Ruger LCP Max

[Doc_Glock]

It may have been discussed previously but a quick perusal of other forums and social media posts shows some chatter about these things shooting very low with the factory sights. One claim was about 8" @ 15yds.

Is the group seeing something similar or should I just write that off as most people being unable to diagnose their marksmanship past conversation distance?

I have thought this at times. But it was definitely me, not the gun.

[perlslacker]

It may have been discussed previously but a quick perusal of other forums and social media posts shows some chatter about these things shooting very low with the factory sights. One claim was about 8" @ 15yds.

Is the group seeing something similar or should I just write that off as most people being unable to diagnose their marksmanship past conversation distance?

I shot my dad's and POI was at the front sight dot, not the top of the front sight. I originally chalked it up to a flinch, but even after realizing no, this micro 380 is a good one and won't hurt you it still shot there.

Not my preference, but not a dealbreaker for a pocket gun IMO.

[Eric_L]

I shot my dad's and POI was at the front sight dot, not the top of the front sight. I originally chalked it up to a flinch, but even after realizing no, this micro 380 is a good one and won't hurt you it still shot there.

Not my preference, but not a dealbreaker for a pocket gun IMO.

Mine is also “drive the dot”. Quite a precise little gun.

[rjohnson4405]

Just got one yesterday, super impressed with the fit and finish especially knowing it's real similar to a keltec (or exact copy, I can't remember).

Got 300 rounds of 90 grain ball coming it to test some functionality and that's probably what I'll carry in it for now. Also a vedder light tuck aiwb holster coming in. The ruger pocket holster it came with seemed nice at first but keeps coming out with the gun so may need an upgrade there because it'll fit in my jackets great for the occasional pocket carry.

[The Captain]

Anyone have a decent AIWB holster for these? Preferably one with a DCC clip, or something like the DSG metal clip.

Harry's Holsters is releasing this new one called The Duke and the LCP Max is one of the models that this one is being designed for. https://harrysholsters.com/product/dirk/

I emailed them about it and Harrison said "We haven't launched it yet. Still waiting on some of the marketing material so that's why it isn't in the menus or easily accessible."

Think I will order one as soon as I get my LCP Max which will be in the next week or so. I already have a Boraii pocket holster ordered for it and it should arrive today.

[The Captain]

You are not alone. I’ve been looking for a LCP Max holster with DCC clips and haven’t really turned up much.

See my post #257 for a holster that should do the trick.

[rjohnson4405]

Snuck out between errands and the rain to run 50 rounds through this, I shoot it WAY better than the LCR and I actually kind of like the trigger. Has me interested in a full size Ruger actually but we'll see.

Here are my first 5 rounds with some PMC brass 90 Grain FMJ, I adjusted the 5th shot higher and I wish I didn't.
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It shoots to the dot and 10 and under, but WAY LOW at 25 it seems, like over a foot. Not really the purpose of the gun but if someone finds a better height front sight I'd be interested.

I've 250 more rounds of Lawman 95 Grain FMJ to test it with and that's probably what I'll carry in it for now. The Vedder Light Tuck is very nice and also got a galco pocket holster which is tight and being broken in. Still very impressed with the capacity and how much better I shoot it than the LCR. The LCR either going to get sold or be a snake only gun, I'm not sure which.

[The Captain]

While I posted about the new Dirk from Harrys Holsters for the Max, I decided to try this Compact IWB from Pyntek (https://pyntek.com/products/compact) for it and ordered the Dirk for my Glock 42. If I really prefer one holster over the other, then I will return it and get the one I like best for the other pistol.

I plan to head to the range this weekend with both to compare them and to see how the 75 Grain LFB from Carbon City that I got a few weeks ago runs through the Max as my Glock 42 did not like it. The G42 is not broken in but I had quite a few failures with the Carbon City ammo yet the 90 grain Federal ran fine.

I'll post my results this weekend.

[Doc_Glock]

My Max hits drive the dot at 3-5yards and transitions to top of front sight around 10
yards.

100 more trouble free rounds today.

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[4given]

FYI. Just bought a new MAX last week. Took it to the range Friday. Does not always fully return to battery when fired. Sometimes you can firmly push on the slide to get it to close, sometimes you have to smack it. When you ease the slide down on a chambered round it never completely returns to battery without a push. Called customer service this morning. They acknowledged that a small few have this problem and asked me to send it in.

[Alaskapopo]

I like my LCP because of the longer DAO trigger.

Longer and heavier is not what I want in a trigger.

[pastaslinger]

Has anyone tried stippling the LCP MAX? I am thinking about it but the walls are so thin...

[The Captain]

I held off purchasing the LCP Max last week as I just keep seeing the small issues and am hoping that Ruger fixes these with production changes as I don't really want to have to send it in. It seems to be hit or miss as some have no issues and others have slide and or magazine issues. I really want to get one and go shoot it but my confidence in their quality control is a bit low.

[4given]

I held off purchasing the LCP Max last week as I just keep seeing the small issues and am hoping that Ruger fixes these with production changes as I don't really want to have to send it in. It seems to be hit or miss as some have no issues and others have slide and or magazine issues. I really want to get one and go shoot it but my confidence in their quality control is a bit low.

Shipping mine back was fast & easy. I shipped March 29th and I just got notice today that is is on it's way back.

[The Captain]

Shipping mine back was fast & easy. I shipped March 29th and I just got notice today that is is on it's way back.

I agree that their customer service seems to be great as far as that goes but across four different forums I have read about these issues since it was released and it just seems that they would have been addressed through production changes by now. Yet I am still reading about new purchases being sent back.

