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P30
04-09-2021, 12:20 PM
I'm pretty sure, if I were to ask for the greatest James Bond actor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#Eon_Productions_films) of all time, Sean Connery would win. But except for him, who's the best Bond?

Guerrero
04-09-2021, 12:37 PM
That's a hard choice. They've all had good and bad runs (except for Lazenby, who had one that was both good and bad).

Moore in "Man with the Golden Gun"? Good. Moore in "Moonraker" and "A View to a Kill"? Awful.

Dalton in "License to Kill"? Good. Dalton in "The Living Daylights"? Not so good.

Robinson
04-09-2021, 12:41 PM
I like the direction the Bond movies went in with Daniel Craig. Not only his portrayal of the character, but a slightly less campy more human feel to the movies. I mean, Quantum of Solace was more or less about Bond's personal quest for revenge.

Casino Royale (2006) remains my favorite Bond film.

RJ
04-09-2021, 12:44 PM
I’m a Boomer, and went with Daniel Craig. In fact I think he’s tied with Sean Connery as the prototype MI6 hard man assassin in a Savile Row suit.

Chance
04-09-2021, 01:21 PM
I'm partial to Daniel Craig, but he couldn't really pull off that effortless charm. I think Brosnan had the charm, but he didn't have an edge.

If Daniel Craig and Pierce Brosnan had a baby, it'd come in second after Sean Connery.

APS-PF
04-09-2021, 01:28 PM
My first exposure to James Bond was Roger Moore. But I always thought Timothy Dalton had that cheeky spy look about him and The Living Daylights was released right when I was starting to go to movies without adults. Though I have never read the Bond novels, I have read posts from those that have that said Dalton in License to Kill was the closest to the Bond from the novels.
I do prefer the special effects of the Craig Bond movies.

ccmdfd
04-09-2021, 01:56 PM
Loved Rodger Moore when I was a kid growing up.

Once I became an adult I would look at those movies and go " what was I thinking!?"

I loved Craig in Casino Royale. His other ones have been more so so to me.

Read an interesting article one day about how the bond we had was the right Bond for the times. The 70s was a time of camp and a campy Bond was good for that time. If you took a copy of Casino Royale with Craig into a time machine and took it back into the 1970's, many people would just outright die in the theater. Probably wouldn't even be able to squeeze a Rated-R out of that.

RevolverRob
04-09-2021, 02:09 PM
Big fan of all the books, but especially the first 4-5. Daniel Craig is the closest to the sociopath that Fleming wrote; in what I think is the truest form of Bond. Once the movies started, Fleming kind of cleaned up Bond and he was not the same character as in earlier books.

As a result, I'm inclined to like the original Bond and the actor that gets closest to him.

okie john
04-09-2021, 02:41 PM
All of those movies were of a time, so Bond had to deal death and lay pipe in ways that censors and audiences would tolerate.

Moore was a victim of making the franchise a comedy, so he was too ridiculous too many times for me.

Dalton and Brosnan were improvements.

Craig nailed it in a way that’s right for the early 21st century.

I’d like to see a young Connery turned loose on a Craig script.


Okie John

pooty
04-09-2021, 02:57 PM
Lashana Lynch


https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lashana-lynch-attends-marvel-studios-captain-marvel-premiere-on-march-picture-id1133728791?s=612x612

BigD
04-09-2021, 03:28 PM
In the whole Roger vs. Sean deabte that's been raging for the last 40 years, I have to say I'm firmly in the Roger camp. I believe no one could, sort of, wear a safari suit with the same degree of casuality as Roger.

Casual Friday
04-09-2021, 03:31 PM
Daniel Craig, but Pierce Brosnan gets an honorable mention though simply because the movie GoldenEye spawned one of the greatest video games of all time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoldenEye_007_(1997_video_game)).

Cory
04-09-2021, 03:52 PM
I perfer Craig over all the bonds. Including Connery.

Casino Royal was the first Bond movie I saw in theater, and I've made it a point to see every Craig as Bond movie in theater since then.

