View Full Version : Glock 43x/48 heavier recoil spring?
js475
04-26-2021, 08:34 AM
I bought a G48 a few months ago and finally got around to firing a box of 147gr Federal HST through it. I noticed the cycling had a sluggish feel to it when compared to ball ammo. This was especially noticeable when I would hold the trigger back and not reset it until the gun cycled. Whenever I did that, the slide would be a fraction of an inch out of battery and then fully return once I reset the trigger. I haven't had any malfunctions with this gun using the HSTs or with the 500 or so ball rounds I've fired, but this gives me a bit of hesitation to carry it.
In another thread many people felt the single stack Glocks are a little undersprung from the factory. I found a company Centennial Defense Systems that makes a 19 lb recoil spring for the G43/43x/48 (factory is 17 lb). Do you guys think a stronger aftermarket recoil spring could help with feeding reliability with duty ammo?
I bought a G48 a few months ago and finally got around to firing a box of 147gr Federal HST through it. I noticed the cycling had a sluggish feel to it when compared to ball ammo. This was especially noticeable when I would hold the trigger back and not reset it until the gun cycled. Whenever I did that, the slide would be a fraction of an inch out of battery and then fully return once I reset the trigger. I haven't had any malfunctions with this gun using the HSTs or with the 500 or so ball rounds I've fired, but this gives me a bit of hesitation to carry it.
In another thread many people felt the single stack Glocks are a little undersprung from the factory. I found a company Centennial Defense Systems that makes a 19 lb recoil spring for the G43/43x/48 (factory is 17 lb). Do you guys think a stronger aftermarket recoil spring could help with feeding reliability with duty ammo?
How dirty / dry is your gun? Reducing slide, barrel hood and chamber friction can affect how much work the spring has to do.
Just something to check, but in another Glock 48 thread I seem to recall someone mentioning that they had a OOB situation, and discovered that the extractor depressor plunger and spring were not fully mated/seated. Removing the slide cover plate and reseating the extractor depressor plunger addressed that issue. I'll go have a search for the post, and add it if I can find it.
I have 775 rounds through my stock black G48 since I bought it last September, a mix of 115 AE ball and some carry ammo (<100 rounds) of Federal HST 147 or Speer GD 124+p. The only issue I've had was two failure to feed stoppages using Speer GD 115 on the last round of a magazine (I don't use GD 115 but was curious whether it ran, and shot a few mags of once-chambered carry ammo from our now-sold P365). Otherwise good to go.
HeavyDuty
04-29-2021, 10:36 AM
Just something to check, but in another Glock 48 thread I seem to recall someone mentioning that they had a OOB situation, and discovered that the extractor depressor plunger and spring were not fully mated/seated. Removing the slide cover plate and reseating the extractor depressor plunger addressed that issue. I'll go have a search for the post, and add it if I can find it.
I have 775 rounds through my stock black G48 since I bought it last September, a mix of 115 AE ball and some carry ammo (<100 rounds) of Federal HST 147 or Speer GD 124+p. The only issue I've had was two failure to feed stoppages using Speer GD 115 on the last round of a magazine (I don't use GD 115 but was curious whether it ran, and shot a few mags of once-chambered carry ammo from our now-sold P365). Otherwise good to go.
I was one of the ones who had that issue, and the fix.
Coyote41
04-29-2021, 10:37 AM
I’ve made this observation in other threads. The 43X and 48 have weak recoil springs since they’re using the one based for the 43. It’s not actually that simple, but it’s the easiest explanation. At that time, no extra power spring was available. Because the striker spring opposes the recoil spring, I opted for a 5 lb striker spring and have not had any FTRB issues since. I just need to be on too of changing that spring far more frequently than the factory striker spring.
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Hot Sauce
04-29-2021, 11:07 AM
I’ve made this observation in other threads. The 43X and 48 have weak recoil springs since they’re using the one based for the 43. It’s not actually that simple, but it’s the easiest explanation. At that time, no extra power spring was available. Because the striker spring opposes the recoil spring, I opted for a 5 lb striker spring and have not had any FTRB issues since. I just need to be on too of changing that spring far more frequently than the factory striker spring.
