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DocGKR
08-20-2012, 10:15 AM
Please read the rules (http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?1837-Drill-of-the-Week) before participating in this thread.

Week 41: Caleb IDPA 150 rd Practice Session
results may be posted until 11:59pm EDT on Monday 27-August-2012.

Range: 5, 7, and 15 yds
Target: IDPA target w/3x5 card in head zone or PT FAST target (http://pistol-training.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/fast-target.pdf printed on legal size paper)
Start position: concealed
Rounds fired: 150

Here is a video with Caleb Giddings demonstrating the practice session: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzJrdATG9-o.

1.) FAST (2 shots to 3x5 card, reload, then 4 shots to 8" circle) @ 7 yds x 1 (6 rds); see: http://pistol-training.com/fastest

2.) 2 shots to 3x5 card @ 7 yds x 10 (20 rds)

3.) 3 shot Mozambique (2 shots to 8" circle then 1 shot to 6" head box) @ 7 yds x 10 (30 rds)

4.) 1R2 (1 shot to 6" head box, reload, 2 shots to 8" circle) @ 7 yds x 10 (30 rds)

5.) 4 shots on 8” circle @ 15 yds x 10 (40 rds)

6.) 6 shot Bill Drill on 8” circle @ 5 yds x 2 (12 rds)

7.) FAST (2 shots to 3x5 card, reload, then 4 shots to 8" circle) @ 7 yds x 2 (12 rds)


Please report the following when responding to this thread:

Start position (pistol, holster type, concealment)
For each segment of the test, report the best time to complete and number of hits.


Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

ToddG
08-20-2012, 10:31 AM
Please report the following when responding to this thread:

Start position (pistol, holster type, concealment)
For each segment of the test, report the best time to complete and number of hits.
One good joke making fun of Caleb for being short.

fixed it

jetfire
08-20-2012, 11:41 AM
You know, they almost didn't let me in the Coast Guard because of my height? The old rules stated that you had to be at least six feet tall so if your boat sank you could walk back to shore without getting your head wet.

POW

GForceLizard
08-20-2012, 01:12 PM
Why is string #5 4 shots? What does shooting 4 rounds teach me?

"5.) 4 shots on 8” circle @ 15 yds x 10 (40 rds)"

jetfire
08-20-2012, 01:50 PM
I built the drill to deal with IDPA specifically - you'll see a lot of IDPA stages that start with "shoot 2-6 rounds while retreating at T1". So I split the difference between 2 and 6 and went with 4.

BaiHu
08-20-2012, 02:58 PM
I'm leaving for vacation shortly, so I won't be able to participate in the drill, but....being a short guy myself, I think I might have a zinger.

What does Caleb say when he sees a Geico poster/ad/commercial??


http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx38/djdemarco/Pistol%20Forum/godzillacaption.jpg



Sorry Caleb, but I just got ragged on for the last 2 days by Todd, and this was an easy lay-up. Certainly easier than my FAST :mad:

ToddG
08-21-2012, 07:40 AM
Why is string #5 4 shots? What does shooting 4 rounds teach me?

It won't teach you anything, except when you make a mistake a realize it. But it will give you practice at:


Pressing the trigger properly at speed.
Seeing the sight lift in recoil.
Resetting in recoil.
Tracking the sight back into the notch for fast follow-up shots.
Verifying your grip will stay steady through multiple shots.


Could you do that with a 6-shot Bill Drill, instead? Absolutely. You'd get in fewer draws, though. Four shots instead of six means 50% more draw practice. And, it seems pretty clear Caleb was trying to make this exactly 150rd. Ten reps of 4 fit into that nicely.

edited to add mandatory short joke: Or maybe Caleb just can't reach the sixth round.

halodog
08-22-2012, 06:13 PM
Was able to run Caleb's drill today during my practice session in Hamilton, OH. Warmed up with shooting some DEA Dots @ 3, 5 & 7 yds from holster and then set up a PT Target (used the 3x5 as the 6" head box). Here are my best times and first shot times for each stage. I only recorded a best time when I had 100% hits. I'm running a Glock 19 (Gen3) w/ Leupold DeltaPoint optic, kydex holster under a Woolrich tactical vest.
1.) 8.92 (+2sec for 3x5 miss)/2.14
2.) 2.16/1.79
3.) 2.73/1.95
4.) 5.55/2.38
5.) 4.15/2.47
6.) 3.06/1.84
7.) 6.20 (no misses)/2.14

Comments: It's a lot of shooting. I liked the 15 yd #5 - found it to be a good way to concentrate on a smooth draw. I closed out my session with 10 shots strong hand and 10 shots weak hand at the 2" circles from 5 yds and then called it a day. I don't have too many 200 round range sessions, so may do this drill once a month.

pdh
08-23-2012, 02:38 AM
Saw this drill a while back on IDPA.tv

Shot it yesterday at my local club.

Im using a Glock 19 gen 3 with Heinie sights. Custom kydex hoster made by myself, CR Speed IDPA belt, Fobus double mag pouch and a normal cotton fishing vest

1.) 5.89
2.) 2.18
3.) 2.28
4.) 3.69
5.) 2.57
6.) 2.43
7.) 4.54

These are the best times with no misses.

