Gun and ammo related scam websites

[jh9]

Maybe I'm not in the loop but I stumbled onto this today: https://www.springfield-hellcat.com/

It is a completely legitimate and in no way a scam website dedicated to the Springfield Hellcat.

https://i.imgur.com/ynlDALV.png



Looks legit at first. Hovering over the "store" menu item is where it gets interesting. The store entries are "9mm caliber", "magazines" and "accessories". Odd way to phrase it but ok.



https://i.imgur.com/zSVE8tN.png



Aaaaand there it is. "9mm caliber is made by the best engineers after several developments." The best engineers you say? Several developments? Those are the developments I like! You know what? I'm sold. Already. I need this.

Well unfortunately some of the Perfectly Legitimate Goods were sold out. But just my luck, some were in stock!

It's buy time. Let's see. I guess we fill out our Perfectly Legitimate Order Form....



https://i.imgur.com/Sh8t2Lv.png



They only take Zelle, no credit cards. But fortunately for me, I have Zelle! (Because everyone does. You bank gave it to you. No you don't get a say in it.)



https://i.imgur.com/sg8fX5F.png



Uh oh. "If your order consist of a firearm"... well shit. My order DO consist of a firearm. Now I need an FFL? :mad:



https://i.imgur.com/aGSYcqC.png



Oh, thank goodness. The FFL is optional. I was starting to worry I wouldn't be able to give this Perfectly Legitimate Business my money.



https://i.imgur.com/yVmYRVM.png



Pipe down, you. I'm sure it was just an clerical error. They'll definitely get things squared away before they ship the gun that very much exists.



https://i.imgur.com/u6J0OHa.png



BOOM. Ordered. Just need to get their Perfectly Legitimate Email in my inbox, Zelle them my money, wait for them to recognize the completely understandable mistake of leaving out the FFL, thank them for their low, low fixed shipping rate of $20 and bing bam boom. Springfield Hellcat here I come!



https://i.imgur.com/dMP47X8.png



Of course without javascript the store has some placeholders they forgot to take out. But these things happen.

Wasn't there someone here recently that was looking at a similar Kimber-dedicated store? I guess enough people are falling for this sort of thing that it's actually profitable.

[RJ]

Whois seems to have a Hong Kong contact for the Registrar.

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[jh9]

Whois seems to have a Hong Kong contact for the Registrar.

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The real disappointing thing is that if you used that support email even if you got a person they wouldn't know anything about the actual site contents. So letting boredom overtake you and asking things like "HELLO I DON'T HAVE THE ZELLE CAN YOU TAKE ITUNES GIFT CARDS" is going to go nowhere.

[Patrick Taylor]

There was also a dan wesson scam site a short while ago if I remember correct. They had the DWX ready to ship.

[Wise_A]

I mean, the first sign is that they're selling the Springfield Hellcat. Why would you want that?

[kwb377]

Aaaaand there it is. "9mm caliber is made by the best engineers after several developments." The best engineers you say? Several developments? Those are the developments I like! You know what? I'm sold. Already. I need this.


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[LittleLebowski]

Here's another scam site, a spammer just tried to register with this out of Pakistan.

https://www.gunsandweaponscenter.com/product/beretta-92fs-vertec-inox-9mm-pistol/

[fatdog]

I hereby accuse:

https://danwessonfirearmstore.com/

[Borderland]

Gunshowmags is a pretty shady outfit. I order some mags for a Ruger Mini which they claimed were Ruger mags. I got something but they weren't Mini-14 mags. They don't even look like Ruger Mini-14 mags. I've tried to contact them but the line is dead. I think they may be in China because it took three weeks to get them and they look like something someone stamped out with a hammer. I going to throw them in the garbage if I don't hear anything from them in a few weeks.

Don't do business with these jokers.

https://www.gunshowmags.com/

[LittleLebowski]

We had a clever spammer register today, schilling this outfit and with a Texas area code. Guess what? SCAM. Folks, please be careful. The scammers have figured out much money can be had easily in guns and gear social media sales. Before I made Buy/Sale/Trade Site Supporter access only, we literally had very genuine looking scammers cold calling (PMing) our forum members.

https://discreetammos.com/

[jh9]

We had a clever spammer register today, schilling this outfit and with a Texas area code. Guess what? SCAM. Folks, please be careful. The scammers have figured out much money can be had easily in guns and gear social media sales. Before I made Buy/Sale/Trade Site Supporter access only, we literally had very genuine looking scammers cold calling (PMing) our forum members.

https://discreetammos.com/

Very genuine indeed.

https://i.imgur.com/nBPFYta.png

You know what I think? I think you just don't want people to have that 27/7 support. They have bent the rules of time and space to provide customer support beyond what mere mortals are otherwise capable of.

Hater.

