Glock 19 or 45?

[KevH]

For those of you that own or have played with both, do you prefer the Glock 19 or 45?

(I'm intentionally leaving the question open ended)

[TC215]

I’m issued a 19M and have carried various Gen4’s and Gen5’s on duty over the years. I like them fine.

I’ve been carrying a POW G45, though, just because it fits my hands better. If I had smaller hands I’d probably just go with the 19, but I really like the 45.

[LOKNLOD]

My mediumish hands fit just fine on a 19 grip and since I'm going to push my hand high either way, the extra grip of the 17/45 length is just hanging off the bottom anyway not doing me any good.

[Sammy1]

I'm issued and carry (on and off duty) a G19 Gen 5. I have a G45 that I prefer shooting at the range and competitions. This probably doesn't help you but that's how I roll.

[GJM]

If you can only have one, a 19 makes sense, but if you can have more than one, a 45 shoots more like a big gun.

[HeavyDuty]

I have both, and while I prefer shooting the 45 the 19 is more versatile.

[Duelist]

I have a 19X and a 26, and a 44 (19 in .22LR). I don’t hate the grip length on the 44, and in .22 it’s a lot of fun, but for my hands, I much prefer the full length grip of the 19X for a long day at the range. For a long day carrying it, I’ll take the 26. Unless I stumble on a stupid good deal, I’ll probably never buy a 19.

[tlong17]

Nineteen.

[O4L]

45 for me. I prefer the longer grip.

[donlapalma]

Own and shoot both a lot. The 19 gets carried. The 45 is for the range. If I had to throw one out.....I would be keeping the 19.

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[ECVMatt]

Like other have said above, I have bigger hands so my 45 is a lot more comfortable to shoot than my 19. My first answer would be buy both, but if I had to choose I would go with the 45.

[HCM]

It depends. What is more important to you? Concealment or performance ?

If performance, it's not as simple as "hand size."

The G19 grip is not only shorter, but it has a more pronounced "hump" which sits higher up on the back strap. This fits some people's hands and shooting style better than others.

From what I've seen among different officers at work, most people shoot one (G19 grip or G17 grip) 10-15% better than the other. Maybe 20-25% are agnostic between the two.

I, myself, shoot the 17 grip about 10% better than the 19 grip but it's worth noting I shoot best with different size backstraps on the two different grips.

[wvincent]

I have small hands and the G45 was a vast improvement for me in not only times, but accuracy. As HCM stated, the location of the backstrap swell on the 19 tended to not allow me to get as good a grip.

[Bucky]

It depends. What is more important to you? Concealment or performance ?

If performance, it's not as simple as "hand size."

The G19 grip is not only shorter, but it has a more pronounced "hump" which sits higher up on the back strap. This fits some people's hands and shooting style better than others.

From what I've seen among different officers at work, most people shoot one (G19 grip or G17 grip) 10-15% better than the other. Maybe 20-25% are agnostic between the two.

I, myself, shoot the 17 grip about 10% better than the 19 grip but it's worth noting I shoot best with different size backstraps on the two different grips.

^^^ this.

Prior to the Gen 4, I’ve found the 19 to be awkward. The 4 without the backstrap is tolerable. I personally feel GLOCK made a mistake with the Gen 2 G19, as a 17 chopped to 19 length has a different, and in my opinion, a much better feel.

Still, if concealability isn’t an issue, I still prefer the extra grip, even if it does hang below my grip in my medium sized hands.

[camsdaddy]

The 45 is the gun I regret selling. While I have smaller hands I prefer the way a 17/45 grip feels in my hand. A full size grip just feels good and the shorter barrel balances well. I cant explain it I thought it was the dumbest thing ever when I first read about it. I like the fact that the 45 fits comfortably in my 19 holsters. I find I normally carry my 26 in the 19 holster but would prefer the 45 for times when I can conceal a little more. If I had known the Enigma would be released I would not have sold my 45. I will buy another when things settle and guns become available.

[Rex G]

Of the two, I would go with the G45, though my sample pistol is the similar-dimension G19x. (I do plan to add a G45, when availability improves.) I never shot a G19 as well as a G17, and can no longer even use short-grip 9mm pistols, if my right hand is the weapon hand. Not just pain, but swelling and discoloration, started in 2017, with Gen4 G19 pistols. If the rear of a pistol’s grip does not firmly engage the “heel bone” area of my hand, it is, now, useless to me. I traded-away my three G19 pistols last year.