I have a Sig P320c that was fortunately made after some productions changes and while I have an early Sig P365, I have not had any issues with it so might have still been produced after Sig made the changes. So I am just hoping that Ruger does the same as it there continues to be the same issues with LCP Max. I carry my Sig P365 as well as a Glock 42 but I'd really like to throw the LCP Max in the mix as it would be the most minimal gun I would feel comfortable carrying.

I may just wait until July and get one as a birthday gift to myself and if I get one that has issues then I will just go ahead and send it in but it would be nice to know that the have been fixed by that time.

[4given]

Got mine back from Ruger last week. A note from them said they replaced the slide & barrel, and fired 30 rounds of WW white box Flat nose with no failures.

I took it to the range and had the same failure to fully return to battery issues. Called customer service and sent it back. I hope they get right this time. .380 ammo is expensive.

[MandoWookie]

I agree that their customer service seems to be great as far as that goes but across four different forums I have read about these issues since it was released and it just seems that they would have been addressed through production changes by now. Yet I am still reading about new purchases being sent back.

I have a Sig P320c that was fortunately made after some productions changes and while I have an early Sig P365, I have not had any issues with it so might have still been produced after Sig made the changes. So I am just hoping that Ruger does the same as it there continues to be the same issues with LCP Max. I carry my Sig P365 as well as a Glock 42 but I'd really like to throw the LCP Max in the mix as it would be the most minimal gun I would feel comfortable carrying.

I may just wait until July and get one as a birthday gift to myself and if I get one that has issues then I will just go ahead and send it in but it would be nice to know that the have been fixed by that time.


One of the good thing about Ruger is they dont announce a product generally until they have production going to the point that they can have guns on store shelves while interest is still high.

The downside to this is that with high volume guns like the LCP Max, if there are production issues that are not caught before release, you then have a lot of product in circulation and being sold before manufacturing fixes can catch up.

So you will probably have problem guns show up for a while afterward an issue shows up.

[The Captain]

Got mine back from Ruger last week. A note from them said they replaced the slide & barrel, and fired 30 rounds of WW white box Flat nose with no failures.

I took it to the range and had the same failure to fully return to battery issues. Called customer service and sent it back. I hope they get right this time. .380 ammo is expensive.

Did you get it back yet? If not, how long did they have it the first time? I guess another question I have is the process of shipping a gun as I thought you had to have an FFL to do that if it is the whole thing versus just a part.

[4given]

Did you get it back yet? If not, how long did they have it the first time? I guess another question I have is the process of shipping a gun as I thought you had to have an FFL to do that if it is the whole thing versus just a part.

I have had it back to them twice now. Both times the turn around was about a week. The pistol is still not right. You don't need an FFL to send it back for repair. Customer Service provides a UPS shipping label.

[Highplains45]

Really wanted to like this pistol. Out of 150 rounds fired, the magazine (10 or 12 round) falls out every other shot. It is on it's way back to Ruger. Pulled out the G42 and it shot better, more reliably and with minimal recoil.

[pastaslinger]

My friend is offering to buy my LCP max and I'm considering it so I can buy another p365. On the one hand, I love that the max can conceal in virtually any pocket including coat chest pockets, and the weight + capacity are impressive. The downside is that I hate having to buy .380 just for this gun, it has been hard to find, and I probably trust the 365 series more if for no other reason than being able to test more ammo readily. Anyone with thoughts on what they would do here? Can the smallest config p365 overlap in this role?

[GearFondler]

Can the smallest config p365 overlap in this role?

For some, yes... For most, not really. As soon as you move up to 9mm it requires a thicker barrel and wider, heavier slide which translates to a whole lot more chunk in a pocket. The P365 will print more, carry less comfortably, and be much more difficult for most people to reliably draw without hanging up.

[pastaslinger]

For some, yes... For most, not really. As soon as you move up to 9mm it requires a thicker barrel and wider, heavier slide which translates to a whole lot more chunk in a pocket. The P365 will print more, carry less comfortably, and be much more difficult for most people to reliably draw without hanging up.

The thing is that I rarely pocket carry and if I do, it's a jacket hand pocket. I'm starting to wonder if it simply makes more sense to aiwb the p365 rather than occasionally have a gun I never practice with in a deep concealment position

[psalms144.1]

For me the issue with the P365 in the pocket role is weight. Loaded it's about 24 ounces - more than twice the weight of the LCP Max. For me, that means it will print, a lot, in thin "shorts" weight cloth - and require an actual belt to keep shorts from falling off my butt.

If you don't pocket carry, there's no reason to down gun, IMHO. I'd take the P365 all day every day over the LCP Max for a belt gun (IWB or OWB).

[The Captain]

My friend is offering to buy my LCP max and I'm considering it so I can buy another p365. On the one hand, I love that the max can conceal in virtually any pocket including coat chest pockets, and the weight + capacity are impressive. The downside is that I hate having to buy .380 just for this gun, it has been hard to find, and I probably trust the 365 series more if for no other reason than being able to test more ammo readily. Anyone with thoughts on what they would do here? Can the smallest config p365 overlap in this role?

When I want to carry my P365 now it feels like a an anchor compared to the weight of my G42 and the reason I am interested in the LCP Max is because it is is even lighter and a bit smaller. I'd love to carry my Sig P320 but I can't even imagine trying to conceal that thing and feel somewhat comfortable, so kudos to you guys that do carry larger ones. I am just getting spoiled with the weight of the G42 and I am sure I will be even happier with the weight and size of the LCP Max but just wish that I was not hearing the negatives that I still do after it being out as long as it has.

Again, I am sure I will get one this year and at least try it out but just wish I could feel 100% confident in it.

[The Captain]

I have had it back to them twice now. Both times the turn around was about a week. The pistol is still not right. You don't need an FFL to send it back for repair. Customer Service provides a UPS shipping label.

Sorry to hear that and that is what gives me pause as far as getting one. And thanks for letting me know about how it works when sending it in.

