No Time To Die

[YVK]

Went to see today. 4/5, maybe 4.5/5. Pretty long, Rami Malek wasn't menacing, and, while this doesn't go against the film, knowing that this was Craig's last film made certain things predictable. Craig himself played quite well, everyone else held their part, and Ana de Armas was delightful in her short role. Car chases and shooting were what one would expect in 2021 (-20?) Bond film, and one handed draw / single shot in a tunnel at the end of the movie was a subtle throwback touch that I think everyone missed.

Craig's Bond was what they needed to break the mold and separate from others. I am curious where they will go to next.

[Totem Polar]

I largely agree. I’d give it 4.5/5, myself. Lots of classic Bond iconography, if you are a fan who’s seen all the rest. Long, but I was not looking at my watch—a rarity with today’s movies, to be blunt. Entertaining and action-packed, I suspect that this one will go down in the archives as one of the better Bond movies. Craig delivered.

I suppose time will tell where they go from here. I’m not entirely optimistic, but we shall see.

All that aside, this one is worth seeing in the theater if anything coming out of Hollywood is. JMO.

[Sensei]

I am curious where they will go to next.

A transgender lesbian person of color.

[LOKNLOD]

A transgender lesbian person of color.

Laverne Cox in "No Time to Guy" directed by the Wachowskis?

[Joe in PNG]

They should do one of two things- either end it now, or go period to the original novels (late 50's).

[Stephanie B]

A transgender lesbian person of color.

I’d be in favor of that, if only to watch the culture-warriors throw some epic hissy-fits.

[blues]

Maybe BDSM...

James or Jane Bound

:rolleyes:

[ccmdfd]

I thought they had already chosen a minority female as the next 007.

[coldcase1984]

One of my sons saw it Friday and loved it.

He confirmed a black apparent female is introduced as the new Bond.

Ian Fleming would be appalled.

[mmc45414]

A transgender lesbian person of color.

I’d be in favor of that, if only to watch the culture-warriors throw some epic hissy-fits.
Especially if the actor that gets the role is not a transgender lesbian person of color.

[Bio]

I thought they had already chosen a minority female as the next 007.

I was under the impression that Barbara Broccoli was against a female bond.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51133194.amp

[Totem Polar]

Maybe BDSM...

James or Jane Bound

:rolleyes:

Bondage. Jimmy Bondage.

[blues]

Bondage. Jimmy Bondage.

Hey, get your own material...

[ccmdfd]

Bondage. Jimmy Bondage.

Puts a whole new twist on, "Shaken, not stirred".

[JohnO]

A transgender lesbian person of color.

Doesn't the trans part solve a dilemma?

I read that Daniel Craig does not think Bond should be a woman. So with a Trans-Bond it can be a woman who has transitioned to a man. Or conversely a female Bond played by a trans-man. Craig can't argue lest he be called a transphobe.

[PD Sgt.]

I recall some comedian (Chris Rock perhaps) saying you can’t have a black James Bond because he would be getting pulled over every block driving an Aston….

Definitely looking forward to seeing this latest one however.

[YVK]

He confirmed a black apparent female is introduced as the new Bond.

She was introduced as agent who received 007 number, not Bond. Lots of humorous one liners between Craig and her in the film.


I thought they had already chosen a minority female as the next 007.

That gal played a supporting role. Unless something changes in her acting, I don't see her pulling it off as a main character. Without even going into how the gender diversity and inclusiveness figure into playing one of the most masculine characters, Daniel Craig as an actor left pretty big shoes to fill.

[Duces Tecum]

. . . Daniel Craig as an actor left pretty big shoes to fill.

Mrs. Tecum and I think Daniel Craig was the best Bond they've had, with Roger Moore in the anchor position.

[blues]

Mrs. Tecum and I think Daniel Craig was the best Bond they've had, with Roger Moore in the anchor position.

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[HCM]

A transgender lesbian person of color.

Anything would be better than commie hypocrite Daniel Craig. Plus, 007 has always loved the ladies ….