My hands are not wide, and I have skinny fingers, enabling me to get a three-finger grip on compact pistols that most males can only grip with two fingers, but, my hands, if not my fingers, are long, so actually thrive with handguns that have full-duty/service-length grips, and, not too much of a rounded butt.

[Screwball]

While I prefer the full-size guns, if it was between the 19 and 45... I’d go 19. Not because I’m issued one, but because of the ability to use both 19 and 17 sized magazines.

I rarely carry it off duty, but the two extra rounds doesn’t mean a lot (that I could just get +2 bases or 17 rounders), especially if it is the same gun I train with.

[M2CattleCo]

I would strongly prefer the 45 with the grip chopped to accept 19 magazines.

If I wanted a full size pistol I’d rather have a 17 or 34.

[HeavyDuty]

Prior to the Gen 4, I’ve found the 19 to be awkward.

You’re not alone. My main defensive gun for over a decade starting in the early 90s was a 23.2, and it never really fit me. My 19.4 and 19.5 are a huge improvement.

[HCountyGuy]

I had a 19 and sold it off to get a 45 and don't regret it. As HCM pointed out there's a good difference in the hump between a 19 and 17/34/45 grip. When I would go to draw with my 19 the more exaggerated hump seemed to somewhat impede a full grip out of the holster because of how it would hit my palm on the pinky side. The 45 grip hump is farther down and less pronounced to where I don't get that hinderance and I feel my grip is more solid on the draw.

[HeavyDuty]

I’m starting to think a chopped 45 might be the best of both worlds.

[Mitch]

I prefer the 45 by a pretty significant margin. I have to dress around a Glock 19, it’s not that much more work to dress around a 45 especially with some of the fantastic holster options available.

[dontshakepandas]

The only acceptable answer to this is get two of each.

[YVK]

My 19x is on its way home after a grip chop. Like the way it shoots, but can't conceal a full grip.

[CLaw]

My 19x is on its way home after a grip chop. Like the way it shoots, but can't conceal a full grip.

May I ask who your using? It would be great to see photos when you get it back as well. As I mentioned in this or another thread, I keep being tempted to send off a few Glocks for grip work from boresight or another company, but the sticker shock keeps my wallet in my pocket.

[awp_101]

I’m starting to think a chopped 45 might be the best of both worlds.

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[1911Nut]

I shot Glock pistols a lot for two or three years, primarily 34's, but also 17's and 19's. There were other models, too. But in trying to stay on the subject of this thread, I just wonder why someone that needs or prefers the 17 length grip doesn't just shoot a 17.

If shootability is the priority, and the 17 length grip fits better, I understand the preference of a 45 over a 19.

If concealment is the priority, I understand the preference of a 19 or a 45 over the 17.

But how much more difficult is it to conceal a 17 as compared to a 45? Does that slight difference in barrel length (which also provides the advantage of slightly increased sight radius) really make the 17 significantly more difficult to conceal than the 45?

I only own a G43 today, which replaces my "J" frame revolver.

But if I were to return to Glock pistols, I'm pretty certain they would be Gen5 G17's . . . . both for competition and EDC. The grip fits my hand better than a 19/45, the pistol has a larger ammo capacity and a greater sight radius than a 45 or a 19, and the .51" longer (than a G45) to .67" longer (than a G19) OAL just isn't a deal breaker for concealment for me.

For reference, I am 6'2" tall, weigh 207 lbs., and wear size 12 gloves (big hands).

[YVK]

May I ask who your using? It would be great to see photos when you get it back as well. As I mentioned in this or another thread, I keep being tempted to send off a few Glocks for grip work from boresight

Boresight it is for me. I have a g19 with a razorback and mild grip redux that I traded into. I think it mimics my gaming CZ very closely so I decided to give 19x the same treatment. Expensive indeed.

[TC215]

I shot Glock pistols a lot for two or three years, primarily 34's, but also 17's and 19's. There were other models, too. But in trying to stay on the subject of this thread, I just wonder why someone that needs or prefers the 17 length grip doesn't just shoot a 17.

Since I’m issued a 19, a 45 means I don’t have to buy all new holsters. Plus, my G45 is RMRd, so the sight radius doesn’t really matter.

[Rex G]

I shot Glock pistols a lot for two or three years, primarily 34's, but also 17's and 19's. There were other models, too. But in trying to stay on the subject of this thread, I just wonder why someone that needs or prefers the 17 length grip doesn't just shoot a 17.