[4RNR]

Bought mine used and bought two extra 12rd mags with it. It's not a gun I shoot often but I haven't had a problem. Load, point, shoot. The only issue I find with it is it seems to be unnecessarily painful to shoot. I have the original LCP and that one is less so. And for some reason the Max slaps my the finger pad of my trigger finger. Bad enough that after 2 mags I'm sorry I brought it out to shoot. I have to be very careful where I put my finger. There is a sweet spot. However, function is 100%

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[MrInox]

Little over 100 rounds in and I’ve had no problems whatsoever. No sharp recoil, no trigger slap, no pain shooting it. It’s been 100% with 10 & 12 round mags. Accurate with underwood hardcast, Pmc ball and hornady XTP.

I had an Alabama pocket holster made for it and intend to carry it.

[psalms144.1]

What's the weight on one of these critters loaded with 10+1? Just trying to get an apples-to-apples comparison with my current pocket gun.

Thanks!

[Doc_Glock]

What's the weight on one of these critters loaded with 10+1? Just trying to get an apples-to-apples comparison with my current pocket gun.

Thanks!

LCP MAX loaded with 10+1 = 14.1 oz

It's lighter than a loaded 340PD(14.4), LCR 22(15.7), LCR 38(16.2), Glock 42(16.3) and 44, and way lighter than a 642(17.1), Kahr PM9(19.5) or LCR 9mm(19.0) and way way lighter than a G43(21.8) or G26(27.3).

It's light.

The only loaded guns I have found lighter are the NAA mini revolver (8.0oz), LCP 22(12.0), LCP 380(12.2), SW 43C(12.4), and Beretta Bobcat (13.9). And none of them hold 10+1 rounds.

[JEC]

What's the weight on one of these critters loaded with 10+1? Just trying to get an apples-to-apples comparison with my current pocket gun.

Thanks!

This is what I came up with on my postal scale:

S&W 442 w/ Crimson Trace boot grips / 5 rounds of Speer 135gr. Gold Dot 17 oz.

Glock 43 w/ flush magazine / 7 rounds of Federal 147gr HST 21.6 oz.

Sig P365 w/ pinky extension magazine / 11 rounds of Federal 147gr HST 23.8 oz.

Ruger LCPII w/ flush magazine / 7 rounds of Double Tap 95gr JHP 13.1 oz.

Ruger LCP-MAX w/ flush magazine / 11 rounds of CCI 95gr. FMJ 14.6 oz.

[Tokarev]

Ruger sets a new standard:

https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/articles/review-lcp-max-from-ruger-nzSAfxmnATEm1BqJ/

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[evi1joe]

I saw Rhett Neumayer of Demonstrated Concepts point out that when he shot the LCP MAX one handed, the magazine would fall out (and he never made it through a whole mag without it happening).

Today, I found that the same thing happened to me if I shoot one-handed, BUT I also had to hold the gun a bit looser than normal. I'm sure he's holding it tightly but his is still dropping mags.

Can anyone else duplicate this? Any ideas on what's happening to cause this?

[feudist]

Did he shoot it left hand only? That would isolate an ergonomic problem.

[Moped]

I’ve had my LCP MAX since last Summer and it’s become my primary carry, either in my pocket with a DeSantis Nemesis holster, a Targa IWB holster for a G42 or kydex OWB holster. I moved over from a S&W 442. I found I shot them both very well, but opted for the Max of the 442, because of weight, capacity and concealibilty. So far, it has had 300 flawless rounds through it, using a variety of FMJ. and Legend 80gr CU JHPs. My only complaint so far is the same one that Doc Glock had about the trigger finger pad being pinched during recoil and I think he solved that. Looks like I will be replacing the trigger, now. 🙂

[Tokarev]

XS Big Dots now available.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2022/05/25/xs-sights-offerings-springfield-ruger/

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[Doc_Glock]

I have forgotten to update:

I got the max up just over 2000 rounds. I don’t clean it. I carry it in the pocket constantly. It has not failed to go bang in the past 300 rounds since swapping the recoil spring.

I’m convinced and it is my primary pocket carry.

Just change the recoil spring every 1500 rounds or so.

[37th Mass]

LCP MAX loaded with 10+1 = 14.1 oz

It's lighter than a loaded 340PD(14.4), LCR 22(15.7), LCR 38(16.2), Glock 42(16.3) and 44, and way lighter than a 642(17.1), Kahr PM9(19.5) or LCR 9mm(19.0) and way way lighter than a G43(21.8) or G26(27.3).

It's light.

The only loaded guns I have found lighter are the NAA mini revolver (8.0oz), LCP 22(12.0), LCP 380(12.2), SW 43C(12.4), and Beretta Bobcat (13.9). And none of them hold 10+1 rounds.

This Ruger is pretty tempting as a replacement to my J-Frame for pocket carry. My M442 with a Titanium cylinder and Crimson Trace LG-405 laser grips weighs 14.5 oz loaded with Hornady 110gr +P ammo.

An LCP Max with a LaserMax laser would weight 14.6 oz loaded. That would make the LCP Max/LaserMax combo just 0.1 oz heavier but with six more shots, albeit of .380 instead of .38 SPCL +P.

I prefer the Crimson Trace laser activation of just gripping the gun vice the LaserMax index finger switch. Still, it is very tempting.

Doc's sticky on BUG's: .380 ACP vs. .38 Sp (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?4336-BUG-s-380-ACP-vs-38-Sp) is almost 10 years old now. I wonder if the difference in ammo development since then has tipped the scales from a 5-shot J-Frame toward a high-capacity .380?

[Warped Mindless]

Got another MAX today and unfortunately it will be going back to Ruger.

