So, are we stuffing p365 non-MS in our pants and feeling ok about it?

[Brianjkeene]

As the title suggests - What’s our comfort level aiwb carrying a p365 non manual safety? With so many in the field abs no issues thus far, I would think ok? To be specific, I’m talking about the gun potentially going off on its own - not a negligent discharge.

[HCM]

As the title suggests - What’s our comfort level aiwb carrying a p365 non manual safety? With so many in the field abs no issues thus far, I would think ok? To be specific, I’m talking about the gun potentially going off on its own - not a negligent discharge.

There are no instances of P365 series guns going off on their own (a la the early P320s).

SIG has sold over a million of these things so if they was an issue it should have appeared by now.

[Brianjkeene]

There are no instances of P365 series guns going off on their own (a la the early P320s).

SIG has sold over a million of these things so if they was an issue it should have appeared by now.

There is the sound and reason I was looking for! I knew this but really still have my reservations - even if unfounded with this particular platform

[TOTS]

There is the sound and reason I was looking for! I knew this but really still have my reservations - even if unfounded with this particular platform

I believe the desire for any striker fired weapon carried aiwb to have the safety is to add a level of protection against a mishap when holstering/ drawing the pistol rather than to prevent an uncommanded firing due to a mechanical malfunction if the pistol itself.

Seeing as many many people carry SF guns appendix and not many outside of PF really think enough (or train enough) to consider this added level, I wouldn’t feel concerned about the lack of a safety on a 365 mechanically speaking. Furthermore, many of the SF pistols we enjoy just aren’t offered with safeties and don’t have SCDs made for them.

[Kirk]

Carrying one AIWB right now lol

[Noah]

I carried a P320 pre recall way back when, then a Glock without an SCD, then an M&P 2.0 with no safety, then a G19, years ago. But my thinking has since changed to preferring an extra layer of safety when holstering. Carried a 92 for a 2 years and now I'm carrying a Glock with an SCD. Any future carry guns for me will have an SCD/Hammer or manual safety, but that's just my preference. The P365 is mechanically safe, you just have no extra level of protection on that short, light, cocked trigger without even a trigger safety. Millions do it, but I'd only do it now if I didn't have any other way of carrying a chambered gun. SCD Glock is kinda like an even better LEM to me, at least where my thinking is now.

[mastiffkb]

Same concern here, so I decided to carry my SCD Glock 26 Gen 5 AIWB and save my P365 for pocket carry.

[TicTacticalTimmy]

I've done a bit of searching the interwebz for AD's with the P365 and found none. So, barring some freak accident or a manufacturing slip up at SIG, I would say you are justified in not being concerned about an AD.

An ND with that sweet single action only trigger is another conversation, and I won't muddy up this thread with my thoughts on that.

[Mitch]

The P365 (and variants) is probably the best gun Sig makes currently. If your concern is purely mechanical then buy one and don’t sweat it.

[YVK]

Not exactly the question asked but I eventually, after a pretty long time, was able to locate a manual safety P365 last week. I had handled one superficially awhile back and didn't care.

I handled this one less superficially and guess what evening dry fire program is for tonight.

[Archer1440]

Unlike the P320, the P365 comes out of the box ready to accept a manual safety with a very minor procedure. I’ve put at least six of them in for friends, and both of mine as well. It’s a trivial thing to do, even if you’re disinclined to spend the relatively small bit needed for the correct grip module.

[MickAK]

Not exactly the question asked but I eventually, after a pretty long time, was able to locate a manual safety P365 last week. I had handled one superficially awhile back and didn't care.

I handled this one less superficially and guess what evening dry fire program is for tonight.

I like it (P365XL Razorback) and it feels natural and smooth on the draw. It did take a couple hundred reps to get smoother.

[FrankB]

IWB is only comfortable for me at 3-4 o’clock, but I trust the P365 when treated properly. I reholster slowly, and tip the holster away from my body. I never really understood the need to stuff a pistol back into the holster with great speed. While I do sometimes carry the P365 IWB, the most comfortable (and almost as concealable) holster has been the Mitch Rosen that Sig sells for $80. Ive had mine for quite some time, and the pistol still clicks into place. It hugs the body tighter than any other OWB holster I’ve owned. IWB holster have a huge advantage of being able to take the pistol and holster of the body in an instant.