[Duces Tecum]

Yep, blues, I'd take Daniel Craig over Sean Connery. Connery's edges, in my mind, were over-polished. That was appropriate for the character as developed by Ian Fleming, but that was then and now is now. Craig, with his sharp corners and all, is more contemporary, thus my preference.

I thought Connery, as Jim Malone in The Untouchables, was superb.

[Duces Tecum]

Doubled posting.

[blues]

Yep, Blues, I'd take Daniel Craig over Sean Connery. Connery's edges, in my mind, were over-polished. That was appropriate for the character as developed by Ian Fleming, but that was then and now is now. Craig, with his sharp corners and all, is more contemporary, thus my preference.

I thought Connery, as Jim Malone in The Untouchables, was superb.


Yep, Blues, I'd take Daniel Craig over Sean Connery. Connery's edges, in my mind, were over-polished. That was appropriate for the character as developed by Ian Fleming, but that was then and now is now. Craig, with his sharp corners and all, is more contemporary, thus my preference.<br><br>I thought Connery, as Jim Malone in&nbsp;<em>The Untouchables,</em>&nbsp;was superb.


I heard you the first time. ;)

(Personally, I prefer to keep close to the source material and let those who want to create a new character come up with their own material and story, distinct from the original. But, that's not the way...as we have seen with Shakespeare et al.)

That said, I lost interest in the Bond series decades ago, to be honest.

[Totem Polar]

As a character that was both human and larger than life, I feel that Craig’s portrayal run was the best.

Rough, craggy, and impeccably dressed and fed.

Daniel Craig Douglas.

[Edster]

They should do one of two things- either end it now, or go period to the original novels (late 50's).

Man, I can't agree more with this.

The character is a product of the cold war era. He seems aimless today when movies must have globally-agreed-upon villains so they don't ruin ticket sales in any one country.

I'm no movie critic but I suspect that's why the Craig-era Bonds started to get more introspective. That's why I think the plots are now one-man-against-the-machine like "Bourne Identity".

It would be highly entertaining if they went with a retro Bond. Something like they did with the movie "Atomic Blond". Re-read the novels and set them in the 50s - 60s.

[Totem Polar]

It would be highly entertaining if they went with a retro Bond. Something like they did with the movie "Atomic Blond". Re-read the novels and set them in the 50s - 60s.

You’re hired.

:D

Seriously, a run of “period” movies would solve most all the problems, from the exit of Craig to the SJW stuff. Plus, they’d be visually spectacular.

[Trooper224]

Saw it yesterday. I saw none of the issues that have caused such teeth gnashing on the internet by fragile male egos.

Bond was not emasculated. He and the new 007 engage in a bit of banter, but both come to respect each other as equals. There's only one small nod to progressivism and if you aren't paying attention you'll miss it. You'll also think, "that figures" as it's in keeping with that character. One of the things I've appreciated about Craigs run as Bond is, they've allowed the character to age. Here, Bond is a bit weary and tired of it all. He's also portrayed as age appropriate. Craig isn't a man in his mid-fifties trying to act twenty something. They've allowed the character to age out, which I appreciate. The only big criticism I have is, both Rami Malek and Ana de Armas are underused. Well, and Felix Leiter doesn't get the send off he deserves. Other than those points I enjoyed it. I found it to be a good cap to the Craig era.

Honestly, I think the character as a whole has run his course. This won't be the final Bond movie because it's the only cash cow for the production company that makes them. However, if this were the final Bond movie I'd be good with that.

[Balisong]

I could have sworn several years back they said Idris Elba was selected as the next Bond? That's why I was surprised that they made another Craig movie.

[JRB]

Saw the movie this weekend with my wife.

Overall pretty damn good. Surprising plot hole about EMP vs Nanobots though.