Cleaned, lube, inspected, and used multiple mags, and yet the first round refuses to go into battery unless you give the rear of the slide a good smack. Usually works fine for the rest of the mag but I’m not very happy with it.

My LCP 2 continues to work amazingly well as does my other MAX.

[willie]

Got another MAX today and unfortunately it will be going back to Ruger.

Cleaned, lube, inspected, and used multiple mags, and yet the first round refuses to go into battery unless you give the rear of the slide a good smack. Usually works fine for the rest of the mag but I’m not very happy with it.

My LCP 2 continues to work amazingly well as does my other MAX.

My two original issue LCP's did that. I replaced the recoil spring with a heavier one as I shoot Buffalo Bore so called +p ammo in them. Heavier springs resolved the issue and made the little pistols more pleasant to shoot. I think Ruger uses a lighter spring for ease of retracting the slide.

[Warped Mindless]

My two original issue LCP's did that. I replaced the recoil spring with a heavier one as I shoot Buffalo Bore so called +p ammo in them. Heavier springs resolved the issue and made the little pistols more pleasant to shoot. I think Ruger uses a lighter spring for ease of retracting the slide.

Thanks for the tip. I found a 13lbs one I’m going to order.

[psalms144.1]

I received mine from GT Distributors last week. To say it's a disappointment is an understatement. Rattles like a maraca, trigger is about 11 pounds, shoots patterns (6-8" - not even minute of pie plate) and driving the dot sight shoots 5-6" low at 10 yards.

Not sure if these are problems with the pistol, or it's just a cheap ass Ruger. I'll probably jump through the hoops to have it sent back to Ruger after I get back from my next trip.

[LockedBreech]

I received mine from GT Distributors last week. To say it's a disappointment is an understatement. Rattles like a maraca, trigger is about 11 pounds, shoots patterns (6-8" - not even minute of pie plate) and driving the dot sight shoots 5-6" low at 10 yards.

Not sure if these are problems with the pistol, or it's just a cheap ass Ruger. I'll probably jump through the hoops to have it sent back to Ruger after I get back from my next trip.

I think you may have a lemon, psalms, hate to say. Mine has minimal rattle and the trigger is in the 5-6 range. Accuracy isn't target pistol but it shouldn't be that rough. Might be worth a call to Ruger.

[Doc_Glock]

I received mine from GT Distributors last week. To say it's a disappointment is an understatement. Rattles like a maraca, trigger is about 11 pounds, shoots patterns (6-8" - not even minute of pie plate) and driving the dot sight shoots 5-6" low at 10 yards.

Not sure if these are problems with the pistol, or it's just a cheap ass Ruger. I'll probably jump through the hoops to have it sent back to Ruger after I get back from my next trip.

Sorry to hear that. I like mine enough to use for pocket/ankle carry at this point.

[Highplains45]

My MAX is back from Ruger with a new frame. Magazines now stay in the gun w/out a hitch. The trigger is dramatically better. Not to be fired at 25 yards as those groups, more like patterns, are rather large. For a special treat, shoot a Glock 42 right after shooting the Max. I like the capacity of the Max but prefer the accuracy and control of the Glock.

[LockedBreech]

When the fiancee and I went out last week, just for kicks, I shot my 2010-vintage first-gen LCP that I carried for 12 years next to my new Max. The improvement is genuinely dramatic. Setting aside improved capacity, I'd have accepted the same capacity even, the improvement is the SIGHT. I knew it would be an improvement, but the Max is actually decently aimable at self-defense distances.

It's still a micro .380, I won't allow myself delusions about it, but I feel that I have a much higher chance of actually using the Max in a way other than point blank spray and pray.

Both the 10 and 12 round magazines ran well with 90-grain Hornady Critical Defense, as well as with 90-grain Speer Gold Dot, 95-grain American Eagle, and even about a dozen 10+ year old 102-grain Remington Golden Sabers.

My sample of one is, so far, a winner.

[awp_101]

I’m working a deal that will see my 442 going to a family member and I’ve been considering a .38 LCR as it’s replacement for the rare times I pocket carry. After skimming through this thread, I’m wondering if the LCP Max might be a better option.

If I’m already needing to buy support gear and quality defensive ammunition, does either one make more sense?

[LockedBreech]

I’m working a deal that will see my 442 going to a family member and I’ve been considering a .38 LCR as it’s replacement for the rare times I pocket carry. After skimming through this thread, I’m wondering if the LCP Max might be a better option.

If I’m already needing to buy support gear and quality defensive ammunition, does either one make more sense?

I think that just brings you around to the thousands of pages of .38 vs. .380 for pocket carry. A heady debate.

I land on .380 because 5 rounds just isn't enough for me to feel comfortable and I'm not an experienced enough revolver shooter to use speedloaders or speed strips well under pressure. I fully acknowledge .38 is a load that can achieve the FBI protocol quite well with the Speer and Winchester loads, and shot-for-shot is more much desirable. However, my LCP max gives me 23 rounds (10+1 in gun, 12 in reload) and for me it's the choice. That's more than quadruple the ammo in a package that carries smaller, and while it's .380 Auto, it's not exactly .22LR, .380 might not be duty-spec but it's nothing to sneeze at.

That said, the .38 LCR is a gun I have always found underrated. Great trigger, very point shootable. I briefly owned both the 642 and the LCR and the LCR was my clear preference.

I think until they manufacture, market, and widely distribute a middle-ground caliber that gives .380 size but FBI-protocol performance, you're stuck in the same personal choice we all are for pocket carry, to wit: a small number of FBI-protocol capable rounds or a much larger amount of pretty-good-but-less-than-ideal rounds. I've been pocket carrying .380 Auto for nearly 13 years and I'll say freely that's still a very difficult decision sometimes.