[LittleLebowski]

https://armsandweapons.store/

https://y.yarn.co/32e222ff-da95-4690-bfc2-b1ce1c2d955e_text.gif

[LittleLebowski]

https://guardianarms.net/

[jh9]

https://guardianarms.net/

That one is disturbingly plausible.

They're eventually going to get to the point where the only tell is "we don't take credit cards; use digital payments you can't easily get refunded".

edit: eventually I might get another google voice number and try out some of that customer service. I want to see how convincing they are with a human instead of just a website.

[awp_101]

https://guardianarms.net/

I wants to buy me some of thems riffles and ammunitions!

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[NEPAKevin]

Thread on local forum suggested this site is a scam.

https://ammozdepot.com/

[LittleLebowski]

Fake, fake, fake. Just tried registering here and trying to rip us off.

https://allammostore.com

[olgator]

Stay away from Grabagun.store..not Grabagun..ordered ammo with cc card..10 minutes later got text from them cc card declined (BS) but if you want ammo we can do Zell or Venmo..shut that down quick. 10 days later got fraud charges on cc card..so had to get a new card..
I sent a email to grabagun but as expected no response...just wanted to give um a heads up.

[4RNR]

Fake, fake, fake. Just tried registering here and trying to rip us off.

https://allammostore.comIt says orders of $199EU or more has free shipping!!

Sent from my moto z4 using Tapatalk

[parishioner]

https://coltgunshop.com/

Similar to others here only allowing payment via Zelle or cryptocurrency.

Amazingly, every colt product is in stock also.

[jh9]

Authentic-looking spam claiming to be from gunbroker. Things are spelled correctly and the buttons match the gunbroker themes quite well.

84562

Mobile outlook helpfully :rolleyes: hides the email address and just shows the name. Which is, of course, obviously fake. Opening it on a desktop client (thunderbird) shows it's from an email at "rechamotors.co.zw" and the links all go to a tinyurl.com link shortener.



XXXX@default-XXXX:~$ curl --max-redirs -1 https://tinyurl.com/2p8cXXXX
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="UTF-8" />
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url='https://maxmothailand.com/administrator/gunbroker/'" />

<title>Redirecting to https://maxmothailand.com/administrator/gunbroker/</title>
</head>
<body>
Redirecting to <a href="https://maxmothailand.com/administrator/gunbroker/">https://maxmothailand.com/administrator/gunbroker/</a>.
</body>
</html>

"maxmothailand.com" :rolleyes: Plugging that into duckduck has this on the first page (8 months ago): https://www.sigtalk.com/threads/warning-scam-gun-broker-email.410935/

Scammers gonna scam.

[RJ]

www.federalammunitions.com

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I'm not thinking this is a good place to get my Federal Ammunitions...

[LittleLebowski]

I couldn’t have done a better job, nice use of curl.


Authentic-looking spam claiming to be from gunbroker. Things are spelled correctly and the buttons match the gunbroker themes quite well.

84562

Mobile outlook helpfully :rolleyes: hides the email address and just shows the name. Which is, of course, obviously fake. Opening it on a desktop client (thunderbird) shows it's from an email at "rechamotors.co.zw" and the links all go to a tinyurl.com link shortener.



XXXX@default-XXXX:~$ curl --max-redirs -1 https://tinyurl.com/2p8cXXXX
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="UTF-8" />
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url='https://maxmothailand.com/administrator/gunbroker/'" />

<title>Redirecting to https://maxmothailand.com/administrator/gunbroker/</title>
</head>
<body>
Redirecting to <a href="https://maxmothailand.com/administrator/gunbroker/">https://maxmothailand.com/administrator/gunbroker/</a>.
</body>
</html>

"maxmothailand.com" :rolleyes: Plugging that into duckduck has this on the first page (8 months ago): https://www.sigtalk.com/threads/warning-scam-gun-broker-email.410935/

Scammers gonna scam.

[mike4eva]

Hi everyone I know I am new here but I was working on this and wanted to post it so people can see how big this problem is.

I have some Internet Marketing and E-commerce skills and found a somewhat automated way to locate footprints of what these people do. Here is a list of scam websites I have found:
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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51975289875_4e87a5d9b6_k.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51975012579_2c0f89dc3a_k.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51973722917_1126b717a1_k.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51974806388_2293694639_k.jpg

[LittleLebowski]

Spammer from India just tried to push this one.

https://www.cheapammos.com/

[LittleLebowski]

Just saw this. Well done, mike4eva


Hi everyone I know I am new here but I was working on this and wanted to post it so people can see how big this problem is.

