shadow Systems. They will be sending me a shipping label. Let's see how this goes.

Nice! Maybe the crazy is less now

[Polecat]

Just got a black barreled CR, WOW! What Glock needs to do to achieve perfection. This thing is small! Barely bugger than P365, handle recoil better more enjoyable better grip for me. 150 rounds so far so good. Oh, it is super light also.

Dave

[G19Fan]

Just got a black barreled CR, WOW! What Glock needs to do to achieve perfection. This thing is small! Barely bugger than P365, handle recoil better more enjoyable better grip for me. 150 rounds so far so good. Oh, it is super light also.

Dave

Yeah Love mine. Very niche role but great at that role

[Biggy]

Mine has been flawless so far with around 600 rds through it and has decent accuracy with my 124gr FMJ range ammo and my Federal 147gr HST defensive ammo. Along with dry firing and shooting the pistol, I also lightly polished some trigger components, and *very slightly* relieved the grip frame and trigger housing where they were they were excessively rubbing on the trigger bar. I also installed a Timney trigger shoe on the trigger bar. The factory SS trigger shoe wasn't bad, but the Timney shoe is noticeably more comfortable *to me *. The trigger is now just about right for me on a carry gun, breaks around 4.75-5.0 lbs with very little creep. I will probably add a Holosun EPS carry 6 MOA RDS when they become available.

https://i.imgur.com/wjHfCKLl.jpg

[G19Fan]

Mine has been flawless so far with around 600 rds through it and has decent accuracy with my 124gr FMJ range ammo and my Federal 147gr HST defensive ammo. Along with dry firing and shooting the pistol, I also lightly polished some trigger components, and *very slightly* relieved the grip frame and trigger housing where they were they were excessively rubbing on the trigger bar. I also installed a Timney trigger shoe on the trigger bar. The factory SS trigger shoe wasn't bad, but the Timney shoe is noticeably more comfortable *to me *. The trigger is now just about right for me on a carry gun, breaks around 4.75-5.0 lbs with very little creep. I will probably add a Holosun EPS carry 6 MOA RDS when they become available.

https://i.imgur.com/wjHfCKLl.jpg

What benefits did relieving the grip frame and housing have?

I may need to do the timney trigger swap too. I like my trigger enough (can hit steel at 50 with irons) but a tad nicer trigger would be great

[Brianjkeene]

Mine has been flawless so far with around 600 rds through it and has decent accuracy with my 124gr FMJ range ammo and my Federal 147gr HST defensive ammo. Along with dry firing and shooting the pistol, I also lightly polished some trigger components, and *very slightly* relieved the grip frame and trigger housing where they were they were excessively rubbing on the trigger bar. I also installed a Timney trigger shoe on the trigger bar. The factory SS trigger shoe wasn't bad, but the Timney shoe is noticeably more comfortable *to me *. The trigger is now just about right for me on a carry gun, breaks around 4.75-5.0 lbs with very little creep. I will probably add a Holosun EPS carry 6 MOA RDS when they become available.

https://i.imgur.com/wjHfCKLl.jpg



I'm curious where the resting trigger position is. Could you take a pic with the trigger pulled? Thanks!

[Biggy]

I'm curious where the resting trigger position is. Could you take a pic with the trigger pulled? Thanks!


https://i.imgur.com/EIG908dl.jpg

[Biggy]

What benefits did relieving the grip frame and housing have?

I may need to do the timney trigger swap too. I like my trigger enough (can hit steel at 50 with irons) but a tad nicer trigger would be great


The trigger take-up on *mine* became much smoother. I used a small fine file and went slowly, removing a little bit of material each time I disassembled it, not removing very much material at all. As you know, with injection molded frames, trigger housings, stamped steel trigger bars, connectors, all these parts can and do vary some. IMHO, that's why some triggers are better ( Glock, Shadow Systems, etc.) out of the box than others. The trigger out of the box on my CR920 wasn't very good at all, it sucked. Now the break is within +1 lb of ideal *for me* for a carry trigger, with just a little bit of creep before the break.

[G19Fan]

The overall trigger take-up became much smoother. I used a small fine file and went slowly, removing a little bit of material each time I disassembled it, not removing very much material at all. As you know, with injection molded frames, trigger housings, stamped steel trigger bars, connectors, all these parts can and do vary some. IMHO, that's why some triggers are better ( Glock, Shadow Systems, etc.) out of the box than others. The trigger out of the box on my CR920 wasn't very good at all, it sucked. Now the break is within +1 lb of ideal *for me* for a carry trigger, with just a little bit of creep before the break.

Much appreciated

[Noboundries]

My trigger also sucked. I thought it was the safety plunger though. After talking with shadow systems for over a month, because they are slammed, and because I was hesitant to send it back if we though everything was in spec, I decided to let them look at it.

CS did look at a video I sent them and said that it's way too much creep and that was the reason I decided to send it to them. They also offered to send me another trigger pack instead.

I didn't look at relieving the frame which now I will when it comes back, but I did swap a complete polished trigger over from my g48, I also put in a reduced plunger spring, and bought a spare plunger to reprofile so the trigger bar wasn't slamming into a 90 degree surface instead of a ramp. Each step helped but it was still like 75% as good as my 48 or 43 so I do think something is out of spec.

Will update when SS lets me know what was or wasn't wrong.

[krav51]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrEnJfIESc4


not exactly a stellar performance

[backtrail540]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrEnJfIESc4


not exactly a stellar performance

While I'm not sold on the idea that a modern striker fired gun should need a break-in, they do say to expect a 200 round break in for the big guns.

In the example of one dr920 i have access to, it held true. A few feeding issues during that period that alleviated after.

I imagine that carries over to the small guns as well, so i would expect some failures early. I still don't like it but SS seems to expect it.

[krav51]

While I'm not sold on the idea that a modern striker fired gun should need a break-in, they do say to expect a 200 round break in for the big guns.

In the example of one dr920 i have access to, it held true. A few feeding issues during that period that alleviated after.

I imagine that carries over to the small guns as well, so i would expect some failures early. I still don't like it but SS seems to expect it.

I guess its hit or miss, my MR920 has 3000 rounds through it and not one FTF ever.

[G19Fan]

Put 530 rounds through one of my cr920s today (cr920 elite)

It had 5 ftf with blazer aluminum. Those same rounds wouldnt feed on two g19s either unless they were the first rounds in a mag. I am blaming the round

It fed approx 160 rounds of Norma 124 and Ranger T 147 just fine

At this stage I am comfortable carrying my cr920 if need be.

[cornstalker]

Put 530 rounds through one of my cr920s today (cr920 elite)

It had 5 ftf with blazer aluminum. Those same rounds wouldnt feed on two g19s either unless they were the first rounds in a mag. I am blaming the round

It fed approx 160 rounds of Norma 124 and Ranger T 147 just fine

At this stage I am comfortable carrying my cr920 if need be.

That is encouraging. I hope that mine proves reliable when I get it back from SS.

[cornstalker]

The update I received today regarding my CR920 was that they found an out-of-spec extractor cut on the slide. The report says that they corrected that and replaced the barrel with a factory-new barrel. I should have it back in a few days.

[Noboundries]

The update I received today regarding my CR920 was that they found an out-of-spec extractor cut on the slide. The report says that they corrected that and replaced the barrel with a factory-new barrel. I should have it back in a few days.

Ditto word for word. Mine should be back tomorrow.

The difference for me is I didn't have reliability issues, and sent it in for my trigger creep. And even though others have gotten new triggers, replaced with a revised part, I did not.

I just want to carry it and I don't want to have to wait another several weeks for SS to send me a new trigger. But we will see.

[Tokarev]

Info here for those who may be having reliability issues


https://youtu.be/otZ5n-CiCno

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[ECVMatt]

Info here for those who may be having reliability issues


https://youtu.be/otZ5n-CiCno

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Seems like a pretty stand-up way to do business.

I'm sticking with Glock, but this speaks volumes for SS customers.

Thanks for posting.

[G19Fan]

Info here for those who may be having reliability issues


https://youtu.be/otZ5n-CiCno

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Thanks was just about to post this. Love that they will send you a new barrel

[Noboundries]

Trigger creep is gone, still heavy but I can live with that. So SS recut my extractor channel, freed me of butt barrel syndrome, and they did replace my trigger as well which they didn't include in the email for whatever reason. I haven't had it fully apart yet but it seems to be just a new bar since my other parts remained polished.

