Somebody, make flush fit mags for Glocks please

[YVK]

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[Hstanton1]

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85974

The mags are really where I get like 80% of my printing issues from on glocks. If I could get boresight to partially cut a g17 down but leave a lip on the back strap to make a g19 mag more flush, that would be awesome.

[Elwin]

The mags are really where I get like 80% of my printing issues from on glocks. If I could get boresight to partially cut a g17 down but leave a lip on the back strap to make a g19 mag more flush, that would be awesome.

I’ve definitely seen that done with other cut jobs, and if I went Glock I think it’d be a requirement for me.

Size wise it would basically make for a PPQ-sized Glock. Just barely bigger in the grip than a 19.

[Navin Johnson]

I found that the 43x and the 48 print about as much as a 19 because of that corner in the rear of the magazine plus how much it sticks out.

After playing with other guns with contoured to the grip magazines that don't stick out a nother quarter inch it makes it difficult to want to carry a glock concealed.

Once I have finished vetting my shield plus my 43x will be gone. (One of many reasons why)

[Lon]

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85974

Are you running a WML?

[Blades]

I am thinking I "need" a Glock 17 for my Blue Label purchase this year and want the grip chopped to 19 size. I have seen the cut-down grip you described, and grabbed a picture:
https://i.imgur.com/dXnmgNK.png?1

But that one doesn't look right in the picture. I've seen other pictures where it looks correct/right. I emailed one company but never heard back. I'd like to use the G19 grip adaptors on the chopped G17 grip. We'll see. I have subfloors that need repair first.

[YVK]

Are you running a WML?

Not really in any active way. My 19 on the right has a 300 attached and serves as a nightstand gun, when I am not too lazy to pull it out. That trigger guard coverage is substandard.

[Up1911Fan]

The mags are really where I get like 80% of my printing issues from on glocks. If I could get boresight to partially cut a g17 down but leave a lip on the back strap to make a g19 mag more flush, that would be awesome.


I am thinking I "need" a Glock 17 for my Blue Label purchase this year and want the grip chopped to 19 size. I have seen the cut-down grip you described, and grabbed a picture:
https://i.imgur.com/dXnmgNK.png?1

But that one doesn't look right in the picture. I've seen other pictures where it looks correct/right. I emailed one company but never heard back. I'd like to use the G19 grip adaptors on the chopped G17 grip. We'll see. I have subfloors that need repair first.
I had one cut down by ColdBore Custom. Lane does a good job on them.

Pics on page 2.
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?23689-RFI-Glock-17K/page2&highlight=Cold+bore

[Lon]

Not really in any active way. My 19 on the right has a 300 attached and serves as a nightstand gun, when I am not too lazy to pull it out. That trigger guard coverage is substandard.

I don’t run a WML either on my off duty guns. I have found that the chopped 19K or 26L configuration really works well for me and still gives me 13 rounds. If I carried or wanted to carry a decent WML, I’d probably send that ATEi 19 I got from you and have it chopped down to take 26 mags professionally.

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[4RNR]

How about steel/alloy base plates? Or is that not a thing outside of +2 adapters?

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[Up1911Fan]

How about steel/alloy base plates? Or is that not a thing outside of +2 adapters?

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How would that print any less?

[4RNR]

How would that print any less?Thinner

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[Up1911Fan]

Thinner

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Lol the way a Glock baseplate attaches I don't see the material making a difference.

[4RNR]

Lol the way a Glock baseplate attaches I don't see the material making a difference.I don't know, I'm just saying, maybe it's a thing. I thought maybe someone else had the same idea and made something. I'm very much OEM so anything aftermarket may as well be Chinese rocket surgery for me. Besides I carry a G19X or 17 in the summer without issues so this particular problem doesn't effect me

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[jbrimlow]

How about steel/alloy base plates? Or is that not a thing outside of +2 adapters?

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Those exist. Usually called "+0" baseplates. E.g. https://tarantacticalinnovations.com/0-base-pad-for-glock-9-40-oem-magazines/

Competitors like them because they add weight to the mag so it drops free easier/faster, even if their sport/division doesn't allow more capacity. (IDPA and Production are capped at 10 rounds per mag, but you still want the mags to come out easier).

