"New" holster maker - Warcat Tactical

[BehindBlueI's]

https://warcat.com/

This is apparently the same people who own Alien Gear, so I'm not sure what the quality level is going to be. They are running an introductory rate of $17.76 for their AIWB polymer holster, regardless of options (you can get a RDS hood molded in) and you can add an OWB for $7.76. You cannot order the OWB separately, only as an add on to the AIWB.

I'm not sure I'll like the clip they use, and I'm wondering if the hood will add too much bulk. That said, I figured for the price I might as well give them a shot. 30-day return policy, lifetime warranty.

[HeavyDuty]

With that name, does it scratch the shit out of your side without any warning?

Seriously, I’d like to see how the hood works out.

[octagon]

I picked one up because of the price and it is pretty decent for fit and finish with no sharp edges, flash or problems. Fits my 365 and XL well with no extra slop or excessive rattle. The clip is ok but not great but can be changed if desired.

Watch the extra fees as mine was $36 delivered so still reasonable but not half the price they list.

[HeavyDuty]

I picked one up because of the price and it is pretty decent for fit and finish with no sharp edges, flash or problems. Fits my 365 and XL well with no extra slop or excessive rattle. The clip is ok but not great but can be changed if desired.

Watch the extra fees as mine was $36 delivered so still reasonable but not half the price they list.

I even added the half price hooded OWB for a 19 and it was that much shipped for both holsters.

[BehindBlueI's]

I picked one up because of the price and it is pretty decent for fit and finish with no sharp edges, flash or problems. Fits my 365 and XL well with no extra slop or excessive rattle. The clip is ok but not great but can be changed if desired.

Watch the extra fees as mine was $36 delivered so still reasonable but not half the price they list.

I got 4 holsters (going to split with someone else), 2 IWB and 2 OWB for an average of $15 each after shipping.

[23JAZ]

So they have a 43X version but not a G48!? That makes sense. :rolleyes:

[HCountyGuy]

So they offer the holsters for a red dot, but the holsters won’t accommodate suppressor height sights.

Oooookay then.

[HeavyDuty]

So they offer the holsters for a red dot, but the holsters won’t accommodate suppressor height sights.

Oooookay then.

I just noticed that. I may need to cancel the order.

[GearFondler]

So they offer the holsters for a red dot, but the holsters won’t accommodate suppressor height sights.

Oooookay then.I'm not sure you understand the complexity involved in making a sight channel 3mm deeper.

[Larry T]

Alien Gear (and any of the other "Tedder Enterprises" offerings) is the Barney Fife of holsters. This new thing is no different.

[octagon]

I got 4 holsters (going to split with someone else), 2 IWB and 2 OWB for an average of $15 each after shipping.

Maybe I wasn't clear. The taxes and shipping doubled the price. The holster was as advertised.

[Sig_Fiend]

Alien Gear (and any of the other "Tedder Enterprises" offerings) is the Barney Fife of holsters. This new thing is no different.

Believe me, I get it as I tend to be unreasonably opinionated about what I consider "quality". Though, this doesn't seem like a fair assessment in this case. Looking at the pics, they seem to offer a number of features we'd expect in a quality holster. Namely:


NOT a hybrid holster
FULL coverage of the trigger guard, without interfering with establishing grip
Good retention without being excessive. Judging by the pics, appears like retention should be decent, and not ridiculous like a Fobus.
Ability to accept a wedge
Option for some type of claw / mod wing
Mounting adjustments for height and/or angle
Option for red dot cuts or hoods
Tension adjustment, if applicable


I say give them a chance.

[BehindBlueI's]

Maybe I wasn't clear. The taxes and shipping doubled the price. The holster was as advertised.

No, I got it. I'm saying I bought 4 holsters in one order, so once taxes and shipping were figured in the average per holster was right at $15. The shipping on four holsters didn't appear to be any more than the shipping on two holsters, so it drives down the per unit price.

[octagon]

Cool. I should have done the same as $12 shipping is crazy for under 1/4 lb item in plastic bag package.

[LtDave]

I just received a package in a USPS priority mail flat rate small box. Postage was $9.50. I remember those being in the $5.50 range.

[orionz06]

I just received a package in a USPS priority mail flat rate small box. Postage was $9.50. I remember those being in the $5.50 range.

Current rate is $9.20. Commercial is a little better, but adding in the label and tape cost doesn't hurt.

[JCN]

I ordered a couple left handed MRDS P365XL holsters to further my left hand goofiness.

[HeavyDuty]

The company confirmed the version with the hood does not work with suppressor height sights, it wasn’t a website error. Mine will be going back unopened.

[JAD]

Where are they manufactured?

[Hambo]

The price is great for a non-dominant hand holster I hope to never use.

[BehindBlueI's]

Where are they manufactured?

Idaho.

[Bucky]

So they have a 43X version but not a G48!? That makes sense. :rolleyes:

Well a 43 and 43X are likely the same holster. The 48 holster would be longer. That said, I did go there expecting to be disappointed with no 92 Compact holster, but expecting to pick up a 48 holster.

[SiriusBlunder]

BLUF: Better than Uncle Mike's/Fobus and worth the money.

I ordered 4 holsters on the Saturday the 12th. AIWB: P365, P365XL OWB: P365XL, G19.

Received shipping notification on the 13th, and received the package on the 16th. Didn't pick it up until early this morning.

