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Eddy702
08-14-2012, 03:52 PM
What do we do in a fight that starts up close? What if you've already been sucker punched and trying to perform a speed rock will result in you eating a couple more fists? What can you do if you've been tackled and your attacker has you pinned?

Cecil Burch's seminar hosted by Invictus Training provided us with realistic solutions that we were able to test under pressure.

Day 1:
Crazy Monkey Defense

The day started with a brief history the founder of the Crazy Monkey Defense system, Rodney King, and how he developed the system thru his experiences training Muay Thai and bouncing at bars in South Africa. One thing stood out in every street fight he witnessed: the man who got knocked out would usually end up going to the hospital. From this comes the central focus of CM - Protect your head so that you don't get KO'ed!

We worked solo drills to ingrain the movement, then various partnered drills with increasing pressure. The final drill (the wall drill) involved the defender with his back against the wall so that he couldn't retreat, forcing him to rely on what we trained that day to protect himself from the attacker who proceded to pummel the defender (at less than 75% force) from different angles for about 15 seconds. This increased our confidence in the system and I thought this was the most useful of the drills. I'm confident that it would have still worked if we went at 100% too, and I'm also confident that it would keep me from getting KO'd in a street encounter long enough to try for a takedown (which CM defensive structure also integrates into).

I found CM to be a very easy to learn and use, and started using what I had learned during MMA classes. Although I took a lot of low leg kicks, and still got taken down, CM worked to protect my head effectively. For an uncoordinated guy with little background in striking, and not enough time to train, it worked far better than the commonly taught strategy of trying to duck, slip and parry.

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Day 2:
Immediate Action Jiu Jitsu

What do we do on the ground?

The class began with a step by step explanation of the hip bridge and hip escape and how to pull it off properly so that it will work even if you're in full kit with a duty belt. I won't write much since you can just watch it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5X__Q7Gvlo

The idea of the hip bridge is drawn from BJJ, the same source that Army Combatives program gets it from but I've been to three, half day check in the box combatives classes during each mob and while the idea is the same the proper execution of the technique was not taught correctly at any combatives class I was at. There are a few things that go into the upa in order for it to work successfully, Cecil went over these, and then corrected up individually on what tweaks we needed to make.

Later Cecil demonstrated a variation of the traditional BJJ stand up in base which many here would recognize from Army Combatives (http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_combatives/basic_groundfighting_combative_techniques/stand-up-in-base.shtml). While the familiar method is good for the mat, I saw how the IAJJ version would be easier if you were wearing a lot of gear, or simply old, fat and out of shape. It also allows you to draw your weapon much earlier than the way shown. The difference is you bring your rear shin under your butt when you're sitting up (from here you can draw your pistol), then come forward using both legs to stand up, leaving both hands free. It is slightly slower but I thought it was more balanced and offered a better defense if you're struck than having just one arm out in front.


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The weekend seminar was money well spent and gave me usable and practical answers hand to hand 'combatives' situations that a soldier or civilian would find himself in.


- just added -

1: Everyone should learn and practice some jits before your class, even if you can only do this thru youtube. If everyone has a basic knowledge of at least guard and side control, you'll get better practice at the seminar out of it, plus Cecil (a black belt) can give you tips on how to optimize your positioning. What he can't do is teach you how to do everything from the ground up while you're all in the middle of a seminar with a dozen others.

2: Wear long pants in case you don't have enough mats (prevents rugburn).

3: Bring your family, your wife and kids will get a lot out of this too.

4: Remember, 'Crazy Monkey' is the secret word of the day so say it every chance you get.

ToddG
08-14-2012, 03:58 PM
Thanks for the AAR. This is definitely on my must take class list!

NickA
08-14-2012, 04:14 PM
Thanks for this, I'll be in the seminar in a few months and it's nice to get a preview!

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Sheep Have Wool
08-14-2012, 04:19 PM
Now I really have to find a way to make it to the DFW class in October.

phil_in_cs
08-14-2012, 04:29 PM
Now I really have to find a way to make it to the DFW class in October.

Do it! I'm signed up for that one already.

NickA
08-14-2012, 04:36 PM
Now I really have to find a way to make it to the DFW class in October.


Do it! I'm signed up for that one already.

Excellent, it will be great to put fists to faces.. or faces to names, or whatever:)

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Sheep Have Wool
08-14-2012, 04:40 PM
Do it! I'm signed up for that one already.

I'd love to - especially since a number of fellow PFers are going to be attending - but it's typically an extremely busy time of year for me. Probably depend on how well some new hires work out.

F***ing employees, why don't they work?!

Dropkick
08-14-2012, 04:55 PM
Very cool... I'm looking forward to the Sept class in Baltimore, Maryland!

http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?4172-H2H-in-the-Weapons-Based-Environment-with-Cecil-Burch-Baltimore-9-22-23-12

Shawn.L
08-14-2012, 07:38 PM
Very cool... I'm looking forward to the Sept class in Baltimore, Maryland!

http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?4172-H2H-in-the-Weapons-Based-Environment-with-Cecil-Burch-Baltimore-9-22-23-12

I'll see you there.

:cool:

JM Campbell
08-14-2012, 08:43 PM
SHW make the time, I'll buy dinner if you make it.

As Nick said faces to PF handles would be cool and spending time learning a skill set with like minded individuals is always a great experience.

Eddy702
08-15-2012, 03:01 AM
1: Everyone should learn and practice some jits before your class, even if you can only do this thru youtube. If everyone has a basic knowledge of at least guard and side control, you'll get better practice at the seminar out of it, plus Cecil (a black belt) can give you tips on how to optimize your positioning. What he can't do is teach you how to do everything from the ground up while you're all in the middle of a seminar with a dozen others.

2: Wear long pants in case you don't have enough mats (prevents rugburn).

3: Bring your family, your wife and kids will get a lot out of this too.

4: Remember, 'Crazy Monkey' is the secret word of the day so say it every chance you get.

Sheep Have Wool
08-15-2012, 12:04 PM
After a quick discussion with Cecil and a look at my schedule, I'll be attending.

JM Campbell
08-15-2012, 12:20 PM
Sweet, see you there.

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dookie1481
08-17-2012, 09:12 PM
Damn, Cecil was in Vegas? Where was this at?

Eddy702
08-19-2012, 09:19 PM
Damn, Cecil was in Vegas? Where was this at?

Invictus Training center its next to the airport

http://www.invictustraining.com/CecilBurchRecap.html