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GJM
09-20-2021, 08:22 PM
I picked my second Gen 5 23 MOS for my red dot field pistol experiment today. The first has a 509T and this one was to get a P1 Acro on a TD plate. Pulled the TD plate and the Acro off a G19, and got things organized on the new 23.


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Used our Wheeler laser sight in thingee, and the zero looked spot on from its previous installation on the G19. Next, I grabbed the Safariland Sig 320 RDS holster that I have been using with my G23/509T. I held the holster in my hand and gently inserted the 23/Acro to check fit and heard this terrible grinding noise. This is what I found.



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Looking inside the holster, it was clear that the front lens of the Acro which protrudes slightly more forward than the 509T contacted the plastic that forms the front sight channel.


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I texted Wayne and within 60 seconds he had me set up with a RMA to Aimpoint. We then discussed me shooting it a while broken, since the dot is contained internally, and I broke the sacrificial front lens. I checked zero with the Wheeler, and as you would expect this didn't effect zero. The shattered glass does muck up the BUIS, but this is fine for testing. I will probably put the broken Acro on a G17, since I don't have much .40 ammo. It is amazing the things that happen when you least expect them.

YVK
09-20-2021, 08:31 PM
SaGeJM Dynamo. Looking forward to real destructive testing.

MickAK
09-20-2021, 08:43 PM
How gently did you insert it? Seems like a quick field fix but that seems a little more sacrificial than desirable.

M2CattleCo
09-20-2021, 09:17 PM
I would blow that off with air real good before you shot it. A little shard of glass in an eye would suck.

fatdog
09-21-2021, 06:07 AM
yikes

RJ
09-21-2021, 06:38 AM
"That will buff out".

/sorry

Wow that sucks. Flying glass shards would not be cool. Hope it gets replaced quickly.

JohnO
09-21-2021, 06:42 AM
Aimpoint just might warranty that. Won’t hurt to ask.

backtrail540
09-21-2021, 07:34 AM
I texted Wayne and within 60 seconds he had me set up with a RMA to Aimpoint. .


Aimpoint just might warranty that. Won’t hurt to ask.

Wayne Dobbs
09-21-2021, 08:56 AM
It will be handled most ricky tick.

Doc_Glock
09-21-2021, 02:58 PM
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Must be a heck of a prominent point in front of the lens in that holster. I kept waiting for you to say "kidding, I actually wrecked the Cub and hit the Acro on something in the process."

JCS
09-21-2021, 06:29 PM
Yikes. Not exactly confidence inspiring for a duty optic.

Erick Gelhaus
09-21-2021, 06:51 PM
Interesting. Thanks for sharing GJM

MikeyCNY
09-21-2021, 07:45 PM
I held the holster in my hand and gently inserted the 23/Acro to check fit and heard this terrible grinding noise.

:doubt:

Ouch.

1Rangemaster
09-21-2021, 08:44 PM
Interesting. Thanks for sharing GJM

Agreed-and +1 on both GJM and Mr. Dobbs working this through.
I’m an ACRO user/fan. A P-1 is on my carry 19, and I look forward to the P-2 just for the battery, if not other reported improvements.
The fact that the sight is still functional is notable. I look forward to the “after damage” shooting report. I recall Cowan did not have any issues immediately, so this is valuable data. I may just strip a sight off as in an extreme situation-total sight failure-and see how the hits are.

There are/have been issues with any brand. This example brings to mind Erick Gelhaus writing about alternatives to dot plus iron sight fail. An impact which say, knocks out dot and knocks off front sight=really bad day. But one could get “effective” hits with a silhouette aiming technique. Food for thought and practice…

And I also wonder if GJM shouldn’t wear a face shield for the shooting test.

theJanitor
09-21-2021, 09:31 PM
Do you typically use the holster for the 320 for your glocks?

My 6354 doesn’t have those points.

Does anyone else have pics of a 6390? Do they all have points on the plastic mechanism?

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Edit: I did have to shave some plastic from this part as my g17 has the irons in back of the rmr, but I don’t think there were points to cut off

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GJM
09-21-2021, 09:36 PM
I had been using this 320 holster with a Gen 5 23 with a 509T, and it seemed a great fit. Unfortunately, the Acro’s front lens protrudes further forward than the 509T, and that contacted the hard plastic piece which pushed through the Acro’s front lens.

YVK
09-21-2021, 11:24 PM
Note to self: when I get my Acro, set it up with irons in front of the optic.

GJM
09-22-2021, 04:21 AM
Note to self: when I get my Acro, set it up with irons in front of the optic.

That is interesting, using the rear sight as a protector fir the front lens.

Hambo
09-22-2021, 06:22 AM
that seems a little more sacrificial than desirable.

Yeah, I'd like to hear Aimpoint's reasoning for making it that fragile. Assuming, of course, that GJM was gentle, and gentlemanly with his insertion technique.

runngun
09-27-2021, 05:05 PM
Is it possible that the crack was caused by a small particle on the latch, kind of like how a piece of spark plug insulator can shatter a car window?

GJM
10-02-2021, 12:50 PM
Within 24 hours of receiving my damaged Acro, Aimpoint had a replacement on the way back to me.

MistWolf
10-02-2021, 02:20 PM
That’s excellent customer service.