15 to 17 Round Conversion in a P2000/USPc Magazine?

[GlockenSpiel]

Some of you might have seen the OEM HK conversion kits to turn their 15 round p30/vp9 magazines into 17 rounds. Has anyone tried these with the p2000/USPc 13 round magazines? I'm assuming it would result in 14 or 15 rounds if the parts fit.

A guy on HKpro says it works, but I haven't seen anyone else. I suspect HK won't be in a hurry to approve this combination even if it works, as the compacts are not their newest guns.

[Ptero]

Some of you might have seen the OEM HK conversion kits to turn their 15 round p30/vp9 magazines into 17 rounds. Has anyone tried these with the p2000/USPc 13 round magazines? I'm assuming it would result in 14 or 15 rounds if the parts fit.

A guy on HKpro says it works, but I haven't seen anyone else. I suspect HK won't be in a hurry to approve this combination even if it works, as the compacts are not their newest guns.

I did it to turn a 13 round P2000 9mm mag into a 15 round mag. Its a tight fit on a closed slide at first, but once broken in, it has been functioning fine. Of course, your missing the two extra witness holes, but otherwise, works like a charm.

[GlockenSpiel]

Nice! I've liked these for a while and this may push me over the edge. To me this would catapult it to clear winner of the da/sa Glock 19 race.

The p2000 rear sight dovetail is also now used in the OR vp9s, so that might be more good news on the horizon as well...

[4RNR]

I'd love to first find a P2000 without the stupid 45lb DA pull

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[Sig_Fiend]

The p2000 rear sight dovetail is also now used in the OR vp9s, so that might be more good news on the horizon as well...

Are you absolutely sure about that? I hadn't heard that anywhere, but definitely nice to hear if that's the case.

[GlockenSpiel]

I'd love to first find a P2000 without the stupid 45lb DA pull

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It uses the same springs as the USP match trigger, and you can get all of those for less than 40 bucks.

[4RNR]

It uses the same springs as the USP match trigger, and you can get all of those for less than 40 bucks.Yea.....that requires more than just loading the mag and pulling the trigger. That's pretty much where my interest in firearms start and stop. It would be nice to find an LEM on the shelf!

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[GlockenSpiel]

Are you absolutely sure about that? I hadn't heard that anywhere, but definitely nice to hear if that's the case.

I've seen it multiple places online, but I haven't seen it in any official literature. It's definitely not the standard vp9 sight, as it's moved to the rear to make more room for the optic.

[jh9]

Yea.....that requires more than just loading the mag and pulling the trigger. That's pretty much where my interest in firearms start and stop. It would be nice to find an LEM on the shelf!

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You'll have to haunt gunbroker for a 9mm V2 P2000. They seem to make like one batch per year, and they're mostly gone in short order.

The .40s hang around longer, but there are several people here who had .40 P2000s issued to them off the original DHS/ICE (?) contract and they universally seem to have hated them. AFAIK it's the only .40 HK makes that isn't heavier than its 9mm counterpart. I'd imagine it's about as miserable to shoot as a gen 3 Glock 23.

[4RNR]

You'll have to haunt gunbroker for a 9mm V2 P2000. They seem to make like one batch per year, and they're mostly gone in short order.

The .40s hang around longer, but there are several people here who had .40 P2000s issued to them off the original DHS/ICE (?) contract and they universally seem to have hated them. AFAIK it's the only .40 HK makes that isn't heavier than its 9mm counterpart. I'd imagine it's about as miserable to shoot as a gen 3 Glock 23.

I actually had the 40LEM. I liked everything about it except the recoil. It felt like 2x4 smacking you in the palm each time. It really felt like they designed it to focus all the recoil energy back into the palm! I can't relate to Glocks because I actually find them really soft shooting in any caliber.

Bought it during the Sandy Hook panic and kept it for a long while. Really wanted to like it. Each range session I would think to myself.... maybe I was just "off" that last time. Eventually I sold it.

I'm not that desperate to hunt GB. If I see one around cool. If not then whatever. Not a big online shopper

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[GlockenSpiel]

Here's an update, prompted by getting a P2000 while the rebate was going. If you buy the vp9sk/p30sk 15 round magazine, sku 50257860, you can put the p2000 floorplate on it, giving you a 15 round magazine with witness holes that is the same size as the 13 round mag. It appears to be the exact same tube as the p2000/uspc magazine. I haven't shot it yet but see no reason why it wouldn't work if those mags work in the sk.

[Archimagirus]

Here's an update, prompted by getting a P2000 while the rebate was going. If you buy the vp9sk/p30sk 15 round magazine, sku 50257860, you can put the p2000 floorplate on it, giving you a 15 round magazine with witness holes that is the same size as the 13 round mag. It appears to be the exact same tube as the p2000/uspc magazine. I haven't shot it yet but see no reason why it wouldn't work if those mags work in the sk.