Overall, they are decent. They cover the trigger completely, I couldn't get my finger inside the holster to pull the trigger, and with retention corrected, they passed the shake test. Cosmetically, they have some mold/tooling marks, but no sharp edges.

On the 2 AIWBs, the retention was fine out the box. On the G19 OWB, it was too loose and I have it cranked down to about the limit. On the P365XL OWB it was the opposite and way too tight. I had to loosen it so there is only about 1 turn left holding the retention screw in (if that makes sense), so if I ever decide to use this for anything besides the range, I would look for a longer screw.

I did a few draws with a mastermind belt with all the holsters. They all stayed attached to the belt. The AIWB clips are bulky and I would guess not that strong, but since I replace all my clips with PTD loops, not an issue for me. I haven't done that yet, but it looks like there is enough room to make the swap.

I actually ordered a non MRDS OWB for the P365XL and confirmed that on my order email and packing slip, but they obviously sent the MRDS version. I emailed customer support so I'll report back on their customer service.

So far, I'd say worth the money. Better quality than an Uncle Mike or Fobus, but slightly below Concealment Express (but half the price). Obviously, no where near the quality of a JM Custom.

ETA: 55 minutes after sending an email to their support address, received an email from Customer Service with an order for the correct OWB holster and an email from a rep apologizing for the issue and that they were sending a pre-paid return label. Very good service to me in this day.

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[BehindBlueI's]

So they offer the holsters for a red dot, but the holsters won’t accommodate suppressor height sights.

Oooookay then.


I just noticed that. I may need to cancel the order.


The company confirmed the version with the hood does not work with suppressor height sights, it wasn’t a website error. Mine will be going back unopened.

My Glock 45 with suppressor height sights fit with no issue.

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[BehindBlueI's]

After messing around with them a bit this morning:

IWB holster: Decent and a good value at the current pricing. You can tell it’s not a top tier holster due to missing small touches but it’s perfectly serviceable. The clip is garbage tier, though, and swapping that out would greatly improve the holster. Including the junk pad was a nice touch. The claw is straight and not stepped, a stepped one helps tuck the grip in more, but it works.
With the Glock 43X, you can get a good grip with the holster at any ride height. With the Glock 45, you have to go raise it to the middle ride or you can’t get a good grip.

OWB holster: Not quite junk tier, but close. Only the highest ride height and adding a cant lets you get your thumb anywhere near the grip to establish your grip on the draw. You’re going to mash the giant clip and sweat guard with your thumb and/or web of your hand. I don’t mind the higher ride, though I doubt I would use this holster for anything but a range day.

Despite what the manufacturer says, at least some suppressor height sights work. My Glock 45 worked with no issue.

[orionz06]

they passed the shake test.

The shake test is not a thing, it's something people used to do because they thought it meant something and added 20 seconds to their YouTube "reviews".

You should be determining how your holster retention feels when all things that affect it are accounted for. The adjustments, if any, on the holster are only one element. How the body interacts in a variety of positions can take a loose holster and make it too tight. How a holster feels when standing may vary when seated, and may vary more if you're on the ground in some contorted position. This will also change from person to person as our waist sizes vary, body composition varies, and ultimately how much our waist shape changes and tightens or loosens the belt as we move around.

[BehindBlueI's]

The shake test is not a thing, it's something people used to do because they thought it meant something and added 20 seconds to their YouTube "reviews".

You should be determining how your holster retention feels when all things that affect it are accounted for. The adjustments, if any, on the holster are only one element. How the body interacts in a variety of positions can take a loose holster and make it too tight. How a holster feels when standing may vary when seated, and may vary more if you're on the ground in some contorted position. This will also change from person to person as our waist sizes vary, body composition varies, and ultimately how much our waist shape changes and tightens or loosens the belt as we move around.

The shake test is a thing for me. By departmental policy any holster that can't pass it is not approved. The right or wrong of the matter is beyond my control. I would suspect I'm not alone in this in the police world.

[orionz06]

The shake test is a thing for me. By departmental policy any holster that can't pass it is not approved. The right or wrong of the matter is beyond my control. I would suspect I'm not alone in this in the police world.

What about WML holsters?

[BehindBlueI's]

What about WML holsters?

Any holster.

Any retention devices are left in place, though. Hoods, thumb straps, etc.

[orionz06]

Any holster.

Any retention devices are left in place, though. Hoods, thumb straps, etc.

If you can share, what is the criteria for the "shake"? I'm curious how the "shakes" are kept consistent.

I'll also assume that this is one of those policies that can't be strayed from, no matter how much logic is applied?

[BehindBlueI's]

If you can share, what is the criteria for the "shake"? I'm curious how the "shakes" are kept consistent.

I'll also assume that this is one of those policies that can't be strayed from, no matter how much logic is applied?

The armorer flips it upside down and gives it a gentle shake. There is no shake calibration or the like, but it's just a gentle shake of an inch or two.

Like most minor rules, you can stray from it as you like and it will never be an issue until it's an issue. There is a certain amount of logic to it, in that the requirements must be codified in writing and nobody wanted a list of approved holsters, yet everyone knew sumdood would be rocking a universal Uncle Mike's if it just said "covers the trigger" or the like. I may be misremembering at this point, but I think it was also a compromise from requiring active retention.