Using my coffee scale the trigger was breaking seemingly over 7lbs though, but I know that's not a good way to measure it. But at least I can play with that knowing the creep is gone, finally feels like it should!

Before:
https://youtube.com/shorts/VaLQ479HLgA?feature=share

After:
https://youtube.com/shorts/DEQUWY4yr5w?feature=share

[cornstalker]

Trigger creep is gone, still heavy but I can live with that. So SS recut my extractor channel, freed me of butt barrel syndrome, and they did replace my trigger as well which they didn't include in the email for whatever reason. I haven't had it fully apart yet but it seems to be just a new bar since my other parts remained polished.

Using my coffee scale the trigger was breaking seemingly over 7lbs though, but I know that's not a good way to measure it. But at least I can play with that knowing the creep is gone, finally feels like it should!

Before:
https://youtube.com/shorts/VaLQ479HLgA?feature=share

After:
https://youtube.com/shorts/DEQUWY4yr5w?feature=share

I got mine back. The new barrel goes into battery much easier than the old one did. They appear to have replaced the trigger in mine as well. The creep and crunch are gone and it has a very defined wall and a crisp break. The only problem is that now it is much heavier than it was before. I will try to get it on a trigger scale, but it is a very noticeable change.

[Noboundries]

I got mine back. The new barrel goes into battery much easier than the old one did. They appear to have replaced the trigger in mine as well. The creep and crunch are gone and it has a very defined wall and a crisp break. The only problem is that now it is much heavier than it was before. I will try to get it on a trigger scale, but it is a very noticeable change.

Yeah i scaled it with my coffee scale and it's likely over 7lbs for me. I know that's not the most accurate way to measure but it's definitely heavier that before. I polished every thing up and take up and break are phenomenally good. Just heavy. I can live with that but I'll keep playing with it.

[G19Fan]

I got mine back. The new barrel goes into battery much easier than the old one did. They appear to have replaced the trigger in mine as well. The creep and crunch are gone and it has a very defined wall and a crisp break. The only problem is that now it is much heavier than it was before. I will try to get it on a trigger scale, but it is a very noticeable change.

Interesting.wonder if you can play around with connectors

They are sending me a trigger pack and a barrel. I think my gun worked its issues out except 115 blazer brass or alum sometimes but figured can’t hurt to get the upgraded barrel

[cornstalker]

I popped in on my gunsmith friend and asked him to gauge the trigger pulls on my Shadows.
All were tested with the trigger pull gauge hook just below the center of the trigger. Pretty much at the top of the safety tab.
MR920- bone stock
1. 5 lbs 14 0z
2. 5 lbs 8 oz
3. 5 lbs 14 oz

XR920 with 5# Wolff striker spring
1. 4 lbs 14 oz
2. 4 lbs 4 oz
3. 4 lbs 4 oz

CR920 with new trigger
1. 7 lbs 7 oz
2. 7 lbs 9 oz
3. 7 lbs 7 oz

Noboundries I am guessing that your coffee scale was pretty close!
My friend instantly stated that he thought the weight was coming from the interface between the sear leg of the cruciform and the striker. We popped the slide off and it looked pretty sharp when viewing it assembled. I took it apart and it is indeed quite sharp. It seems to me that the point is a bit aggressive. After running my finger over it, and then doing the same on a stock G43 sear, I would say that the Shadow Systems sear would actually grip the striker and increase the pull weight.

90822

[Noboundries]

I popped in on my gunsmith friend and asked him to gauge the trigger pulls on my Shadows.
All were tested with the trigger pull gauge hook just below the center of the trigger. Pretty much at the top of the safety tab.
MR920- bone stock
1. 5 lbs 14 0z
2. 5 lbs 8 oz
3. 5 lbs 14 oz

XR920 with 5# Wolff striker spring
1. 4 lbs 14 oz
2. 4 lbs 4 oz
3. 4 lbs 4 oz

CR920 with new trigger
1. 7 lbs 7 oz
2. 7 lbs 9 oz
3. 7 lbs 7 oz

Noboundries I am guessing that your coffee scale was pretty close!
My friend instantly stated that he thought the weight was coming from the interface between the sear leg of the cruciform and the striker. We popped the slide off and it looked pretty sharp when viewing it assembled. I took it apart and it is indeed quite sharp. It seems to me that the point is a bit aggressive. After running my finger over it, and then doing the same on a stock G43 sear, I would say that the Shadow Systems sear would actually grip the striker and increase the pull weight.

90822

I just polished it and It didn't help, I'd be scared to modify it's geometry. I'm going to play around with it and my g48 trigger and see what I want to do.

Looks like the same guy who thought the butt barrel was a good idea got ahold of the sear lol!

I'll probably end up buying a g43 lpk on ebay and use that until the next revision of trigger. I sent SS an email about the weight.

[Noboundries]

Interesting.wonder if you can play around with connectors

They are sending me a trigger pack and a barrel. I think my gun worked its issues out except 115 blazer brass or alum sometimes but figured can’t hurt to get the upgraded barrel

I can't speak for everyone but I would love to see pictures of the new vs old trigger. SS is public with the butt barrel but very hush about the trigger for whatever reason. I wish I would have been able to keep the old trigger I'm positive the extractor channel was the issue anyways for mine.

[G19Fan]

I can't speak for everyone but I would love to see pictures of the new vs old trigger. SS is public with the butt barrel but very hush about the trigger for whatever reason. I wish I would have been able to keep the old trigger I'm positive the extractor channel was the issue anyways for mine.

I will take that pic for you I likely will keep my old trigger as it doesn't have the stages and pull weight is fine for me (probably 6 lb ish)

A g43 trigger and ejector housing does fit a cr920

[Noboundries]

I will take that pic for you I likely will keep my old trigger as it doesn't have the stages and pull weight is fine for me (probably 6 lb ish)

A g43 trigger and ejector housing does fit a cr920


Yes sir I was carrying the wife's g48 trigger in my cr920 before I sent it in. I still prefer a perfectly predictable 7lbs to the gritty creepy unpredictable mess I had before lol.

[G19Fan]

Yes sir I was carrying the wife's g48 trigger in my cr920 before I sent it in. I still prefer a perfectly predictable 7lbs to the gritty creepy unpredictable mess I had before lol.

100% heavy is fine on a HD gun and maybe even preferred. I don't like gritty or creepy. Interestingly enough mine can get gritty or creepy once I hit 500 rounds. Unless I do a trigger deep clean lol

[cornstalker]

My old one wasn’t great, but it was acceptable. I would gladly take it back.
I emailed them about it as well.
I need to order more spring cups anyways, might as well get an extra Glock housing at the same time.

[cornstalker]

I just polished it and It didn't help, I'd be scared to modify it's geometry. I'm going to play around with it and my g48 trigger and see what I want to do.

Looks like the same guy who thought the butt barrel was a good idea got ahold of the sear lol!

I'll probably end up buying a g43 lpk on ebay and use that until the next revision of trigger. I sent SS an email about the weight.

Where did you polish?

[Noboundries]

Where did you polish?

I polished everything. All surfaces of the bar, connector, and the interface of the striker. I also previously had recontoured the safety plunger as I thought that was the initial issue so I put that back in with a reduced spring.

All that was before I weighed it.

[Noboundries]

Swapped my connector with my g48 now the pull is still absolutely creep free and down to just under 5lbs. Funny enough the g48 used to have a touch of creep and now it's gone and its trigger only went up an ounce or two from the connector swap.

Hopefully going to the range today to break in the new barrel and trigger and I'm finally excited to shoot this dang thing again!

Also I forgot to get a picture, but i can actually see the edge of my sear is curled up after only 35 rounds from ss and 100 dry fires from me. That does give me a touch of fear that after many rounds it will start to re-introduce creep. I guess if that happens Ill just buy another trigger and be done with it lol.

[G19Fan]

Swapped my connector with my g48 now the pull is still absolutely creep free and down to just under 5lbs. Funny enough the g48 used to have a touch of creep and now it's gone and its trigger only went up an ounce or two from the connector swap.

Hopefully going to the range today to break in the new barrel and trigger and I'm finally excited to shoot this dang thing again!

