Anti carjacking course (s)?

[Polecat]

Gang, can any recommend some vetted anti carjacking, vehicle courses? I am in Georgia, open to travel. I have done searches, but seek insight and recommendations.


Thanks,
Dave

[fatdog]

Southnarc's VCAST class is what you seek.

[David S.]

Randy Cain (https://www.firearmstraininghub.com/cumberland-tactics/) has a Street & Vehicle Tactics class in Feb. Lakeland, FL. Tactical Handgun is a prereq.

I believe that ECQC is a prereq for VCAST.

[MVS]

It is good to ask like you are doing. You should be picky. I took a Vehicle tactics class from a Delta guy a number of years ago, and while it was a great class, there was almost nothing about it relevant to everyday people going about there normal lives trying to evade or overcome violence.

[Polecat]

Took ECQC a long while back, I owe Southnarc for opening my eyes! I was a a whitebelt BJJ and that served me very well in the fray. Kinda reevaluated my whole mindset. Invaluable. I will scope out it out thanks for the recommendation.

Dave

[Moylan]

I hope this thread gets more replies. I am looking for a good vehicle course. VCAST is the top of my list, but it was offered one time last year, in someplace like Utah or something, and that's just not going to work for me. Nor can I host nearer to me in NC. So...

I know of Centrifuge's VCQB, but I don't know to what extent that's really civilian-focused. Other one-day vehicle classes on my radar screen:

Pat Goodale
John Murphy
TDI Ohio
Jason Kelly
(And now Randy Cain, thanks to David S, though Florida is also too far for me)

At present, I am tentatively planning to hit TDI this summer, if finances, timelines and other such things allow it. Very eager to hear thoughts about these or other classes from alumni!

[Polecat]

So, i live down in the ATL. Plenty of carjackings to go around. Daughters instructor dropped husband off at airport, got gas, thugs drove off her car, phone, house keys, ID, address! Scary.

I had just sold a old .30-30 trapper got the cash walked back to car, as I was getting in, olds 98 beat up with curb feelers pulled in slow behind, kid got out, as he did pulled his hoodie over head, put hand in his pocket, two others watched from his car. I reached around, looked him dead in the face and said “ you need to just get the fuck back in and keep rollin,” He raised his hands, said man it’s cool. Crazy!

[43Under]

I've taken VCQB with Will Petty and Street & Vehicle with Mike Pannone (and to see these guys get into it with each other over the slightest minutiae on social media is.......annoying).

Of those two, the guy I would go to for an anti-carjacking class would be.......drumroll....

John Murphy of FPF Training, as I have also done his Vehicle Environment Skills course. See my review here:

https://civiliangunfighter.wordpress.com/2016/10/18/aar-fpf-training-john-murphy-concealed-carry-vehicle-environment-skills-culpeper-va-october-15-2016/

It was back in 2016, but John is ALWAYS tweaking his curricula, so I'm sure it's even better now. I think he tends to only offer this at his home range in VA, but I'm sure if someone had a good venue and a car or two, he could do it on the road.

I'm not saying his class is the best of the three I've mentioned, but for the OP's purpose, it is. It the only one of the three where we had a functional car and when a role player walked up, we just got to drive away! Imagine that! Murphy's classes are always grounded in the reality of a civilian going about his or her day, and will teach you more than just shooting through windshields. Things such as how to maneuver at a gas station, how to set up your gun/holster/seatbelt for optimum, rapid use, etc. Really good class with a lot of info packed into one day. Somewhere on his Facebook page there may still be a video of me taking on one of his mobile targets while pumping gas into "my" car.

[GyroF-16]

That sounds like a great course. Unfortunately, FPF’S calendar only currently shows several opportunities for Street Encounters Skills and Tactics classes.
I’d probably be willing to travel to Virginia for such a vehicle oriented self-defense class..


I've taken VCQB with Will Petty and Street & Vehicle with Mike Pannone (and to see these guys get into it with each other over the slightest minutiae on social media is.......annoying).

Of those two, the guy I would go to for an anti-carjacking class would be.......drumroll....

John Murphy of FPF Training, as I have also done his Vehicle Environment Skills course. See my review here:

https://civiliangunfighter.wordpress.com/2016/10/18/aar-fpf-training-john-murphy-concealed-carry-vehicle-environment-skills-culpeper-va-october-15-2016/

It was back in 2016, but John is ALWAYS tweaking his curricula, so I'm sure it's even better now. I think he tends to only offer this at his home range in VA, but I'm sure if someone had a good venue and a car or two, he could do it on the road.

I'm not saying his class is the best of the three I've mentioned, but for the OP's purpose, it is. It the only one of the three where we had a functional car and when a role player walked up, we just got to drive away! Imagine that! Murphy's classes are always grounded in the reality of a civilian going about his or her day, and will teach you more than just shooting through windshields. Things such as how to maneuver at a gas station, how to set up your gun/holster/seatbelt for optimum, rapid use, etc. Really good class with a lot of info packed into one day. Somewhere on his Facebook page there may still be a video of me taking on one of his mobile targets while pumping gas into "my" car.

[nycnoob]

I take driving classes regularly from VDI


https://vehicledynamics.com/


They have classes for professional security drivers as well and are quite plugged into the security driver
profession (both Civilian and some Military issues). I really enjoy their driving classes, I previously took
their fighting in vehicles class (in cooperation with a martial arts expert from Georiga) and did not like it.
They just started advertising a new class. The protection classes are about "Awareness" before problems
start but are not practical for Individuals they are about how to protect executives/celebrities without
using weapons or violence.

The have a new class coming with Alan Baker: Vehicle Centric Defensive Tactics (VCDT) Program
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[Polecat]

Thanks all! Lots of good stuff to chew on, keep em coming. Don’t be shy about posting helpful things you guys do have experienced etc. Even little things I guess like keeping your ignition key separate from your main keys etc. just shocked about how much of this goes on. About 3 mos ago a mom and her little daughter pulled into her driveway and guy in truck pulled in behind jumped out armed and took her purse! That was in decent area, about 3 blocks away! Freaked my wife out.

[John Murphy]

I moved the presentation portion of VES onto YouTube.

I am looking at offering ONE course in Culpeper in October. More to follow!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZId64sFGPY

[Lex Luthier]

I moved the presentation portion of VES onto YouTube.

I am looking at offering ONE course in Culpeper in October. More to follow!




Thanks so much for posting this video, John Murphy.

[Polecat]

Wow, thank you for that John!