elisavaet
12-20-2021, 03:56 PM
I searched and found two posts regarding Staccato. One was primarily LEO oriented, and the other seemed to refer to pistols a few years back. I thought I'd post this based on the current Staccato and my focus as a civilian, older woman, focused solely on concealed carry and personal defense.
I bought a Staccato C2 DPO on Sat. It has the "tactical" sights, which just means they are suppressor height so they'll be visible through an optic about a 1/3 of the way up on the window.
I ran apx 250 rounds through it Sat and another apx 250 on Sun. PMC Bronze 115g probably 300 of the total, 124g Gold Dot +P perhaps 100, and the last 100 147g Critical Defense and (hmm, some other defense round I can't remember!). I DID lube the barrel at the bull, hood, and contact slide rails as recommended by Staccato prior to shooting Sat. I field stripped and cleaned and lubed the pistol prior to shooting Sun as I would any other 1911 lock work pistol.
I had zero malfunctions. No failures to go into battery. No stovepipes. Nothing. It just ran like a top the whole time.
I am pretty sure it's the most accurate (non-single shot) handgun I've ever fired, and I've had a couple of tuned pistols. I'll need a month or so to get out into the desert and try some longer range stuff... but it might just be the most accurate handgun I've ever fired, period. This thing (for me) defines what the 1911 lock work pistols are supposed to offer.
I have pretty much quit shooting my full sized 1911A1 .45ACP pistols. At 62 they're starting to feel like a sledgehammer in my hand and the recoil is a bit much. Perhaps part of that is the frustration with lack of what I want in accuracy. The 1911A1 in .45ACP was the first pistol I ever fired. I started shooting around seven or eight, but when I was 19 in the USMCR I got to fire a 1911A1 in a familiarization fire course and fell in love and probably ninety five percent of what I've fired since then was pistols.
I've tried a number of pistols over the past few years since I gave almost all of my guns to my kids at the start of the pandemic. I figured I had the "opportunity" to rebuild my armory and it has been a total bitch! :) I'd buy a new gun and it would not run or the quality is crap or I couldn't hit a barn door with it. The only gun I "trust" is my Sig P225 that I had tuned by The Sig Armorer. That's what I've been carrying, but there's no way to mount an optic or light (reasonably), and I want both in my carry and home defense guns.
Sat I said "screw it". I packed up four guns and took them to a friend that has an FFL. The guns are "fine" for five hundred dollar (or so) production guns. We made a deal we were both happy with, then I went to Ventura Munitions and bought the C2.
It'll take me three to five weeks to get kydex (probably LAS Concealment) but it will probably conceal about as well as my P225.
On Sun I was out in the desert and saw what looked like a propane tank about a hundred yards up the slope from where I was shooting. I try to carry out more than I bring in, but there's always junk out there to shoot at. I was hitting it two to three times out of five offhand once I figured out where the sights were out with the ammo I was shooting. I paced it off after I packed up at an estimated one hundred ten to twenty yards. It was a propane tank about twelve inches in diameter and eighteen inches in length. That's not great shooting, but it's far better than I've been able to do since I started shooting again in my fifties.
I used to pretty easily shoot milk jugs at a hundred yards with my Super Blackhawk in my thirties and shot out to three hundred yards with friends at IHMSA matches a few times.
Most important, the C2 was accurate enough that I could call my shots and correct my grip, trigger pull etc. I've had a LOT of trouble figuring out where my problems were since I started shooting again. I shot a P365XL with an optic and that helped a lot, but it still didn't have the accuracy for hundred yard plus shots and I couldn't get comfortable carrying a striker fired pistol appendix.
The accuracy and shoot ability of the C2 took the pistol out of the "Why am I missing?" equation and let's me work on me. I can't wait to get an RMR on it and work on it.
I know I could have had three Glocks for the price of the Staccato, but then I'd have three guns I still couldn't hit with and want to point at the sky when I press it out (due to grip angle).
I was VERY CONCERNED that the Staccato would not run. I've seen SO many reviews of pistols on StupidTube where the pistols were "perfect", with "zero malfunctions" and "amazing accuracy", only to get one in my hand that won't run for me and won't hit a milk jug at twenty five yards. Clearly the StupidTube shills are being sent tuned guns or the manufacturer was taking LOTS of care during the first months when all the reviews would happen, then slacked off after the hype set in. This was not the case with the C2. I just bought one off the shelf several years after it hit and it runs like a top.
I picked up a TLR-1 HL Sun morning and shot with it mounted Sun. There was a perceptible difference in recoil which you'd expect with a few ounces hung out front.
I know the reliability reputation from STI, particularly with mags, is still an issue out there. A few of the gun tubers that I actually trust such as Honest Outlaw, Hilton Yam with 108performance, and Roger Barrera with QVOTactical have spoken highly of the pistol, but I was concerned they were shooting pistols that were not off the shelf. My experience so far is that the pistols reliability is better than any auto pistol I've ever had. Yes, this is only after five hundred rounds and a few sessions, and no, I didn't toss it on the ground or step on the mags, but I've had (I think it's up to) six brand new handguns in the past two years and not a one of them would run this well, and I couldn't shoot ANY of them as accurately as this pistol. Also, I always have carry mags that I've tested for reliability separate from training mags that I'm going to drop free, and I keep my guns clean and lubed.
If you've never shot a Staccato and you get a chance I'd recommend it. Certainly not for everyone, but I've always loved shooting pistols and have been very disappointed in not being able to shoot well since I started back up five or eight years ago. If you've never handled one and get a chance, pick it up and run the slide. It is simply amazing.