Also I forgot to get a picture, but i can actually see the edge of my sear is curled up after only 35 rounds from ss and 100 dry fires from me. That does give me a touch of fear that after many rounds it will start to re-introduce creep. I guess if that happens Ill just buy another trigger and be done with it lol.

Great update. Mine got creepier (original trigger) after 500 rounds. Went away after disassemble and cleaning.

I am hunting for a g43 lpk and may just use that lol

[Noboundries]

Great update. Mine got creepier (original trigger) after 500 rounds. Went away after disassemble and cleaning.

I am hunting for a g43 lpk and may just use that lol

220 flawless rounds today. I was low left from too much coffee but it shot great otherwise!

Imo you don't need an lpk the difference between the revised SS trigger with g48 connector and the g48 trigger was like 2-3oz in mine. I'd say you should try just the connector unless you get a good deal then why not. Btw the was some creep added with the g48 trigger though, but connector only introduced no creep.

[G19Fan]

220 flawless rounds today. I was low left from too much coffee but it shot great otherwise!

Imo you don't need an lpk the difference between the revised SS trigger with g48 connector and the g48 trigger was like 2-3oz in mine. I'd say you should try just the connector unless you get a good deal then why not. Btw the was some creep added with the g48 trigger though, but connector only introduced no creep.

That I'd perfect. Thanks for that. Great to know

[cornstalker]

I got a very quick response from Shadow stating that they are sending me a new trigger pack. For now I installed a Glock OEM trigger housing with an NP3'ed minus connector and an SSVI TYR trigger with a Glock OEM trigger bar. I stoned a lip off of the striker. Now it works as expected. I think it will be even better when I get some more spring cups. The original ones feel pretty gritty dragging in the striker bore and have the same irregularity as the ones in my XR920.

Another win was that an HS407k and the Shadow spacer fit as they described it should in the manual. None of the drama I ran into with the RMSc. I plan to shoot it tomorrow afternoon.

[G19Fan]

I got a very quick response from Shadow stating that they are sending me a new trigger pack. For now I installed a Glock OEM trigger housing with an NP3'ed minus connector and an SSVI TYR trigger with a Glock OEM trigger bar. I stoned a lip off of the striker. Now it works as expected. I think it will be even better when I get some more spring cups. The original ones feel pretty gritty dragging in the striker bore and have the same irregularity as the ones in my XR920.

Another win was that an HS407k and the Shadow spacer fit as they described it should in the manual. None of the drama I ran into with the RMSc. I plan to shoot it tomorrow afternoon.

Nice would love to hear how it shoots now

[Noboundries]

Back to 7.5lbs post range day and a detail strip and clean. I'm absolutely befuddled, how can it go from 5lbs to 7.5lbs in 220rds? I did notice the sear interface looks more uniformly curled whereas yesterday it was curled ~40%. Still perfectly solid wall and light takeup, but Im just not a good enough shooter for 7.5lbs lol.

I guess I'll be buying a jg trigger sooner than I had hoped. Unless shadow replies to my email with good news, but since they just test fired it Im doubtful there is anything they will do at this point.

Still going to carry it. I shoot the g48 better today but I'm still confident in it.

[cornstalker]

Have you guys had difficulty getting the trigger housing back into the frame? It has given me trouble every time. Once I had to remove it and reinstall it three times to get the trigger to work. I have made sure that the bar and connector are aligned each time properly. The OEM Glock housing slides right in there as normal. The Shadow trigger pack is unusable in my G43 frame. Abnormally hard to get in, then it seems jammed and is very hard to reset by manually manipulating the trigger bar.

My current Shadow trigger pack will not work with a Glock minus connector. I am beginning to believe that the housing is out of spec. I had a good thing going with the original trigger and a Wolff 5 lb spring. I wish they would have left it alone. I can't help but think there is a failure-related issue with the old setup, so they swap it with the updated part whether you want it or not.

If anyone reading this has a CR920 with the old creepy trigger setup and is willing to take it apart and do a photo shoot, I would love to see if we can spot some differences.

I like the idea of a JG trigger setup, but I am not willing to spend $200 on one until the gun proves reliable. I bought a trigger housing from Midway for $8 and had connectors and triggers in stock to experiment with.

Ah, the joys of paying to be a beta tester...:p

[Noboundries]

Ah, the joys of paying to be a beta tester...:p

Yeah no doubt lol! Since I'm in WA I'm stuck with the gun for the foreseeable future if I want to carry more than 10 rounds. So I'm determined to convince myself it's going to be perfect lol.

I am hesitant to buy a $200 trigger as well especially if it doesn't make it the best trigger I've ever shot. But to me i can't find OEM Glock lpks less than $90 so I'd almost rather get the jg trigger at that point.

When I swapped connectors I had to adjust them, to me it sounds like you need to bend your SS connector in a touch.

[cornstalker]

Yeah no doubt lol! Since I'm in WA I'm stuck with the gun for the foreseeable future if I want to carry more than 10 rounds. So I'm determined to convince myself it's going to be perfect lol.

I am hesitant to buy a $200 trigger as well especially if it doesn't make it the best trigger I've ever shot. But to me i can't find OEM Glock lpks less than $90 so I'd almost rather get the jg trigger at that point.

When I swapped connectors I had to adjust them, to me it sounds like you need to bend your SS connector in a touch.

That very well could be, I never considered that since the (-) connector works fine in the Glock housing, but not at all in the SS housing. It would be a good experiment.

[cornstalker]

I just put 170 rounds of Federal AE 124 grain ammo through it. It is cycling and ejecting far better than before. Seems like things are on the right track.

[G19Fan]

Back to 7.5lbs post range day and a detail strip and clean. I'm absolutely befuddled, how can it go from 5lbs to 7.5lbs in 220rds? I did notice the sear interface looks more uniformly curled whereas yesterday it was curled ~40%. Still perfectly solid wall and light takeup, but Im just not a good enough shooter for 7.5lbs lol.

I guess I'll be buying a jg trigger sooner than I had hoped. Unless shadow replies to my email with good news, but since they just test fired it Im doubtful there is anything they will do at this point.

Still going to carry it. I shoot the g48 better today but I'm still confident in it.

I really like my cr920, but wished I loved it. At this stage may go back to a g26 for the rare deep concealment times...

Hit me up if you need mags on pm

[G19Fan]

Have you guys had difficulty getting the trigger housing back into the frame? It has given me trouble every time. Once I had to remove it and reinstall it three times to get the trigger to work. I have made sure that the bar and connector are aligned each time properly. The OEM Glock housing slides right in there as normal. The Shadow trigger pack is unusable in my G43 frame. Abnormally hard to get in, then it seems jammed and is very hard to reset by manually manipulating the trigger bar.

My current Shadow trigger pack will not work with a Glock minus connector. I am beginning to believe that the housing is out of spec. I had a good thing going with the original trigger and a Wolff 5 lb spring. I wish they would have left it alone. I can't help but think there is a failure-related issue with the old setup, so they swap it with the updated part whether you want it or not.

If anyone reading this has a CR920 with the old creepy trigger setup and is willing to take it apart and do a photo shoot, I would love to see if we can spot some differences.

I like the idea of a JG trigger setup, but I am not willing to spend $200 on one until the gun proves reliable. I bought a trigger housing from Midway for $8 and had connectors and triggers in stock to experiment with.

Ah, the joys of paying to be a beta tester...:p


https://imgur.com/a/WA34qp0


Above picture: Shadow Systems CR920 trigger and housing that came from my 1XX gun which was confirmed to have the older trigger (though mine was fine)

Bottom picture: New trigger shadow systems sent me.

Trigger bar on both is SSC-20C

Housing on both is: SSC-21A

Parts numer on trigger bar and housing are the same. Literally only difference is the connector and trigger bar on the new trigger have that reddish goop. Maybe. that makes it feel smoother until it rubs off which would explain why some users have their triggers get worse again after XXX rounds.

Been shooting my CR920 (don't have new barrel yet) but not loving it. May go back to G26

This feels a bit rushed out

[Biggy]

I am loving my CR920, it’s been 100% reliable through around 600 rds of FMJ ball and FMJ HP ammo. It’s got good accuracy and the trigger on mine is pretty close to exactly what I like on a carry gun. It also conceals very well. Mine’s definitely a keeper.

