PDA

View Full Version : New Colt CR6920 Initial Impressions



MattyD380
01-31-2022, 12:02 PM
As you may or may not know, there's been some "controversy" lately on the newest iteration of Colt's 6920 rifles. The consensus is that Colt stopped making a lot of the components in-house when they reintroduced the 6920s a year or so ago... likely because they have fewer military contracts, and it probably makes more financial sense to outsource components. "CR" has (apparently) replaced the "LE" prefix to distinguish the post-2019 6920s vs. the previous ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf43zByGu9U&t=477s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNXD_LUT61M

In any case... I bought one. On sale for $899 at my LGS. Why not? Figured I'd share some initial impressions...

83576

Caveat: This is my first AR. So, I don't exactly have rich context/experience as a basis of comparison. But I saw at least one thread here on the 6920s (and the requisite "controversy") so, I figured some might have interest. Plus, I have some questions of my own...

Appearance

The rifle looks and feels really nice. The finish looks good to me. And, other than a slightly rattly stock, it seems solidly put together. I can't detect any play/movement between the upper and lower. The bolt cycles smoothly (as far as I can tell) and the safety gives a nice positive snick. The trigger is... about what I'd expect for mil-spec. Some creep and a fairly heavy wall. But I'm not complaining.

Markings

I'm not an expert on the markings, but, as some pointed out, the new markings on the CRs (or lack thereof) are different from what you'd get on the LEs. I didn't take the hand guard off to see the barrel marking, but my research (which consists of Youtube videos and forum lurking) suggests that at least some of the barrels are being made by "Rosco." Never heard of them, but I guess they make good-quality, mil-spec parts... so... works for me. The hammer is marked "F3" and the military "cage code" appears on the barrel and the upper. The mag well is simply marked "CARBINE." Some people seem to be gravely offended by this; I guess it used to say "M4" or something about "restricted LE use." I don't really care one way or another as long as the rifle works.

83577835788357983580

Function

Before shooting, I stripped the bolt & carrier, cleaned it, lubed it with basic gun oil. Didn't clean the bore (because I didn't have a rod that fit). I scrounged up some ammo locally and put 100 rounds through it (some 5.56, some .223). No problems whatsoever. I realize that's not a lot, but, it's a start. It was a blast to shoot. Did some double and triple taps. Ran great. Most of the groups are at 15 yards, top left is 25 yards. Keep in mind I've never shot an AR on paper, so I was trying to get a sense of the sight picture.

83582

Feed Ramps

Here's where I have a bit of a question (concern?). After shooting, I noticed what looked like wear on the feed ramps--like, bare metal, where the finish was worn off. You can see it here; it's mainly on the little wedge that separates the two feed ramps.

83581

Research reveals that others have noticed this same kinda thing on newer Colts; the consensus is that the ramps are actually being "de-burred" by hand at the factory and then not refinished: https://www.1911forum.com/threads/colt-ar15a4-has-buggered-barrel-extension-feed-ramps.998064/page-3

I'm guessing that's what I'm seeing in that photo? Anyone know anything about this? Is this normal for ARs? Or Colt ARs?

At the end of the day, I really don't care as long as the rifle is 100% reliable and it stays that way. I bought the Colt because I wanted a rugged, no-BS, mil-spec rifle. Maybe it's actually a "value added" feature that increases reliability? Or maybe not... I just don't know.

Anyway...

I've got 500 rounds of 5.56 coming soon. So, I'll be shooting it some more in the near future.

Thanks for reading.

HCM
01-31-2022, 01:55 PM
As you may or may not know, there's been some "controversy" lately on the newest iteration of Colt's 6920 rifles. The consensus is that Colt stopped making a lot of the components in-house when they reintroduced the 6920s a year or so ago... likely because they have fewer military contracts, and it probably makes more financial sense to outsource components. "CR" has (apparently) replaced the "LE" prefix to distinguish the post-2019 6920s vs. the previous ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf43zByGu9U&t=477s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNXD_LUT61M

In any case... I bought one. On sale for $899 at my LGS. Why not? Figured I'd share some initial impressions...

83576

Caveat: This is my first AR. So, I don't exactly have rich context/experience as a basis of comparison. But I saw at least one thread here on the 6920s (and the requisite "controversy") so, I figured some might have interest. Plus, I have some questions of my own...