Things i learnt:
- Training with a partner would make it easier to recored timesm patch etc and also give a competitive edge.
- Some weak hand and strong hand only would be good to add before

A good fun drill though. Took about an hour from start to finish.

DocGKR
08-24-2012, 12:22 AM
G19 w/H1 carried AIWB in a Fricke Seraphim from under a raw silk Hawaiian shirt.

Best clean score for each section of drill:

1. 6.16s
2. 1.99s
3. 1.90s
4. 3.97s
5. 2.58s
6. 2.43s
7. 5.56s

Note, don't do drills in raw silk shirts, as they tend to catch on things and rip...

BN
08-24-2012, 03:40 PM
G-17 Gen 3, Comp-Tac paddle holster, 511 vest. I set up several IDPA targets with the 3x5 drawn in with a template and marker.

1: 6.57 clean
2: 2.59 "
3: 2.16 "
4: 4.46 "
5: 3.73 "
6: 2.63 "
7: 6.14 clean

No short joke. I'm a little vertically challenged myself. :)

I shot this cold. Today was the first time I've shot a handgun in 2 or 3 weeks.

Since this is an IDPA drill, I also scored it Limited Vickers. If the target was the 3x5 card, I scored a miss as down 5 with 2.5 seconds added to my score. If the target was the IDPA target, I scored it points down rather than a miss if I was outside the 8 inch circle. My final score with penalties was 178.02.

I enjoyed this drill. I'll be using it more. :)

Bill

ToddG
08-24-2012, 04:09 PM
Bill -- Neat approach to scoring it! I wish I'd recorded all my times, now.

Shot this cold today. As others did, I used the 3x5 card instead of a 6" head (since my target doesn't have a 6" head box).

1: 5.06, clean
2: best was 1.81 clean; scored 18 out of 20 hits
3: best was 1.78 clean (shot a 1.76 but dropped the head); 20/20 body and 7/10 head
4: best was 3.80 clean; 19/20 body and 8/10 head
5: best was 2.43 clean (shot a 2.33 but dropped two); 34/40 hits... on one run I apparently went blind because I missed all four shots high
6: best was 2.03 clean; 12/12
7: 5.04 clean followed by 4.43 clean (my best 1911 FAST yet... reload was still a 2.03)

obligatory joke: It's funny to see Caleb get carded when he tries to buy alcohol at a restaurant, but it's hysterical when they ask if he needs a kid's menu.

cutter
08-25-2012, 12:13 PM
Hk P30 LEM (TGS), RCS OWB holster, no concealment.

1. 11.46 3 hits 8" circle
2. 5.01 clean
3. 4.0 clean
4. 7.29 clean
5. 5.56 clean
6. 4.83 clean
7. 10.87 clean

Haven't done much draws on a timer this year and it showed. Great progression to the drills. I could see the improvement by the end.

Corey
08-26-2012, 09:33 PM
M&P9 Pro, Blade Tech holster under open front concealment.

1. 7.56 clean
2. 3.44 clean
3. 3.42 -1 on box (fastest clean was 3.77)
4. 5.09 clean
5. 4.30 clean
6. 3.28 clean
7. 7.33 (6.33 with one miss on the 8" circle)

Can't think of a good short joke, I guess I just find them beneath me:p.

Mr_White
08-27-2012, 11:18 AM
Since this was many rounds and characterized as a practice session, I worked on progressing from a more certain pace to a pushing pace on several of the various drills. Crashed and burned a couple times to be sure.

Gen3 G34 concealed in a Keeper under a t-shirt.

1: 4.72 clean
2: 1.48 clean, 18/20 total hits
3: 1.27 clean, 7/10 head hits, 16/20 body hits
4: 2.88 clean, 8/10 head hits, 17/20 body hits
5: 2.15 clean, 26/40 total hits – really broke down on this one while pushing the pace
6: 2.07 clean, 1.84 clean
7: 4.47 clean, 3.70 –1 H

AJZ
08-27-2012, 05:44 PM
Gun: M&P FS 9
Holster: Ludus Magnus MMA carried AIWB under a T-shirt
Location: Indoor Range

All "Head" shots were shot on a 3x5 card as well.

Stage 1: 5.50 (-1h) (1.73, .55, 2.47, .29, .23, .23)

Stage 2: 2.06 (16/20)

Stage 3: 2.41 (26/30)

Stage 4: 4.70 (28/30)
Note: Included draw stroke in this stage though it was not called for.

Stage 5: 4.63 (35/40)

Stage 6: 2.87 (12/12)

Stage 7: 5.66 Clean (1.84, .38, 2.87, .22, .18, .17)
5.43 Clean (1.80, .39, 2.66, .21, .18, .19)
Note: Slide failed to lock on both runs. Even with that, reloads are still my downfall.

Joke: The key to writing a good joke about Caleb is remembering to keep it short.;)
Sorry bro, if it makes you feel better, I'm probably shorter than you, lol.