His Nolan-esque movies just suit my sense of Bond better. I saw all the previous Bond's in the hayday of Spike TV when I was a kid, but Craig's Bond came out when I was 15. And here was a Bond that was far more realistic. I look forward to the final installment. Big shoes to fill.

Casual Friday
04-09-2021, 04:04 PM
I perfer Craig over all the bonds. Including Connery.

Casino Royal was the first Bond movie I saw in theater, and I've made it a point to see every Craig as Bond movie in theater since then.

His Nolan-esque movies just suit my sense of Bond better. I saw all the previous Bond's in the hayday of Spike TV when I was a kid, but Craig's Bond came out when I was 15. And here was a Bond that was far more realistic. I look forward to the final installment. Big shoes to fill.

It's hard to believe it's been 15 years with Craig in the role as Bond. I was 26 with a new baby when Casino Royale came out. It was about 4 years after the last Pierce Brosnan Bond film but was miles better. Feels like yesterday and a million years ago at the same time.

cheby
04-09-2021, 04:27 PM
Personally I really don't like the direction of the Bond movies went to with Craig. They just became yet another action movie. One of them, no different. Bond movies, however, were about style and unique feel. With Craig, they lost it.

RJ
04-09-2021, 04:44 PM
Personally I really don't like the direction of the Bond movies went to with Craig. They just became yet another action movie. One of them, no different. Bond movies, however, were about style and unique feel. With Craig, they lost it.

Hmm.

I thought the very long, single take shot at the intro of Spectre was pretty well done.


https://youtu.be/cbqv1kbsNUY

CleverNickname
04-09-2021, 06:02 PM
Three-way tossup between Peter Sellers, David Niven and Woody Allen.

cheby
04-09-2021, 06:34 PM
Hmm.

I thought the very long, single take shot at the intro of Spectre was pretty well done.


https://youtu.be/cbqv1kbsNUY
I am not saying they are bad movies. Just not "Bond" movies

rd62
04-09-2021, 08:22 PM
Craig is my favorite also. I like the physicality he brought to the character as well as the dark brooding attitude.

Suvorov
04-09-2021, 08:31 PM
George Lazenby - was the closest to the real deal, which is why he didn't last.

Daniel Craig couldn't even drive a stick shift when he was filming his first movie which pretty much make him the first female Bond actor in my book.

JSGlock34
04-09-2021, 08:36 PM
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pooty
04-09-2021, 08:49 PM
I am not saying they are bad movies. Just not "Bond" movies

Craig 007 is the Bourne movies but in a tuxedo.

JSGlock34
04-09-2021, 08:52 PM
Craig 007 is the Bourne movies but in a tuxedo.

James Bond, Jason Bourne, and Jack Bauer are all pretty much the same humorless guy.

RevolverRob
04-09-2021, 09:20 PM
Personally I really don't like the direction of the Bond movies went to with Craig. They just became yet another action movie. One of them, no different. Bond movies, however, were about style and unique feel. With Craig, they lost it.

It really depends on what you think of as a "Bond movie" and what you think of as "Bond".

The first two movies, Dr. No and From Russia with Love; and Craig's first movie (Casino Royale) are the truest movies to their original books. Aside from updating Casino Royal to fit the modern era, that movie is almost the book verbatim.

It's also only those first two movies where Ian Fleming was alive to provide context and help with film production. He died before Goldfinger was completed.

For me the Craig films are the truest Bond films after the first two.

The remainders are campy fluff that are fun to watch, but are in many ways a distinct subset of Bond films.


James Bond, Jason Bourne, and Jack Bauer are all pretty much the same humorless guy.

Yea. They're supposed to be dull, cold, unfeeling, and unencumbered men, who put country and duty before all else. Humor, in as much as it is found, is a distraction from work. These characters are meant to be fundamentally flawed and broken humans who do the jobs they do, because it's the job that fits them. Fleming himself said in several interviews he conceptualized Bond to be a neutral party, at best.

Excerpted from an interview in Playboy in 1964:


I don't think that he is necessarily a good guy or a bad guy. Who is? He's got his vices and very few perceptible virtues except patriotism and courage, which are probably not virtues anyway ... But I didn't intend for him to be a particularly likeable person."

