Vuurwapen HMC9 Glock 43 (43x/48?) frame for P365 magazines

[HeavyDuty]

I just got an update about these from Omaha Outdoors, I had forgotten about them. I thought we had discussed them here, but search isn’t finding much. I do like the idea of ten rounds in a shorter grip, the 43X/48 isn’t much favorite grip in the world.

LittleLebowski , weren’t you expressing interest in these?

[Doc_Glock]

Linking to product (I think) at Omaha Outdoors. How innovative!


https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/vuurwapen-hmc9-80-hybrid-micro-compact-frame/

Vuurwapen HMC9 80% Hybrid Micro Compact Frame
Product #: 129796 Condition: Factory New MPN: HMC980FR UPC: 760354813755 MFG: Vuurwapen (https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/vuurwapen/)
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Product Description The innovative Vuurwapen HMC9 80% frame bridges the gap between the customization possibilities of Glock 43 and the robust capacity of a SIG P365. This premiere Hybrid Micro Compact 9 frame completely revolutionizes the pistol platform by allowing you use the P365 magazine release and 10 or 15 round magazines with your Glock 43 trigger and upper slide, creating a one of a kind pistol that accepts the Glock aftermarket parts you rely on while delivering the high magazine capacity you require.

[Doc_Glock]

Found another non 80% lower. Appears to be vapor ware currently.

https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/vuurwapen-hmc9-stripped-frame-serialized/


Pre-orders will start on July 4, 2021. Order a Vuurwapen HMC9 frame and get FREE shipping. Estimated ship date is December 2021.
Groundbreaking in design and versatility, the serialized Vuurwapen HMC9 stripped frame is innovation at its finest. The stripped Vuurwapen HMC9 serialized frame must be shipped to an FFL and will require a 4473 background check. It’s made of heat resistant polymer, comes with the front and rear rails installed, has an integrated Picatinny rail, and includes the proprietary HMC9 slide stop/release lever. No jig or any drilling/filing is required to complete your new one of a kind pistol. Just install your Glock 43 upper and trigger, add a SIG P365 magazine, and you have a 9mm everyday carry sidearm with unrivaled cross-brand compatibility.
Vuurwapen HMC9 Stripped Frame (Serialized): HMC9SFR – 760354813809
Vuurwapen HMC9 Stripped Frame (Serialized) With Glock 43 Locking Block: HMC9SFR-G43LB – 760354814042
Vuurwapen HMC9 Stripped Frame (Serialized) With Glock 43 Locking Block + Two P365 10RD Flush Magazines: HMC9SFR-G43LB-2P365MAG

[JCN]

Doc_Glock

I ordered one. Thanks for the link!

I don’t know what I’m going to do with it, though.

I guess my thinking is that it’s like a P365 with a trigger dongle?

More stuff that I’ll probably never use, but am curious enough to try out!

[john c]

I guess my thinking is that it’s like a P365 with a trigger dongle?

I think the real selling point is the ability to use a gadget, in addition to the trigger dongle.


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[OlongJohnson]

More generally, a Glock trigger, rather than an everything-else-striker cocked single-action trigger.

The only obvious pending issue I see is that if reliability is exactly the same as a G48, that may not be good enough based on some info that's been posted around here. Of course, reliability may not be as good as a G48. Or, I suppose it could be better.

I probably won't pre-order, although I have recently sold several compacts in the same size class but of much lower capacity.

[psalms144.1]

I hope these are successful, as a P365-sized pistol with Glock simplicity sounds and 10+1 sounds like a winner. I won't be a beta tester on this one, for sure, because we're going to try to jam a P365 mag under a G43 slide/barrel/ramp and expect it to work correctly? I'll hold your beer while you have fun with this one...

[JCN]

I think a lot of the fire has been taken away from this with the advent of the S15 magazine in a G43x frame.

Will be interesting. But I don’t see it replacing anything for my carry guns anytime soon.

[HeavyDuty]

I think a lot of the fire has been taken away from this with the advent of the S15 magazine in a G43x frame.

Will be interesting. But I don’t see it replacing anything for my carry guns anytime soon.

The grip length on this is more appealing to me than a G43x or 48 - but I’ll let others go first.

[CleverNickname]

It doesn't look like it, but I'm holding out hope that it will work with G43 holsters. If I have to buy a new holster too, I might as well just get a G43x.

[john c]

I don’t think the target market is G43X/G48 owners moving over to a P365 magazine.

But it’s a serious upgrade for existing G43 owners to get a higher capacity pistol.

Whether it works or not is a different question...


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[OlongJohnson]

More generally, a Glock trigger, rather than an everything-else-striker cocked single-action trigger.

The only obvious pending issue I see is that if reliability is exactly the same as a G48, that may not be good enough based on some info that's been posted around here. Of course, reliability may not be as good as a G48. Or, I suppose it could be better.

I probably won't pre-order, although I have recently sold several compacts in the same size class but of much lower capacity.

You can get higher-cap mags for the G48 that seem to be working OK. Besides the trigger and Gadget opportunity, my interest is driven mainly by the grip angle. (Yeah, I know, cry me a river.) But a bunch of different brands of pistol all index naturally and as near as matters to the same for me. Then I go to a Glock, and I'm chasing the front sight. Work with it; dry fire for a week and live fire. Still chasing the front sight. Pick up whatever other pistol was closest to the front of the safe, and it presents perfectly indexed the first time and every time. Try another, different brand. Same thing. Still chasing the front sight on the Glock. And the G48 is worse. I thought about it, and it seems that whatever work I had to put into making a Glock work as well for me as every other pistol works without doing any work would be better spent with one of those other pistols. But that's just me.

[Wonder9]

Neat, but solution in search of a problem in 2021.