[G19Fan]

I am loving my CR920, it’s been 100% reliable through around 600 rds of FMJ ball and FMJ HP ammo. It’s got good accuracy and the trigger on mine is pretty close to exactly what I like on a carry gun. It also conceals very well. Mine’s definitely a keeper.

Nice I think I will revisit again in a few months to years. Gun shoots great and I love thr idea

[G19Fan]

Nice I think I will revisit again in a few months to years. Gun shoots great and I love the idea

[Thy.Will.Be.Done]

I got to handle one of these at my FFL's place doing a transfer for my BPS, it was the War Poet Edition with Holosun K optic mounted from the factory. It was really nice and I've got to say despite the price tag I was told these were selling for $1k I really want one for EDC.

[Noboundries]

https://imgur.com/a/WA34qp0


Above picture: Shadow Systems CR920 trigger and housing that came from my 1XX gun which was confirmed to have the older trigger (though mine was fine)

Bottom picture: New trigger shadow systems sent me.

Trigger bar on both is SSC-20C

Housing on both is: SSC-21A

Parts numer on trigger bar and housing are the same. Literally only difference is the connector and trigger bar on the new trigger have that reddish goop. Maybe. that makes it feel smoother until it rubs off which would explain why some users have their triggers get worse again after XXX rounds.

Been shooting my CR920 (don't have new barrel yet) but not loving it. May go back to G26

This feels a bit rushed out

I'm amazed they are the same parts, if it wasn't revised parts why did they swap mine?!? I guess if they are the same that means that it likely is a manufacturing defect on the face of the cruciform that engages with the striker lug. Mine was curled up im wondering if I should try fixing it or just get over the price tag and order a trigger already lol.

So neither your old or new trigger are breaking over 7lbs? This is all so confusing!

[G19Fan]

I'm amazed they are the same parts, if it wasn't revised parts why did they swap mine?!? I guess if they are the same that means that it likely is a manufacturing defect on the face of the cruciform that engages with the striker lug. Mine was curled up im wondering if I should try fixing it or just get over the price tag and order a trigger already lol.

So neither your old or new trigger are breaking over 7lbs? This is all so confusing!

Don't have a trigger pull gauge as I am not that picky (g19 dot or minus is fine with me. Stock is fine with me too if need be)

That said it male no sense to me why the trigger, housing etc are all the same. If anything my new trigger may be worse than my old one lol

[G19Fan]

I'm amazed they are the same parts, if it wasn't revised parts why did they swap mine?!? I guess if they are the same that means that it likely is a manufacturing defect on the face of the cruciform that engages with the striker lug. Mine was curled up im wondering if I should try fixing it or just get over the price tag and order a trigger already lol.

So neither your old or new trigger are breaking over 7lbs? This is all so confusing!


If you wanna send your trigger to me I'll send my old trigger to you?

So my old trigger was maybe 5 to 6 lbs with a defined wall. But crisp on trigger pull

My new trigger is mushier (significantly less crisp and wall) and feels like a 3 stage glock minus connector trigger but in a weird way lol

[cornstalker]

If you wanna send your trigger to me I'll send my old trigger to you?

So my old trigger was maybe 5 to 6 lbs with a defined wall. But crisp on trigger pull

My new trigger is mushier (significantly less crisp and wall) and feels like a 3 stage glock minus connector trigger but in a weird way lol

My experience was inversely proportional, except the pull was 7.5 lbs.

[G19Fan]

My experience was inversely proportional, except the pull was 7.5 lbs.

So random lol

[CCT125US]

Had a chance to pick up a CR920 Elite the other day. For whatever reason I really wanted to like it. The idea of a subcompact, ultra thin, optics ready, and excellent holster support, not a Glock pistol peaked my interest. LNIB for a steel, and a test fire? Yes, I'll check it out.

Inaccurate, and required a 6 o'clock hold to hit the B8 center at 10 yards, producing a 3 inch group, jumpy, proprietary mags, mag release abraids my middle finger, trigger felt like dragging a chain through gravel, (yes, worse than HKs), flat faced with dingus which I very much dislike.

Went bang everytime, so there's that. Sample of one.

[GearFondler]

Had a chance to pick up a CR920 Elite the other day. For whatever reason I really wanted to like it. The idea of a subcompact, ultra thin, optics ready, and excellent holster support, not a Glock pistol peaked my interest. LNIB for a steel, and a test fire? Yes, I'll check it out.

Inaccurate, and required a 6 o'clock hold to hit the B8 center at 10 yards, producing a 3 inch group, jumpy, proprietary mags, mag release abraids my middle finger, trigger felt like dragging a chain through gravel, (yes, worse than HKs), flat faced with dingus which I very much dislike.

Went bang everytime, so there's that. Sample of one.You never said whether you liked it or not.

[jlw]

Had a chance to pick up a CR920 Elite the other day. For whatever reason I really wanted to like it. The idea of a subcompact, ultra thin, optics ready, and excellent holster support, not a Glock pistol peaked my interest. LNIB for a steel, and a test fire? Yes, I'll check it out.

Inaccurate, and required a 6 o'clock hold to hit the B8 center at 10 yards, producing a 3 inch group, jumpy, proprietary mags, mag release abraids my middle finger, trigger felt like dragging a chain through gravel, (yes, worse than HKs), flat faced with dingus which I very much dislike.

Went bang everytime, so there's that. Sample of one.

One of my coworkers recently bought one, and it had a bad trigger. He was told by customer service that some out of spec trigger bars had escaped the factory, and they sent him a new trigger assembly. He says the trigger is very much improved.

[G19Fan]

One of my coworkers recently bought one, and it had a bad trigger. He was told by customer service that some out of spec trigger bars had escaped the factory, and they sent him a new trigger assembly. He says the trigger is very much improved.

The inconsistency on these is a huge annoyance.

[G19Fan]

Had a chance to pick up a CR920 Elite the other day. For whatever reason I really wanted to like it. The idea of a subcompact, ultra thin, optics ready, and excellent holster support, not a Glock pistol peaked my interest. LNIB for a steel, and a test fire? Yes, I'll check it out.

Inaccurate, and required a 6 o'clock hold to hit the B8 center at 10 yards, producing a 3 inch group, jumpy, proprietary mags, mag release abraids my middle finger, trigger felt like dragging a chain through gravel, (yes, worse than HKs), flat faced with dingus which I very much dislike.

Went bang everytime, so there's that. Sample of one.

I don't find it jumpy and imo it shoots like a g48. Reliability for mine has been hit or miss

[Biggy]

My Holosun EPS-CARRY-RD-6 (6 MOA dot) came today from EUROOPTIC. I direct mounted it to my Shadow Systems CR920. I used one of the Shadow Systems polymer spacers in front of the optic, no sanding of the spacer needed, no gaps and super secure. I think it will work out great.

https://i.imgur.com/JCHbxi9h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9IaTzlFh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qlAejMph.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ogMqps0h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Z2fYM08h.jpg

[G19Fan]

My Holosun EPS-CARRY-RD-6 (6 MOA dot) came today from EUROOPTIC. I direct mounted it to my Shadow Systems CR920. I used one of the Shadow Systems polymer spacers in front of the optic, no sanding of the spacer needed, no gaps and super secure. I think it will work out great.

https://i.imgur.com/JCHbxi9h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9IaTzlFh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qlAejMph.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ogMqps0h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Z2fYM08h.jpg

Looks great. If my cr920 comes back reliable I am getting one too

[cornstalker]

That does look great.

[evi1joe]

I had cleaned by CR920, dry-fired it a bunch, and lubed it lightly with oil.

The good:
-- While it wasn't as soft as a much bigger gun like claimed, it was soft enough.
-- I like the iron sights (but my EPS Carry will be here Saturday--is it just me or are the optic plate screws loctited on?).
-- No failures to extract or feed.

The bad:
-- The trigger is a bit heavier and crunchier than I like.
-- My 200rd break in period had 4% light-strikes: 6 with S&B 124gr (50rds), 2 with Fiocchi (50rds), but none with 50rds of HST or 50rds of Magtech.
-- The striker and striker channel were both filthy. After 200rds, they were covered in fouling (worse than I've seen in 30 years of shooting G17/26/19/23/42/43/43X guns--I've never seen anything in the striker channel and only given it the slightest wipe-down ever 2K to 3K rounds).
-- ALSO, the striker appears to have had the coating rubbed off, so I wonder if it's hitting the safety plunger (video included for your opinion if it's normal or not).

