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GmanVP9
09-18-2021, 09:44 AM
For the military? Im curious only because most military guys seem to love Glock. Lets face it, they're pretty damn reliable. So Im just curious where Glock failed or Sig did better?

Note: Im NOT trying to turn this into a Sig vs Glock debate

VT1032
09-18-2021, 09:47 AM
Money. The sig bid was over $100 million cheaper.

tlong17
09-18-2021, 10:18 AM
I guess a dead horse can’t defend itself from being beaten too much.

vcdgrips
09-18-2021, 10:45 AM
Outside of my lane

Yet and still- teams/programs/units/organizational structures within said military has been and still buy Glock over other platforms when they have the discretionary money to do so.

Why?
They work/can be configured to a spec easily and can be maintained easily in the field by someone with 24 hours of training-max.

KevH
09-18-2021, 10:50 AM
$$$$$

gato naranja
09-18-2021, 10:56 AM
Money. The sig bid was over $100 million cheaper.

I have worked at two places that underbid on large orders ("bought" was the term) in a similar fashion; in one instance, the benefits were so inverse that for some years it was verboten to mention the sorry affair. Unfortunately for both of the companies involved, they were not in a position to capitalize on being the purveyors to the exalted buyers. The cachet of producing "X" for the military of a major nation - or one that purports to be such - appears to work wonders, so such practices are probably money well invested... and SIG has been shown to have absolutely no scruples about profits (or ethics in general).

Not that Glock gas been saintly, mind you.

TGS
09-18-2021, 11:00 AM
I guess a dead horse can’t defend itself from being beaten too much.

Apparently all the threads longer than 1 month old delete themselves on this forum.

Clusterfrack
09-18-2021, 11:22 AM
Apparently all the threads longer than 1 month old delete themselves on this forum.

It's LittleLebowski's secret plan to keep making big bucks off the forum.

hiro
09-18-2021, 11:50 AM
Apparently all the threads longer than 1 month old delete themselves on this forum.

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UNK
09-18-2021, 12:05 PM
It's LittleLebowski's secret plan to keep making big bucks off the forum.

Everything is sacrificed in the quest to become the bidet king.

TGS
09-18-2021, 12:12 PM
It's LittleLebowski's secret plan to keep making big bucks off the forum.

LittleLebowski getting his mod-staff pumped up for another day of making money off the angry poors on the interwebs:

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Clusterfrack
09-18-2021, 12:18 PM
LittleLebowski getting his mod-staff pumped up for another day of making money off the angry poors on the interwebs:


I'm the guy with the Fonzie haircut.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210918/7ba22e98fb152037e210b3478f54f7a0.jpg

Hot Sauce
09-18-2021, 12:51 PM
Apparently all the threads longer than 1 month old delete themselves on this forum.
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LittleLebowski
09-18-2021, 02:39 PM
LittleLebowski getting his mod-staff pumped up for another day of making money off the angry poors on the interwebs:

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I'll be happy when the upcoming PF server upgrades are paid off.

Flamingo
09-18-2021, 02:46 PM
I'll be happy when the upcoming PF server upgrades are paid off.

I am trying. I used to do the NRA Smile thing through Amazon, but now I come here first and go to Amazon though your affiliate link.

BehindBlueI's
09-18-2021, 03:08 PM
I'm the guy with the Fonzie haircut.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210918/7ba22e98fb152037e210b3478f54f7a0.jpg

Blues is the guy attached to the mustache in the left of the photo.

I was cut out of the shot as focus groups found I was "unapproachable" and "appealed to an undesirable demographic."

hiro
09-18-2021, 03:24 PM
Blues is the guy attached to the mustache in the left of the photo.

I was cut out of the shot as focus groups found I was "unapproachable" and "appealed to an undesirable demographic."

I'm pretty sure I was fired from the mail room and am now plotting the downfall of the "Masters of the Universe" from the comfort of my mum's basement

Mjolnir
09-29-2021, 04:42 PM
The testing is done in two (2) phases.

PHASE 1 identifies the two finalists

PHASE 2 pits the two finalists against one another.


PHASE TWO WAS NEVER DONE...


VIDEO: Small Arms Solutions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LUbLu6TqA&t=26s

GJM
09-29-2021, 04:49 PM
The irony is that we as consumers probably benefited from the 320 selection, as it made a viable alternative to Glock and keeps manufacturers on their A game continuing to innovate.

DDTSGM
09-30-2021, 12:33 AM
For the military? Im curious only because most military guys seem to love Glock. Lets face it, they're pretty damn reliable. So Im just curious where Glock failed or Sig did better?

Note: Im NOT trying to turn this into a Sig vs Glock debate

I know this is coming in late, but, have you not read The Black Rifle?

I'm surprised we didn't adopt the FN Five-seveN, make NATO switch to 5.7mm pistol ammo and THEN adopt the Sig in 9mm.

UNM1136
09-30-2021, 10:02 AM
Blues is the guy attached to the mustache in the left of the photo.

I was cut out of the shot as focus groups found I was "unapproachable" and "appealed to an undesirable demographic."

Focus group got something right..

pat