Fantastic shooting by Fremont CA motorcycle cop

[LittleLebowski]

Worth watching.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_1ZZlQT5Y

[fixer]

Fantastic work.

Well done.

[okie john]

Very nice work staying cool throughout the pursuit and especially once the bad guy started shooting.

Also, the camera might distort the perception of distance, but the range on that one looked pretty long.


Okie John

[Totem Polar]

^^^No matter how one slices this one, he made at least one high-stakes, low-percentage hit. Plus, he’s still standing. Pretty solid performance, in all.

[Ichiban]

I was rather surprised that the people in the traffic were attentive enough to see what was going on and stayed the hell out of the way.

Good job officer.

[GJM]

Bad ass motorcycle cop! I am having trouble understanding the sequence — did the officer bale off the bike at the shots, take cover and the perp try to go to the police bike?

[Lex Luthier]

Bad ass motorcycle cop! I am having trouble understanding the sequence — did the officer bale off the bike at the shots, take cover and the perp try to go to the police bike?

That is how I interpreted the sequence, too. Did I misinterpret, or did the officer roll when he dropped the bike?

[TC215]

Bad ass motorcycle cop! I am having trouble understanding the sequence — did the officer bale off the bike at the shots, take cover and the perp try to go to the police bike?

Yes, I think the bad guy was trying to steal the bike or take the long gun off of it.

Excellent shooting.

Also, motor pursuits scare the shit out of me. Those guys have ice water running through their veins.

[Dave Williams]

Nice and calm. Great shooting.

[CleverNickname]

Yes, I think the bad guy was trying to steal the bike or take the long gun off of it.
The officer said the guy's vehicle had a flat, so guessing that he was trying to steal the bike isn't an unreasonable assumption.

[Coyotesfan97]

Bad ass motorcycle cop! I am having trouble understanding the sequence — did the officer bale off the bike at the shots, take cover and the perp try to go to the police bike?

That’s what it looked to me. Outstanding job!

[GJM]

My heart rate went up watching that.

Shows there is a big difference between gaming and the real deal, here four Mike’s and an Alpha decisively won this “match.”

[Greg]

I would buy that guy a beer or 3.

[Clusterfrack]

Very hard to gauge distance in the video. Any guesses at the range he took the shots?

[0ddl0t]

Very hard to gauge distance in the video. Any guesses at the range he took the shots?

My guess is about 12-15 yards (based on the width of an interstate lane being 12 feet and the suspect looking to be about the distance of 3 lanes away).

[AKDoug]

Very hard to gauge distance in the video. Any guesses at the range he took the shots? My very unexperienced estimate is no more than 15 yards. I counted 10 to 12 steps from where he fired to the position he took by his downed motorcycle.

[Gater]

Some additional details in this official release:


https://youtu.be/_u4WvZHd1Ts

[Duelist]

The slow-motion captured in Gater’s clip clarify what the officer was seeing. Scary stuff!

[Robinson]

Damn. Nice work Officer.

[revchuck38]

My heart rate went up watching that.

Shows there is a big difference between gaming and the real deal, here four Mike’s and an Alpha decisively won this “match.”

He might have gotten more than one hit, we just saw the reaction after the fourth shot. Even if he only got the one hit, it was a good one, especially under the circumstances.

[Trooper224]

A perfect scenario with a perfect outcome.

[Det1397]

Incredible response under incredible stress! Way to go Burch.... As a motor cop, I wonder if he (they) train with their gloves on. Any clue on the handgun they carry, and used by Officer Burch? I’m thinking a P320 of some nature.
And I read someplace, the investigation felt the AlphaHotel was trying to get to the AR on the motor.

[Gater]

Additional image that gives a sense of ranges, albeit slant involved...some things moved, but you can see the relative position of suspect vehicle, dumped motor, and (probably) the brush to the officer's right when he engages:

70296

Very glad the officer came out on top.

[JCN]

Very hard to gauge distance in the video. Any guesses at the range he took the shots?


My guess is about 12-15 yards (based on the width of an interstate lane being 12 feet and the suspect looking to be about the distance of 3 lanes away).


