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Bigguy
05-04-2021, 10:05 PM
Don't waste time trying to get those stubborn car owners to pay for maintenance. Just let the car take care of that.
71049 (https://electrek.co/2019/05/06/tesla-diagnose-pre-order-parts-service/)

ETA: Reading the article, I think the headline is a bit misleading. The part is preorders to the dealership. You get a notice of the issue and are encouraged to make a service appointment. Not quite the same as tagging your bank account for an unapproved purchase.

Bucky
05-05-2021, 05:41 AM
And I though OnStar was annoying.

peterb
05-05-2021, 08:44 AM
Just wait until they reach the next level of self awareness….

“Along with the wiper blades, I also ordered myself a set of new rims, and made an appointment to have myself detailed.”

trailrunner
05-05-2021, 09:30 AM
Perhaps we should change the model from purchasing the car to licensing the car, like we do software. Instead of the loan ending after 3, 4, or 5 years, you just make a monthly payment as long as you use the car.

Related to this - there has been a low-level push for governments to tax vehicles based on the number of miles they drive. The existing gas tax already does this (albeit indirectly), but some governments want to go further. One of the practical difficulties with this plan is knowing how many miles a person actually drives (would it be self-reported? would you have to install special equipment?), but as cars get off-board networking capability, this will get easier.

OlongJohnson
05-05-2021, 10:33 AM
Perhaps we should change the model from purchasing the car to licensing the car, like we do software. Instead of the loan ending after 3, 4, or 5 years, you just make a monthly payment as long as you use the car.

You mean leasing?

Stephanie B
05-05-2021, 11:23 AM
Don't waste time trying to get those stubborn car owners to pay for maintenance. Just let the car take care of that.
71049 (https://electrek.co/2019/05/06/tesla-diagnose-pre-order-parts-service/)

ETA: Reading the article, I think the headline is a bit misleading. The part is preorders to the dealership. You get a notice of the issue and are encouraged to make a service appointment. Not quite the same as tagging your bank account for an unapproved purchase.

I'll own a Tesla around the time that the Sun becomes a red giant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#After_core_hydrogen_exhaustion).

ETA: I have the same respect for Tesla owners that I do for Taurus Judge owners.

Snapshot
05-05-2021, 01:22 PM
I'll own a Tesla around the time that the Sun becomes a red giant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#After_core_hydrogen_exhaustion).

ETA: I have the same respect for Tesla owners that I do for Taurus Judge owners.

Harsh, perhaps... but I will be ordering my Tesla after Stephanie takes delivery of hers. I have "the day after never" penciled in for this.

CCT125US
05-05-2021, 02:43 PM
ETA: I have the same respect for Tesla owners that I do for Taurus Judge owners.

Why the hate? Genuinely curious, I understand Tesla is polarizing, and have no dog in the fight.

Rockey
05-05-2021, 03:39 PM
Regarding the original article, this would simply help to ensure that parts are in stock for maintenance and repairs so that there is not a waiting period. This fits right into Tesla's plan of making AI useful for the vehicle owners convenience. The vehicle would not be ordering parts and charging them to your account without your consent. The article title is simply there for clickbait reasons.

In regards to owning a Tesla vehicle. I have one and it is the best car I've ever owned. It is extremely fast, instantly responsive, has amazing handling, and is the safest car on the road. On top of all that I never have to visit a gas station because I can charge it at my home each night. And with the advances in their AI infrastructure it is getting better with each monthly software update.

It is one of those cars that once you drive one you will never buy anything else.

wvincent
05-05-2021, 03:42 PM
Regarding the original article, this would simply help to ensure that parts are in stock for maintenance and repairs so that there is not a waiting period. This fits right into Tesla's plan of making AI useful for the vehicle owners convenience. The vehicle would not be ordering parts and charging them to your account without your consent. The article title is simply there for clickbait reasons.

In regards to owning a Tesla vehicle. I have one and it is the best car I've ever owned. It is extremely fast, instantly responsive, has amazing handling, and is the safest car on the road. On top of all that I never have to visit a gas station because I can charge it at my home each night. And with the advances in their AI infrastructure it is getting better with each monthly software update.

It is one of those cars that once you drive one you will never buy anything else.

What kind of range are you getting on a full charge?

Rockey
05-05-2021, 03:50 PM
What kind of range are you getting on a full charge?

I have a model Y and get between 80 to 90% of the rated range depending on how heavy my right foot is. On full charge that is about 270 miles.

The move to the 4680 cells early next year is going to change a lot of people's perception. This will allow them to dramatically increase the range of the vehicles while maintaining or decreasing the weight of the battery pack.

To put it in perspective, the previous model S range was around 350 miles. The move to the 4680 is going to give the top-end model S over 500 miles of range. The move to the 4680 cells for the model 3 and model y mass-market cars should put them over 400 miles of rated range which will equate to a real world range over 350 miles.

Regardless, my current model Y has more range than I will ever use in a single day. And with the spacing of the supercharger Network there is really nowhere in the US I cannot go with short pit stops. Given that I'm hauling children on any road trip, I am generally stopping for about half an hour every few hours for food and bathrooms anyway.

Stephanie B
05-05-2021, 04:20 PM
Why the hate? Genuinely curious, I understand Tesla is polarizing, and have no dog in the fight.

I believe that Musk is a serious, world-class prick. When the pandemic first hit, all of the car companies shut down. It was Musk who was squawking that his factory, which makes pricey short-range cars, was so seriously important that it didn't matter if half his work-force got the virus. Basically, he didn't want to take a hit to the stock price.

Bucky
05-06-2021, 04:29 AM
Perhaps we should change the model from purchasing the car to licensing the car, like we do software. Instead of the loan ending after 3, 4, or 5 years, you just make a monthly payment as long as you use the car.

So, like a lease?

Battery leasing is also a thing (more so in Europe), especially for lower cost electric cars.

BigT
05-06-2021, 07:06 AM
I believe that Musk is a serious, world-class prick. When the pandemic first hit, all of the car companies shut down. It was Musk who was squawking that his factory, which makes pricey short-range cars, was so seriously important that it didn't matter if half his work-force got the virus. Basically, he didn't want to take a hit to the stock price.


His work force probably enjoyed getting paid.

Stephanie B
05-06-2021, 08:43 AM
His work force probably enjoyed getting paid.

I doubt if Musk cares anymore about his workforce than Bezos does. (Or anyone named Walton.)

jf837
05-06-2021, 10:04 AM
I doubt if Musk cares anymore about his workforce than Bezos does. (Or anyone named Walton.)

I doubt Musk cares about your opinion of him, or mine for that matter. Maybe he is just of the mindset that adults are able to make adult decisions. Go to work if you think you should. Stay home if you think you should. You know, power to the people and all that jazz.

I understand he is a polarizing figure politically, but I wouldn't call him a prick simply for the fact that he allowed his employees to go to work during a time when the majority of the country wanted to do the same.

BigT
05-07-2021, 07:27 AM
I doubt if Musk cares anymore about his workforce than Bezos does. (Or anyone named Walton.)


Yet there they were with money in their bank accounts from working.

I don't know the dude so I have no strong feeling about him , other than his being an android. Nonetheless, his job is to keep his companies open and trading, which in turn keeps his employees employed. Unintended consequence or not those people could pay their bills as a result of that business running. Not everyone had that privilege.