[Clusterfrack]

I received mine from GT Distributors last week. To say it's a disappointment is an understatement. Rattles like a maraca, trigger is about 11 pounds, shoots patterns (6-8" - not even minute of pie plate) and driving the dot sight shoots 5-6" low at 10 yards.

Not sure if these are problems with the pistol, or it's just a cheap ass Ruger. I'll probably jump through the hoops to have it sent back to Ruger after I get back from my next trip.

Well, that is a bummer... and a great example of why I don't buy anything from Ruger* that hasn't been out for at least 3-5 years.

*and most manufacturers in general.

[LockedBreech]

Well, that is a bummer... and a great example of why I don't buy anything from Ruger* that hasn't been out for at least 3-5 years.

*and most manufacturers in general.

Totally agree with this principle. I think the LCP Max is the only time I've violated it in recent memory.

I want the 4.6" M&P 10mm so, so much, but it came out in November 2021, so I'm stuck just forlornly looking into the distance until mid-late 2023.

Unless Glock comes out with a Gen 5 G20, in which case I'm stuck forlornly looking into the distance until 2024.

[4RNR]

I received mine from GT Distributors last week. To say it's a disappointment is an understatement. Rattles like a maraca, trigger is about 11 pounds, shoots patterns (6-8" - not even minute of pie plate) and driving the dot sight shoots 5-6" low at 10 yards.

Not sure if these are problems with the pistol, or it's just a cheap ass Ruger. I'll probably jump through the hoops to have it sent back to Ruger after I get back from my next trip.Mine rattles too but I generally don't care about things like that.

Trigger is long but light.

Accuracy isn't bad. Whats really annoying is the trigger slap. I have a hard time getting through a box of ammo. Don't have that problem with the LCP

Target is 6 inches. Distance is ...idk. Whatever that looks like https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220629/e941c29d2ef8291e40e206e152d42a09.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220629/e3b90153bf3349bc5d7af0e03e66cc20.jpg

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[D-der]

Looks are subjective for distance with nothing much for
reference but shell casing's, 10+/-yds? not bad for a pocket gun.

[feudist]

Mine rattles too but I generally don't care about things like that.

Trigger is long but light.

Accuracy isn't bad. Whats really annoying is the trigger slap. I have a hard time getting through a box of ammo. Don't have that problem with the LCP

Target is 6 inches. Distance is ...idk. Whatever that looks like https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220629/e941c29d2ef8291e40e206e152d42a09.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220629/e3b90153bf3349bc5d7af0e03e66cc20.jpg

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I wrap a piece of masking tape around my trigger finger tip for extended hooting with my LCP2.

[Doc_Glock]

Accuracy isn't bad. Whats really annoying is the trigger slap. I have a hard time getting through a box of ammo. Don't have that problem with the LCP

Trigger slap/pinch was really my only issue with the pistol. Eventually I had to just suck it up and install the Galloway trigger shoe which resolved all issues. It shortens stroke which I don't really like, but that pinch was annoying.

[Moped]

Trigger slap/pinch was really my only issue with the pistol. Eventually I had to just suck it up and install the Galloway trigger shoe which resolved all issues. It shortens stroke which I don't really like, but that pinch was annoying.

The pinch is what I noticed. No other issues at all. Mine has run a flawless 200 round of FMJ and HP. Pretty much my summertime carry now. Might looking into the Galloway trigger.

[MandoWookie]

I received mine from GT Distributors last week. To say it's a disappointment is an understatement. Rattles like a maraca, trigger is about 11 pounds, shoots patterns (6-8" - not even minute of pie plate) and driving the dot sight shoots 5-6" low at 10 yards.

Not sure if these are problems with the pistol, or it's just a cheap ass Ruger. I'll probably jump through the hoops to have it sent back to Ruger after I get back from my next trip.

My father got one the first week it was available, we've put maybe 200 rounds through it so far.
No issues like you've described, other than it rattles.
Then again the max range we've shot it at has been 35 ft, with most shooting at less than that.
The large front sight and generous rear sight notch are easy to pick up bit I have a hard time being able to get good groups at 35 feet, the sights cover too much of the target and it floats too much in the rear sight to get a consistent read.

[psalms144.1]

Update: when I got back from my trip two weeks ago, I remembered I had this thing tucked away. Contacted Ruger and told them what we were observing, and they sent me a shipping label. It came back to me today, 8 calendar days from when I shipped it. Whole top end was replaced, it's now not rattly at all. The trigger still blows chunks, but they included a test target showing a 1.05" five shot group at 7 yards. They also threw in two brand new magazines (I sent it in with one).

Range on Friday will see if this upgraded pistol is worth the effort or not.

[Doc_Glock]

Update: when I got back from my trip two weeks ago, I remembered I had this thing tucked away. Contacted Ruger and told them what we were observing, and they sent me a shipping label. It came back to me today, 8 calendar days from when I shipped it. Whole top end was replaced, it's now not rattly at all. The trigger still blows chunks, but they included a test target showing a 1.05" five shot group at 7 yards. They also threw in two brand new magazines (I sent it in with one).

Range on Friday will see if this upgraded pistol is worth the effort or not.

Hope it works out. It has become my most carried pistol. It's not a Glock, but it is super convenient.

[awp_101]

After handling a Max-9 at a LGS I rented one and found that either the trigger guard is really small, the trigger sits really forward or my fingers are really, really fat. With my trigger finger indexed on the side of the frame at low ready, I had a hard time getting my finger on the trigger without fumbling around which isn’t an issue with a Shield or .38 revolver.

Anyone else had that problem?

[SLUZENE]

Am I the only one that carries a LCP max in appendix instead of a pocket?

I have a minimalist holster that I use in the appendix position when I’m out jogging or chasing my daughter around in the yard. Super lightweight and can attach to shorts or sweats. I use the 12 rd mag and don’t notice the weight difference.