Peace,
Kate
I bought a Staccato C2 DPO on Sat. It has the "tactical" sights, which just means they are suppressor height so they'll be visible through an optic about a 1/3 of the way up on the window.
I ran apx 250 rounds through it Sat and another apx 250 on Sun. PMC Bronze 115g probably 300 of the total, 124g Gold Dot +P perhaps 100, and the last 100 147g Critical Defense and (hmm, some other defense round I can't remember!). I DID lube the barrel at the bull, hood, and contact slide rails as recommended by Staccato prior to shooting Sat. I field stripped and cleaned and lubed the pistol prior to shooting Sun as I would any other 1911 lock work pistol.
I had zero malfunctions. No failures to go into battery. No stovepipes. Nothing. It just ran like a top the whole time.
I am pretty sure it's the most accurate (non-single shot) handgun I've ever fired, and I've had a couple of tuned pistols. I'll need a month or so to get out into the desert and try some longer range stuff... but it might just be the most accurate handgun I've ever fired, period. This thing (for me) defines what the 1911 lock work pistols are supposed to offer.
I have pretty much quit shooting my full sized 1911A1 .45ACP pistols. At 62 they're starting to feel like a sledgehammer in my hand and the recoil is a bit much. Perhaps part of that is the frustration with lack of what I want in accuracy. The 1911A1 in .45ACP was the first pistol I ever fired. I started shooting around seven or eight, but when I was 19 in the USMCR I got to fire a 1911A1 in a familiarization fire course and fell in love and probably ninety five percent of what I've fired since then was pistols.
I've tried a number of pistols over the past few years since I gave almost all of my guns to my kids at the start of the pandemic. I figured I had the "opportunity" to rebuild my armory and it has been a total bitch! :) I'd buy a new gun and it would not run or the quality is crap or I couldn't hit a barn door with it. The only gun I "trust" is my Sig P225 that I had tuned by The Sig Armorer. That's what I've been carrying, but there's no way to mount an optic or light (reasonably), and I want both in my carry and home defense guns.
Sat I said "screw it". I packed up four guns and took them to a friend that has an FFL. The guns are "fine" for five hundred dollar (or so) production guns. We made a deal we were both happy with, then I went to Ventura Munitions and bought the C2.
It'll take me three to five weeks to get kydex (probably LAS Concealment) but it will probably conceal about as well as my P225.
On Sun I was out in the desert and saw what looked like a propane tank about a hundred yards up the slope from where I was shooting. I try to carry out more than I bring in, but there's always junk out there to shoot at. I was hitting it two to three times out of five offhand once I figured out where the sights were out with the ammo I was shooting. I paced it off after I packed up at an estimated one hundred ten to twenty yards. It was a propane tank about twelve inches in diameter and eighteen inches in length. That's not great shooting, but it's far better than I've been able to do since I started shooting again in my fifties.
I used to pretty easily shoot milk jugs at a hundred yards with my Super Blackhawk in my thirties and shot out to three hundred yards with friends at IHMSA matches a few times.
Most important, the C2 was accurate enough that I could call my shots and correct my grip, trigger pull etc. I've had a LOT of trouble figuring out where my problems were since I started shooting again. I shot a P365XL with an optic and that helped a lot, but it still didn't have the accuracy for hundred yard plus shots and I couldn't get comfortable carrying a striker fired pistol appendix.
The accuracy and shoot ability of the C2 took the pistol out of the "Why am I missing?" equation and let's me work on me. I can't wait to get an RMR on it and work on it.
I know I could have had three Glocks for the price of the Staccato, but then I'd have three guns I still couldn't hit with and want to point at the sky when I press it out (due to grip angle).
I was VERY CONCERNED that the Staccato would not run. I've seen SO many reviews of pistols on StupidTube where the pistols were "perfect", with "zero malfunctions" and "amazing accuracy", only to get one in my hand that won't run for me and won't hit a milk jug at twenty five yards. Clearly the StupidTube shills are being sent tuned guns or the manufacturer was taking LOTS of care during the first months when all the reviews would happen, then slacked off after the hype set in. This was not the case with the C2. I just bought one off the shelf several years after it hit and it runs like a top.
I picked up a TLR-1 HL Sun morning and shot with it mounted Sun. There was a perceptible difference in recoil which you'd expect with a few ounces hung out front.
I know the reliability reputation from STI, particularly with mags, is still an issue out there. A few of the gun tubers that I actually trust such as Honest Outlaw, Hilton Yam with 108performance, and Roger Barrera with QVOTactical have spoken highly of the pistol, but I was concerned they were shooting pistols that were not off the shelf. My experience so far is that the pistols reliability is better than any auto pistol I've ever had. Yes, this is only after five hundred rounds and a few sessions, and no, I didn't toss it on the ground or step on the mags, but I've had (I think it's up to) six brand new handguns in the past two years and not a one of them would run this well, and I couldn't shoot ANY of them as accurately as this pistol. Also, I always have carry mags that I've tested for reliability separate from training mags that I'm going to drop free, and I keep my guns clean and lubed.
If you've never shot a Staccato and you get a chance I'd recommend it. Certainly not for everyone, but I've always loved shooting pistols and have been very disappointed in not being able to shoot well since I started back up five or eight years ago. If you've never handled one and get a chance, pick it up and run the slide. It is simply amazing.
Peace,
Kate