That said, I don't understand why every popular white-dude character in every popular story line that exists must be subjected to this needless re-cycle and re-imagining with different demographics. If that must happen, it'd be nice to see badguys get the same shake for equality. Where's the story with an evil mastermind that's a gay black guy? Nope, villains and bad guys must all be straight white dudes, it seems. Just how all commercials featuring any kind of idiot or person 'doing it wrong because they're not using product XYZ' has a straight white guy for that role, because allowing any other demographic to be portrayed as such in an advertisement would be all of the 'ists'


Plus, there's a shitload of good writing out there and new stories, why can't we just have a brand new story with all new characters and get our badass female secret agent movie series that way, and skip all the bellyaching altogether? Hollywood's done a lot of movies sort of like this anyway - Lucy, Peppermint, etc and they were all pretty good.
I just don't see anything coming from a re-mixed James Bond except a lame movie and one more Pyrrhic victory in the SJW social war, which in turn only further divides otherwise reasonable people.

[AMC]

Saw it yesterday with my son. Had a feeling I knew where it was going with a line Bond says to Madelyn in the opening minutes of the film. Again, anyone who's seen all the films recognizes it, and it hits home. The ending credits song just further drives home the point.

I'm also in the club that Craig was the best Bond. I agree with HCM about him as a person, but if I don't separate the actor from the character I'd never watch another movie. Sometimes, the actor just gets in the way and I just can't.

This one was a fitting close to the Craig era, and in my opinion a fitting close to the Bond era. I'd be fine with them ending it here.

[HeavyDuty]

Going to see it tonight at one of the local Austin dinner-and-a-movie places.

[TOTS]

So Daniel Craig is a great actor and has made great Bond Movies. But as soon as you are exposed to the character from the Flemming novels, there’s only one Bond and the picture blues posted should be the end of the discussion! He was specifically chosen as he represented the character like no other actor could at the time.


Yep, blues, I'd take Daniel Craig over Sean Connery. Connery's edges, in my mind, were over-polished. That was appropriate for the character as developed by Ian Fleming, but that was then and now is now. Craig, with his sharp corners and all, is more contemporary, thus my preference.


While the 60s Bond may have more polished edges, that’s a deliberate nod to the British protocol and aristocracy built into his world. And Connery didn’t even have any of this polish. Didn’t even wear a watch so Cubby Broccoli (producer) had to take the Rolex off his own wrist for Connery to wear while filming. The expensive clothes and cars were to represent durability and craftsmanship from hand-built wares in that era rather than status, which the novel really didn’t bestow on the character. The books describe him as wearing nice suits because one had to be able to get in a fight and then dust your jacket off and put it back on. All of the Craig-era trimmings are only to indicate expensive tastes and a decadent lifestyle (of course, product placement also) so I would almost argue the Craig character has more polish. Flemmings Bond doesn’t work in today’s world short attention span, everything disposable, status driven world so they had to change the character to be more relatable. That’s why Connery is Bond. Change my mind!

[ccmdfd]

Connery was the right Bond for his Era, Moore was the same for his Era, and Craig for this one.

Imagine taking the Craig films back in time to the 60's-70's and showing them. The MPAA would probably have refused an R rating for them, and viewers' heads would have exploded.

I loved the Moore films as a kid, but find them cringeworthy now. Yet I still laugh my a$$ off for Neilson's antics in Airplane and Naked Gun as well as Sellers in Pink Panther.

So do I understand it correctly that we will have both a series on the replacement 007, as well as one on post-retirement Bond? (or perhaps prequels for Bond prior to His Magesty's Secret Service)

[blues]

As I mentioned, I lost interest in the Bond genre many years ago...but I could never see Roger Moore in that role. There was, to my mind, just something off in his persona...and not the man's man I envisioned Bond to be. A man who could wear a tux one moment and play rugby the next.

In any case, everyone is free to choose their favorites. Who's to say who's right?

[Paul D]

The next James Bond will be a white guy.

Spectre (2015) made $200M in the US and $680M worldwide. Of that $680M, more than half came from Asia, Africa and eastern Europe. UK made up about $124M. I am certain that those audiences in Asia, Africa and E. Europe aren't woke and have a different view of LGBTQ issues than the US/UK. MGM is in the business of making money.

[blues]

The next James Bond will be a white guy.

