Reciprocity crossing state lines

[corneileous]

I know I posted about this a long time ago but looking at this website below…

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/terminology/types-of-concealed-carry-licensurepermitting-policies/unrestricted/?fbclid=IwAR3JkM73jNQNRKhTDb2R90XoN7zXp5EOomYLYaV6 0tm-YBIRCGQMfUtyVnQ



Does this web page look like it’s saying that out of all the constitutional carry states that North Dakota is the only state that only allows constitutional carry within their own state to their own residents, or is that just me? I was under the impression that every state that Oklahoma reciprocates with, I would have to have a permit in order to carry there.

I would assume the lady that I talked to knew what she was talking about but when I got a hold of somebody at the Texas concealed carry license department, she told me that once constitutional carry goes into affect for texas that the only people that are going to be allowed to carry without a permit on their person outside of their car in Texas will be people that live in Texas that, constitutional carry does not cross state lines.


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[RoyGBiv]

I am not aware of any provision in the new Texas law, effective 1-Sept, that would prohibit "constitutional carry" in Texas, by a resident of another state.

Full text here: https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Text.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB1927#

Summary text here: https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/BillSummary.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB1927
Emphasis is mine below.


House Bill 1927, the Firearm Carry Act of 2021, amends the Code of Criminal Procedure, Education Code, Government Code, Health and Safety Code, Human Resources Code, Labor Code, Local Government Code, and Penal Code to make it legal for any person 21 years of age or older to carry a handgun, either openly in a holster or concealed, in a manner consistent with state and federal law without first obtaining a handgun license, provided they are not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm and have not been convicted of certain specific offenses within the preceding five years. The bill maintains prohibitions against carrying a weapon on certain premises and further maintains restrictions on the authority to carry a handgun on certain other premises, including college campuses, which is reserved as a privilege only of license holders.

Among other provisions, the bill requires the Department of Public Safety to develop and post on its website a course on firearm safety and handling that is accessible to the public free of charge and makes a person who has been arrested, charged, and convicted of an offense involving the unlawful carrying of a handgun on another's property before September 1, 2021, eligible to have all records and files relating to the arrest expunged. The bill revises penalties for certain conduct involving a handgun, including by increasing the penalty for unlawful possession by an individual who is prohibited from possessing a firearm on the basis of a felony or Class A misdemeanor family violence conviction or an applicable protective order, and establishes a defense to prosecution for carrying a weapon in a place where weapons are prohibited for a person carrying a handgun who promptly departs from a location after being notified that carrying a weapon at that location is prohibited.


I am not a lawyer. This is my OPINION, not legal advice.

FWIW..... I prefer https://handgunlaw.us/ , YMMV

[BN]

https://www.handgunlaw.us/states/northdakota.pdf

Looks like it.

[Norville]

North Dakota is permitless for residents only. I took a ccw class there and it was made clear.

[corneileous]

I am not aware of any provision in the new Texas law, effective 1-Sept, that would prohibit "constitutional carry" in Texas, by a resident of another state.

Full text here: https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Text.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB1927#

Summary text here: https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/BillSummary.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB1927
Emphasis is mine below.



I am not a lawyer. This is my OPINION, not legal advice.

FWIW..... I prefer https://handgunlaw.us/ , YMMV

Well, that’s kinda what it’s starting to sound like to me. That lady I talked to earlier over the phone at the licensing department doesn’t seem to know what she’s talking about when she said Texas’s new permitless carry/constitutional carry bill is only reserved to Texas residents.

I guess it really doesn’t matter as I’m just simply curious because I’ve already renewed my five-year carry permit.


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[corneileous]

I just came across this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/oilcity.news/wyoming/legislature/2021/04/07/wyoming-to-allow-nonresidents-to-conceal-carry-without-a-permit-starting-july-1/%3famp

…..and this.

https://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2020/03/signed-as-law-idaho-bill-to-expand-constitutional-carry-law/



It’s been some time now since
I read anything pertaining to it but when I read it, it talked about how even though Idaho and Wyoming were neighboring states who both were constitutional carry but it said that Wyoming residents had to have a state-issued permit to carry in Idaho and the same went for Idaho residents needing a permit to carry in Wyoming. According to those two articles above, a lot’s changed since then. They both say the word anyone…..


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[corneileous]

So what other constitutional carry states extend their permitless carry privileges to the other states that no longer require permission slips?


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[CleverNickname]

So what other constitutional carry states extend their permitless carry privileges to the other states that no longer require permission slips?
I don't think there's any states with legal unlicensed carry that specifically only allows non-residents to carry if their home state also allows unlicensed carry. It's either residents-only (in the states already mentioned) or residents of any state.