Appearance

The rifle looks and feels really nice. The finish looks good to me. And, other than a slightly rattly stock, it seems solidly put together. I can't detect any play/movement between the upper and lower. The bolt cycles smoothly (as far as I can tell) and the safety gives a nice positive snick. The trigger is... about what I'd expect for mil-spec. Some creep and a fairly heavy wall. But I'm not complaining.

Markings

I'm not an expert on the markings, but, as some pointed out, the new markings on the CRs (or lack thereof) are different from what you'd get on the LEs. I didn't take the hand guard off to see the barrel marking, but my research (which consists of Youtube videos and forum lurking) suggests that at least some of the barrels are being made by "Rosco." Never heard of them, but I guess they make good-quality, mil-spec parts... so... works for me. The hammer is marked "F3" and the military "cage code" appears on the barrel and the upper. The mag well is simply marked "CARBINE." Some people seem to be gravely offended by this; I guess it used to say "M4" or something about "restricted LE use." I don't really care one way or another as long as the rifle works.

83577835788357983580

Function

Before shooting, I stripped the bolt & carrier, cleaned it, lubed it with basic gun oil. Didn't clean the bore (because I didn't have a rod that fit). I scrounged up some ammo locally and put 100 rounds through it (some 5.56, some .223). No problems whatsoever. I realize that's not a lot, but, it's a start. It was a blast to shoot. Did some double and triple taps. Ran great. Most of the groups are at 15 yards, top left is 25 yards. Keep in mind I've never shot an AR on paper, so I was trying to get a sense of the sight picture.

83582

Feed Ramps

Here's where I have a bit of a question (concern?). After shooting, I noticed what looked like wear on the feed ramps--like, bare metal, where the finish was worn off. You can see it here; it's mainly on the little wedge that separates the two feed ramps.

83581

Research reveals that others have noticed this same kinda thing on newer Colts; the consensus is that the ramps are actually being "de-burred" by hand at the factory and then not refinished: https://www.1911forum.com/threads/colt-ar15a4-has-buggered-barrel-extension-feed-ramps.998064/page-3

I'm guessing that's what I'm seeing in that photo? Anyone know anything about this? Is this normal for ARs? Or Colt ARs?

At the end of the day, I really don't care as long as the rifle is 100% reliable and it stays that way. I bought the Colt because I wanted a rugged, no-BS, mil-spec rifle. Maybe it's actually a "value added" feature that increases reliability? Or maybe not... I just don't know.

Anyway...

I've got 500 rounds of 5.56 coming soon. So, I'll be shooting it some more in the near future.

Thanks for reading.

Cool.

Your feed ramps are normal.

Rosco is a decent barrel maker. They OEM for other companies. This is far from the first time colt has outsourced OEM A.R. 15 barrels. Many colts have barrels that were actually made by Green Mountain.

This so-called controversy basically involves collectors and wanna be collectors whining about markings and whether or not the parts are made in the house by colt. Truth is as long as it is a mil spec for cage code part it doesn’t matter.

Ironically most of the “Colts” In-service with the US military are actually wearing uppers made by DS arms (the FAL people) via the M4A1 upgrade program. It’s no different than all of the M1 grands, M1 carbines and 1911 pistol’s rebuilt after World War II in Korea.

Joe in PNG
01-31-2022, 04:32 PM
Could you post a photo of the top of the bolt, so we can see what the gas key staking looks like?

DDTSGM
01-31-2022, 05:46 PM
The hammer is marked "F3" and the military "cage code" appears on the barrel and the upper.

Matty - If the barrel has a cage code marking on it, that should tell you for sure. Rosco's cage code is 72CS5. Green Mountain has used two - 5ZX15 and 66GJ0

I'd also like to offer a suggestion for cleaning equipment. I've gone almost exclusively to this bore squeegee system:

https://rogersshootingschool.com/collections/featured/products/bore-squeeg-e%E2%84%A2-cleaning-system

As well as these:

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Avid-Chamber-Boss-Black/dp/B07YL75ZHR

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Avid-223-Chamber-Cleaning/dp/B00IOF6610?th=1

Those things, a couple of toothbrushes and an old tee-shirt and you are good to go.

I generally stick with Slip 200 EWL for lube, but everyone has opinions on that and I certainly have a bunch of different brands on the shelf. https://slip2000.com/pages/about-ewl-extreme-weapons-lubricant

MattyD380
01-31-2022, 07:09 PM
Cool.