[4RNR]

Those exist. Usually called "+0" baseplates. E.g. https://tarantacticalinnovations.com/0-base-pad-for-glock-9-40-oem-magazines/

Competitors like them because they add weight to the mag so it drops free easier/faster, even if their sport/division doesn't allow more capacity. (IDPA and Production are capped at 10 rounds per mag, but you still want the mags to come out easier).I was referring to something like this. Just a basic ass metal base plate circa 1990



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[JonInWA]

If roughly 5/16s of an inch makes that much of a difference (and that by my measurment includes both the baseplate and the gap to the receiver bottom) in printing or not printing, I'd suggest an easier alternative approach would be to holistically re-evaluate your holster/holster positioning, belt and clothing choices.

I'm not a big guy, but with very little effort I can easily EDC a "big butt" Gen 3 G21. Easies (for me)t is with a quality IWB kydex holster, and, say, an infinitely adjustable Wilderness belt.

Actually, while it's probably not most people's holster of choice, it can also be easily achieved with Glock's $15 Sport/Combat OWB belt slide holster.

In my experience. I' MUCH rather have a thicker, more rounded basepad (like Glock's) than a thinner metal one with sharp corners (as on a High Power)...from the multiple aspects of durability. rust asnd comfort levels.

Best, Jon

[TOTS]

I was referring to something like this. Just a basic ass metal base plate circa 1990



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Good thought but basepad is held on differently. Not conducive to that design.

[4RNR]

Good thought but basepad is held on differently. Not conducive to that design.Gotcha!

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[Brianjkeene]

The vickers tool kit/base pads do a good job of preventing the magazine from printing.

https://tangodown.com/vickers-tactical-gen4-gen5-glock-grip-plug-take-down-tool/

[WDR]

The vickers tool kit/base pads do a good job of preventing the magazine from printing.

https://tangodown.com/vickers-tactical-gen4-gen5-glock-grip-plug-take-down-tool/

I've thought about trying the base plates, mostly because the sharp rear inboard corner of the G17 mag I carry "AIWB" on my off side sometimes pokes and irritates me, and I thought the more rounded shape might do that less. I'm not sure if these would help the printing issue YVK is talking about, but they might just be "round" enough to help.

[TQP]

The vickers tool kit/base pads do a good job of preventing the magazine from printing.

https://tangodown.com/vickers-tactical-gen4-gen5-glock-grip-plug-take-down-tool/

I have those for my 19s. If I don't remember to take them off prior to a class, I'm reminded in the first couple reloads. Maybe it's just me but I tend to pinch my hand between it and the mag.

[Kirk]

The vickers tool kit/base pads do a good job of preventing the magazine from printing.

https://tangodown.com/vickers-tactical-gen4-gen5-glock-grip-plug-take-down-tool/

Big fan of this in my carry Glocks.

I've always wondered why Glock never tried to make their mags fit more flush. But, as a bigger guy, I could probably conceal an Uzi, so mag printing has never really been a problem for me.

[Texaspoff]

Same is accomplished with this modification I came up with. It was actually done to extend the backstrap on the G19 since It always felt a little short for me. When I was still running Glocks, all mine were done this way.

https://i.imgur.com/Z4Ppu00l.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/iiCW8erl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/a2o7qG0l.jpg?1



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[CDFIII]

I think a similar fix could be achieved using one of the TD/ Vickers grip plugs. I ordered one to give it a try since I was looking for just a little more length to the back strap of my 19.
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[TGS]

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Holy exposed trigger, batman.

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[WDR]

Holy exposed trigger, batman.

:eek:

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<Doc Holliday voice> How lewd... </Doc Holliday voice>

[YVK]

Holy exposed trigger, batman.



This a WML holster for a Surefire 300. Trigger guard cover piece was rubbing me in a wrong way so I trimmed it. In a wrong way too. This rig doesn't get carried, more like a storage bin.

[psalms144.1]

This a WML holster for a Surefire 300. Trigger guard cover piece was rubbing me in a wrong way so I trimmed it. In a wrong way too. This rig doesn't get carried, more like a storage bin.I thought I saw dremel marks. Good on you for ratting yourself out!

[MattyD380]

I don’t have Glocks. But I’ve found that the flat metal Beretta M9 GI base plates fit more than Beretta mags. They fit CZ mags and possibly others. But sounds like the Glock base plates might be a different animal in terms of how they attach.

[EVP]

Are there any aftermarket Glock base plates that have a more rounded profile?

