Reloading for S&W M&P 2.0 9mm

[Leroy]

Recently picked up a 5" S&W M&P 2.0 9mm. I have tried 2 different loads with it;
SNS 125 gr. RN, 4.3 gr HP38
BBI 125 gr. TC, 4.3 gr. HP38

Both loads run about 1090-1100 fps. I am getting severe leading and the gun won't hold the A zone at 25 yards.

Can anyone reccomend a bullet that shoots well out of their M&P? Would prefer not to buy ammo but if someone has a reccomendation I will take it.

[45dotACP]

Recently picked up a 5" S&W M&P 2.0 9mm. I have tried 2 different loads with it;
SNS 125 gr. RN, 4.3 gr HP38
BBI 125 gr. TC, 4.3 gr. HP38

Both loads run about 1090-1100 fps. I am getting severe leading and the gun won't hold the A zone at 25 yards.

Can anyone reccomend a bullet that shoots well out of their M&P? Would prefer not to buy ammo but if someone has a reccomendation I will take it.

My brother picked up a 2.0 as well and the thing won't hold an A zone at 25 yards regardless of ammo type used. Next move is to pick up a replacement barrel. I'd heard smith had repaired this bug, but they've apparently snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

[sickeness]

I've run the 2.0 with a stock barrel for quite some time and can easily hold all black on a B8 at 25 yards.

The load I have been using primarily is 6.1 Power Pistol behind a 115gr FMJ

[Spartan1980]

Are you by chance using a Lee factory crimp die? I've shot many thousands through all of my M&Ps and never gotten any measurable leading. I've also heard many people report results just like yours that were resizing the loaded bullet down in size by using that Lee die which is sized specifically for use with jacketed bullets. Make sure your aren't reducing the bullet diameter after seating in your reloading process and use .356" or even .357" diameter bullets when not jacketed.

[Leroy]

Are you by chance using a Lee factory crimp die? I've shot many thousands through all of my M&Ps and never gotten any measurable leading. I've also heard many people report results just like yours that were resizing the loaded bullet down in size by using that Lee die which is sized specifically for use with jacketed bullets. Make sure your aren't reducing the bullet diameter after seating in your reloading process and use .356" or even .357" diameter bullets when not jacketed.
I am not. Actually I am not a fan of the Lee factory crimp die (I've used one). I think it is more useful as a case gauge than anything else.

[Leroy]

I've run the 2.0 with a stock barrel for quite some time and can easily hold all black on a B8 at 25 yards.

The load I have been using primarily is 6.1 Power Pistol behind a 115gr FMJ

What brand of 115 FMJ are using?

[chances R]

i've used various bullets, but now use PC 147 gr bullets almost exclusively as well as the FCD.....no problems of any kind with at least 6 different M&Ps 1.0 and 2.0.

[sickeness]

What brand of 115 FMJ are using?

I don't recall as I bought like 10k of them a few years back, I believe they are montana gold but I cannot be sure.
In general though, this load will shoot in pretty much any gun, although it is a bit loud and snappy.

I did more research and nosler actually has it listed as their most accurate 9mm 115gr loading.

https://www.nosler.com/9mm-luger-parabellum

[Leroy]

Montana Gold is my typical go to for jacketed bullets but they are out of stock. They do shoot great in anything I have shot them through.

[mmc45414]

While I do not have any specific 25yd accuracy test results, I have been shooting coated 147g bullets in my 5" M&P with seemingly good results. I think coated bullets with a encapsulated base makes sense in 9mm.

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[Trooper224]

Try upsizing your bullets, any manufacturer will do it on request. I had to go up to a .358 in my Berettas when shooting lead.

[willie]

Check out these folks:

http://hoosierbullets.com

They offer at least one bullet in .357 diameter. Also, consider buying a Lyman M die for expanding cases.

[rca90gsx]

Have you used these loads in other pistols? What does the crimp measure on a finished round.

[Leroy]

Have you used these loads in other pistols? What does the crimp measure on a finished round.

I have, I just looked at the pictures, the M&P is shooting at around 5-6" (I exaggerated in my initial post, had the group been centered it would have held the USPSA A zone just barely). The G34 is putting these loads into 3".

I already know the bore is on the large size. I shot the SNS and it leaded pretty bad, I cleaned it and then on a separate range trip shot the BBI bullets. The first few shots almost made me laugh, I could see the gas and a little flame leaving the barrel and a lot of smoke. I have shot coated bullets through a lot of guns, a few guns that did not particular like them, but the gas and flame throwing was a new one. In 10 rounds the muzzle looked like it was growing lead petals.

I found 100 125 gr. HAP bullets laying around, but they are .356 jacketed, which I didn't realize until I loaded up about 50 of them with 4.3 grains of HP38. I will need to load some lighter powder charges and see if I can work up to the 4.3 grains. Never shot .356 jacketed out of a 9 I don't want to blow it up. I will report back in this thread, but I will need another week before I can get to the range.

[ViniVidivici]

I too love Montana Gold, shot thousands 9ver the years.

I've found that the X-Treme 124gr plated HP to be an extremely accurate, and cheap, bullet.

Excellent performance over 4.2gr Titegroup in our Glocks.

[Leroy]

Got busy and was night able to make it to the range until today. Had some 115 UMC and 147 gr HST. HST 5 round groups ran 3-4" and UMC had some tight 4 round groups at 2-3" but I alway had flier which I called typically on the first round ( me not use to the gun). With the consistent flier UMC was about 5-6" but I think it was me. All groups standing at 25 yards.

Much improved over the previous loads I had tried.

All in all I think this gun will shoot jacketed just fine. Need to score some Montana Gold or Zero bullets.

[GJM]

Might be ultimately more economical and satisfying to just put in an Apex barrel as they shoot everything I have tried better than the oem barrel.

[GJM]

Just for fun, using my 5 inch CORE practice gun with an Apex barrel, at 22 yards I shot 5 rounds of 124 AE, 5 rounds of 115 Lawman, 5 rounds of 124 Syntech and 5 rounds of Belom. This was the composite group.

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[newyork]

Just for fun, using my 5 inch CORE practice gun with an Apex barrel, at 22 yards I shot 5 rounds of 124 AE, 5 rounds of 115 Lawman, 5 rounds of 124 Syntech and 5 rounds of Belom. This was the composite group.

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George, did you have to fit your Apex bbl at all or did it drop in?

[Leroy]

147 gr HST 5rd
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115 gr UMC 5rd, I called the first shot left, did that on 2 different groups that looked identical.
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I have some 124 gr Precision Delta jacketed coming

Also have an Apex barrel in the cart but they are out of stock for the file to fit it. Will hold off on that for now and see if I can get some better results with some more trigger time.

[GJM]

George, did you have to fit your Apex bbl at all or did it drop in?

Gunsmith fit

[SecondsCount]

I shot thousands of 155 grain traditional lead bullets thru my M&P40 1.0 using Ramshot Silhouette and had zero issues with leading, and was surprisingly clean.

Fast forward about 10 years and a friend bought a 9mm Shield. He was having leading issues with 124 grain bullets. I told him to try Ramshot Silhouette and he said that his problems went away.

I'm currently running a 135 grain TC Blue bullet with a light load of Clay Dot and will have to check the accuracy in the 9C 2.0. 124 HP Precision Delta shoot pretty well from what I remember but the last time I shot it was pre 'rona.