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jc000
08-11-2021, 04:45 PM
So I'm interested in suppressing a couple handguns (stock sight heights) and a couple PCCs, all 9mm. I think I'm becoming a fan of caliber-specific cans rather than all-rounders as I appreciate the optimal form factor for the specific host.

I have a TurboK which is amazing, so I'm considering the R9 pretty seriously. Admittedly, the price point is attractive. The wolf man has been highly recommended to me, but it seems a little too one-size-fits-all. And it's out of stock at Hansohn Brothers. I've also been recommended the Omega.

Rugged could be a contender.

I'd be curious to hear from any R9 owners and other 9mm silencer recommendations. My desired characteristics are durability, size, suppression, and price, in that order.

WDR
08-11-2021, 05:10 PM
So I'm interested in suppressing a couple handguns (stock sight heights) and a couple PCCs, all 9mm. I think I'm becoming a fan of caliber-specific cans rather than all-rounders as I appreciate the optimal form factor for the specific host.

I have a TurboK which is amazing, so I'm considering the R9 pretty seriously. Admittedly, the price point is attractive. The wolf man has been highly recommended to me, but it seems a little too one-size-fits-all. And it's out of stock at Hansohn Brothers. I've also been recommended the Omega.

Rugged could be a contender.

I'd be curious to hear from any R9 owners and other 9mm silencer recommendations. My desired characteristics are durability, size, suppression, and price, in that order.

The R9 is a bit larger diameter, being primarily intended for SMG/PCC use, and not handguns, according to YHM. It's going to obscure pistol sights a bit more than others intended for handguns.

I don't have direct experience with the R9 or other pistol cans ( I'm an NFA noob, with a Turbo K as well), so I can't comment otherwise.

jc000
08-11-2021, 05:17 PM
Yes I agree that it appears more subgun specific… which could potentially work well for me. But I'd like that handgun option.

Magsz
08-11-2021, 06:07 PM
The R9 is over built for handgun use.

I would look elsewhere.

It certainly will work just fine on a handgun but given how much lead deposits in centerfire pistol caliber cans, I would want something that I can disassemble and clean.

Having said that, my buddy is running an R9 on a G19 without any real issues although it does get kinda sluggish after a few magazines.

jc000
08-11-2021, 07:18 PM
Good points. But I am thinking 80-90% PCC is probably realistic. Thank you.

TGS
08-13-2021, 11:34 PM
So you want some platform specific cans, jc000? :cool:

Do you have an MP5 with a tri-lug mount?

Because I have a GSL Phoenix, but no MP5....just haven't gotten around to buying one yet. I'm in Virginia for the next week before I head back out overseas if you want to meet at ESS or even Peacemaker and test drive it on your host....or my Mk12/AEM-5 combo.

jc000
08-14-2021, 10:32 PM
I got an SP5 and APC9K with tri-lug mounts. Let's do it!

Default.mp3
08-15-2021, 02:04 AM
Just from my experience, Rugged has excellent customer service. They replaced an endcap of mine that had been nicked (new shooter playing with my suppressed handgun), free of charge, and also worked with me to diagnose some accuracy issues I was having with my CZ Evo with the can attached (long story short, it wasn't the can's fault). I personally would consider Rugged for any further suppressors that wouldn't be well-served by a SureFire option.

I currently own a Rugged Obsidian45 (only because they didn't have the 9 when I first bought the 45) and the Oculus22, along with multiple SureFire centerfired rifle cans. The Obsidian currently sits permanently on my CZ Evo with a 9mm endcap, Oculus22 on my CP33.

Squib308
08-24-2021, 02:07 PM
I’m mostly into rifle and rimfire suppressors so I don’t have a ton of experience w pistol suppressors. my 1 pistol can is a rugged obsidian 9 and I’m very happy with it. Definitely recommend. Hansohn brothers make an obsidian tool to make disassembly easier. I’ve got an R9 in jail right now with plans to use it with a 3 lug for PCC’s.

jc000
08-26-2021, 12:52 PM
I’m mostly into rifle and rimfire suppressors so I don’t have a ton of experience w pistol suppressors. my 1 pistol can is a rugged obsidian 9 and I’m very happy with it. Definitely recommend. Hansohn brothers make an obsidian tool to make disassembly easier. I’ve got an R9 in jail right now with plans to use it with a 3 lug for PCC’s.

Why did you decide to go with the R9 as opposed to just using your Rugged? And why not another Rugged if you just wanted "dedicated" cans? Just curious!

msstate56
08-27-2021, 07:11 PM
I have used an R9 on a G19, 9mm PCC, .223, and .308 Win. It is a very quiet can with subsonic 9mm. You can get multiple attachments (pistol booster, direct thread, QD, etc) and so far they all have worked well. It actually suppresses the 223 and 308 (16” barrels) better than I expected. As was mentioned, it is a bit bigger in diameter, so taller sights (or a red dot) are necessary on a pistol.