It’s not my EDC gun but like I said, great when wearing athletic shorts.

Just wish the finish was better.

You're not. Deets! We need deets.

also pastaslinger

For the application I'm looking at I didn't want a DCC monoblock. I wanted a DCC behind the belt option, and was able to get a standard DCC clip onto this. https://www.desantisholster.com/pegasus-kydex/slim-tuk/
All I need to do now is play around with some spacers and cut one JMCK screw for an AIWB down to length.

No idea why it's such a pain to find a holster for the LCP MAX that takes DCC standard or behind the belt clips.

[jandbj]

You're not. Deets! We need deets.

also pastaslinger

For the application I'm looking at I didn't want a DCC monoblock. I wanted a DCC behind the belt option, and was able to get a standard DCC clip onto this. https://www.desantisholster.com/pegasus-kydex/slim-tuk/
All I need to do now is play around with some spacers and cut one JMCK screw for an AIWB down to length.

No idea why it's such a pain to find a holster for the LCP MAX that takes DCC standard or behind the belt clips.

Pics please & thanks!

[SLUZENE]

jandbj

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have not carried it yet of course. need to get some proper spacers and cut down the screw. retention is decent and adjustable but the desantis does not have that great retention "pop" like you'll get from a holster from JMCK, Tenicor, etc.

[Doc_Glock]

Put my six month old cheapo ball carry ammo and 5 more mags through the Max yesterday. Zero issues. I had pity on it and cleaned it as it was pretty linty from 8 months of pocket carry and no shooting.

Recommended!

[LockedBreech]

Put my six month old cheapo ball carry ammo and 5 more mags through the Max yesterday. Zero issues. I had pity on it and cleaned it as it was pretty linty from 8 months of pocket carry and no shooting.

Recommended!

My most recent shoot with my LCP Max was also after several months of maintenance-free pocket carry and was also flawless. It's a great little blaster. I find the slightly fatter body makes it a LOT more pleasant to shoot than the LCP for very little increase in size and weight.

[Doc_Glock]

My most recent shoot with my LCP Max was also after several months of maintenance-free pocket carry and was also flawless. It's a great little blaster. I find the slightly fatter body makes it a LOT more pleasant to shoot than the LCP for very little increase in size and weight.

I finally just unloaded my LCP classic and Glock 43 from the quick access safe and put them in the storage safe. This pistol has supplanted them. I may have gotten lucky, but my experience with this crappy Ruger is much better than expected.

[Dusty Stone]

I like it, just might have to pick one up for those times real light carry is better suited for conditions.

[Polecat]

My first on kinda shitty, poor QC, my latest has been flawless. Like all my little Rugers, LCP G2, LCP II .22 amd Max.

[The Captain]

I passed my range test last week and am waiting for my CHL, so as soon as it arrives I plan on getting the LCP Max as a gift to myself. I had planned on getting one last year but decided to wait and I am thinking about getting the Davidson’s Exclusive Ruger LCP MAX Elite (https://thinkingafield.org/2022/12/davidsons-exclusive-ruger-lcp-max-elite.html) so does anyone have this particular model?

[Screwball]

So I picked up a LCP Max to replace my original LCP. Main reasons… more ammo and better sights.

My LCP has all of it’s magazines converted to 7 rounds with the Magguts conversions. Very happy with them and always worked 100%.

So I got 3 extra 10 rounders and 3 12 rounders for the LCP Max. Noticed that 2 of the 3 12 rounders would not lock the slide back. Went to compare the followers and this jumped out at me…

https://i.imgur.com/17ePtSE.jpg

The two that weren’t locking the slide back had shorter magazine springs. Grab a 10 rounder… it’s the same spring. [emoji849] Just let Ruger know, and asked for them to send two correct springs so I can get those magazines running correctly.

My LCP runs the CT laser grip. While I could aim with the irons, it isn’t optimal. I’m not a fan of depending on the laser, but the LCP isn’t something I’m going to shoot across a supermarket with. The LCP Max sights aren’t great… but you can use them. Leaps/bounds better than the original ones.

Trigger is nice, but it definitely isn’t DAO. Feels pretty close to a striker. Size isn’t that much more than my LCP… especially since I run the Hogue grip that fits in the hammer spring cap. I do like the feel of the frame and slide. The ears at the rear of the slide are also pretty good. Slide serrations are good. Functioning slide lock is awesome. Also noticed that unlike the original LCP, the non-extended 10 round bases feel better than the one with the extended grip.

I have a few holsters on order… belt and pocket. Also have some parts from MCARBO (springs, trigger, upgraded slide lock pin and guide rod). Once I get them and try the gun out to confirm function… I’ll be sending it to CCR for plating the metal. I learned this with my original LCP… my battery acid sweat rusts within a day. Will be doing everything steel, minus the extractor.

[Screwball]

Bumping up since I had a lot done with the LCP Max…

Ruger sent two new 12 rounders. Had the long springs. So I have the 12 rounders with short springs in the spare parts bin. If Magguts ever does a kit… I’ll convert them.

Did MCARBO parts. Trigger really cleaned up. But just got the gun back from CCR. Had mostly everything done in CPII… since I sweat battery acid. Very happy with the final product. Need to hit the range to confirm zero, and get it in the rotation.

https://i.imgur.com/mvbwYUt.jpg

[Screwball]

Got out to the range today… put 200 rounds thru the LCP Max.

https://i.imgur.com/S7xWxBI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TBrPVQk.jpg

I shot my carry load; Hornady CD. It shot POA, and functioned 100%. Put some Remington FMJ that my buddy gave me… 100%. Perfecta… 100%. And I finished up with some of the biggest trash I could source… Tula steel case… again, 100%.