Spectre (2015) made $200M in the US and $680M worldwide. Of that $680M, more than half came from Asia, Africa and eastern Europe. UK made up about $124M. I am certain that those audiences in Asia, Africa and E. Europe aren't woke and have a different view of LGBTQ issues than the US/UK. MGM is in the business of making money.

I think Idris Elba could have taken up the mantle. He impressed mightily in "The Wire". Less so, for me personally, in "Luther" but only because it wasn't as great a show.

He has presence and I believe he'd make a fine Bond if called upon.

[Trooper224]

I'd very much like to see Idris Elba as Bond.

[Paul D]

Idris Elba would be cool. I remember there were rumors 1-2 years ago that he was up next to bat but he publicly denied it...like a spy.

[donlapalma]

Saw it today and loved it. I'll miss Craig in this role.

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[Hot Sauce]

IMO Craig plays the role well, but most of the actual scripting of the movies he's been is sucks. This one was plain tedious. The only Bond films of his I liked overall were Casino Royale and Skyfall.

Connery is still and will always be THE Bond.

[AMC]

I think Idris Elba could have taken up the mantle. He impressed mightily in "The Wire". Less so, for me personally, in "Luther" but only because it wasn't as great a show.

He has presence and I believe he'd make a fine Bond if called upon.

Several years ago my brother and I were talking about the various proposals to "re-imagine" and recast Bond. The whole racial recast thing was brought up and we both thought it would be a bad idea. Then someone mentioned Idris Elba and we looked at each other and said "Oh...yeah. I could actually see that." Elba has the suave, masculine gravitas to pull off the role. That said, I think at this point he's too old for the role.

[blues]

Several years ago my brother and I were talking about the various proposals to "re-imagine" and recast Bond. The whole racial recast thing was brought up and we both thought it would be a bad idea. Then someone mentioned Idris Elba and we looked at each other and said "Oh...yeah. I could actually see that." Elba has the suave, masculine gravitas to pull off the role. That said, I think at this point he's too old for the role.

Yep. My first inclination when I heard rumblings about taking the Bond character into a different direction was "why is it necessary?"...but as a fan of his during his "Wire" years, he struck me as someone who could pull it off. I agree that it is possible the ship has sailed in terms of his age...but I wouldn't say definitively.

There are few others I can think of who would have been as suitable for the role overall, if that was the direction they intended to pursue...

I can think of other great actors, black and white, but who didn't have the physical bearing the role demands, imho.

[YVK]

Yep. My first inclination when I heard rumblings about taking the Bond character into a different direction was "why is it necessary?"...but as a fan of his during his "Wire" years, he struck me as someone who could pull it off. I agree that it is possible the ship has sailed in terms of his age...but I wouldn't say definitively.

There are few others I can think of who would have been as suitable for the role overall, if that was the direction they intended to pursue...

I can think of other great actors, black and white, but who didn't have the physical bearing the role demands, imho.

With the exception of Australian Lazenby, all Bonds have been British. If producers kept with this tradition, Elba and maybe three more guys are it. If Elba can do Bond's sarcastic humor, he can do Bond.

[Totem Polar]

The next Bond should just be an up and comer that nobody’s ever heard of who is perfect for the role. JMO.

Elba would have been great, but he’ll be in his 50’s before shooting could even start. Maybe one movie. Other than that, they are looking for the next Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth to turn into a breakout star with the franchise.

Or a transgender lesbian of color. That shit works too.
;)

[ccmdfd]

Yep. My first inclination when I heard rumblings about taking the Bond character into a different direction was "why is it necessary?"...but as a fan of his during his "Wire" years, he struck me as someone who could pull it off. I agree that it is possible the ship has sailed in terms of his age...but I wouldn't say definitively.

There are few others I can think of who would have been as suitable for the role overall, if that was the direction they intended to pursue...

I can think of other great actors, black and white, but who didn't have the physical bearing the role demands, imho.

Well there's always the anti-aging CGI effects!

(just thew up in my mouth)

[awp_101]

As I mentioned, I lost interest in the Bond genre many years ago...but I could never see Roger Moore in that role.
Mom was a fan of the original Bond movies and she always referred to Roger Moore as the French Poodle of Bonds.

