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Sanch
01-23-2022, 03:06 AM
It seems like the original QD female sling cups all were full rotation, and I suspect it was machining limitations and/or cost.

Nowadays it still seems like most are full rotation, yet message boards are full of people, so far 100% of old forum posts I’ve found on various forums, all say they prefer the limited rotation.

I have some magpul stocks on various longguns, all have the full rotation female cups. I have two questions:

Does anyone here prefer a full rotation QD cup?

Is there any aftermarket limited rotation cups that are plug and play into magpul stocks? Magpul has its own system of type 1 and type 2 but both are full rotation.

Oldherkpilot
01-23-2022, 08:47 AM
Following. I dislike full-rotation swivels with the Blue Force Gear slings, would gladly upgrade.

call_me_ski
01-23-2022, 09:14 AM
Limited rotation is the way. Also, the sling mounted on the rear of the receiver is better than on the stock.

19852+
01-23-2022, 10:17 AM
What or why the preference for limited rotation QD? I really dislike having my sling twisted so I prefer full rotation, easier to straighten out the sling.
On another note I recently moved from rear sling attachment at the receiver to the buttstock, right side of stock, I shoot right handed.

UNM1136
01-23-2022, 10:30 AM
My patrol rifle has zip ties to stop swivel rotation on my gun with a Viking Tactics padded sling.

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kwb377
01-23-2022, 11:23 AM
What or why the preference for limited rotation QD? I really dislike having my sling twisted so I prefer full rotation, easier to straighten out the sling.



That full-rotation swivel is the reason the sling is twisted... :)

19852+
01-23-2022, 11:29 AM
That full-rotation swivel is the reason the sling is twisted... :)

Hmm, I guess I just accept the fact that my sling will get twisted as I put it on and move around. So the issue for me is.. getting it straightened out. However, I have and use both so no problem..

Default.mp3
01-23-2022, 04:37 PM
Also, the sling mounted on the rear of the receiver is better than on the stock.Why is that? I've always been taught that sling mount location depends on what you're trying to do and your overall kit, rather than any specific "this is the best way", e.g., is the sling primarily for retention or as a shooting aid, how much kit you have on which can limit range of motion due to excess friction with the sling, how low the gun sits when slung and how that interacts with the gear and how it changes where the muzzle points when slung, etc.

I'll note that many Magpul stocks by design limit the rotation of the QDs by physically blocking the rotation of the QDs, rather than via the sling mount.

call_me_ski
01-23-2022, 04:52 PM
Why is that? I've always been taught that sling mount location depends on what you're trying to do and your overall kit, rather than any specific "this is the best way", e.g., is the sling primarily for retention or as a shooting aid, how much kit you have on which can limit range of motion due to excess friction with the sling, how low the gun sits when slung and how that interacts with the gear and how it changes where the muzzle points when slung, etc.

I'll note that many Magpul stocks by design limit the rotation of the QDs by physically blocking the rotation of the QDs, rather than via the sling mount.

As far as use case, that is true in my experience as well. A hunting rifle is better sling at the extremes ends of the gun to be worn over the shoulder while stalking.

In this case I am referring to an ar15 used as a carbine. I prefer the sling at the rear of the rail in the front and the rear of the receiver at the back. The front to allow unrestricted access to accessories. The rear because it allows for more mobility, easier transition to other shoulders with less length adjustment and I prefer the balance of the gun when sling with no hands. The gun can also be more easier pushed to your back.

littlejerry
01-23-2022, 09:35 PM
As far as use case, that is true in my experience as well. A hunting rifle is better sling at the extremes ends of the gun to be worn over the shoulder while stalking.

In this case I am referring to an ar15 used as a carbine. I prefer the sling at the rear of the rail in the front and the rear of the receiver at the back. The front to allow unrestricted access to accessories. The rear because it allows for more mobility, easier transition to other shoulders with less length adjustment and I [prefer the balance of the gun when sling with no hands. The gun can also be more easier pushed to your back.

And then when it's on your back, it'll bouce all over the f'ing place if you're moving.

Mounting the sling as close to the muzzle and butt plate is the most stable.

Like default said, it depends on what your goal is.