I have some Internet Marketing and E-commerce skills and found a somewhat automated way to locate footprints of what these people do. Here is a list of scam websites I have found:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51975012604_43c5d8f159_k.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51975289875_4e87a5d9b6_k.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51975012579_2c0f89dc3a_k.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51973722917_1126b717a1_k.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51974806388_2293694639_k.jpg

[billt460]

It's really getting bad out there. I bank with J.P.Morgan Chase, and they told me don't walk away, RUN AWAY from ANY website that doesn't take Visa, AMEX, or Mastercard. Any paying website that requires an app to work, either is, or else can be made fraudulent very easily. They told me they get complaints all but daily from their customers. And Zelle is one of the absolute WORST.

[LittleLebowski]

https://ammosuppliershop.com/


https://ammosuppliershop.com/product/cci-450-primers/


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[awp_101]

I don’t think those words mean what they think they mean…

[LittleLebowski]

These guys just tried spamming us. Note the wording on their shitty site.

https://onlineammosales.org/

[mizer67]

This site seems suspect.

Found a good deal on a Holosun, but site is registered in Iceland vs. Pennsylvania.

http://freedomgorilla.com

Can anyone confirm this is legit?

[awp_101]

This website doesn't look cheap and fake at all: https://berettagunstore.com/

[jh9]

This website doesn't look cheap and fake at all: https://berettagunstore.com/

I like how well they used stock images throughout the site, but when they needed something custom (upper left corner) they straight up just used MS Paint. 9/10.

[GyroF-16]

This one had my attention for a minute, claiming to have primers, powder, and bullets in stock that were hard to find elsewhere.

https://Coastalfirearmshop.com

But they don’t take credit cards (despite the logo on the website), and ask for Zelle, Venmo, PayPal friends and family and Bitcoin.
And their contact phone number is out of service.

In addition, the phone number is in Marathon, FL, they claim to ship from Columbia, MO, but their “ship from” address is a house in the sticks west of Jacksonville, FL.

[ffchewy17]

www.zonearms.com

Definitely a scammer site , just got me for $150.00 in 30-30 ammunition. I wish I would have checked this thread first. Oh well…..

[jh9]

www.zonearms.com

Definitely a scammer site , just got me for $150.00 in 30-30 ammunition. I wish I would have checked this thread first. Oh well…..

Ouch. Not to rub salt in the wound but...

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[Kyle Reese]

https://firearmssite.com/

Had a relative attempt to order a firearm from them today. He received an email stating that they attempted to charge his credit card three times, but were unsuccessful. The email further stated that he could pay with Bitcoin, Zelle and Apple Pay. He contacted his CC and said that no charges were attempted today. The grammar and syntax in the email sent to him was odd, too.

Buyer beware.

[LittleLebowski]

https://sensiflexsupply.com/

[LittleLebowski]

This one is obvious, note the logo.

https://firearmsshop.us/

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[boostmg]

This site seems suspect.

Found a good deal on a Holosun, but site is registered in Iceland vs. Pennsylvania.

http://freedomgorilla.com

Can anyone confirm this is legit?

I'm a co-owner of Freedom Gorilla .. not sure where you're seeing that it's registered in Iceland - we are in northeast pennsylvania.

We are 100% legit with holosun inventory in stock and ready to give all our happy customers the best price we can on Holosun optics and other accessories.

Feel free to reach out to us on chat, email us, text us, or call us.

We have tons of real 5 star reviews from many happy customers.

We realize sometimes things can look too good to be true but I assure you are are legit.

We also accept paypal to ease any worries.

If you have any other questions please let me know!

Paul

[LittleLebowski]

They just tried registering here to to rip you guys off.

https://www.online-gunstore.com/

[42Willys]

These scammers intrigue me. Saw a bunch of them over Covid. First it was sites selling guns for below market, then sites focusing on ammo or even reloading components that no one had in stock anywhere else for prices that were too good to be true.

Some common threads:

They have things in stock no one else does.

Their prices are too good to be true.

And their “about us” page is generic and banal - something like “we were founded by a group of experts who wanted to bring you the best prices on guns & ammo. We have been in business since 2010 fulfilling our customer’s needs…..”. That’s a dead giveaway.

[cybersniper]

Firearmssite.com is a scam. 586-232-5064 is a scam. Gabe Aceti did not create this site (I know Gabe personally) and has reported this to the ATF . DO NOT DEAL with firearmssite.com.

[awp_101]

Checking for brass availability before a potential purchase I ran across: https://starlinebrassusa.com

It's odd how they have the brass but Starline proper lists it as backordered...;)

[awp_101]

https://holosun-usa.com/

Curiosity got the better of me looking at the AEMS Core in the FS section so I started digging around for a low mount. That sight came up and I saw they were asking $350 for the mount. For a $300 sight. Following a hunch I added it to the cart, proceeded to the checkout screen and sure enough there was the big Zelle logo. :rolleyes:

[awp_101]

https://czusafirearms.com/

Was looking for a P-07 Kadet kit this morning and this one popped up but the logo looked a little…off. Same as above, the only options at czech out are Zelle, Cash App, etc.

https://czgunbrokers.com/

Zelle or crypto only

[LittleLebowski]

https://mintarmory.com/ just tried to used an India based IP (117.219.52.219) to spam this forum. Fuck them.