[DC_P]

villains and bad guys must all be straight white dudes, it seems.

For the last two years, straight white guys are all villains and bad guys.

On a similar slant, when have you seen a commercial lately featuring a straight white couple? Statistics be damned, that is no longer the acceptable norm.

[fly out]

I recall reading that Idris wanted to do it, but was surprised and put off by the backlash when it had been floating around as a possibility. I could be misremembering, but I don't think so.

I think he could pull it off, but, at his age, and with the extended release schedule for these movies, I think he'd be a one-movie Bond, and (a) if they continue at all, I bet they'd rather get three to five movies out of a new investment, and (b) it would be bad optics to switch him out after one film, even if that was the plan all along. The naysayers would feel that they had been vindicated.

The franchise could continue, or it could end, and either would be fine with me.

[blues]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTgyMzgwNDI1M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjMxMDEzOQ@@._ V1_.jpg

"Yeah, that's right...James Bond. You wanna make somethin' of it?"

[HCM]

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[HeavyDuty]

There's only one small nod to progressivism and if you aren't paying attention you'll miss it. You'll also think, "that figures" as it's in keeping with that character.

And totally appropriate for the actor.


Surprising plot hole about EMP vs Nanobots though.

I was too hung up on the radios continuing to work that I missed that.

* * *

I found it very enjoyable, and am looking forward to doing a Craig Bond marathon after it is available for streaming. I feel Craig has been the best Bond to date, I grew up during the Connery to Moore transition. The move from over the top camp to mostly serious was needed.

[Hambo]

It would be highly entertaining if they went with a retro Bond.


While I'd love to see a well done retro Bond, the movie going demographic wouldn't. As I recall from the early novels. his gadgets were limted to a .25, a Colt revolver hidden in his car, his Rolex (used as brass knuckles), and some small OSS hidden knives. Not the sort of stuff that will get Gen Z out to the theater.

[Joe in PNG]

While I'd love to see a well done retro Bond, the movie going demographic wouldn't. As I recall from the early novels. his gadgets were limted to a .25, a Colt revolver hidden in his car, his Rolex (used as brass knuckles), and some small OSS hidden knives. Not the sort of stuff that will get Gen Z out to the theater.

Then again, what fancy gadgets do Jason Bourne or John Wick use?

[WobblyPossum]

Then again, what fancy gadgets do Jason Bourne or John Wick use?

Jason Bourne killed that one guy with a book in the third movie.

[DC_P]

Jason Bourne killed that one guy with a book in the third movie.

Wasn't for a kill, but he used a rolled up magazine in the first one, but I can't remember what for except to slap the guy in the face with it.

[alamo5000]

I went out after about a 2+ year hiatus from all movie theaters and watched this.

Personally I thought it sucked.

[Gadfly]

I was a bit too young to get into Connery as Bond. Moore was well established as bond when I first started to see the movies. So, I grew up on Moore as Bond. 9 year old me still loves Moonraker, and 11 Year old me REALLY loves For Your eyes Only (ahhh Melina...). But as an adult, I realize Moore is a laughable Bond, and the movies are pretty weak on plot and acting.

Dalton neve did much for me, as I always saw him a the Prince from Flash Gordon. I thought Brosnan really looked the part, and was not as campy as Moore... but the films he was in were all just, meh. (with the exception of Golden Eye... ahhhh Famke...)

I think Craig has done a great job rebooting the character. Bond got a lot more physical, he gets hurt, his clothes get torn and dirty... we are far from the camp of the 70s. Quantum of Solace was the weak point in his output.

I personally don't want t see Bond changed. He is what he is. As mentioned, you can write a compelling female lead, with her own back story. Atomic Blond was an amazingly well done, female led, action flick. It set a high bar. It was not trying to just be "Jane Wick", as it had a good cold war vibe we don't see to much these days. SALT was not as good, but still decent as a female secret agent lead. Add in Laura Croft, Mr and Mrs smith, la Femme Nakita, and you can write a female spy/action hero that works on her own, without trying to ride to coat tails of Ian Fleming. Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley also show that if you have the right actress with the right script, you get box office gold and a lasting legacy.