My theory is that the light-strikes be "off-center" hits and the fouling is blowing into the striker channel? See pics for strikes (they look a bit off-center to me).
I suppose this could be caused by a few things--weaker RSA, break-in, ???.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/oT2ZS47w-6A?feature=share

[G19Fan]

I had cleaned by CR920, dry-fired it a bunch, and lubed it lightly with oil.

The good:
-- While it wasn't as soft as a much bigger gun like claimed, it was soft enough.
-- I like the iron sights (but my EPS Carry will be here Saturday--is it just me or are the optic plate screws loctited on?).
-- No failures to extract or feed.

The bad:
-- The trigger is a bit heavier and crunchier than I like.
-- My 200rd break in period had 4% light-strikes: 6 with S&B 124gr (50rds), 2 with Fiocchi (50rds), but none with 50rds of HST or 50rds of Magtech.
-- The striker and striker channel were both filthy. After 200rds, they were covered in fouling (worse than I've seen in 30 years of shooting G17/26/19/23/42/43/43X guns--I've never seen anything in the striker channel and only given it the slightest wipe-down ever 2K to 3K rounds).
-- ALSO, the striker appears to have had the coating rubbed off, so I wonder if it's hitting the safety plunger (video included for your opinion if it's normal or not).

My theory is that the light-strikes be "off-center" hits and the fouling is blowing into the striker channel? See pics for strikes (they look a bit off-center to me).
I suppose this could be caused by a few things--weaker RSA, break-in, ???.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/oT2ZS47w-6A?feature=share

Have had plenty of light strikes issues with the mr920 series before deciding to run only oem glock on mine

Light strike is from gun not fully going into battery like a smidgen off. Esp if the strikes are off center

[G19Fan]

At this stage I am waiting got shadow systems to fix my cr920 and then I will sell or trade it for another p365xl

[evi1joe]

Have had plenty of light strikes issues with the mr920 series before deciding to run only oem glock on mine
Light strike is from gun not fully going into battery like a smidgen off. Esp if the strikes are off center

That's my theory. IF it's slightly out of battery, maybe the primer isn't sealed up against the striker channel, causing a few light-strikes, and also blowing crap in the channel. It was WAAAAY too dirty to be normal.

Then there's that weird wear on the safety plunger that just doesn't look normal for 200rds--like it's getting marred up somehow. I need to see if that's normal or if it's excessive wear (in the video I made).

It worked 100% with magtech (which was super soft) and all defensive stuff, including old HST (124 & 147) and critical duty. I'm going to give it one more chance on Monday, but if the striker channel gets filled again, or I have more light-strikes, it will be sold (or sent to SS and then sold). It's too bad, since I really do want SS to do well. But maybe they're growing too big too fast. I love the 365 line, but SIG totally used me as a beta-tester on that one (maybe because they were expanding into optics, lights, ammo, 365s, 320s, ARs, etc. all at once).
--
I AM loving my P365-380, but even though I know shot placement is the main thing, I just keep thinking that 9mm would be better since the capacity is the same (though it is lighter and I can shoot it more accurately at a faster speed--especially with soft ammo like Fort Scott stuff). I put "optic height" sights on the 365-380, but they're 2.5" low at 10 yards...so I need a taller front (and those fronts are a bitch to get fitted and installed).

[G19Fan]

That's my theory. IF it's slightly out of battery, maybe the primer isn't sealed up against the striker channel, causing a few light-strikes, and also blowing crap in the channel. It was WAAAAY too dirty to be normal.

Then there's that weird wear on the safety plunger that just doesn't look normal for 200rds--like it's getting marred up somehow. I need to see if that's normal or if it's excessive wear (in the video I made).

It worked 100% with magtech (which was super soft) and all defensive stuff, including old HST (124 & 147) and critical duty. I'm going to give it one more chance on Monday, but if the striker channel gets filled again, or I have more light-strikes, it will be sold (or sent to SS and then sold). It's too bad, since I really do want SS to do well. But maybe they're growing too big too fast. I love the 365 line, but SIG totally used me as a beta-tester on that one (maybe because they were expanding into optics, lights, ammo, 365s, 320s, ARs, etc. all at once).
--
I AM loving my P365-380, but even though I know shot placement is the main thing, I just keep thinking that 9mm would be better since the capacity is the same (though it is lighter and I can shoot it more accurately at a faster speed--especially with soft ammo like Fort Scott stuff). I put "optic height" sights on the 365-380, but they're 2.5" low at 10 yards...so I need a taller front (and those fronts are a bitch to get fitted and installed).

I love the Shadow system frames. Then I pull the slide and run oem glock slides lol

I want them to succeed as a company but def growing too fast imo.

I never carry anything except my mr920 with a g19 slide so I prob don't even need another p365xl. Eventually should get a da/sa to play with

[evi1joe]

Kayli at Shadow Systems responded to my support request (on a Saturday).
She says these are definitely off-center hits from the gun being slightly out-of-battery and recommended a new RSA.
She also said the wear on my striker from 200rds looks normal, and that she thinks Fiocchi ammo may have quality issues (though most failures were S&B).
The fact that she seems so sure, combined with random comments I've seen from others about problematic RSAs, makes me think this is a known issue.

I'll give the gun another 200rds of American Eagle (115/124), S&B, and Fiocchi.
If I have no issues, I'll go ahead and carry it after another 300rds. If the problem continues, it's gone and I'm going back to a 365 or 365XL.

I should point out, this gun pointed AMAZING for me. I was point shooting (through the slide-plate) at 7Y and getting ALL hits inside a 6" circle.

-----HER EMAIL-----
Kayli from SS:
"Thank you for providing the visual media for me to take a look at. Based on the picture you send of the light strikes, I can tell that the reason they are off-center is that the firearm was VERY slightly out of battery at the time those occurred. A new recoil assembly might be the solution to your problem. This could also explain the fouling if it is excessive because if the round did discharge, more carbon would be blown back out of the ejection port and could possibly make its way into the striker channel.

I will tell you that I recently took a few hundred rounds of Fiocchi out to the range with my XR920 and saw several light strikes. I believe that their quality department might be getting hit hard with the heavy demand for ammunition and that they have been using some really hard primers recently. I cannot attest to the S&B, but that is what I observed with the 124-grain Fiocchi Range Dynamics. I suggest picking up some Aguila to factor out the ammunition as being a possible cause of this issue. We've been using a lot of their stuff lately for testing and have had little to no issues with it.

As for your striker, that does actually look pretty normal. At least from my perspective, I'm not seeing anything on it that would indicate an issue with that assembly. If you provide a good shipping address, we can have a replacement recoil assembly sent to you if you see no improvement at your next range session!"

[Biggy]

Here are a few reviews on the CR920 pistol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT1rC-eCFwk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5oSNoJV0cw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBzgcNP49O0

[G19Fan]

How is everyone's gun running post butt barrel?

I am awaiting the return of mine but cannot decide if I should swap to a p365xl

[cornstalker]

I haven’t had time to run mine much lately, but the little I have, the cycling is obviously improved.
I haven’t heard anything in over thirty days regarding the replacement trigger pack. I sent an email reply asking about it 7 days ago. Nada.

[coob5]

My Holosun EPS-CARRY-RD-6 (6 MOA dot) came today from EUROOPTIC. I direct mounted it to my Shadow Systems CR920. I used one of the Shadow Systems polymer spacers in front of the optic, no sanding of the spacer needed, no gaps and super secure. I think it will work out great.


I am interested in getting a CR920. I am debating getting the War Poet Edition with the Holosun 507K or getting a Elite Optics ready model then later purchase an EPS carry. If I go with tnr War poet edition I can save $75-$100 vs buying it all separately. With that said would you say the EPS carry is a worthwhile upgrade to the 507K? Also does it co witness any better than the 507K?

[G19Fan]

I haven’t had time to run mine much lately, but the little I have, the cycling is obviously improved.
I haven’t heard anything in over thirty days regarding the replacement trigger pack. I sent an email reply asking about it 7 days ago. Nada.

