Your favorite PCC competition optic?

[fatdog]

2021 and my new knee marked my return to USPSA after ten years. But when I left the sport, PCC did not yet exist. I am dipping my toe with a 9mm PSA rifle fitted with a bunch of aftermarket parts and the Timney trigger group, but the part that is not settled for me yet is the optic.

For a 5.56 AR, I am an Aimpoint Pro/M4/M2/Comp XD red dot user with a 50 yard zero for almost 20 years, so a single red dot of some sort, is what I will run with, no complex reticles in my future to retrain my brain on.

However after just throwing one of the aimpoints on, having that high offset mount and zeroing at various distances then remembering the holdovers has been difficult in this context. So for this sport having something closer to the bore axis with a closer distance zero, e.g. 20 yards and driving the dot like I would a CO or Open gun is where I am headed.

Just curious what PCC competitors here are running on their 9mm AR type or Sig PCC platforms and how it is working out for you, how you are zeroing, what size dot. Heard lots of opinions from the people at the clubs I frequent, including a pair of GM's, that seem to be all over the place on this subject.

There is also this huge span in the price range of these lower bore axis sight options from $150 to $600 and the subject of what is too low to get a decent cheek weld and still see the dot seems to be a factor. What mount system is stable and does not have too many layers on the gun to potentially loosen, etc. etc.

[rob_s]

I am no expert. I am just barely scratching the surface of getting back into competition shooting after nearly a decade off, and using PCC as an easy route back in.

I am using one of these
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-Holosun-HS512C/dp/B07VQYHB7J

and I'm finding issues with the brightness. I changed out the battery and am storing it with it manually shut off for now (I think it's supposed to have an auto-shut-off?) to see if that helps.

[GJM]

I am no expert. I am just barely scratching the surface of getting back into competition shooting after nearly a decade off, and using PCC as an easy route back in.

I am using one of these
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-Holosun-HS512C/dp/B07VQYHB7J

and I'm finding issues with the brightness. I changed out the battery and am storing it with it manually shut off for now (I think it's supposed to have an auto-shut-off?) to see if that helps.

What problem are you having, and do you have it in auto or manual mode?

I have been using three different PCC optics — Holosun 512C, Holosun AEMS and a Sig Romeo 3 XL. Prefer the AEMS, if I had to pick one.

[rob_s]

I am using one of these
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-Holosun-HS512C/dp/B07VQYHB7J

and I'm finding issues with the brightness.


What problem are you having,
uuuuh, it's not bright enough? ;)


and do you have it in auto or manual mode?
I have no idea. I felt like it was in "auto" when I put it awa0y and after the last coon-encounter, but now that I've smashed on the buttons like a monkey trying to get it bright enough to see, I could very well have it in spaceship mode at this point! :p

[GJM]

uuuuh, it's not bright enough? ;)


I have no idea. I felt like it was in "auto" when I put it awa0y and after the last coon-encounter, but now that I've smashed on the buttons like a monkey trying to get it bright enough to see, I could very well have it in spaceship mode at this point! :p

If you hold the + button for more than 3 seconds, it will toggle between auto and manual. Try manual, and control the intensity manually.

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[rob_s]

Thanks GJM

On the broader topic of the OP, is this a common feature/setting of the Holosons?

I think that one of my main issues with the brightness on my optic was a shaded firing line and a full-sun target. which would make sense and line up with what is described in your screen shot. and might be helpful to know for anyone considering (presumably?) any Holosun with a solar panel?

[jbrimlow]

I have an MRO (not HD) on a scalarworks mount. I'm thinking of trying a dot-only Eotech if I can find one. Max L. seems to think pretty highly of them.

[GJM]

Thanks GJM

On the broader topic of the OP, is this a common feature/setting of the Holosons?

I think that one of my main issues with the brightness on my optic was a shaded firing line and a full-sun target. which would make sense and line up with what is described in your screen shot. and might be helpful to know for anyone considering (presumably?) any Holosun with a solar panel?

The Holosun pistol optics works as follows.

They typically come out of the box in auto. You can confirm this by pressing the +/- and seeing no change in the reticle intensity. Hold the + for more than three seconds and it goes from auto to manual. On a number of the models, holding the + again for more than three seconds puts the optic in lock out mode where the +/- don’t work to change the setting you selected in manual.

The - button controls intensity in manual, and if you hold it for more than three seconds, it will toggle between reticle options in the 507 but not 407 series.

[fatdog]

thinking of trying a dot-only Eotech

Did not even know they made those...https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/1008732050?pid=777224

[jbrimlow]

Did not even know they made those...https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/1008732050?pid=777224

Yeah, Eotech's best kept secret.

For more on why Max likes them:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_OhZZFJOXl/

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_P7zBxp8ZO/

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

What problem are you having, and do you have it in auto or manual mode?

I have been using three different PCC optics — Holosun 512C, Holosun AEMS and a Sig Romeo 3 XL. Prefer the AEMS, if I had to pick one.

What color reticle do you have on the AEMs & which PCC do you prefer @ this point?

[GJM]

What color reticle do you have on the AEMs & which PCC do you prefer @ this point?

I like red because it works well for my eyes, and allows me to have a green visible laser, and easily differentiate between the two.

[pastaslinger]

I like the holosun 510c for this

[ECK]

I find the old school C-more railway works really well for PCC. Vortex on a 45 deg offset mount for those awkward leans.

[HCM]

Thanks GJM

On the broader topic of the OP, is this a common feature/setting of the Holosons?

I think that one of my main issues with the brightness on my optic was a shaded firing line and a full-sun target. which would make sense and line up with what is described in your screen shot. and might be helpful to know for anyone considering (presumably?) any Holosun with a solar panel?

Yes. + for auto vs manual and - for changing reticles.

For the OP, The Holosun 510 and the Eotech seem to be the choice of the most competitive PCC shooters though I suspect that was partly due to the 512 model being hard to find until recently.

The AEM is promising.

[pastaslinger]

Yes. + for auto vs manual and - for changing reticles.

For the OP, The Holosun 510 and the Eotech seem to be the choice of the most competitive PCC shooters though I suspect that was partly due to the 512 model being hard to find until recently.

The AEM is promising.

Something to keep in mind is the 510c is easy to put at lower 1/3 with an oem spacer but the 512 requires a riser rail

[LittleLebowski]

How’s the battery life on the AEMs?

[LittleLebowski]

How’s the battery life on the AEMs?

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Any more AEMs or other Holo/non-Holo feedback on PCC's recently?

[GJM]

I like the AEMS enough that I got a second one. Battery still going strong in the first one, and based on 510/512 experience, don't anticipate any issue.

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

I like the AEMS enough that I got a second one. Battery still going strong in the first one, and based on 510/512 experience, don't anticipate any issue.

Prolly nudged me over the ledge w/ that but will wait for the green rets to land as I do have some time to wait for the JP5 so ……

[GJM]

Prolly nudged me over the ledge w/ that but will wait for the green rets to land as I do have some time to wait for the JP5 so ……

Humble brag!

[fatdog]

...non-Holo feedback on PCC's recently?

I am only about 2k rounds into the life of the "dot only" Eotech and quite happy with the choice. The Holosuns are probably a better value and work just as well. If I ever find a reason to switch out, this will go on an AR upper.