Federal AE 147 SS Flat nose in G34

[Shawn.L]

Im looking for something more consistent and accurate for my gamer loads in my G34

Anyone know if the G34 will feed the Fed AE 147 flat nosed ammo reliably before I buy several thousand rounds ?

Anyone shoot this ammo first hand ? AE9FP ? FPS ? I have a friend who said he was shooting some and didnt realize it was Sub Sonic.
You should be able to tell........

[DocGKR]

Why should you be able to tell?

All my 9 mm Glocks feed AE9FP--it the only 9 mm I have shot this year; in fact, I've watched millions of rounds of it go down range over the past several years...

As noted in another thread, here are two 10 rd 25 yd groups fired using AE9FP from two different pistols:

G19:
http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=7957&filename=G19%20H1%2025%20yd.jpg

M&P9
http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=7958&filename=M&P9%20RMR%2025%20yd.jpg

[Shawn.L]

Why should you be able to tell?



I cant speak for a vast array of ammo, but when Im shooting 147 sub sonic I get locally not only can you hear the difference but you can feel how much softer it shoots. The goal here for a minor power game load is only to make minor power factor and be as soft shooting as possible as far as power go. The difference between a 124 going 1150 FPS and a 147 going 935 is significant. Which is why I wanted to know what FPS this ammo is at.

[JHC]

+1 Doc.

I just tried some of this ammo this weekend and while I only got out to 15 yards for a few rounds (80 total) as I was primarily coaching my younger son's shooting. But what I saw - I liked big time. I'm gonna have to test this more seriously out to 25 and 50 yards.

[DocGKR]

"The difference between a 124 going 1150 FPS and a 147 going 935 is significant."

Significant in what respect? Trajectory? Intermediate barrier capability? Terminal performance? Weapon function?

[Shawn.L]

Significant in what respect? Trajectory? Intermediate barrier capability? Terminal performance? Weapon function?

In muzzle flip and felt recoil.

Not trying to be rude here, but really you dont feel the difference shooting light loads ? You can go even lighter that 935 with a 147 grain and still make minor pf .

[RobertB]

It's a big difference in felt recoil. I'd had several magazines loaded to 10 for IDPA with 147s, and decided to shoot up some 115s (loading them on top) while doing some drills where I wasn't focusing on the pistol as much. Oh man, you could tell when the 115s stopped and the 147s started.

[Chuck Haggard]

I must be numb, I can't tell the difference in standard velocity 115-147gr ammo from recoil. +P I can tell the difference, but it's slight.

[DocGKR]

Nope, like tpd223 I can't tell any significant difference between the different standard pressure 9 mm loads we've used--115 gr, 124 gr, 147 gr.

[JHC]

Nope, like tpd223 I can't tell any significant difference between the different standard pressure 9 mm loads we've used--115 gr, 124 gr, 147 gr.

Maybe a skosh in slow fire but running a drill I can't tell the diff either.

[Al T.]

I tried a box of 147s and noted a "smoother" recoil (G19), but it wasn't enough for me to switch ammo. I do intend to grab a box and try it in my Shield.

[Shawn.L]

Nope, like tpd223 I can't tell any significant difference between the different standard pressure 9 mm loads we've used--115 gr, 124 gr, 147 gr.

But Im not talking about or referring to standard pressure loads. I was asking about 147 grain Subsonic ammo. Now, I havent shot the AE in question (why I started this thread to ask about it) but the 147's Im shooting at 930 FPS are noticeably different than say 124 Grain AE I have chrono'd near 1200 FPS. The AE I asked about is slightly hotter listed at 960 , but I cant imagine thats much different.

[JV_]

But Im not talking about or referring to standard pressure loads. I was asking about 147 grain Subsonic ammo.Isn't almost all 9mm 147 (NOT +P) ammo subsonic?

Even at 34,000 PSI, with a powder like Longshot, you're only 1000 fps.

[Shawn.L]

Isn't almost all 9mm 147 (NOT +P) ammo subsonic?

Even at 34,000 PSI, with a powder like Longshot, you're only 1000 fps.

not a reloader or ammo guy, dont know. The only 147's I have shot where labeled as SS , and shot for games. Otherwise I normally am shooting 115 or 124 grain ammo's.

[JV_]

We've never seen supersonic 9mm 147 gr standard pressure.

[Chuck Haggard]

All standard 147gr 9mm ammo is in fact sub-sonic.

[guymontag]

I've never seen supersonic 147 in 9MM.

I've shot American Eagle/Federal 147 in my G-17, I don't see why it would not work in a G-34.

I've shot more factory ammunition (115&124&147) through my Walther, and I've noticed a slight difference in the recoil characteristics regarding bullet weight. I know others may feel more or less of a difference.

If gamers were to game, I'd drop the cash on AAA 147.

[cclaxton]

I practice with 115 factory reloads and shoot 147 AE flat nose or jack ross 147 reloads at matches. I do notice a recoil diff in my CZ75. I have been very pleased with AE 147FN. I like to think that the 115's help me train with stronger recoil thus making my match performance better. Fyi check www.targetsportsusa.com for great case pricing with free shipping.
CC

[DocGKR]

"But Im not talking about or referring to standard pressure loads. I was asking about 147 grain Subsonic ammo."

ShawnL: as noted, all standard pressure 9 mm 147 gr ammunition is in fact subsonic; for that matter all standard pressure 230 gr .45 ACP ammo is subsonic, as is all .40 S&W 180 gr ammo...

[Shawn.L]

A friend of mine had some of this for me to try. As hard as I find it to believe that the extra 50 fps or so on this over the other ammo Ive been running makes a difference it is clearly a hotter load, and you guys are right, I can hardly tell the difference between it and other full power ammo's.