If you want I have a spare trigger pack I brought from special guy. Works in mine. I had a tyr trigger on it but now it is naked

[G19Fan]

I am interested in getting a CR920. I am debating getting the War Poet Edition with the Holosun 507K or getting a Elite Optics ready model then later purchase an EPS carry. If I go with tnr War poet edition I can save $75-$100 vs buying it all separately. With that said would you say the EPS carry is a worthwhile upgrade to the 507K? Also does it co witness any better than the 507K?

Cowitness should be the same. It really is do you wanna spend more for enclosed but only 2 MOA or 6MOA. or spend less for all the reticules but open emitter.

507K has more of a track history but if the EPS long term is anything like the 509T they will be fine. I have a bunch of 509T and they are run often and not babied, held up fine.

[cornstalker]

If you want I have a spare trigger pack I brought from special guy. Works in mine. I had a tyr trigger on it but now it is naked

Thanks for that. I don't really need a trigger pack as I have a Glock housing, TYR trigger in it now that is working very well. I don't remember if I put my Ghost connector or NP3'd minus connector in it, but it works great. I was just curious if the replacement trigger pack they send is any better than the "upgrade" I didn't want.

I do appreciate the kind gesture.

I am at a point where I can forget the BS and move on if it stays reliable, even if they never send the trigger pack. It's actually a pretty badass little rig with my PMM comped Glock upper and RMSc on the SS lower.

[G19Fan]

I haven’t had time to run mine much lately, but the little I have, the cycling is obviously improved.
I haven’t heard anything in over thirty days regarding the replacement trigger pack. I sent an email reply asking about it 7 days ago. Nada.

Did they send back your pistol USPS or UPS? I'm in theory getting something back but they didn't notify me so I'm not sure what it is (maybe it's your trigger group...lol)

[G19Fan]

Thanks for that. I don't really need a trigger pack as I have a Glock housing, TYR trigger in it now that is working very well. I don't remember if I put my Ghost connector or NP3'd minus connector in it, but it works great. I was just curious if the replacement trigger pack they send is any better than the "upgrade" I didn't want.

I do appreciate the kind gesture.

I am at a point where I can forget the BS and move on if it stays reliable, even if they never send the trigger pack. It's actually a pretty badass little rig with my PMM comped Glock upper and RMSc on the SS lower.

Nice! I love the Tyr trigger too. I need to fine an OEM glock housing and trigger bar. Those have been impossible.

I really want mine to run, but a wilson combat framed P365XL would be fine if I can't get comfortable with it's reliability.

[cornstalker]

My gun came UPS. They dropped it on the porch and left.

Midway has the housing.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016805139?pid=693590

There are OEM triggers with bar for rape and peel prices on Ebay. ($30 shipped for #33362)

[G19Fan]

My gun came UPS. They dropped it on the porch and left.

Midway has the housing.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016805139?pid=693590

There are OEM triggers with bar for rape and peel prices on Ebay. ($30 shipped for #33362)

Thanks!

[G19Fan]

My gun came UPS. They dropped it on the porch and left.

Midway has the housing.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016805139?pid=693590

There are OEM triggers with bar for rape and peel prices on Ebay. ($30 shipped for #33362)


I am curious now what they are sending me lol

[coob5]

Cowitness should be the same. It really is do you wanna spend more for enclosed but only 2 MOA or 6MOA. or spend less for all the reticules but open emitter.

507K has more of a track history but if the EPS long term is anything like the 509T they will be fine. I have a bunch of 509T and they are run often and not babied, held up fine.

I guess I could go with the EPS carry multi reticle version but it seems steep on the price. https://holosun.com/index/product/detail/id/222.html

[G19Fan]

I guess I could go with the EPS carry multi reticle version but it seems steep on the price. https://holosun.com/index/product/detail/id/222.html

Plus no ETA

My real question is for those with an EPS is it worth it over a 407k or 507k

[Brianjkeene]

How is everyone's gun running post butt barrel?

I am awaiting the return of mine but cannot decide if I should swap to a p365xl

I’ve put a couple hundred through a Rental cr920 and liked it but I still prefer
My Wilson framed 365xl - hated the 365 before the Wilson grip though.

[G19Fan]

I’ve put a couple hundred through a Rental cr920 and liked it but I still prefer
My Wilson framed 365xl - hated the 365 before the Wilson grip though.

Funny you say this. I hated my wife's p365xl. Then I decided to get a wilson grip. They make the gun point like a g19 for me. Totally get it now

[Phred]

Funny you say this. I hated my wife's p365xl. Then I decided to get a wilson grip. They make the gun point like a g19 for me. Totally get it now

I’ve been contemplating a Wilson grip for my P365X….if it points like a G19, then it would be perfect! The stock grip is too small and points low for me.

[G19Fan]

I’ve been contemplating a Wilson grip for my P365X….if it points like a G19, then it would be perfect! The stock grip is too small and points low for me.

Same issue before though I don't have huge hands.

But the Wilson grip module is perfect. Tried one then ordered 3 more

My biggest issue is I have an extra p365 slide, 10 round mags, and a grip module I need to sell after converting everything to an xl

[Brianjkeene]

I’ve been contemplating a Wilson grip for my P365X….if it points like a G19, then it would be perfect! The stock grip is too small and points low for me.

My Wilson 365xl has become the only gun I take to the range. I just enjoy shooting the thing. This is the first time that I can carry something smaller and actually enjoy shooting it. Haven't taken it to a class yet but it has enjoyed several higher round count range days as of late.

[G19Fan]

My Wilson 365xl has become the only gun I take to the range. I just enjoy shooting the thing. This is the first time that I can carry something smaller and actually enjoy shooting it. Haven't taken it to a class yet but it has enjoyed several higher round count range days as of late.

My wife is trying to have me make that switch I carry a g19 99% of the time and wanted my 1% gun to be a cr920, but it is looking like a wilso. P365xl

She is hoping we both go full time p365xl. The p365xl Macro may actually allow this to happen

She likes the oem grips vs the wilson

[Noboundries]

How is everyone's gun running post butt barrel?

I am awaiting the return of mine but cannot decide if I should swap to a p365xl

300rds on new barrel so far. 1 fte but the safety plunger channel was so dirty it was actually getting stuck, so I attribute the fte to that, I was shooting sar NATO ammo so I don't think that was it either.

I did pick up a mantis and I've got almost 2k trigger pulls since the new barrel. Should have kept it more wet I guess during dry fire lol the coating on the hood already looks bad. Don't care in the slightest about that though.

Idk if others have a problem with junk in the slide with "good" ammo but aside from that it's been 100% reliable.

Also 200 rounds and the aforementioned 2k dry now on the cr920 with the g48 trigger stolen from my wife lol. Never swapping that back, it's mine for good, hers with the cr920 pack feels amazing too, go figure!

[cornstalker]

I fired 70 rounds through mine yesterday and had 4 light strikes. Right after I had stated elsewhere that I had never had a light strike. Go figure.

I believe this was self inflicted. The striker spring was off center in the Ghost Turbo maritime cups. I made sure that the end of the spring was not aligned with the gap between the two halves, but it still wants to bunch off to one side. I could see where the spring had been rubbing on the striker channel in one spot. I put the factory spring cups back in and it looks much better. I will test fire it while we are camping today or tomorrow.

Side note. S&B is filthy ammo. I will stick with Federal and CCI/Speer going forward. I got tempted by a sale price. I should know better.

[evi1joe]

My real question is for those with an EPS is it worth it over a 407k or 507k

I really love that it's got a lower deck-height than the 407K/507K.
It's basically perfect with the CR920 sights (though I may even want the irons a little lower--as the entire rear notch is visible).
I'm a big fan and plan on buying more of these.

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I want to try an OEM glock 43X/43/48 trigger housing and a good trigger like tyr/agency/overwatch in the CR920, but I don't want to spend more on it if I'm just going to end up back with my 365XL.

The CR920 certainly does feel quite a bit lighter and handier than the XL, and it seems to shoot like 80% as soft.
I'm torn because I either need to choose the CR920 or get one of the new XL slides that have a rear iron sight. I don't know if the OEM sights will be tall enough, even with the EPS, but the ZEV slide has a deeper cut and would totally work with OEM sights, but it would end up costing a lot more.