If shootability is the priority, and the 17 length grip fits better, I understand the preference of a 45 over a 19.

If concealment is the priority, I understand the preference of a 19 or a 45 over the 17.

But how much more difficult is it to conceal a 17 as compared to a 45? Does that slight difference in barrel length (which also provides the advantage of slightly increased sight radius) really make the 17 significantly more difficult to conceal than the 45?

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Well, it could matter, where one gets poked, with any type of inside-the-trousers rig. Concealment may not be the only consideration. Gimpy shoulder/elbow/wrist joints, plus high-riding holsters, can make a shorter barre/slide more desirable, as the shorter option clears the holster with less upward travel distance.

Then, there are those who like mini-comps, and want their adult-sized-grip Roland/Faux-land Specials to fit G34 holsters. I have a G19 Gen4 slide, and a Gen4 KKM barrel and comp, which I plan to try on a G45 G19x frame, when I can start going to ranges again. (I get my second Moderna stick tomorrow morning.)

Then, there is balance/heft. To borrow from my experience with 1911, and conversations with those who favor Commander-sized 1911 pistols, some truly prefer the balance of the Commander. I prefer the balance and heft of the Government-sized pistols, but do not disagree with folks who prefer the balance and heft of Commanders.

[roboster2013]

I have both, and I enjoy shooting and carrying both. I know that doesn't help much.

[Sammy1]

If I could only own one, it'd be the G45.

[ffhounddog]

I have a 45 and a 19X.

I have 4 19 gen4, 3 19gen3, and a 19gen5. I carry and shoot my Gen5 19 right now but was carrying my Robar Gen3 before that. I like the trigger on the Gen5 19.

[stomridertx]

The 45 is my favorite Glock to shoot, bar none. However, I like the way the G19 carries much better. That being said, the G45 is not impossible to conceal. Surprisingly, if I could only have one it would be the G19.
Food for thought: (I don't have this setup so I'm talking out my arse)
If you have a G45 and a G19, you could put a threaded barrel, compensator, big light with ALL the lumens, and larger optic on the G45. G19 would have the stock barrel, possibly a TLR-7, and RMR sized optic. Now you can swap slides back and forth. Probably a lot less useful than it sounds, but there's a lot of possibility with the same size slide and different grip sizes.

[HeavyDuty]

Kinda related question. I know nothing about any of the aftermarket Glock pattern frames. Do any of them duplicate the G17/45 grip size and shape in a 19 length? Or are we limited to chop jobs?

[steve]

I have both and I prefer the G45. With that being said I carry a G26 so neither for me is a carry gun so my view is only objective from a shooting perspective.

[Hot Cereal]

I don’t like the way the flared magwell on the 19 feels in my hand. I liked the 45 better. I haven’t been able to shoot either one, but I’d pass on anything Glock right now. They’re just so ‘meh’ to me. I have a 1996 generation 2 17 and a 2004 generation 3 23, both I’ll never part with. Good guns, just meh. If you’re not dead set on Glock I’d take a hard look at the APX line up from Beretta. I have the Centurion and granted I wasn’t able to really work it out the way I wanted to due to Covid ammo, but I prefer that pistol to any Glock. I’m waiting on a TLR7 Sub from Battery Junction, hoping it will fit the short pic rail of the Centurion. If you want more info about the APX, DM me.

[Robinson]

If I had to pick between a 19 and a 45 I would choose the 45. But I choose a 17/34 over either.

The Glock 19 has always felt like a squirt gun to me, probably because of the shape of the grip frame and backstrap. I've been carrying a Lightweight Government model and it's relatively comfortable, so the 17/34 would work well for me. For that reason I would have no use for the G45.

For me, the more difficult choice is between the 17 and 34. I like them both but shoot the 34 better. Mine are Gen 3s, and I am tempted to try a Gen 5 G17. For now, the 34 and 41 are my favorite Glocks, and they both fit in my JMCK holster.