Your feed ramps are normal.

Rosco is a decent barrel maker. They OEM for other companies. This is far from the first time colt has outsourced OEM A.R. 15 barrels. Many colts have barrels that were actually made by Green Mountain.

This so-called controversy basically involves collectors and wanna be collectors whining about markings and whether or not the parts are made in the house by colt. Truth is as long as it is a mil spec for cage code part it doesn’t matter.

Ironically most of the “Colts” In-service with the US military are actually wearing uppers made by DS arms (the FAL people) via the M4A1 upgrade program. It’s no different than all of the M1 grands, M1 carbines and 1911 pistol’s rebuilt after World War II in Korea.

Awesome. Thanks for the perspective.

With that reassurance on the feed ramp, I'm 100% satisfied with the purchase... so far. Looking forward to putting a lot more rounds through it.

As far as the whole outsourcing "controversy"... I got the sense that--outsourced or not--the parts used were still subject to meeting mil-spec standards (the military's TDP, right?). I don't know if that's entirely true, but, all the anecdotal reports I read said that new CRs ran well and were well made. That's what I was looking for. And mine seems to support that.

MattyD380
01-31-2022, 07:18 PM
Could you post a photo of the top of the bolt, so we can see what the gas key staking looks like?

Curious to hear your take on it, actually. I guess it looks all right? Seems like there’s a decent amount metal peened into the rivets? But I dunno…

8358983590

Joe in PNG
01-31-2022, 07:31 PM
I'm no real expert on the subject- and hope some of the real experts will chime in... but it looks the images I've seen of a proper job.

rd62
01-31-2022, 07:34 PM
Looks like good staking to me too. But I'm also no expert.

OlongJohnson
01-31-2022, 07:37 PM
Lost River posted some Colt stakes over here:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?41583-Colt-staking-photos&p=1021636&viewfull=1#post1021636

MattyD380
01-31-2022, 07:39 PM
Matty - If the barrel has a cage code marking on it, that should tell you for sure. Rosco's cage code is 72CS5. Green Mountain has used two - 5ZX15 and 66GJ0

I'd also like to offer a suggestion for cleaning equipment. I've gone almost exclusively to this bore squeegee system:

https://rogersshootingschool.com/collections/featured/products/bore-squeeg-e%E2%84%A2-cleaning-system

As well as these:

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Avid-Chamber-Boss-Black/dp/B07YL75ZHR

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Avid-223-Chamber-Cleaning/dp/B00IOF6610?th=1

Those things, a couple of toothbrushes and an old tee-shirt and you are good to go.

I generally stick with Slip 200 EWL for lube, but everyone has opinions on that and I certainly have a bunch of different brands on the shelf. https://slip2000.com/pages/about-ewl-extreme-weapons-lubricant

Hmm. Maybe I’m misinterpreting what a cage code actually is. “13929” appears on both the top of the barrel and the upper receiver. I take it that’s not a cage code?

Thanks for tips on cleaning equipment. Those squeegees look promising. I grabbed one of these at Sportsman’s warehouse: 83592

I mean, I’ve always considered myself a… man of vision… 😎

Lex Luthier
01-31-2022, 07:57 PM
Curious to hear your take on it, actually. I guess it looks all right? Seems like there’s a decent amount metal peened into the rivets? But I dunno…

8358983590

That looks much like mine, which came installed in a circa-2017 6960 upper. Colt supposedly has extremely consistent jigs for this procedure.

Here is a link to a CAGE Code lookup website.

https://govcagecodes.com

The one on my barrel and upper receiver are 13629 also, which corresponds with "COLT'S MANUFACTURING COMPANY LLC DBA COLT"

MattyD380
01-31-2022, 09:47 PM
That looks much like mine, which came installed in a circa-2017 6960 upper. Colt supposedly has extremely consistent jigs for this procedure.

Here is a link to a CAGE Code lookup website.

https://govcagecodes.com

The one on my barrel and upper receiver are 13629 also, which corresponds with "COLT'S MANUFACTURING COMPANY LLC DBA COLT"

That’s interesting. Thanks for the link.

So, 13629 is Colt’s CAGE code… does that mean Colt actually manufactured our barrels and upper receivers? Or do sunbcontracted parts all get the Colt code when they’re assembled (by Colt)?

Rosco’s code is in the database too. But unless it’s under the hand guard, I don’t see it on the barrel. Or any other codes.