I would pay to go see an Atomic Blond sequel.

[Totem Polar]

Gadfly, concur, all of it.


PS.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/jamesbond/images/f/fc/Melina_Havelock.jpg

[alamo5000]

I personally don't want t see Bond changed. He is what he is.

Those people that get paid hundreds of millions of dollars apparently cannot come up with an original idea to save their lives.

They would rather hijack someone else's stuff rather than coming up with something original.

I definitely don't have anything against minority/female actors/leads/action heros. I just want the people in that industry to actually make something original that people will go see. Speaking for myself only if that were the case I would go to the movies 3 or 4 times more often than I do now.

Trying to say you can't like Picasso because you like Van Gogh, or you can't like classical music and rock n roll both is a completely stupid way of thinking.

[Totem Polar]

^^^It’s true: tout le monde went out to see “Black Panther” in the theater, because it offered up something new and epic.

I’m pretty sure that re-envisioning, say, “Spider Man” as a differently-abled polysexual woman of color would not be as successful a franchise.

Although, I do like “Spyderxyr” as a moniker. Has a ring to it. And I’d probably see a movie with the above noted hero/heroine/herox/herowhatev, because it would be nice to see a new idea. Just so long as it wasn’t *supposed* to be spiderman.

Zen master: “How do you make another person’s string appear shorter?”

Students: “Cut it! Burn it! Take it! Fold it…”

Zen master, laying out another, longer piece of string: “Now how does the old string look?”

Those old Zen fuckers were no fools.

Give the world a better hero if you want to put the old one into perspective. Anyone can piss, moan, and destroy.

[HeavyDuty]

^^^It’s true: tout le monde went out to see “Black Panther” in the theater, because it offered up something new and epic.

I’m pretty sure that re-envisioning, say, “Spider Man” as a differently-abled polysexual woman of color would not be as successful a franchise.

Although, I do like “Spyderxyr” as a moniker. Has a ring to it. And I’d probably see a movie with the above noted hero/heroine/herox/herowhatev, because it would be nice to see a new idea. Just so long as it wasn’t *supposed* to be spiderman.

Zen master: “How do you make another person’s string appear shorter?”

Students: “Cut it! Burn it! Take it! Fold it…”

Zen master, laying out another, longer piece of string: “Now how does the old string look?”

Those old Zen fuckers were no fools.

Give the world a better hero if you want to put the old one into perspective. Anyone can piss, moan, and destroy.

The brown acid?

[Totem Polar]

The brown acid?

Is that supposed to be the name of the next new superhero?

Or are you implying that I’m tripping balls…


;)

[HeavyDuty]

Is that supposed to be the name of the next new superhero?

Or are you implying that I’m tripping balls…


;)

Yes? Yes?

[Totem Polar]

Yes? Yes?

Fair…

:D

[blues]

https://youtu.be/uzFongNGuQM

[MistWolf]

I thought they had already chosen a minority female as the next 007.


I was under the impression that Barbara Broccoli was against a female bond.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51133194.amp

According to the article, there won't be a "female James Bond" nor did it say the new agent would be 007. The article stated "The forthcoming Bond film will see actress Lashana Lynch play a female 00 agent after Craig's Bond has left active service."

That's keeping inline with the James Bond universe. There have been other 00 agents. Bond is the seventh to be issued a "License To Kill".

If I recall, one story said there is only one 00 at a time, that Bond is the seventh after the previous six were killed. Another that there are more than one active 00 agent at a time, but most were dead.

In any case, I would love to see another 00 Agent added to the franchise!


Where's the story with an evil mastermind that's a gay black guy?

James Bond is sent to Baltimore to stop Omar and his plans to use a corrupted American Justice System to further his scheme to Take Over The World!

[jh9]

According to the article, there won't be a "female James Bond" nor did it say the new agent would be 007. The article stated "The forthcoming Bond film will see actress Lashana Lynch play a female 00 agent after Craig's Bond has left active service."