[Super77]

I'm a Glock 45 guy all the way. A while back I shot a 19X. I thought I would hate it. Long grip, short slide? I thought it was the mullet of handguns. But while I was shooting I noticed that I liked the recoil impulse and slide speed of the 19 size slide, and I liked the grip contour of the 17 grip. The sights just seem to settle and be right where I expect them. Weirdly, it was kind of the best of both worlds, but I wasn't a big fan of the magwell area of the 19X. The 45 solves that with the added benefit of the glare to the mag well. The Gen 5 17/45/15 frame is about like a 19 frame with a magwell. It doesn't carry/conceal significantly worse for me, and I don't carry a spare mag on body so the +2 is a bonus. I'd have no issue running a 19, and I still have one, but the 45 has basically replaced it.

[Super77]

The 45 solves that with the added benefit of the glare to the mag well.

Meant to type “flair” not glare!

[RancidSumo]

I have both and almost never shoot my G45. Really only bought it on the thought that maybe someday I'll want to shoot matches and it might be better for that. I wear a medium to large glove, depending on the brand, and I can easily get a full grip on the 19.

[Brian T]

I love my G45s and I carry one in a RCS Phantom IWB on the daily. I really do enjoy the way they shoot, especially with my handloads and my chosen JHP (147gr HST). It feels like I am shooting a comp'd gun. I use a 10-8 rear and a Warren FO front.

havent played with a Gen 5 G19, which I should do.

[ViniVidivici]

That extra hump is less an issue with gen 4-5 guns, I think.

Gen 4 G19 is the best stock Glock grip I've shot with.

I would have no use for a G45/G19x setup. If I want the extra capacity, a longer mag goes in.

Me, I have a G17, but have no use for the extra long grip, due to hand size. If folks do, then the longer grip is in order.

[stinx]

I am issued a gen 5 19 as my duty weapon and also have a 45. All things considered I wish the 45 was my duty weapon due to the added capacity. The 19 for me conceals easier. They both shoot awesome but to me the 45 shoots little better. in the end they are both super guns, get the one your most comfortable with, there is no bad choice just different.

[JAD]

I have small hands and have owned and shot the crap out of several gen 2 and gen 4 G19s. I am radically better with a G4 17. Chopping a G45 to 19 proportions is a thing I will get around to.

[HeavyDuty]

I have small hands and have owned and shot the crap out of several gen 2 and gen 4 G19s. I am radically better with a G4 17. Chopping a G45 to 19 proportions is a thing I will get around to.

I still have a Blue Label coupon to burn before June, and the idea of picking up a 45 MOS and having it chopped is very tempting.

[camsdaddy]

I still have a Blue Label coupon to burn before June, and the idea of picking up a 45 MOS and having it chopped is very tempting.

This may be reason to join GSSF and do the same.

[HeavyDuty]

This may be reason to join GSSF and do the same.

If you do, join for two years out of the gate. You’ll get a certificate immediately after processing, and another at the one year point. Then, you can renew on an annual basis and get a cert each time. It’s a diabolical thing.

[Nephrology]

I also have small hands, and I am measurably (but only slightly) better with a glock 19 (gen 3 and gen 4) than a glock 17 (gen 3 and 4). The difference is small.

[professor]

I still have a Blue Label coupon to burn before June, and the idea of picking up a 45 MOS and having it chopped is very tempting.

I’ve lost you.

What are you gaining over a G19 by cutting down a G45 to the size of a G19? [emoji2371]

[HCM]

I’ve lost you.

What are you gaining over a G19 by cutting down a G45 to the size of a G19? [emoji2371]

As noted earlier in the thread, The shape of the G17/45 grip is slightly different than that of the G19. The G19 having a more pronounced “hump” which sits higher up on the back strap.

Depending on hand size and shape most people’s performance slightly favors one or the other.

[babypanther]

70673

This is my favorite Glock set-up. I guess the best word for it would be synergy. The full size grip combined with the 19 length slide made the 19x/45 my favorite glock to shoot. Adding the comp keeps the light clean(er), but the biggest bonus to me is the dot really doesnt move a lot through the recoil track, and combine that with the perceived "snappiness" that the 19 length slide already has, and it makes me smile when I shoot it. Plus with the comp, it fits G34 length Safariland holsters.

[JBP55]

I still have a Blue Label coupon to burn before June, and the idea of picking up a 45 MOS and having it chopped is very tempting.

Good Luck finding one in stock.

[ViniVidivici]

I am issued a gen 5 19 as my duty weapon and also have a 45. All things considered I wish the 45 was my duty weapon due to the added capacity. The 19 for me conceals easier. They both shoot awesome but to me the 45 shoots little better. in the end they are both super guns, get the one your most comfortable with, there is no bad choice just different.