"James Bond is a healthy, violent, noncerebral man in his middle-thirties, and a creature of his era. I wouldn't say he's particularly typical of our times, but he's certainly of the times."

Robinson
04-10-2021, 12:22 AM
I don't think that he is necessarily a good guy or a bad guy. Who is? He's got his vices and very few perceptible virtues except patriotism and courage, which are probably not virtues anyway ... But I didn't intend for him to be a particularly likeable person."

"James Bond is a healthy, violent, noncerebral man in his middle-thirties, and a creature of his era. I wouldn't say he's particularly typical of our times, but he's certainly of the times."

Interesting and provides insight into the Bond character. But it makes me think Fleming would annoy the shit out of me, as I consider patriotism and courage to be virtues indeed.

spyderco monkey
04-10-2021, 04:21 AM
Pierce Brosnan.

-Looks like he was genetically engineered to play James Bond
-Effortless cool of Sean Connery
-Humor / puns / womanizing of Roger Moore
-Maintained and built upon the Ruthlessness shown by Dalton in License to Kill
-Wasn't a Brooding Bond like Craig; like the books, Pierce is a killer with no regrets or personal doubts

He really represented the Goldilocks zone of all of the Bond actors.

Tomorrow Never Dies is in my eye the perfect Bond film. Girls, Guns, Gadgets on a globe spanning set encompassing land sea and air, and paired with a plausible and wonderful Villain.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5120lnAG2KL.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqrk7-mx2D0

Bucky
04-10-2021, 05:08 AM
No love for David Niven? ;)

P30
04-10-2021, 06:07 AM
I doubt Pierce Brosnan would have endured a kindergarten fight in reality. Poor gun handling reinforces this suspicion. He was a womanizer, OK, but not a believable James Bond for me. Also the action scenes in Brosnan movies were so unrealistic, I could not take it seriously.

Daniel Craig is a believable Bond for me. In addition to typical Bond attributes, he has a "hard working man" dimension, "knows what he's doing" aura to him. In one episode somebody told him: "You wear this smoking but you despise it." This is what I mean. He has given the role heart and substance again, not only a superficial elegance.

Damn, this was open and honest, I hope it's OK. I suppose, Brosnan could stand my criticism with all his millions dollars as compensation.

CSW
04-10-2021, 06:35 AM
I perfer Craig over all the bonds. Including Connery.

Casino Royal was the first Bond movie I saw in theater, and I've made it a point to see every Craig as Bond movie in theater since then.

His Nolan-esque movies just suit my sense of Bond better. I saw all the previous Bond's in the hayday of Spike TV when I was a kid, but Craig's Bond came out when I was 15. And here was a Bond that was far more realistic. I look forward to the final installment. Big shoes to fill.

Grew up watching Bond, Man from UNCLE, the Saint, Mission Impossible and the rest. It was all about the wayyyyy cool gadgets

IMO, Craig is an excellent Bond, gritty, and dark to a point.
Connery, well, he's just Connery, in a role that he portrayed well.
Roger Moore was just a boor....shittiest Bond ever, and the story lines just sucked.
Between Dalton and Brosnan, I choose Dalton, only for the way he portrayed the character as a bit darker and vengeful. Brosnan, too campy.
I don't think Lazenby ever got a fair shake in the series.

The thought of making the next 007 a woman, well, not being sexist, but that's just catering and cow-towing. The Bond character was created for a dude.

TGS
04-10-2021, 06:40 AM
I doubt Pierce Brosnan would have endured a kindergarten fight in reality. Poor gun handling reinforces this suspicion. He was a womanizer, OK, but not a believable James Bond for me. Also the action scenes in Brosnan movies were so unrealistic, I could not take it seriously.

Daniel Craig is a believable Bond for me. In addition to typical Bond attributes, he has a "hard working man" dimension, "knows what he's doing" aura to him. In one episode somebody told him: "You wear this smoking but you despise it." This is what I mean. He has given the role heart and substance again, not only a superficial elegance.