[jh9]

https://mintarmory.com/ just tried to used an India based IP (117.219.52.219) to spam this forum. Fuck them.

huh, that one looks kind of legit. They apparently take credit cards (no apps / crypto) and use google for the captcha. Houston area code phone number and address.


xxx@default-application:~$ nslookup mintarmory.com
Server: 127.0.0.53
Address: 127.0.0.53#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: mintarmory.com
Address: 162.241.159.227

xxx@default-application:~$ host 162.241.159.227
227.159.241.162.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer jj1.jj10.com.

https://ipinfo.io/162.241.159.227#block-hosted

Looks like a smaller web hosting company out of Atlanta? Traceroute dead ends there, too. Doesn't look like hops off the lower 48. The list of associated domains look like something a smaller hosting company would get; mostly smaller businesses in the same general vicinity (Houston) where the owners likely referred each other, or they had a local sales person. rivascoffee.com has a bunch of MX records that indicate they use google's paid email/workspace.

Getting to the point it's hard to tell the fakes from the legit smaller shops. Or at least the legit shops with paid marketing shills, maybe? Some days I think if someone just Bartmoss'd the net it'd probably be a win.

[RoyGBiv]

huh, that one looks kind of legit. They apparently take credit cards (no apps / crypto) and use google for the captcha. Houston area code phone number and address.


xxx@default-application:~$ nslookup mintarmory.com
Server: 127.0.0.53
Address: 127.0.0.53#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: mintarmory.com
Address: 162.241.159.227

xxx@default-application:~$ host 162.241.159.227
227.159.241.162.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer jj1.jj10.com.

https://ipinfo.io/162.241.159.227#block-hosted

Looks like a smaller web hosting company out of Atlanta? Traceroute dead ends there, too. Doesn't look like hops off the lower 48. The list of associated domains look like something a smaller hosting company would get; mostly smaller businesses in the same general vicinity (Houston) where the owners likely referred each other, or they had a local sales person. rivascoffee.com has a bunch of MX records that indicate they use google's paid email/workspace.

Getting to the point it's hard to tell the fakes from the legit smaller shops. Or at least the legit shops with paid marketing shills, maybe? Some days I think if someone just Bartmoss'd the net it'd probably be a win.

What tool are you using to search???
I'm a novice... sounds like you know how to do it better, so, would appreciate some additional education...

[ETA: Looks like you are searching the domain name but the spam did not come from the IP associated with that domain IP... I'm sure I'm missing an understanding of the disconnect]

What I get is....

https://www.whtop.com/tools.ip/117.219.52.219
110464

[jh9]

What tool are you using to search???

The standard linux CLI tools.

The 117 address is the source for who tried to create a pf account (LL @ post #47)

The 162 address is where mintarmory.com is located.

I think these things are usually a case of a scam account being created to shill for a scam website. It looks like they may be a real business that probably paid for a 'marketing' service to 'advertise' for them. That marketing service then probably went around mass registering accounts on the gunternet and started posting about what a good deal they found on mintarmory and you should buy from them because they're awesome, etc etc.

Shill/spam as opposed to outright fraud. See, you have to appreciate the nuance when it comes to scammers on the internet. ;)

[LittleLebowski]

huh, that one looks kind of legit. They apparently take credit cards (no apps / crypto) and use google for the captcha. Houston area code phone number and address.


xxx@default-application:~$ nslookup mintarmory.com
Server: 127.0.0.53
Address: 127.0.0.53#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: mintarmory.com
Address: 162.241.159.227

xxx@default-application:~$ host 162.241.159.227
227.159.241.162.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer jj1.jj10.com.

https://ipinfo.io/162.241.159.227#block-hosted

Looks like a smaller web hosting company out of Atlanta? Traceroute dead ends there, too. Doesn't look like hops off the lower 48. The list of associated domains look like something a smaller hosting company would get; mostly smaller businesses in the same general vicinity (Houston) where the owners likely referred each other, or they had a local sales person. rivascoffee.com has a bunch of MX records that indicate they use google's paid email/workspace.

Getting to the point it's hard to tell the fakes from the legit smaller shops. Or at least the legit shops with paid marketing shills, maybe? Some days I think if someone just Bartmoss'd the net it'd probably be a win.

I think the store itself might be legit, but that's still a shit way to advertise here. PF has relatively cheap advertising fees.

[LittleLebowski]

https://homeofsilencers.com/

[awp_101]

https://bulkammoma.com/

[LittleLebowski]

https://expressgunstore.com/contact/

[awp_101]

https://cvariflesusa.com/

Add to cart straight from the website and e payments only. What could possibly go wrong?