Squib308
08-28-2021, 07:35 AM
Why did you decide to go with the R9 as opposed to just using your Rugged? And why not another Rugged if you just wanted "dedicated" cans? Just curious!

I wanted a larger diameter can for PCC use specifically on the CZ scorpion. The R9 price is amazing so I couldn’t say no. AFAIK the R9 is not user serviceable so we’ll see how the baffle fouling goes over time. I figure if that was a problem it would be well known by now so I’m not too worried. Plus the DA wolfman is similar design and holds up fine.

None of the pistol cans seem super quiet to me. I’ve become a collector of rimfire and rifle cans because they work so damn well, but pistol cans I’m 50/50 on. The griffin resistance was also on the list for me and I may get one in 45 if the price is right.

TGS
09-20-2021, 12:53 PM
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Squib308
12-08-2021, 04:50 AM
My R9 just got released from NFA jail. Feels and looks great. Currently have it direct threaded to my cz scorpion evo. Waiting on a YHM 3 lug mount for the R9. This can is just begging to be 3 lugged. Will provide a range report once I can get out and shoot it, although if looking for a sub-gun larger diameter 9mm can it looks like a winner. The only “concern” I have is cleaning, as the R9 is not user serviceable. I may occasionally “clean” the can be running 5.56 or .308 through it.

Squib308
12-20-2021, 10:42 PM
3 range trips with the R9 on the cz scorpion pistol. Initially ran it DT but now it’s 3 lugged. Very impressed by the performance. This is my first non-serviceable 9mm suppressor and I’m wondering how it’s going to be maintained over long term. Regardless I’m happy with the performance. Compared to my obsidian 9 in full length setup it’s just a smidge louder (running fiocchi 9APE 158 gr). For the price tag the R9 seems like an obvious choice.

HeavyDuty
02-25-2023, 10:19 PM
3 range trips with the R9 on the cz scorpion pistol. Initially ran it DT but now it’s 3 lugged. Very impressed by the performance. This is my first non-serviceable 9mm suppressor and I’m wondering how it’s going to be maintained over long term. Regardless I’m happy with the performance. Compared to my obsidian 9 in full length setup it’s just a smidge louder (running fiocchi 9APE 158 gr). For the price tag the R9 seems like an obvious choice.

How are you liking your R9 now that you’ve had it awhile? I’m considering one for 9mm SBR use.

Squib308
02-25-2023, 10:30 PM
How are you liking your R9 now that you’ve had it awhile? I’m considering one for 9mm SBR use.

It is excellent. I am using a YHM 3 lug mount. Zero complaints.

HeavyDuty
02-25-2023, 11:06 PM
It is excellent. I am using a YHM 3 lug mount. Zero complaints.

Your comment here plus a review where a person had issues with a KeyMicro mount on their R9 resulting in a non warranty can repair has me thinking about the same. ILWT even makes MPX taper three lugs.

Thanks!

Squib308
02-25-2023, 11:14 PM
Your comment here plus a review where a person had issues with a KeyMicro mount on their R9 resulting in a non warranty can repair has me thinking about the same. ILWT even makes MPX taper three lugs.

Thanks!

My YHM suppressors (R9, turbo k, resonator k) get more use than anything else. Their compact size and excellent value really won me over. YHM’s center fire rifle taper mount system is poorly understood by many folks including YouTube users, but works very well. The lock is created by the tapers not the ratcheting, which serves as a secondary lock system to prevent the can from walking off. If the YHM cans offered a removable endcap they would be perfect IMO.

After past 3 years of suppressor use, I’ve come to conclusion that 99% cases of suppressor damage is human error. Any suppressor I mount is going to be aligned, properly tightened and periodically checked. One cannot assume projectile stability especially when loading heavy for caliber.

I think you’ll be happy with the R9. The only reason to pick something else is you plan to run it on a pistol at all.

HeavyDuty
02-26-2023, 11:11 AM
Thanks, Squib308 - you tipped me over the edge. Your experience combined with my friend’s has convinced me that I would be best served with a R9 on three lugs for my 9mm SBRs. I went ahead and ordered three lugs from ILWT and found a good price on the YHM three lug adapter, and will wait and see if there are any deals next weekend at the suppressor event I’m attending - although at $420 I doubt I’d see much additional off that.

How did you attach your three lugs - Rocksett? Did you use shims at all? Which three lug did you use for your Scorpion? Mine has a 1/2x28 threaded HBI K barrel, I can’t see replacing it with their three lug version so I ordered one from ILWT.

The wait is really gonna suck… thank you for your advice!

HeavyDuty
02-28-2023, 03:34 PM
Capitol Armory was even less, so I bought one today in store. Now I wait…

HeavyDuty
04-07-2023, 07:14 AM
A tidbit I picked up from talking to YHM staff at the shoot in Austin - you want the newer HD version of their three lug mount for the R9. They didn’t go into details about what was wrong with the older version beyond stating it wasn’t being made anymore and they were using the HD version for warranty replacements. I had an unused older one, and they sent me a new one to replace it. I need to find my scale but my perception is that the new version is slightly heavier.