Again: I don’t really care who made my parts, either way. But it’s kinda fun to nerd out.

M2CattleCo
02-01-2022, 06:01 PM
Colt has been outsourcing for a lot longer than the CR guns have been around.

Colt does gas key staking well. Many don’t. Gas key staking serves no functional purpose and if overdone or done incorrectly it causes the bolts to fail.

I always like it when people who have zero knowledge of what they’re looking at do online reviews.

MandoWookie
02-01-2022, 08:28 PM
Colt has been outsourcing for a lot longer than the CR guns have been around.

Colt does gas key staking well. Many don’t. Gas key staking serves no functional purpose and if overdone or done incorrectly it causes the bolts to fail.

I always like it when people who have zero knowledge of what they’re looking at do online reviews.


If it serves no purpose why is it done? And that is counter to everything I have read over the years from SMEs regarding staking the gas keys.

BWT
02-02-2022, 07:20 AM
If it serves no purpose why is it done? And that is counter to everything I have read over the years from SMEs regarding staking the gas keys.

If that gas key comes loose the gun becomes a bolt action.

Not sure why he said that. It’s a threaded and tightened component that is staked to ensure a permanent mate.

It’s a very modular design, this is an example of something that is being pushed to not be modular.

ASH556
02-02-2022, 08:15 AM
I'm wondering if he's getting at the fact that with proper fasteners and torque (which many don't use) that staking is redundant. Regardless, I'm a belt and suspenders guy when it comes to lifesaving equipment like fighting guns. Proper materials, proper torque, stake to be sure.

In other news, I had my first Colt disappointment recently. Having worked as a professional armorer for an Atlanta, GA area shop for several years, I've seen my fair share of the good, the bad, and the ugly. This experience drove me to Colt whenever and wherever possible due to the consistency in their parts. So back around November I began putting together an upper consisting of a Colt 14.5" SOCOM barrel, BCM upper receiver (I do like their standard M4 upper with the tighter barrel journal), Daniel Defense MFR handguard (OG round version), PRI Gasbuster CH, and topped it off with a Leupold MK 4 3.5-10x40 M3 with a piggyback RMR. Sort of a quasi-Holland/SPR type setup. Anyway, I bought a brand new Colt BCG from Brownells to use in the upper.

I took it to the range to zero and it ran fine excepting one or two failures to feed from an old 20rd mag I've had issues with in the past, so I attributed it to the mag.

A week later I took that rifle on a deer hunt. I had a buck come in range and when I pressed the trigger I got a "click" instead of a "bang." I performed a tap, rack, bump (forward assist) and attempted to fire another round, also met with a "click." At this point I was beyond frustrated. I removed the mag, locked the bolt to the rear, re-inserted the mag, sent the bolt home, and hit the forward assist. At this point the deer had moved out of my line of sight. Before I left, I fired that round into the ground and the rifle appeared to cycle. When I got home I went to clear the rifle and when I pulled the bolt to the rear to extract the round from the chamber, it did not come out. I "slingshotted" the bolt forward and this time the extractor grabbed the round.

A couple things happened at this point:
1. I was so fed up with the entire upper configuration (it honestly was bigger and heavier than I'd hoped) that I just pulled everything apart with a plan to sell it all as individual parts and move on.
2. When I went to disassemble the bolt to clean it, I was unable to remove the cam pin. It would not rotate rearward sufficiently in the slot to clear the gas key. I believe that this is why I got 2 "clicks" instead of "bangs" and also why that last round was unable to be extracted: The cam slot in the carrier being either too short or at least on the short side of the spec prevented the bolt from consistently rotating fully into battery.

I returned the BCG to Brownells as defective and received a full refund, but the experience has made me wary of new "Colts."

stinx
02-03-2022, 04:46 PM
Colt had a recall due to bad hammers in certain model AR'S lastYear. I believe your hammer is one that should be replaced. Check Colts website. I believe hammers marked f1,F2,F3or F4 are affected.

stinx
02-03-2022, 04:48 PM
Per Colt:A. Colt advises you to follow the inspection steps on ColtRepairMSR.com. If the hammer is not marked with F1, F2, F3 or F4 it is not affected by this recall. If the original hammer you removed from your MSR when installing the aftermarket trigger group is marked with F1, F2, F3, or F4, you should discard it and no longer use it.