I tried it as well and can verify he speaks truth. The mag fits a little tighter and is a bit harder to seat on a closed chamber, but it works. This also resolved one of my biggest gripes with the P2000 which was a Glock 19 sized pistol with 2 less rounds.

[JAH 3rd]

Yea.....that requires more than just loading the mag and pulling the trigger. That's pretty much where my interest in firearms start and stop. It would be nice to find an LEM on the shelf!

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https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/15360/heckler+%26+koch+h%26k+p2000+v2+lem+9mm+luger+3.66 +13+1+2+black+black+steel+slide+black+interchangea ble+backstrap+grip

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[fatdog]

I have now converted 10 P2000/USPc 9mm 13 rnd mags with the factory 15 to 17 conversion kits intended for the P30/vp9 using the spring that came with the kit. Kit installs easily and I just keep the existing baseplate. I have run each through 4 cycles in either my p2000 or USPc in the 15+1 configuration without any malfunctions, including Federal HST 147, 124+P , Winchester 124 Nato and finally some 115gr blaser aluminum (looking for a malfunction in the last case) ammo.

As cited it is much harder to seat with 15 on board. I also noticed that with 15+1 in the gun, the magazine release paddle is MUCH harder to activate to unload the gun. While I am keeping the kits in place, I am only going to load 14 from here on out. So 14+1 for me. Seating, loading, and unloading with 14 in this config is indistinguishable from the 13 round config.

I tried using the original P2000/USPc magazine spring and it alleviates that tight top round a bit, but since I am pushing the mag to higher capacity I am going to leave the extra power springs in place for now and settle for 14 in those mags.

[breakingtime91]

Side note. New p30 hk night sights have the same front night sight height as factory p2000 sights. P2000 and p30 share the same front dovetail. You can run a mepro, trijicon bright and tough, or factory p2000 fear with the new green p30 front

[Wepeel]

I have now converted 10 P2000/USPc 9mm 13 rnd mags with the factory 15 to 17 conversion kits intended for the P30/vp9 using the spring that came with the kit. Kit installs easily and I just keep the existing baseplate. I have run each through 4 cycles in either my p2000 or USPc in the 15+1 configuration without any malfunctions, including Federal HST 147, 124+P , Winchester 124 Nato and finally some 115gr blaser aluminum (looking for a malfunction in the last case) ammo.

As cited it is much harder to seat with 15 on board. I also noticed that with 15+1 in the gun, the magazine release paddle is MUCH harder to activate to unload the gun. While I am keeping the kits in place, I am only going to load 14 from here on out. So 14+1 for me. Seating, loading, and unloading with 14 in this config is indistinguishable from the 13 round config.

I tried using the original P2000/USPc magazine spring and it alleviates that tight top round a bit, but since I am pushing the mag to higher capacity I am going to leave the extra power springs in place for now and settle for 14 in those mags.
I used my rebate to buy 3 P30sk 15 round magazines and 3 P2000 baseplates.

Between the P2000 13rd magazine and the P30sk 15rd magazine:

- As known, the magazine body is identical, except for the extra witness holes
- The followers are different - P2000 follower is larger
- The spring is different - 10 coils for the P2000, 9 coils for the P30sk
- The locking plates are different, but functionally it appears the same. The interface with the spring is the same, and the thickness is the same. There's a little detent on the bottom of the P2000 locking plate that interfaces with a little notch in the P2000 baseplate, which helps locate it, but this seems redundant
- The baseplates are obviously different, but what I found is the P30sk baseplate is a bit thicker and has a little recessed cutout in it that the locking plate sits in. This is ~0.1" deep. Meaning the the compressed length of the spring will be 0.1" longer than when using the P2000 baseplate.
- When running the P2000 baseplate on the P30sk magazine, 15 rounds is very, very tight. So tight that only 1 of the 3 mags I can get a 15th round in. When I tried it for the P30sk magazines as is, 15 rounds was a bit tight, but nothing out of the ordinary. So it appears that 0.1" makes a difference.
- For the mag I could get 15 in, the mag was very difficult to seat on a loaded chamber, though the gun cycled fine
- 14 rounds are easy to load, and all mags ran fine, with +1, cycling, inserting is no problem, etc.

I think I'll be doing 14+1 from here on out too. It wouldn't be hard for someone to make a P2000 baseplate with the little recessed cutout in to it make it dimensionally similar to the P30sk baseplate (internally), but there probably isn't a big enough market for it.

[GyroF-16]

I appreciate the information, and have two kits to increase my USPc9 mags to 15. I’ve got them installed, and am about to order several more.
Anybody tried them on USPc40 mags? I’m guessing they’d be good for +1 in those.