[G19Fan]

I really love that it's got a lower deck-height than the 407K/507K.
It's basically perfect with the CR920 sights (though I may even want the irons a little lower--as the entire rear notch is visible).
I'm a big fan and plan on buying more of these.

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I want to try an OEM glock 43X/43/48 trigger housing and a good trigger like tyr/agency/overwatch in the CR920, but I don't want to spend more on it if I'm just going to end up back with my 365XL.

The CR920 certainly does feel quite a bit lighter and handier than the XL, and it seems to shoot like 80% as soft.
I'm torn because I either need to choose the CR920 or get one of the new XL slides that have a rear iron sight. I don't know if the OEM sights will be tall enough, even with the EPS, but the ZEV slide has a deeper cut and would totally work with OEM sights, but it would end up costing a lot more.

It is hard. I constantly want to poo poo the xl and I want to love my cr920, but the xl does shoot softer and is more reliable.

I think we may just need to be a g19 and p365xl family lo

[evi1joe]

It is hard. I constantly want to poo poo the xl and I want to love my cr920, but the xl does shoot softer and is more reliable.
I think we may just need to be a g19 and p365xl family lo

Yep. The only thing I don't like about my XL is that I want rear-irons. **Lucky Gunner's latest video, where the holosun on his XL lost vertical alignment made me even more determined to get the rear iron slide that's now available (or go the ZEV route). Eventually, I will move back to a Spectre Comp slide, but the cost is a bit prohibitive at the moment.

I've been comparing the CR920 and the XL a lot lately, and--maybe because I'm a 30yr Glock guy--the CR just feels so right, even if I worry it might be wrong. It definitely points and indexes much more naturally for me.
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NOTE: my G19 is going to be put up against a PDP-F 4" soon...but already the chonkiness of that PDP slide is a bit of a turn-off. So far, it's fended off everything except the zev320 was awful nice.

[G19Fan]

Yep. The only thing I don't like about my XL is that I want rear-irons. **Lucky Gunner's latest video, where the holosun on his XL lost vertical alignment made me even more determined to get the rear iron slide that's now available (or go the ZEV route). Eventually, I will move back to a Spectre Comp slide, but the cost is a bit prohibitive at the moment.

I've been comparing the CR920 and the XL a lot lately, and--maybe because I'm a 30yr Glock guy--the CR just feels so right, even if I worry it might be wrong. It definitely points and indexes much more naturally for me.
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NOTE: my G19 is going to be put up against a PDP-F 4" soon...but already the chonkiness of that PDP slide is a bit of a turn-off. So far, it's fended off everything except the zev320 was awful nice.


I'm a 25+ year G19 guy myself. My wife has been pushing me to move to the P365XL (her carry) cause then we can standardize carry and share mags. I never loved the P365XL till the wilson grips.

Ran drills for a few hours today learned that I shoot a P365XL better than a G19 (I do have relatively small hands). Guess I'm swapping...

Funny enough took getting a unreliable CR920 to revisit the P365XL which I hated but I wanted to give it one more try with a wilson grip module after a member's recommendation. Funny.

https://imgur.com/a/cdC81Bg

[GJM]

Yep. The only thing I don't like about my XL is that I want rear-irons. **Lucky Gunner's latest video, where the holosun on his XL lost vertical alignment made me even more determined to get the rear iron slide that's now available (or go the ZEV route). Eventually, I will move back to a Spectre Comp slide, but the cost is a bit prohibitive at the moment.

I've been comparing the CR920 and the XL a lot lately, and--maybe because I'm a 30yr Glock guy--the CR just feels so right, even if I worry it might be wrong. It definitely points and indexes much more naturally for me.
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NOTE: my G19 is going to be put up against a PDP-F 4" soon...but already the chonkiness of that PDP slide is a bit of a turn-off. So far, it's fended off everything except the zev320 was awful nice.


If you haven't, you should try shooting some groups with the Holosun notch and your front sight. I was able to keep my shots on a uspsa head at 20 yards. That allows you to keep the optic more rearward and further from ejection port blast and eliminates a sharp thing on the rear of the slide.

[G19Fan]

If you haven't, you should try shooting some groups with the Holosun notch and your front sight. I was able to keep my shots on a uspsa head at 20 yards. That allows you to keep the optic more rearward and further from ejection port blast and eliminates a sharp thing on the rear of the slide.

Yeah I actually like the holosun notch and no rear sight.

I really really need a pair of eps carry 2moa asap lol

[cornstalker]

75 rounds today with no light strikes. Seeing the hard physical evidence of my mistake, I am pretty convinced it's fixed.
I did manage to engage the slide lock during a string of fire with Fed 124 HST.

I am starting to develop a bit of a jaundiced eye toward the CR920. I did some AIWB concealment comparisons between the CR920 and my MR920. I can make both disappear under an untucked tee shirt. Both print on the end of the grip when I twist left, or if the wind pins my shirt to me. Aside from the weight savings, I am really starting to question my own sanity regarding the amount of time and money I have spent trying to make these slim guns work. The P365XL is the shining star in my trials so far, but I wonder if I should pull the plug and just sell off the midget guns and stick with G19-sized guns. A few thousand dollars later and I am not sure that the juice has been worth the squeeze.

They seem like a great idea, but I am done screwing with stuff. I just want something that works like it is supposed to, when it is supposed to. When every little hiccup leads to hundreds of rounds of proving, it can sure wear out your brain and your wallet. I think I may keep a G43 around for ankle carry and ditch the rest of the little guns. An MR920 for carry and an XR920 with WML for HD should do fine. Both of those guns have been fairly drama free and I shoot well with them. I am a bit worn out with the CR920 and may have reached my threshold.

Sorry for venting.

[cornstalker]

I will add that I have tried to duplicate what it would take to lock the slide back during a string of fire. The frame has a feature built in to prevent that and it seems to work very well. I could not duplicate the failure. I have no idea how it happened in live fire. I must have got enough support hand meat on it to nudge it up at the wrong time.

[G19Fan]

75 rounds today with no light strikes. Seeing the hard physical evidence of my mistake, I am pretty convinced it's fixed.
I did manage to engage the slide lock during a string of fire with Fed 124 HST.

I am starting to develop a bit of a jaundiced eye toward the CR920. I did some AIWB concealment comparisons between the CR920 and my MR920. I can make both disappear under an untucked tee shirt. Both print on the end of the grip when I twist left, or if the wind pins my shirt to me. Aside from the weight savings, I am really starting to question my own sanity regarding the amount of time and money I have spent trying to make these slim guns work. The P365XL is the shining star in my trials so far, but I wonder if I should pull the plug and just sell off the midget guns and stick with G19-sized guns. A few thousand dollars later and I am not sure that the juice has been worth the squeeze.

They seem like a great idea, but I am done screwing with stuff. I just want something that works like it is supposed to, when it is supposed to. When every little hiccup leads to hundreds of rounds of proving, it can sure wear out your brain and your wallet. I think I may keep a G43 around for ankle carry and ditch the rest of the little guns. An MR920 for carry and an XR920 with WML for HD should do fine. Both of those guns have been fairly drama free and I shoot well with them. I am a bit worn out with the CR920 and may have reached my threshold.

Sorry for venting.

If you wanna sell a p365xl or some mags I am interested =)

May even have a mr920 frame with gen 4 G19 upper to barter

[G19Fan]

75 rounds today with no light strikes. Seeing the hard physical evidence of my mistake, I am pretty convinced it's fixed.
I did manage to engage the slide lock during a string of fire with Fed 124 HST.

I am starting to develop a bit of a jaundiced eye toward the CR920. I did some AIWB concealment comparisons between the CR920 and my MR920. I can make both disappear under an untucked tee shirt. Both print on the end of the grip when I twist left, or if the wind pins my shirt to me. Aside from the weight savings, I am really starting to question my own sanity regarding the amount of time and money I have spent trying to make these slim guns work. The P365XL is the shining star in my trials so far, but I wonder if I should pull the plug and just sell off the midget guns and stick with G19-sized guns. A few thousand dollars later and I am not sure that the juice has been worth the squeeze.