M2CattleCo
02-03-2022, 11:20 PM
If it serves no purpose why is it done? And that is counter to everything I have read over the years from SMEs regarding staking the gas keys.


One of THE smes that’s written much of the assembly content in the tech manuals for the M4 program has stated in very clear language that the primary purpose of the gas key staking is to visually indicate that the bolts are not meant to be removed as part of routine maintenance.

Same as receiver end plate castle nut staking.

MattyD380
02-04-2022, 01:19 AM
Per Colt:A. Colt advises you to follow the inspection steps on ColtRepairMSR.com. If the hammer is not marked with F1, F2, F3 or F4 it is not affected by this recall. If the original hammer you removed from your MSR when installing the aftermarket trigger group is marked with F1, F2, F3, or F4, you should discard it and no longer use it.

Thanks for the tip. I checked my serial against the range that was supposedly affected before I bought it—it wasn’t in the range. But maybe I missed something.

MattyD380
02-04-2022, 02:02 AM
Well shit. You were right. It's affected. I swear I checked it... maybe I just overlooked it. Or maybe it had the wrong serial on the box.

I did the online form thingy and it sent me a shipping label. Damn--I wanted to shoot the thing this weekend.

In any case, thank you for noticing that.

stinx
02-04-2022, 06:20 AM
Thanks for the tip. I checked my serial against the range that was supposedly affected before I bought it—it wasn’t in the range. But maybe I missed something.

Pull out the hammer and check it’s numbers against the recalled ones.

Gray Ghost
02-04-2022, 09:20 AM
Pull out the hammer and check it’s numbers against the recalled ones.

I learned something today. I have a CR6920 from last year. It is unfired and was purchased as a spare. I just checked it, and the hammer is marked with a "2" on one side with two "S"'s on the other. I guess it is not affected.

MattyD380
02-04-2022, 10:11 AM
Pull out the hammer and check it’s numbers against the recalled ones.

Mine's definitely affected. On the site, they're pretty direct about any F[1-4] marked hammer being subject to the recall. They're sending me a box and label--it was a pretty quick, automatically generated thing via the site. You send in the lower, says they try to turn it around in 2 weeks.

Apparently it's possible the gun can fire a second shot when the hammer falls. Though mine didn't do that in the 100 rounds I put thought it. PITA. Especially since I now have 500 rounds of 5.56 here. But, at least Colt's process seems fairly straightforward and seamless. Hopefully that continues to be the case.

Gray Ghost
02-04-2022, 10:40 AM
Mine's definitely affected. On the site, they're pretty direct about any F[1-4] marked hammer being subject to the recall. They're sending me a box and label--it was a pretty quick, automatically generated thing via the site. You send in the lower, says they try to turn it around in 2 weeks.

Apparently it's possible the gun can fire a second shot when the hammer falls. Though mine didn't do that in the 100 rounds I put thought it. PITA. Especially since I now have 500 rounds of 5.56 here. But, at least Colt's process seems fairly straightforward and seamless. Hopefully that continues to be the case.

If you don't want to deal with the drama and delay, it is extremely easy to just buy another hammer and replace it yourself. You could take the opportunity to drop in a Geissele SSA-E. I have two, and they are awesome.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1003355393?pid=660568

ASH556
02-04-2022, 11:43 AM
One of THE smes that’s written much of the assembly content in the tech manuals for the M4 program has stated in very clear language that the primary purpose of the gas key staking is to visually indicate that the bolts are not meant to be removed as part of routine maintenance.

Same as receiver end plate castle nut staking.

Who's that? Ken Elmore?

OlongJohnson
02-04-2022, 01:18 PM
If you don't want to deal with the drama and delay, it is extremely easy to just buy another hammer and replace it yourself. You could take the opportunity to drop in a Geissele SSA-E. I have two, and they are awesome.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1003355393?pid=660568

Pretty sure I saw those on sale for ~$168 around the holidays. A "normal" sale is $190. Definitely worth waiting for a sale if you're going to go that route.

Also, read Geissele's guidance/recommendations regarding use cases between SSA and SSA-E before making your selection.

MattyD380
02-04-2022, 10:57 PM
I had considered replacing the trigger group. Is Geissele better than CMC? My local Sportsman's Warehouse has CMC triggers in stock:

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/gun-parts-magazines/gun-components/cmc-triggers-competition-match-grade-small-pin-ar-15ar-10-single-stage-curved-rifle-trigger/p/1696039

Theoretically, I could have the thing switched out and GTG tomorrow. That appeals to my impatience. But not to my wallet.