My buddy was shooting his .22 Magnum and the new Echelon. Had a 16” by 16” box target up at 50 yards… I put 3 out of 5 shots into it (a fourth did skim the edge). 25 yards is easy to keep it in the profile of a body… but fist groups within 10 yards. It’s nice to have sights, as well as more grip to hold on. He shot my original LCP prior, and used to have a few of the .380 Berettas. Said he liked the way it shot.

Cleaned it up a little bit ago and put some grease on it. Loaded up two 10 rounders and two 12 rounders. Want to get a few more boxes of Hornady CD for supply and another magazine for the truck. Very happy with how it came out.

[Dusty Stone]

I didn't go with another Ruger, as I already have the EC9s, but a friend offered a great deal on a G42 with night sights

[Crusader]

I’ve got a little over 500 through mine using the 10 and 12 round mags, my carry rounds and mostly my 380 reloads. Yet to have a stoppage or malfunction with it. Solid little gun, I’ve had the regular LCP II for many years well over a 1000 through it. Again can’t remember any stoppages with it either, the MAX is much easier to shoot well, great sights.

[Warped Mindless]

I just got rid of my MAX and kept the LCP 2.

No matter how much I cleaned and tinkered with the gun, it simply would not reliably feed ANY ammo that I tried. While I could have sent it back to Ruger I decided I didn’t want to deal with it as I only used it as a “around my yard/porch sitting” gun anyways. I’m back to using my reliable LCP 2 for that task.

[The Captain]

I wish I had a successful first trip to the range with my Davidson's Exclusive Ruger LCP Max Elite back in March, but it wasn't meant to be. It was pretty greasy in the bag when I picked it up at my LGS so I cleaned it up when I got home. A few days later at the range, I took a few pistols but started out with the Max yet was only able to try six shots with it as I had multiple FTF's and fortunately noticed that the takedown pin was working its way loose. I pulled the pin out, inspected everything, and then had a lot of difficulty trying to get the takedown pin to go back in. As I kept trying, the pin popped out and landed in front of the railing where all of the spent casings are swept, so I figured it was a lost cause. I snapped a quick photo with my cell phone and thought there might be a chance and as I zoomed in, there it was propped up against the front of the concrete and a spent casings.

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So after not doing anything with my LCP Max for awhile since I had some other pistols to break in, I decided to try it again but I was still having issues getting the stock takedown pin to go in. Before sending it back to Ruger, I ordered the MCARBO Heavy Duty STRESS-PROOF Takedown Pin and the Galloway Precision 13 lb Outer Recoil Spring and Stainless Steel Guide Rod and installed them a little over a week ago and went to the range a few days later. Well wouldn't you know it but I had no issues what so ever. So while I am not sure which one did the trick or if it was the combo off all three, I ran over 100 rounds of different ammo and grains without a hitch.

I even tried putting the stock takedown pin back in and it just would not back in like the MCARBO pin does. I'll probably put the stock guide rod and spring back in just to see what happens but since mine was a Davidsons Exclusive, it was supposed to have a stainless steel guide rod in it already but the stock one already looks a bit chewed up like some that I have seen pictures of and it does not look like it was stainless steel. Not sure what I will do but I am happy that it is running well now and I plan on taking it to the range anytime I go now so I can keep putting rounds through it to see how it holds up.

I really wanted to be already using it as my small and light summer EDC but I have not put enough rounds through it to feel confident in it yet. Fortunately my new Sig P365-380 is running great and my trusty Glock 42 is still serving me well. I'll update again once I take it to the range and may also end up putting all of the stock parts back in, if I can get the takedown pin back in of course, and then send it to Ruger to see what they can find.

[James_f]

Has anybody found some new AIWB options? Just ordered a Max and was a little dismayed when I didn't see anything on JMCK or DSG

[BillSWPA]

I wish I had a successful first trip to the range with my Davidson's Exclusive Ruger LCP Max Elite back in March, but it wasn't meant to be. It was pretty greasy in the bag when I picked it up at my LGS so I cleaned it up when I got home. A few days later at the range, I took a few pistols but started out with the Max yet was only able to try six shots with it as I had multiple FTF's and fortunately noticed that the takedown pin was working its way loose. I pulled the pin out, inspected everything, and then had a lot of difficulty trying to get the takedown pin to go back in. As I kept trying, the pin popped out and landed in front of the railing where all of the spent casings are swept, so I figured it was a lost cause. I snapped a quick photo with my cell phone and thought there might be a chance and as I zoomed in, there it was propped up against the front of the concrete and a spent casings.

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So after not doing anything with my LCP Max for awhile since I had some other pistols to break in, I decided to try it again but I was still having issues getting the stock takedown pin to go in. Before sending it back to Ruger, I ordered the MCARBO Heavy Duty STRESS-PROOF Takedown Pin and the Galloway Precision 13 lb Outer Recoil Spring and Stainless Steel Guide Rod and installed them a little over a week ago and went to the range a few days later. Well wouldn't you know it but I had no issues what so ever. So while I am not sure which one did the trick or if it was the combo off all three, I ran over 100 rounds of different ammo and grains without a hitch.

I even tried putting the stock takedown pin back in and it just would not back in like the MCARBO pin does. I'll probably put the stock guide rod and spring back in just to see what happens but since mine was a Davidsons Exclusive, it was supposed to have a stainless steel guide rod in it already but the stock one already looks a bit chewed up like some that I have seen pictures of and it does not look like it was stainless steel. Not sure what I will do but I am happy that it is running well now and I plan on taking it to the range anytime I go now so I can keep putting rounds through it to see how it holds up.

I really wanted to be already using it as my small and light summer EDC but I have not put enough rounds through it to feel confident in it yet. Fortunately my new Sig P365-380 is running great and my trusty Glock 42 is still serving me well. I'll update again once I take it to the range and may also end up putting all of the stock parts back in, if I can get the takedown pin back in of course, and then send it to Ruger to see what they can find.