My very unexperienced estimate is no more than 15 yards. I counted 10 to 12 steps from where he fired to the position he took by his downed motorcycle.

Agreed that it’s probably ~12-15 yards. I liked that the officer didn’t rush the shots and didn’t spray and pray. Perfect cadence for that situation.

[Mystery]

I don't get it.
Is getting killed better than getting jail time for stealing???

[0ddl0t]

I don't get it.
Is getting killed better than getting jail time for stealing???

I don't think it is wise to assume he was capable of reasoning like the rest of us. Without knowing the specifics of this perp, we know that criminals in general tend to:

Have below average IQs, suggesting they are less capable of looking ahead to weigh the consequences of their actions.

Be young, often before the part of the brain responsible for weighing consequences has fully developed (why auto insurance costs more for those under ~26).

Be men in their years of peak testosterone production (more likely to respond aggressively to confrontations).

Have less to lose (generally from poor socioeconomic situations with little hope for near-term improvement "the right way").



Obviously not everyone from those categories is criminal, but if you took 100 people at random from society and compared them with 100 people falling in the above categories, you'd see a lot more instances of (dumb/short sighted) criminal behavior among the later.

[Caballoflaco]

I don't get it.
Is getting killed better than getting jail time for stealing???

For a lot of people yes. The the same people would also happily trade your life or a cops life to avoid jail. If you can’t understand the thought process then you just need to accept the fact that just like water is wet bad guys don’t think like you do right now.

I’m not trying to be a dick, but too many people spend too much time worrying about “why” some humans are capable of acts thqt others either aren’t or have had socialized out of them. Human beings are the apex predator of our planet and the only reason there are even surviving populations of other large predators is because we decided as a species that they add to aesthetic.

[Coyotesfan97]

I don't get it.
Is getting killed better than getting jail time for stealing???

I tend to belief criminals live in the moment with little impulse control. They don’t think about the consequences of their action in the future and act on them. A lot, if not most, grew up in a violent subculture where the use of violence happens all the time. They don’t hesitate to use it if it furthers what they want. We are prey to career criminals.

If you haven’t read any of Marc MacYoung’s books I’d encourage you too. He talks about this extensively.

[Duelist]

I don't get it.
Is getting killed better than getting jail time for stealing???

This dude also had apparently committed a prior act of attempted murder, where he shot a victim repeatedly, including in the back of the head as the man lay bleeding on the ground.

I’m not losing any sleep over the felon taking a dirt nap. He earned it, and a good cop gave it to him.

[RevolverRob]

I don't get it.
Is getting killed better than getting jail time for stealing???

Trying to understand and rationalize the actions of sociopaths will leave you with a headache.

When one realizes that these individuals have no compunction with hurting or killing others then one realizes that rational and logical thinking is off the table. These are not rational people, they're emotional people with incredibly poor impulse control, and minimal sense of empathy. Many of these people are actually broken beyond repair, which is why we have so many repeat offenders in our country.

Remember the words of wisdom from the late Dr. William Aprill: THEY ARE NOT YOU.

[Hot Sauce]

I don't get it.
Is getting killed better than getting jail time for stealing???Start here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmkXFWyIDPc

[HCM]

Trying to understand and rationalize the actions of sociopaths will leave you with a headache.

When one realizes that these individuals have no compunction with hurting or killing others then one realizes that rational and logical thinking is off the table. These are not rational people, they're emotional people with incredibly poor impulse control, and minimal sense of empathy. Many of these people are actually broken beyond repair, which is why we have so many repeat offenders in our country.

Remember the words of wisdom from the late Dr. William Aprill: THEY ARE NOT YOU.

No evidence this subject was a sociopath. You are right about them having poor impulse control and little empathy and that many are broken beyond repair but they have their own rational process. It's based on their world view and values so on the surface it seems irrational to us but to them it's perfectly logical. Hence "They are not you."

[kwb377]

Another piece of shit flushed...good job Motorscout! I owe you a beer.

[Doc_Glock]

Agreed that it’s probably ~12-15 yards. I liked that the officer didn’t rush the shots and didn’t spray and pray. Perfect cadence for that situation.

Agreed. Wow, just great really calm focused shooting.