They seem like a great idea, but I am done screwing with stuff. I just want something that works like it is supposed to, when it is supposed to. When every little hiccup leads to hundreds of rounds of proving, it can sure wear out your brain and your wallet. I think I may keep a G43 around for ankle carry and ditch the rest of the little guns. An MR920 for carry and an XR920 with WML for HD should do fine. Both of those guns have been fairly drama free and I shoot well with them. I am a bit worn out with the CR920 and may have reached my threshold.

Sorry for venting.

I will say if you have big hands I would 100% go with a g19 sized gun. I don't have big hands and I shoot a g19 well. The Wilson p365xl does point a tad more natural.

I agree on concealment being the same

[cornstalker]

I don’t currently have a P365XL. My sister has my old one.

I have small hands and short thumbs. Just the same, I shoot well with the Shadow G19/G17 sized guns with the mid-sized grip panel.

I might buy another P365XL. We will see what the trade scene looks like tomorrow.

[G19Fan]

I don’t currently have a P365XL. My sister has my old one.

I have small hands and short thumbs. Just the same, I shoot well with the Shadow G19/G17 sized guns with the mid-sized grip panel.

I might buy another P365XL. We will see what the trade scene looks like tomorrow.

Yeah I shoot fine with a g19 pistol. I do find a g48 or p365xl with Wilson grip a bit less and points a tad more natural.

I just don't love the g48

[GJM]

Around here, my wife and I use the 365 series for slim lines and the Glock 19/45 for mid size. Those seem reliable, accessorized, with reasonable shooting ergos.

[G19Fan]

Around here, my wife and I use the 365 series for slim lines and the Glock 19/45 for mid size. Those seem reliable, accessorized, with reasonable shooting ergos.

I think we are settling into the exact same model.

I do wonder if the p365xl can replace my g19 for most use. That way my wife doesn't need to think about mags that are out.

[cornstalker]

My CR920 got dropped off to be sold on consignment today. In fact, so did the rest of my slimline guns including my G43 and G43X MOS with PMM Micro JTTC barrel and comp. I did drag a P365XL back home.

I sure hope you guys have better luck with the CR920 than I did. Mine was screwed from the get-go. The cover plate screw 2mm Allen head spun right out with minimal effort. I had to pound a size 0 square drive in it to get it out, and it wasn't even that tight. The optics mounting kit I got was out of spec. (The replacement kit worked as they described it should) I sent it back for reliability issues. It came back with a new barrel, a correction to the extractor cut, and an unusable trigger pack. They never said a word about the trigger being replaced. It went in with around a 5.5# trigger with a rolling break and came back with a 7.5# trigger with a very defined wall and it would sometimes not reset.

It took a lot of work and some extra money to get it to a point where I could sell it in good conscience as a functioning gun. I didn't really want to let the SSVI trigger go with it, but the Shadow trigger wasn't usable.

Over and out on the CR920. I am glad that my MR920 and XR920 are not giving me any notable problems. In fact, they are awesome!

[G19Fan]

My CR920 got dropped off to be sold on consignment today. In fact, so did the rest of my slimline guns including my G43 and G43X MOS with PMM Micro JTTC barrel and comp. I did drag a P365XL back home.

I sure hope you guys have better luck with the CR920 than I did. Mine was screwed from the get-go. The cover plate screw 2mm Allen head spun right out with minimal effort. I had to pound a size 0 square drive in it to get it out, and it wasn't even that tight. The optics mounting kit I got was out of spec. (The replacement kit worked as they described it should) I sent it back for reliability issues. It came back with a new barrel, a correction to the extractor cut, and an unusable trigger pack. They never said a word about the trigger being replaced. It went in with around a 5.5# trigger with a rolling break and came back with a 7.5# trigger with a very defined wall and it would sometimes not reset.

It took a lot of work and some extra money to get it to a point where I could sell it in good conscience as a functioning gun. I didn't really want to let the SSVI trigger go with it, but the Shadow trigger wasn't usable.

Over and out on the CR920. I am glad that my MR920 and XR920 are not giving me any notable problems. In fact, they are awesome!

Agreed mine just got traded for a p365xl. Wasn't worth the hassle

[RP4120]

Looks great. If my cr920 comes back reliable I am getting one too

Did the ESP Carry screw holes line up perfectly with the CR920 slide optic mount holes whith the optic using the front spacer and tight against the back wall of the optic cut? Mine does not and Shadow Systems Technical Adverser just told me on a phone call that screws were designed to be slightly angled to start them. I have a hard time viewing this is true. I feel the holes in the slide are milled incorrectly. I have also tried 4 different, brand new holosun eps carry optic with the same results.

[G19Fan]

Did the ESP Carry screw holes line up perfectly with the CR920 slide optic mount holes whith the optic using the front spacer and tight against the back wall of the optic cut? Mine does not and Shadow Systems Technical Adverser just told me on a phone call that screws were designed to be slightly angled to start them. I have a hard time viewing this is true. I feel the holes in the slide are milled incorrectly. I have also tried 4 different, brand new holosun eps carry optic with the same results.

Yours are milled incorrectly. I sold my cr920s due to poor qc but my buddy's eps carry and 507k dropped right on a cr920

That is bs of the customer service

[backtrail540]

p/Cnf4Tz3BERn

With as many qc issues as you guys seem to have with these, they either figured them out or said screw it, what could go worse and dropped a comped version of the cr920.

[cornstalker]

p/Cnf4Tz3BERn

With as many qc issues as you guys seem to have with these, they either figured them out or said screw it, what could go worse and dropped a comped version of the cr920.

They seem to have more of a "now, not how" business model, like Sig.
I do like the innovation of their designs and hope they get things figured out.

[Tokarev]

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-shadow-systems-cr920-elite/

[Tokarev]

https://youtu.be/K8iGpNu0680

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[tskyfox6969]

This is my issue thread it's documenting the progress dealing with shadow systems ..


https://www.reddit.com/r/shadowsystems/s/p2VXpJiWWT

[TicTacticalTimmy]

https://www.bereli.com/shadow-systems-cr920-foundation-9mm-3-41-10rd-optic-ready-pistol-black/

Do you guys think it is worth the QC gamble at this price? I figure at this point either they have fixed their issues and are ready to rebuild their reputation, or they are a sinking ship and blowing them out....

[Kirk]

https://www.bereli.com/shadow-systems-cr920-foundation-9mm-3-41-10rd-optic-ready-pistol-black/

Do you guys think it is worth the QC gamble at this price? I figure at this point either they have fixed their issues and are ready to rebuild their reputation, or they are a sinking ship and blowing them out....

I’m just one person, not an expert, same caveats as always, etc. But I would not buy a Shadow Systems for serious use myself. I’m just not a fan of any Glock clone that doesn’t use all OEM parts. Their QC is just so hit or miss at this point that I wouldn’t do it.

The responses to that Reddit thread above are such classic Reddit. “My Shadow Systems is great, it has 275 flawless rounds through it!”

[G19Fan]

https://www.bereli.com/shadow-systems-cr920-foundation-9mm-3-41-10rd-optic-ready-pistol-black/

Do you guys think it is worth the QC gamble at this price? I figure at this point either they have fixed their issues and are ready to rebuild their reputation, or they are a sinking ship and blowing them out....

As someone would had 3.mr920 and 3 cr920s. The cr920 pushed me to p365s

A close friend purchased mine with issue disclosed and he has had some issues but he is fine carrying it despite that.

[G19Fan]

I’m just one person, not an expert, same caveats as always, etc. But I would not buy a Shadow Systems for serious use myself. I’m just not a fan of any Glock clone that doesn’t use all OEM parts. Their QC is just so hit or miss at this point that I wouldn’t do it.

The responses to that Reddit thread above are such classic Reddit. “My Shadow Systems is great, it has 275 flawless rounds through it!”

Reddit is so dumb. 50 rounds. My gun is super reliable

[DMCutter]

Mine has been trouble free for many hundreds of rounds. For that price I may pick up a second one. The grip fits my hand better than the Wilson module on the 365 and I prefer the trigger to the 365, but I guess I'm in the minority.

[backtrail540]

Cr920x screenshot from reddit.

117942

[G19Fan]

Mine has been trouble free for many hundreds of rounds. For that price I may pick up a second one. The grip fits my hand better than the Wilson module on the 365 and I prefer the trigger to the 365, but I guess I'm in the minority.

I actually like the guns ergos and shooting

Just they aren't reliable and break