[Shawn Dodson]

Almost every state attorney general has a web page that present recipriocity information. All you have to do is Google "(State) attorney general concealed carry recipriocity information" for the state you're interested about.

[BN]

Have you looked at https://handgunlaw.us/ yet? I think it will have a lot of the information you're looking for.

[corneileous]

Have you looked at https://handgunlaw.us/ yet? I think it will have a lot of the information you're looking for.

I have, numerous times but am I to just take it for gospel and assume that every permitless or constitutional carry state extends their permitless carry to anyone who’s legally recognized to own and carry a gun except for North Dakota and from what I heard from some gal I talked to at the carry licensing department in Texas, or what a lady from the OSBI here in Oklahoma told me?

I guess I’m just really interested to hear it from the horses mouth from the people that live in the other constitutional carry states.


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[Rex G]

Gals in licensing departments are not lawyers. Just sayin’.

[AKDoug]

So what other constitutional carry states extend their permitless carry privileges to the other states that no longer require permission slips?


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All constitutional carry states other than North Dakota allow concealed carry by non-residents.

[corneileous]

Gals in licensing departments are not lawyers. Just sayin’.


You are right but wouldn’t you at least expect them a little bit to know something about that?

I guess I could resort to calling up Texas and Oklahoma highway patrol requesting to talk to an officer but they’re not lawyers either so do I not trust what they have to say as well?


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[corneileous]

All constitutional carry states other than North Dakota allow concealed carry by non-residents.

And where are you getting this from, that handgunlaw.us or whatever it is?


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[vcdgrips]

Corn...

The answer to your question has been linked to at least twice given the statutes embedded within said links

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[corneileous]

Corn...

The answer to your question has been linked to at least twice given the statutes embedded within said links

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210903/2a7a80fc51f8133e8c6bb7741d66fcc7.jpg
We really could’ve done without your consistent need to be sarcastic but OK, I guess case closed, then. I guess since there was at least two point-outs towards the same web page out of all the other gun laws sites that this is it, we all have the answer with no other need to search further, correct? [emoji106] Which is fine, I have no problem with that site having the answers- if they’re true… I say that because I found out the other day that the United States Concealed Carry Association says that Oklahoma gives those gun-free zones signs the weight of the law and they don’t so, put yourself in my shoes.


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[vcdgrips]

Who is we? You got a mouse in your pocket?

You ask questions which clearly reveal that you’ve not done the work. You get answers from people who clearly have. Then you continue to ask questions in what about, what about that manner.

V.

“Hey guys, I looked at the North Dakota or Oklahoma or Texas etc. statutes on concealed carry at statute number fill in the blank. After reading it for about 15 or 20 minutes I still am not sure I understand it. Is anybody familiar with the statute and am I reading it the right way?”

[corneileous]

Who is we? You got a mouse in your pocket?

So you got two likes on your sarcastic post. Big deal. I’m sure not everybody finds humor in some of your posts.


You ask questions which clearly reveal that you’ve not done the work. You get answers from people who clearly have. Then you continue to ask questions in what about, what about that manner.
What “work” are you blabbering about, it’s a website. I’ve looked at lots of sites on gun laws and excuse me but I’m still a little confused. It’s just a reference to a site, that’s it.


“Hey guys, I looked at the North Dakota or Oklahoma or Texas etc. statutes on concealed carry at statute number fill in the blank. After reading it for about 15 or 20 minutes I still am not sure I understand it. Is anybody familiar with the statute and am I reading it the right way?”
Why are you even here? You’re clearly not here to help, that’s for sure.

But besides… even if I made it look that way, that’s not necessarily what I’m asking because all I want to know is which states extend their permitless carry to either every legal carrier or just specific residents from specific states. Yes, two people have referred to the same site- those people have been helpful…. You on the other hand, as usual, have not but you still feel the need to troll every now and then.


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[HeavyDuty]

A few weeks ago I wondered why you were on my ignore list and took you off. I guess I know why.

[corneileous]

A few weeks ago I wondered why you were on my ignore list and took you off. I guess I know why.

LOL…. For what, responding to mr Grips sarcastic and borderline hateful posts? Well if it makes you feel better then just click the ole ignore button but just so you know whether you care or not, I’m really not here to cause trouble but uh, certain responses from certain members really could go unsaid.

How did little Thumper on Bambi put it…. If ya can’t say nothin’ nice…..


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[AKDoug]

And where are you getting this from, that handgunlaw.us or whatever it is?

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I read the state's statutes.