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js475
04-29-2021, 11:57 AM
I went ahead and ordered a 19lb recoil spring. I figured for $35 it was worth a try. I'll report back once I have a chance to put some rounds through it.
My gun's not too dirty, I last cleaned and oiled it probably 200 rounds ago. Everything also seems fine with the extractor plunger. Like I said I haven't actually had any malfunctions, but the sluggish cycling just has me a bit worried about long term reliability with my 147 gr HSTs. With the current ammo situation I'm not stocking up on another type of defensive ammo any time soon.
Coyote41
04-29-2021, 12:47 PM
What's the weight on the factory striker spring?
5.5 lb. It is not unique to the slim series. I just bought a big pack of them and put them in all of my extended slide Glocks (48s and 34s). It didn’t change the trigger pull much in the 48. It made a decent difference in the 34.
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Hot Sauce
04-29-2021, 12:51 PM
I went ahead and ordered a 19lb recoil spring. I figured for $35 it was worth a try. I'll report back once I have a chance to put some rounds through it.
My gun's not too dirty, I last cleaned and oiled it probably 200 rounds ago. Everything also seems fine with the extractor plunger. Like I said I haven't actually had any malfunctions, but the sluggish cycling just has me a bit worried about long term reliability with my 147 gr HSTs. With the current ammo situation I'm not stocking up on another type of defensive ammo any time soon.Interested to see how the 19lb will fare, please let us know.
evi1joe
04-29-2021, 02:36 PM
I worried about the spring after reading reports (some on here), so I went with the DPM recoil system using light spring (though I want to move up to medium and check it out as well). It's had no issues in a few hundred rounds of 124 American Eagle, 124 HST (my carry round), or the 115 +P Federal HP or 135 +P critical duty.
The #19 spring sounds like a good idea if you shoot hot loads...my go to is just 124 AE FMJ and 124 HST...neither seem too hot for the gun, but I wanted to try the DPM RSA after having seen some reports from people using the MANTIS to look at recoil impulse info.
evi1joe
04-29-2021, 02:40 PM
I figured for $35 it was worth a try.
I'm seeing $45 for the SS version...would prefer the "black", but that would be $55. :(
js475
04-29-2021, 02:54 PM
I'm seeing $45 for the SS version...would prefer the "black", but that would be $55. :(
I bought the stainless one on Ebay for $35. The coated ones were more. I didn't care about the color since the guide rod is hidden on the 48.
js475
05-13-2021, 03:53 PM
Update: finally got out to the range with the 19lb recoil spring. The sluggish cycling with 147 gr HST ammo is improved. The return to battery is much more positive with the stronger recoil spring. The only issues I had were failures to lock the slide back on the last round with 115 gr range ammo. No issues with the 3 mags of 147 grain HST I fired. I'll continue testing the heavier spring.
I also noticed the Suarez recoil spring that moves away from the dual spring design. Has anyone had experience with this spring?
GhostDog
05-14-2021, 06:51 AM
I use the Suarez RSA in several 43x (2 with RMR, 2 without). No problems at all with: ball ammo, 115 grain GD, and 124 grain GD+P.
The Suarez RSA seems to run "smoother" (subjective opinion) than the OEM dual-spring set-up.
YMMV
GhostDog
05-14-2021, 07:37 AM
The pistols seem to be a little "tight" when brand new. The only stoppages I've had (3 different guns, one stoppage per gun, different ammo types) were within the first 100 rounds with the OEM RSA and they never happened again.
I had one stovepipe, one ftrb, and one fte.
Also, as others have said on the forum, I think hanging a wml, laser, or curb feelers on these pistols will adversely affect reliability.
ulaforever
02-20-2024, 03:48 PM
I was one of the ones who had that issue, and the fix.
Could you let me know your solution, I didn't post it but plan to add a true precision threaded barrel and what to shoot 147gr suppressed. Mostly because I live in Tucson and I can drive 20 mins to shoot on BLM land and I hate hearing protection in the heat, So however you made your 43x mos a supressor host that cycles would be so so appreciated. I have worked with other pistols (even ones advertised as hosts like my P320 Legion x-carry, took me way too much time and money to get it to do what it was supposed to. This is my first Glock so any help is appreciated.
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