Damn, this was open and honest, I hope it's OK. I suppose, Brosnan could stand my criticism with all his millions dollars as compensation.

Wow, you hit my thoughts exactly.

I could never stand the Brosnan iteration.

spyderco monkey
04-10-2021, 06:49 AM
Grew up watching Bond, Man from UNCLE, the Saint, Mission Impossible and the rest. It was all about the wayyyyy cool gadgets



Thats one of my biggest complaints with the Craig era Bonds - they've almost entirely done away with the James Bond gadgets, which were a hallmark of the entire franchise.

I think all we've gotten from the Craig films was a car built poison detector/defribralator in Casino, and the tiny Radio in Skyfall.

Ironically this lack of gadgets occurs in a digital age where Bond's gadgets would be increasingly plausible. Pretty easy to stick a Bluetooth explosives detonator in Bond's watch today, or have his smart phone be usable to drive his car, etc.

BWT
04-10-2021, 08:35 AM
Part of the fun the bonds for me as a kid was the jokes.

Now it’s a bit painful to watch.

I do miss the gadgets and fun / playful aspects of the older Bond movies.

I haven’t watched the new ones beyond Casino Royale and the one with the evil villain from no country from old men.

I’m also working in a new-ish more challenging job professionally and having a second baby later on this month - serious movies or shock value for the sake of shock value just don’t appeal to me right now.

I think as others have said I think it might be the Jason Bourne movies influencing this. Before Jason Bourne there was talk about spy movies perhaps not having a market towards the end of the Brosnan era.

That being said!

I do appreciate elements of the new movies for realism of gun handling. Beams of sun coming off of a reflective satellite dish by the North Koreans was probably a low point.

That being said a go go gadget wrist watch never hurt anybody!

ETA: I also grew up and have tons of memories playing Golden Eye the video game. Brosnan probably gets a pass from me for sentimental reasons for that. That being said I don’t like any of his other movies a ton.

JSGlock34
04-10-2021, 12:14 PM
Yea. They're supposed to be dull, cold, unfeeling, and unencumbered men, who put country and duty before all else. Humor, in as much as it is found, is a distraction from work. These characters are meant to be fundamentally flawed and broken humans who do the jobs they do, because it's the job that fits them. Fleming himself said in several interviews he conceptualized Bond to be a neutral party, at best.

Sure, and it was probably inevitable that a post 9/11 Bond would take a darker turn. But in doing so the franchise formula - which had been often copied by other films over the previous decades - seemed derivative for the first time.

I still think Casino Royale is one of the best Bond movies - and certainly the best adaptation of one of Fleming's books - in the entire series. But many of the actual Bond elements seem forced. The Craig era has never been able to incorporate gadgets - the tracking device in Casino Royale only seems to exist so that Le Chiffre can inexplicably remove it. It's just bad writing. Similarly, they seem incapable of moving on from the Walther PPK or Aston Martin DB-V. Undoubtedly I am in the minority, but I'm tired of the latter's continuous resurrection. I think the producers cling to these elements because they are reliable Bond call-backs.


I doubt Pierce Brosnan would have endured a kindergarten fight in reality. Poor gun handling reinforces this suspicion. He was a womanizer, OK, but not a believable James Bond for me. Also the action scenes in Brosnan movies were so unrealistic, I could not take it seriously.

I give Brosnan a lot of credit for reviving the franchise with Goldeneye. I blame the writing, direction, and casting of the later Brosnan era films for taking the turn towards camp.

His portrayal of the Russian spy in The Fourth Protocol is far more cold-blooded and ruthless than any take on Bond that has appeared on the big screen. Unfortunately, this film is hard to find, even in the internet era, but I think it has held up well and recommend it.

AMC
04-10-2021, 12:37 PM
Sure, and it was probably inevitable that a post 9/11 Bond would take a darker turn. But in doing so the franchise formula - which had been often copied by other films over the previous decades - seemed derivative for the first time.