As far as capacity, would it violate your department's policy to have a G17 mag in that G19?

[stinx]

As far as capacity, would it violate your department's policy to have a G17 mag in that G19?

no

[camsdaddy]

I’ve lost you.

What are you gaining over a G19 by cutting down a G45 to the size of a G19? [emoji2371]

The 45 has the grip shape of the 17. The 19 has a hump. Cutting the 45 to a 19 gives you the feel of the 17 with the conceal ability of the 19 and allows it to use 15 round 19 magazines.

Im sorry when I posted this I guess my page had not refreshed and didnt realize this question had already been answered.

[HeavyDuty]

I’ve lost you.

What are you gaining over a G19 by cutting down a G45 to the size of a G19? [emoji2371]


As noted earlier in the thread, The shape of the G17/45 grip is slightly different than that of the G19. The G19 having a more pronounced “hump” which sits higher up on the back strap.

Depending on hand size and shape most people’s performance slightly favors one or the other.


The 45 has the grip shape of the 17. The 19 has a hump. Cutting the 45 to a 19 gives you the feel of the 17 with the conceal ability of the 19 and allows it to use 15 round 19 magazines.

Im sorry when I posted this I guess my page had not refreshed and didnt realize this question had already been answered.

^^^ What they said. I wouldn’t do it without doing side by side comparisons of my 19 and a chopped 17 or 45.

[MGW]

I probably don't have anything valuable to add that hasn't already been said. I have gone through I don't know how many Glock 19's over the years. I really want the 19 to work for me. It's the perfect do-all size in my opinion. But like others, the hump hits me in a bad spot. I yank shots low with that pistol more than anything else I've tried. And I've shot damn near everything. Yes, it's a shooter issue but it seems to be very specific to that pistol. I shoot a full-size Glock so much better that it isn't even funny. I really like the 43x/48 and I have been very tempted to pick up a 19 just to see if there is any difference in ability between the two pistols for me. I feel like I shoot a single stack Glock better than a 19 but I don't have any data to back it up.

I'll add one more thing. I know my issues with a 19 are a problem with me because I shoot a Glock 44 very well. None of the issues I have with a 19 show up with the 44. So it is 100% a flinch issue with the 19.

[Doc_Glock]

I keep meaning to pull a 19 and 17 out of the safe to compare because while I have heard talk of
this hump thing over the years I have never actually noticed it and I seem to switch between them without difficulty.

That said I also love the 45. And the 19x. And I carry a chopped 17;) Maybe the hump is the subliminal reason why.

[M2CattleCo]

Main reason I like a 17 size grip is no-pinch reloads.

I got the meaty part of my hand in the magwell on one of those real big hurry reloads at a match one time. Made my eyes water, couldn’t breathe for a minute, and I peed a little bit.

17 is better.

[SW CQB 45]

While I like my personal and issued G19, I got bit once on a mag change and learned to move my hand out of the way on reloads.

With that said... I have been thinking G45 MOS lately. A co-worker bought one and its nice.

https://i.imgur.com/efKbSlMh.jpg

[rojocorsa]

I prefer the longer grip of the G45 (add the fact that I also already stocked 17 round mags from previously carrying and shooting a G34 full time).

[Gary1911A1]

I realize this is just with my hand size, but with Magpul 19 Magazines I find I don't pinch the heel of my strong hand doing speed loads like I do with factory magazines.

[Doc_Glock]

I took a really close look at some 19s vs 17s and 45s. IMO this 19 “hump” think is incredibly over stated. The grips are almost identical. At the bottom the 19 flares back ever so slightly. That flare is within 1 mm of a G17 grip.

At the top of the grip where it counts they are absolutely identical.

Perhaps this hump is on the front of the grip? I forgot to check the front.

If it is supposedly on the rear of the grip this is truly a princess and pea situation if you can feel it. Doubly so if the hump is a reason for a performance difference between pistols. No way on earth could I tell the difference other than overall length.

Not saying it doesn’t exist, but damn guys this seems like fantasy to me. Changing back straps would have massively more difference.

Also to the OP: G45. Because they are awesome to handle and if you don’t like it you can cut it down to a 19. Or a 26.

[HCM]

I took a really close look at some 19s vs 17s and 45s. IMO this 19 “hump” think is incredibly over stated. The grips are almost identical. At the bottom the 19 flares back ever so slightly. That flare is within 1 mm of a G17 grip.