[FrankB]

Unlike the P320, the P365 comes out of the box ready to accept a manual safety with a very minor procedure. I’ve put at least six of them in for friends, and both of mine as well. It’s a trivial thing to do, even if you’re disinclined to spend the relatively small bit needed for the correct grip module.
Well That’s Easy!

https://youtu.be/4LS4uAwUJJk

[Archer1440]

Well That’s Easy!

https://youtu.be/4LS4uAwUJJk

It’s even easier than that video shows, and if one is disinclined to purchase the grip module with the cutouts, there happens to be a (faint) set of index lines on most of the standard grip modules (created by the mold slide) which provide a guide as to exactly what to Dremel or X-Acto knife on the thing to make it function and look indistinguishably from the purpose-made modules, if one isn’t too ham-handed with the thing.

Protip- put a small dollop of a suitable grease into the detent before installing the lever.

[Duelist]

Not for me. I am happy with GLOCKs with SCDs and S&W revolvers.

[MattyD380]

I feel like the obligatory kydex cocoons we call "holsters" are, in effect, the "safeties" these kind of guns lack. So, I guess you're not actually carrying it sans-safety--your safety is just something you buy and stick in your pants along with the gun.

Personally, I think kydex holsters are uncomfortable. YMMV, of course. I've tried many. No thanks. I usually carry in soft neoprene or reasonably thin leather--more comfortable, more flexible and usually thinner. But I'd never carry a gun like a sans-safety P365 in a holster like that--only DA/SA. I don't even feel comfortable carrying my Kahr in anything but the stiff leather holster I have for it.

[Jimichanga]

As the title suggests - What’s our comfort level aiwb carrying a p365 non manual safety? With so many in the field abs no issues thus far, I would think ok? To be specific, I’m talking about the gun potentially going off on its own - not a negligent discharge.

Everyday all the time.

[StraitR]

I would happily convert my brace of non-MS 365’s if somebody came out with a manual safety that allowed for reliable manipulation. The current factory offering is a bit too narrow for me. Needs to be a big enough shelf to ride my thumb on top while firing and hold under (pinning in the safe position) while holstering. Otherwise, it’s more of a liability, IMO.

[HeavyDuty]

I’m ok with manipulating my P365 MS, but if I were to ever want a P365XL for a larger holster gun I’d prefer a physically larger safety to go with it. I suspect the aftermarket will provide at some point.

To the OP - it took the manual safety version of the P365 for me to become comfortable with the idea of IWB carry.

[GJM]

I don’t think we stuff pistols into holsters regardless of their design and the position of the holster. We insert them carefully, and try to be mindful of muzzle direction.

[HeavyDuty]

I don’t think we stuff pistols into holsters regardless of their design and the position of the holster. We insert them carefully, and try to be mindful of muzzle direction.

“Don’t point the pistol at the gun.”

[S Jenks]

I carry an XL on the belt and I agree, the safety could be a bit larger as I don’t pocket carry. I hit it 100% of the time but it takes more of a concerted effort to ensure my thumb is pushing in, as well as down. I’m thinking of buying an extra safety and playing around with some grey JB Weld.

[Wonder9]

My P365 with manual safety turned me into a newt.

[Mobettadefense]

I carry a P365XL in a Keeper's Concealment Errand AIWB with zero issues when I am going with really light clothing (Shorts and t-shirt). I moved to the 365XL from the 365 to mount an optic.

Put me in the camp of those that installed a manual safety on a P365 and after dry firing/manipulating the safety over the course of several days took it back off because it was just too small for me to effectively reach and wipe off reliably. My XL glove size hands were incompatible with that safety and safety position for some reason which is weird because I do not notice the same problem with a Kimber Micro 9 (I have one that runs and works) that I use for pocket carry.