It is disappointing that you had those issues, and I am glad you got them fixed. As interesting as it would be to know which part made the biggest difference, if it works now, I suggest leaving it as is.

[rjohnson4405]

Has anybody found some new AIWB options? Just ordered a Max and was a little dismayed when I didn't see anything on JMCK or DSG

I used a Vedder for mine and I've been happy with it.

[GlockenSpiel]

Anyone get the (I think) new stainless version? I think Screwball said his is coated not stainless. Stainless seems like a no brainer if buying new now, unless other stainless Ruger autos have had problems.

[Tokarev]

Screwball said his is coated not stainless.

Ruger shows a silver and a tungsten Cerakote option in addition to the matte stainless.

Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

[SCCY Marshal]

headhunter has been toying with an LCP Max in his usual way:

https://thetacticalprofessor.net/2024/10/23/pushing-the-limits-of-smaller-guns/

[feudist]

BTT.

Have all the issues been resolved with these?

The ones I've read about the most seem to be:
Mags dropping out during firing.
Extremely low point of impact.
Severe trigger bite/slap/sting.
Persistently dodgy QC. Ruger generally makes them right after a trip back.

Have these been remedied or is it still luck of the draw?

Standard, Elite or 75th Anniversary models?
The 75th Anniversary models are...weirdly inexpensive now. 240.00 at PSA and 240-260 lots of places.

[psalms144.1]

My sample of two showed no improvement from #1 to #2. Both exhibited all of the concerns you mentioned. Both went back to Ruger, were fixed promptly and returned, but still show hella low, had horrible triggers. I know some people have had great luck, and mine were not "recent" production, but I think you get what you pay for.

[unclenunzie]

Mags dropping out during firing.
Extremely low point of impact.
Severe trigger bite/slap/sting.
Persistently dodgy QC. Ruger generally makes them right after a trip back.

My pair (plain max 500+ rds, 75th 600+) The plain one never a function problem. The 75th had a single instance of slide locking back with rounds still in the mag early on. I remediated it with a little file/polishing under the ejector/slide-stop part to prevent cartridge rim from bumping it up during recoil. 500+ further rounds never happened again.

Never dropped a mag in either copy.

I shoot these guys from about 25' and am not skilled so not qualified to judge their accuracy. I will say that the fit between slide and barrel and slide/frame is probably designed more for reliability and cheap fitment/assembly. I don't seem to get low hits due to the guns themselves (at least not after black slide replaced by Ruger for rust and low hits, initially). My pair seem adequate as pocket guns made cheaply, as it were, for accuracy.

Never get trigger bite/slap/sting myself. Probably a good match between my particular hands/fingers and the pistols.

QC is weak, yes indeed, as above black slide replaced.

Note: The 75h anniversary model has an "upgraded" flat-faced aluminum trigger. I'm left handed and when firing weak hand only the trigger safety blade would lock occasionally and not allow me to fire due to the way it fits me and my crappy gripping. I reached out to Ruger for a possible replacement plastic regular trigger but they refused. I replaced it myself with an aftermarket MCarbo trigger which resolved that issue for me.

Note: Both will not reliably lock on empty when manually cycled, but never fail to lock on empty during live fire.

Plain was bought in June/22, 75th in March/24.

[maximus83]

BTT.

Have all the issues been resolved with these?

The ones I've read about the most seem to be:
Mags dropping out during firing.
Extremely low point of impact.
Severe trigger bite/slap/sting.
Persistently dodgy QC. Ruger generally makes them right after a trip back.

Have these been remedied or is it still luck of the draw?


My sample of one was ok as far as accuracy and reliability, and easy to carry. It did experience issues (3) and (4) that you listed, with (3) being especially bad in my case as I have size L hands.

Traded it for a S&W Bodyguard 2.0. I hear that not everyone here has liked their BG 2.0 either (shooting left for some??), but I haven't seen that with mine and it's a huge improvement in shootability over the LCP Max.

[Screwball]

unclenunzie, I got mine between your two… March 2023.

https://i.imgur.com/mvbwYUt.jpeg

Like the original LCP before it, sent to CCR for plating. Sweat really isn’t friendly with pocket guns, so I did it as soon as I got the gun (and MCARBO upgrades).

Biggest thing for me moving from the original LCP… sights and last round slide lock. Yea, extra rounds are nice. But luckily I didn’t really have an issue with the slightly larger size. Pocket carry that just the same as the original.

Zero issues with the Max, and I ran some garbage ammo to try and get it to fail. Had a buddy that got out of .380, so I got all his steel case and other cheap ammo.

https://i.imgur.com/S7xWxBI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TBrPVQk.jpeg

Only issue I’ve had, which wasn’t really the gun… I received one 12 rounder that had a 10 rounder magazine spring in it. That one magazine would not lock back at all. And if I was unloading it by hand, the last two rounds would just blob themselves out… zero pressure behind them. Ruger sent me a new magazine. This is a shot of the faulty magazine spring between a 10 rounder (left) and another 12 rounder (right).

https://i.imgur.com/17ePtSE.jpeg

And I still have a 12 rounder body, in case Magguts ever releases a setup for it. I would love to have 12 and 14 round magazines with it.

[LockedBreech]

Just to add a data point re: dates, I bought mine in August 2021. No issues in 300-400 rounds (clearly it doesn't get much range time). I've always had oddly charmed luck with the LCPs. 4 owned, no stoppages or finish issues from any of them.

That being said, I don't carry it a lot. It works but it feels subjectively a bit...fragile, somehow. That's based on nothing but my gut. Since I got good holsters for my IWB 9mms the LCP Max is pretty much exclusively on NPE pocket duty or mailbox walk duty.