I was thinking one could sand and shape the corner if the baseplate works. I also know that there is a ton of different baseplates up and don’t know all of them. I might try the tango down vickers plates and do some sanding on the corner.

[WobblyPossum]

Same is accomplished with this modification I came up with. It was actually done to extend the backstrap on the G19 since It always felt a little short for me. When I was still running Glocks, all mine were done this way.

https://i.imgur.com/Z4Ppu00l.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/iiCW8erl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/a2o7qG0l.jpg?1



TXPO

Something like this, or alternatively cutting a G45 frame down to take G19 mags while keeping a little tail to overlap the back of the mag, is exactly what I want in a Glock. Sadly, my job prohibits modifying the frame in any way. I’m allowed to take the slide down to Bubba’s Crab Shack and Metalwork Emporium to have it milled for a red dot and refinished, but god forbid an agent gets a frame stippled.

[Bucky]

Unless my mind is deceiving me, I seem to remember my Gen 1 G17 with original mag stuck out noticeably less than my Gen 3 G17. Unfortunately, I sold that one. :(

[Texaspoff]

Something like this, or alternatively cutting a G45 frame down to take G19 mags while keeping a little tail to overlap the back of the mag, is exactly what I want in a Glock. Sadly, my job prohibits modifying the frame in any way. I’m allowed to take the slide down to Bubba’s Crab Shack and Metalwork Emporium to have it milled for a red dot and refinished, but god forbid an agent gets a frame stippled.

Yeah Feds are sticklers for that stuff. I have done several US Marshalls and DEA personally owned weapons though. :)


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[KevH]

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[Le Français]

Yeah Feds are sticklers for that stuff. I have done several US Marshalls and DEA personally owned weapons though. :)
TXPO

Some agencies don't allow you to modify, or even shoot non-issued ammo out of, POWs that you carry on duty.

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[JAH 3rd]

My P2000 looks just like your picture. I did take off the OEM floor plate with the pinky extension that protruded below the grip. I installed the flat floor plate and fits flush now. I also like that little lip on the grip frame forward of the magazine.

[SecondsCount]

My P2000 looks just like your picture. I did take off the OEM floor plate with the pinky extension that protruded below the grip. I installed the flat floor plate and fits flush now. I also like that little lip on the grip frame forward of the magazine.
Modern pistols are modern ;)

My pic was to illustrate that you can have striker fired and flush fit mags.

[Hstanton1]

If the VP9 grip was more like the USP grip in shape it would be a far more shootable gun in my hands.

[Whiskey_Bravo]

Same is accomplished with this modification I came up with. It was actually done to extend the backstrap on the G19 since It always felt a little short for me. When I was still running Glocks, all mine were done this way.
TXPO

Any chance you could post a picture of one of these modded Glocks with a 17 mag inserted? I have a couple 17s I'm considering chopping.

[balance]

Somebody, make flush fit mags for Glocks please

I'd imagine you'd be giving up 3-4 rounds of capacity. Then there's the issue of polymer mags that are generally wider than steel mags, so the amount of manufacturers willing to make aftermarket reliable polymer mags, or reliable steel mags, would seem to be another issue.

[YVK]

I am giving up 5 rounds by having to carry a G26 or P365 90%+ of time anyway. All-metal Shield mags for G43x/G48 increased capacity over standard Glock polymer mags by 50% / 5 rounds although Shield also didn't think to offer a flush fit deal. Based on what we see manufacturers accomplish with all-steel mags like Shield or P365, I dunno if loss of mag capacity with flush fit mags is a given.

This is all rhetorical, of course. Mag makers are unlikely to see the demand, and Glock is unlikely to see the need as long as their sales are strong. That said, Glock is already losing a capacity-for-the size battle to P365s and Hellcats and Shield Plus. If they continue to stick those mags out by a centimeter, their standings with the concealed crowd will be harder to defend. I'am a big Glock fan and I kinda wish that it wouldn't happen.

[balance]

All-metal Shield mags for G43x/G48 increased capacity over standard Glock polymer mags by 50% / 5 rounds although Shield also didn't think to offer a flush fit deal.

The issue I see is that steel mags would have to fit in a magwell that was designed around polymer mags. Either you'd have to make thick steel mags, or you'd have to put divots/channels on the sides of the mag in order to make up the volume. Price and reliability would be a concern for me.


This is all rhetorical, of course.

I get it, and I'm not trying to be a downer, but this is what initially popped in my head when I read the thread title.