HCM
02-04-2022, 11:05 PM
I had considered replacing the trigger group. Is Geissele better than CMC? My local Sportsman's Warehouse has CMC triggers in stock:

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/gun-parts-magazines/gun-components/cmc-triggers-competition-match-grade-small-pin-ar-15ar-10-single-stage-curved-rifle-trigger/p/1696039

Theoretically, I could have the thing switched out and GTG tomorrow. That appeals to my impatience. But not to my wallet.

Yes Geissele is better.

I am not a big fan of cassette type triggers.

Geissele has a budget version of the SSA trigger called the G2S which is very good. Another option is the Larue MBT trigger.

MattyD380
02-05-2022, 01:55 AM
Yes Geissele is better.

I am not a big fan of cassette type triggers.

Geissele has a budget version of the SSA trigger called the G2S which is very good. Another option is the Larue MBT trigger.

Thanks.

The more I think about it, I might just let Colt do their thing then worry about triggers and other add-builds later. It's not like the repair will cost me anything. I don't mind the heavier trigger--it's supposed to be "mil spec" after all. And 2.5 - 3 lbs sounds kinda light for a gun I don't really intend to use for competition.

All that said, I could definitely see a carry handle with A2 sights in this gun's future. Mainly because I love classic look. And I guess it's easier than picking it up by the hand guard.

HCM
02-05-2022, 10:30 AM
Thanks.

The more I think about it, I might just let Colt do their thing then worry about triggers and other add-builds later. It's not like the repair will cost me anything. I don't mind the heavier trigger--it's supposed to be "mil spec" after all. And 2.5 - 3 lbs sounds kinda light for a gun I don't really intend to use for competition.

All that said, I could definitely see a carry handle with A2 sights in this gun's future. Mainly because I love classic look. And I guess it's easier than picking it up by the hand guard.

2-3lbs would be the SSA E.

The SSA /G2S is 4 1/4 to 4.75 lbs. not super light but very clean.

Chuck Whitlock
02-05-2022, 10:46 AM
Ironically most of the “Colts” In-service with the US military are actually wearing uppers made by DS arms (the FAL people) via the M4A1 upgrade program.

I was unaware of this. I have two DSA uppers. They haven't been run anywhere close to hard, but this makes me feel warmer and fuzzier.




All that said, I could definitely see a carry handle with A2 sights in this gun's future. Mainly because I love classic look. And I guess it's easier than picking it up by the hand guard.

I might have a few in a drawer or box. PM me if you're interested.

MattyD380
02-10-2022, 01:38 PM
Got the box from Colt yesterday. Hope to get to Fedex later today.

Hopefully it'll be quick turnaround.

MattyD380
02-15-2022, 04:33 PM
Update...

So it arrived at Colt yesterday, and Colt shipped it back the same day. Not bad. It should arrive tomorrow. If they did what they were supposed to do, I'd say that's pretty solid service.

Unfortunately, they want a signature. So, we'll see if I can actually intercept the driver.

11B10
02-15-2022, 05:22 PM
Matty - If the barrel has a cage code marking on it, that should tell you for sure. Rosco's cage code is 72CS5. Green Mountain has used two - 5ZX15 and 66GJ0

I'd also like to offer a suggestion for cleaning equipment. I've gone almost exclusively to this bore squeegee system:

https://rogersshootingschool.com/collections/featured/products/bore-squeeg-e%E2%84%A2-cleaning-system

As well as these:

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Avid-Chamber-Boss-Black/dp/B07YL75ZHR

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Avid-223-Chamber-Cleaning/dp/B00IOF6610?th=1

Those things, a couple of toothbrushes and an old tee-shirt and you are good to go.

I generally stick with Slip 200 EWL for lube, but everyone has opinions on that and I certainly have a bunch of different brands on the shelf. https://slip2000.com/pages/about-ewl-extreme-weapons-lubricant




Dan.....here goes the master thread drifter - are you referring to this: Slip 2000 EWL30 (as in: 30 wt.)? I bought and used it on just one AR platform (S&W M&P Sport), but have used it on several handguns. I realize my sample size is miniscule, comparatively speaking, but considering I've blown cubic $$$ on cleaning/lubing supplies, it's the best I've used.