[TicTacticalTimmy]

New article on the HMC9:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/07/23/glock-43-sig-p365-hybrid-vuurwapen-hmc9/

Still vaporware, but the website does have full pricing now. Price for a complete gun is pretty reasonable.

It looks like the magazines they are shipping with are P365 mags with a thicker baseplate, holding 11 rounds.

[JCN]

Update: with the Shadow Systems CR920 looking like a better mousetrap and the Shield mags also taking a chunk out of the customer base…

The Vuurwapen is still vaporware. They’ve had some updates saying that their 80% rail system didn’t hold up and it’ll be a few months yet in redesign.

I’m not sure what benefit there will be for this gun except for perhaps people who like the P365 grip angle better.

One thing I missed from the Facebook post is that for the delay they’re including (for free) a GenX frame for all G43 preorders that were affected.

It’s apparently a vertical grip G19 Glock frame that would actually interest me.

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[G19Fan]

Update: with the Shadow Systems CR920 looking like a better mousetrap and the Shield mags also taking a chunk out of the customer base…

The Vuurwapen is still vaporware. They’ve had some updates saying that their 80% rail system didn’t hold up and it’ll be a few months yet in redesign.

I’m not sure what benefit there will be for this gun except for perhaps people who like the P365 grip angle better.

One thing I missed from the Facebook post is that for the delay they’re including (for free) a GenX frame for all G43 preorders that were affected.

It’s apparently a vertical grip G19 Glock frame that would actually interest me.

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I too would be interested in a gen x frame...

[coob5]

This is an alternative to those waiting on the HMC9, https://blackphoenixcustoms.com/shadow-systems-cr920-complete-frame.html. This will allow your Glock to accept 10 round and 13 round mags.

[G19Fan]

This is an alternative to those waiting on the HMC9, https://blackphoenixcustoms.com/shadow-systems-cr920-complete-frame.html. This will allow your Glock to accept 10 round and 13 round mags.

One issue is it doesn't always run we with glock 43/43x/48 slides

[HeavyDuty]

Bumping this back up as a part of quest to reduce wrist pain. Did anyone ever get a HCM9 frame? Taking my 43 RDO and plopping all the working bits into a more vertical frame with higher capacity is very appealing. I sent them a question.

[EzGoingKev]

Bumping this back up as a part of quest to reduce wrist pain. Did anyone ever get a HCM9 frame? Taking my 43 RDO and plopping all the working bits into a more vertical frame with higher capacity is very appealing. I sent them a question.
AFAIK nothing has shipped.

Last I knew they were going to sell serialized frames. They were testing the guns more and had a failure of the metal insert where the trigger housing would install. They said they were going to redesign the part before releasing anything. That is the last I heard.

[HeavyDuty]

Ugh. Thanks, this may be a dead end.

P365 grip angle and capacity + Glock mechanical simplicity + SCD = win.

[JCN]

Bumping this back up as a part of quest to reduce wrist pain. Did anyone ever get a HCM9 frame? Taking my 43 RDO and plopping all the working bits into a more vertical frame with higher capacity is very appealing. I sent them a question.

Mine is still on order. Will let you know if anything happens with it.

I think there’s something to be said about the concept for people who like trigger dongle but don’t like manual safeties.

[HeavyDuty]

Mine is still on order. Will let you know if anything happens with it.

I think there’s something to be said about the concept for people who like trigger dongle but don’t like manual safeties.

I just look at the SIG’s FCU complexity compared to the glorified zip gun that is a Glock, and I know which I prefer.

[Brianjkeene]

AFAIK nothing has shipped.

Last I knew they were going to sell serialized frames. They were testing the guns more and had a failure of the metal insert where the trigger housing would install. They said they were going to redesign the part before releasing anything. That is the last I heard.


From my understanding, they decided to go from rails that weren't molded in to rails there were - in the name of reliability. They had some issues with reliability that they deemed to be driven from the rails. I'll see if I can find the message they put out regarding it. I still have hopes they will release it. However, I've settled back on a g26.5 as my EDC when I need to ensure I don't print.

[EzGoingKev]

From my understanding, they decided to go from rails that weren't molded in to rails there were - in the name of reliability. They had some issues with reliability that they deemed to be driven from the rails. I'll see if I can find the message they put out regarding it. I still have hopes they will release it. However, I've settled back on a g26.5 as my EDC when I need to ensure I don't print.
My info is from their instagram page. There is a pic of the broken part with them saying they need to do a redesign.

[Brianjkeene]

My info is from their instagram page. There is a pic of the broken part with them saying they need to do a redesign.

Yep, I just went back and looked.

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[HeavyDuty]

Anybody seen recent activity from Vuurwapen? Both of their announced frames (HMC9 and Gen X) have a lot of appeal as a way of dealing with my wrist issues, but I’m starting to wonder if they will ever become available.

[JCN]

Anybody seen recent activity from Vuurwapen? Both of their announced frames (HMC9 and Gen X) have a lot of appeal as a way of dealing with my wrist issues, but I’m starting to wonder if they will ever become available.

Vuurwaapen has been sketchy about details and progress and I’m thinking that it’s DOA.

I asked Omaha Outdoors for a refund and they came through with a mailed check and a written apology.

[HeavyDuty]

Has anyone heard anything from Vuurwapen?

[the_t0ny]

Has anyone heard anything from Vuurwapen?

I was contacted by Omaha Outdoors to verify my address on file so they could issue a refund. I had originally placed my order august of 2021. I called and asked if I could just stay on the pre-order but was told they’re issuing refunds to everyone due to the delay in the product being released.

[HeavyDuty]

I sent a message to Vuurwapen, I’ll report back with what they say.