That's keeping inline with the James Bond universe. There have been other 00 agents. Bond is the seventh to be issued a "License To Kill".

If I recall, one story said there is only one 00 at a time, that Bond is the seventh after the previous six were killed. Another that there are more than one active 00 agent at a time, but most were dead.

In any case, I would love to see another 00 Agent added to the franchise!



James Bond is sent to Baltimore to stop Omar and his plans to use a corrupted American Justice System to further his scheme to Take Over The World!

006 and 007 were both in Goldeneye (Sean Bean playing Trevelyan / 006). I have no idea where or how 'canon' is defined in the Bond movie-world, but that's the precedent I remember for having multiple double-o's at once. So they could do it again. The big first would be having someone other than Bond be the star of the movie.

[ccmdfd]

006 and 007 were both in Goldeneye (Sean Bean playing Trevelyan / 006). I have no idea where or how 'canon' is defined in the Bond movie-world, but that's the precedent I remember for having multiple double-o's at once. So they could do it again. The big first would be having someone other than Bond be the star of the movie.

009 was in Octopussy, but only long enough to die.

[Joe in PNG]

If memory serves, "00X just got himself kilt" was a pretty common plot device.

Even the famous "No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!" scene had 007 noting that if he was killed, 008 would replace him.

[That Guy]

006 and 007 were both in Goldeneye (Sean Bean playing Trevelyan / 006). I have no idea where or how 'canon' is defined in the Bond movie-world, but that's the precedent I remember for having multiple double-o's at once. So they could do it again. The big first would be having someone other than Bond be the star of the movie.


009 was in Octopussy, but only long enough to die.

In one of the older Bond movies there were about nine 00's that at the beginning of the movie jumped out of an airplane during what was supposed to be a training mission (and then one of them got killed, of course). Unfortunately I can't recall which movie that was.

I guess most movies only show 007 because Her Majesty's Secret Service simply uses a "one riot, one 00" policy? :p

[Bucky]

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He was in a Bond movie. :)

[Bucky]

As for No Time To Die, I thought it was the best of the Craig films.

Moore was my favorite growing up, but his movies are cringeworthy to me today. The exception for me is For Your Eyes Only, which is still my favorite to this day.

[TOTS]

In Thunderball, don’t a bunch of 00s assemble in a semi circle of small chairs with no tables in front of them to get their briefing post missile heist? 🤷 All I really remember is the picture of Domino!!

Eta: picture of Domino
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[Cory]

Just saw it.

The Cuba section with Ana De Armas was the strongest portion of the film for me. Not just because she is gorgeous, but their banter really went well.

I liked seeing Bond mature and age. Post service Bond was cool.

Some of the issues I didn't like will spoil the movie.
Bond is in love with Madeline... and we're suppose to believe this is a deep connection on par with Vesper. Yet the chemistry just wasn't there. Seeing Bond interact with the idea of a family was cool. Genuinely. But it was so different that it was almost un-Bond. He had more connection with the kid, or with the sexy Cuban agent De Armas then his love interest.

The flirty-suave-action of the Cuba scenes really shows the old Bond. That whole persona is gone. Outside that small portion of the film you could nearly plug in another character.

I'm not sure I liked his death. It left the film on a huge bummer, could have easily been written differently, and could have had a more upbeat ending. Maybe upbeat is the wrong word... but it could have left a more satisfying ending.

I didn't have the chance ti watch all the credits to see if it said "James Bond will return"


Overall, a bit torn on the film. I've now seen every one of Craig's in theater. He remains my favorite Bond.

[Bucky]

Just saw it.

The Cuba section with Ana De Armas was the strongest portion of the film for me. Not just because she is gorgeous, but their banter really went well.

I liked seeing Bond mature and age. Post service Bond was cool.

Overall, a bit torn on the film. I've now seen every one of Craig's in theater. He remains my favorite Bond.

Agree about the best scene in the movie. Also thought she kicked better ass, was more convincing than double faux seven.

Also, that dress she had on was magical. No way there wouldn’t have been a “wardrobe malfunction” or three. Must be crazy CIA technology.