DDTSGM
02-16-2022, 12:36 AM
Dan.....here goes the master thread drifter - are you referring to this: Slip 2000 EWL30 (as in: 30 wt.)? I bought and used it on just one AR platform (S&W M&P Sport), but have used it on several handguns. I realize my sample size is miniscule, comparatively speaking, but considering I've blown cubic $$$ on cleaning/lubing supplies, it's the best I've used.

No just the regular EWL. After reading about EWL 30 I might have to give it a try.

11B10
02-16-2022, 07:54 AM
No just the regular EWL. After reading about EWL 30 I might have to give it a try.



I'll be anxious to hear your opinion.

MattyD380
02-16-2022, 01:46 PM
Saw the FedEx truck down the street... made the intercept (I work from home).

So, they did it right: there's a new hammer in the thing--and this one has a notch in the top-front, like the old LEs (apparently) used to have. That was one thing Small Arms Solutions videos/MAC pointed out was missing on the CRs. Not sure the notch matters one way or another? ...but, figured it was worth mentioning.

Colt also included a nice note and packed/wrapped the thing well. As a customer, I'm satisfied--especially in the, like, 2-hour turnaround time. Literally.

Hopefully will get it to the range later this week or weekend.

theJanitor
02-16-2022, 05:07 PM
I'll be anxious to hear your opinion.

I use whatever slip2000 I manage to buy (EWL, gunlube, etc). In my experience, a good AR is not lube sensitive. I also use whatever bottle is handy for my custom 1911's, as they generally aren't lube-brand sensitive either

MattyD380
02-16-2022, 05:39 PM
I use whatever slip2000 I manage to buy (EWL, gunlube, etc). In my experience, a good AR is not lube sensitive. I also use whatever bottle is handy for my custom 1911's, as they generally aren't lube-brand sensitive either

I just used Hoppe's oil on this AR. I figure the military isn't using anything fancy on their ARs. That said, I'm not opposed to trying something... better.

Beat Trash
02-18-2022, 06:56 AM
No just the regular EWL. After reading about EWL 30 I might have to give it a try.

I’ve been using EWL 30 on AR’s for a few years. It stays put better on my patrol rifle when the gun lives in a vertical mounted rack. Same for guns that live in my safe. Other than that, it performs as well as regular EWL or Slip 2000.

For my pistols, I use Slip 2000. Only because it’s a bit cheaper and I have a bottle about 1/2 full that I don’t want to waste.

DDTSGM
02-18-2022, 08:11 PM
I’ve been using EWL 30 on AR’s for a few years. It stays put better on my patrol rifle when the gun lives in a vertical mounted rack. Same for guns that live in my safe. Other than that, it performs as well as regular EWL or Slip 2000.

For my pistols, I use Slip 2000. Only because it’s a bit cheaper and I have a bottle about 1/2 full that I don’t want to waste.

Thanks.

I've got bunches of the latest and greatest lubes ranging from Brian Enos Slide Glide, Fire Clean, Frog Lube, MiliTec-1, ALG Go-Juice Very Thin, Assorted Cherry Balms, Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil, Lucas CLP, Umbrella Corp Unicorn Lube, Rem Oil and Ballistol.

They all work as far as that goes. I really like the Militec-1, the Lucas products, the Slip products and the Unicorn Lube for rifle use. Right now my plan is to use various brands up until gone, and then stick with the Slip products.

Have some EWL 30 enroute.

MattyD380
02-21-2022, 12:24 AM
No problems. Ran like a top. All Freedom Munitions 5.56 55gr. Shot it slow, shot some double taps, dumped a mag or two. Let some other guys in the lane next to me shoot it. A good time was had by all.

Shot this at 25 yards:

84731

Still getting used to the sight picture (I feel like some kinda bead or dot would help?) and how best to hold the thing. I’m cross-eye dominant too, so, I always have to shoot long guns with my weaker eye. But… I’m happy with that, for the time being.

I didn’t clean it since I shot it 2 weeks ago, but I did throw a few drops of oil on bolt’s sliding surfaces, the cam pin, and a little on the front of gas key (it said to do that in the manual).

I didn’t really notice a difference in the trigger with the new hammer (not that I expected to). If anything, there’s maybe a little less creep? But it could just be wearing in.

In all: I’m happy with the rifle, and, despite the recall annoyance, Colt handled it expediently and seamlessly.