At the top of the grip where it counts they are absolutely identical.

Perhaps this hump is on the front of the grip? I forgot to check the front.

If it is supposedly on the rear of the grip this is truly a princess and pea situation if you can feel it. Doubly so if the hump is a reason for a performance difference between pistols. No way on earth could I tell the difference other than overall length.

Not saying it doesn’t exist, but damn guys this seems like fantasy to me. Changing back straps would have massively more difference.

Also to the OP: G45. Because they are awesome to handle and if you don’t like it you can cut it down to a 19. Or a 26.

You’re missing the point.They don’t feel any different in the hand. How guns feel in the hand is b******t anyway.

But When you measure performance with timers and targets some people shoot one or the other A little bit better. In my experience about 10 to 15% difference and performance. And some people have no difference in performance between the two.

I’ve seen this play out multiple times with shooters at work Between Glock 17, 19, and 26s.

In my own case, I shoot the 17 grip guns slightly better than the 19s. I’ve also found that I shoot best with different size back straps on the 17 versus the 19. Didn’t figure that out until I tried shooting all the sizes and going off the results instead of the “feel. “

People who wear the same size glove can have different proportions and interact with the gun differently.

You may be one of those people who shoot the G 17 and 19 interchangeably But that doesn’t mean that’s true of everyone.

It’s just like with red dots vs irons. Personally I don’t have issues switching back-and-forth between red dots and irons but there are people who do.

[amyacker]

G19 but if you can deal with the longer grip length of the 19x/45 and like the balance of those, nothing wrong with the G45/19X either.

[jnc36rcpd]

I have both. In fairness, with the ammunition situation, I haven't shot the G45 that much. That said...

I didn't see a need for the G45 as the grip is usually more an issue for concealment than the barrel. That said, I really liked the balance of the G45 and chose that over a G17.

If the grip of the G45 is a better fir for you than that of the G19, go with the G45. If the grip of the G45 causes enough preinting in concealed carry to be an issue, go for the G19. I don't think you'll go wrong with either pistol.

[Sammy1]

You’re missing the point.They don’t feel any different in the hand. How guns feel in the hand is b******t anyway.

But When you measure performance with timers and targets some people shoot one or the other A little bit better. In my experience about 10 to 15% difference and performance. And some people have no difference in performance between the two.

I’ve seen this play out multiple times with shooters at work Between Glock 17, 19, and 26s.

In my own case, I shoot the 17 grip guns slightly better than the 19s. I’ve also found that I shoot best with different size back straps on the 17 versus the 19. Didn’t figure that out until I tried shooting all the sizes and going off the results instead of the “feel. “

People who wear the same size glove can have different proportions and interact with the gun differently.

You may be one of those people who shoot the G 17 and 19 interchangeably But that doesn’t mean that’s true of everyone.

It’s just like with red dots vs irons. Personally I don’t have issues switching back-and-forth between red dots and irons but there are people who do.

Another consideration is how you shoot. Shooting static bullseye target shooting is completely different than dynamic shooting under time. You may love the grip and think you can do anything with it until you're under pressure, moving or shooting in awkward positions.

[Rex G]

I was never vexed by any Glock “hump,” and never understood why anyone had an issue with it. As of the Gen4 models, the G19 and G17 fit me just fine, and “felt good.” They “pointed” the same, for me. I could easily get a three-finger grip on the G19, with my skinny fingers, so mag changes did not pinch anything. The Gen4 G19 finger grooves were a good-feeling fit. BUT, and it is a big BUT, I could never shoot a G19 nearly as well as a G17. I have always shot long-gripped pistols, with relatively square-butt grip profile, better than anything round-butted, or anything with a grip that does not brace firmly at the “heel bone” of my hand.

The final factor, mentioned above, is not just a Glock thing, in my case. The original-pattern Ruger GP100 factopry grip was found to be custom-level nirvana, in my hands. The subsequent compact, rounded-butt version was found to be a torture device, with Magnum loads, and my practical accuracy was reduced, with all loads. OTOH, a round-butt S&W grip is not a problem, for me, with accuracy, but I no longer shoot Magnum loads with round-butt S&W revolvers.

So, like HCM said, how a handgun “feels” can be a lie.

[kihnspiracy]

I have 1 of each. I prefer the 45 for its full sized grip and mags. My gen 4 19 has a magwell on it. So it feels better in my hands than a stock 19.