I still think Casino Royale is one of the best Bond movies - and certainly the best adaptation of one of Fleming's books - in the entire series. But many of the actual Bond elements seem forced. The Craig era has never been able to incorporate gadgets - the tracking device in Casino Royale only seems to exist so that Le Chiffre can inexplicably remove it. It's just bad writing. Similarly, they seem incapable of moving on from the Walther PPK or Aston Martin DB-V. Undoubtedly I am in the minority, but I'm tired of the latter's continuous resurrection. I think the producers cling to these elements because they are reliable Bond call-backs.



I give Brosnan a lot of credit for reviving the franchise with Goldeneye. I blame the writing, direction, and casting of the later Brosnan era films for taking the turn towards camp.

His portrayal of the Russian spy in The Fourth Protocol is far more cold-blooded and ruthless than any take on Bond that has appeared on the big screen. Unfortunately, this film is hard to find, even in the internet era, but I think it has held up well and recommend it.

I agree, that was an excellent, highly underrated film.

Mark D
04-10-2021, 12:45 PM
Good thread

As a kid I read all of Ian Fleming's Bond books, and I'm old enough to have seen most of the films. Daniel Craig is my favorite, by a long shot. And Casino Royale is his best Bond film, by a mile. The foot chase was epic - much better than the usual tedious car chase:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g9-ms7L-Ms

And the bathroom fight scene (Craig's first "kill") is the best Bond fight - gritty, ugly, and violent - like most real fights.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvr6uRvESvM

I don't care that the gadgets are not a big feature now. When Fleming wrote the books, electronic gadgets were still scarce and unique. Now they're ubiquitous in daily life and not worth much attention.

As for Craig's somewhat grim and cold portrayal of Bond, I've spent a small amount of time around guys who's job was to shoot people in the face on behalf of the government. In many ways, they're not dissimilar to Craig's depiction of Bond - athletic, intelligent but not cerebral, highly committed, patriotic, unemotional and serious.

Unfortunately, I expect the Bond movies will be become increasingly woke and lame in the future.

Coyotesfan97
04-10-2021, 12:55 PM
It really depends on what you think of as a "Bond movie" and what you think of as "Bond".

The first two movies, Dr. No and From Russia with Love; and Craig's first movie (Casino Royale) are the truest movies to their original books. Aside from updating Casino Royal to fit the modern era, that movie is almost the book verbatim.

It's also only those first two movies where Ian Fleming was alive to provide context and help with film production. He died before Goldfinger was completed.

For me the Craig films are the truest Bond films after the first two.

The remainders are campy fluff that are fun to watch, but are in many ways a distinct subset of Bond films.


Rob sums up why I like Craig’s Bond. I read all the books. Craig and Connery are Bond to me.

RevolverRob
04-10-2021, 01:16 PM
I've spent a small amount of time around guys who's job was to shoot people in the face on behalf of the government. In many ways, they're not dissimilar to Craig's depiction of Bond - intelligent but not cerebral, highly committed, patriotic, unemotional and serious.

That's probably because even though the era changes the characteristics of men do not. Bearing in mind that Bond is a compilation of different people that Fleming worked with during his time in OSS, it's not at all surprising to me that he captured the core of them as people so effectively. Write what you know, right?

In that realm Fleming merely wrote Bond as an extension of people who were "Lifers" in Intelligence and Direct Action services post-war.

My take, post-9/11 Bond is merely the same man different era.

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We'll see how No Time To Die actually is when it comes out.

Mark D
04-10-2021, 01:23 PM
That's probably because even though the era changes the characteristics of men do not. Bearing in mind that Bond is a compilation of different people that Fleming worked with during his time in OSS, it's not at all surprising to me that he captured the core of them as people so effectively. Write what you know, right?

In that realm Fleming merely wrote Bond as an extension of people who were "Lifers" in Intelligence and Direct Action services post-war.

My take, post-9/11 Bond is merely the same man different era.

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We'll see how No Time To Die actually is when it comes out.

I did not know, or had forgotten, that Fleming was in the British Intelligence. So your connection between WWII Intelligence hard men and modern Tier 1 face shooters makes perfect sense.

Shotgun
04-10-2021, 01:42 PM
I believe no one could wear a safari suit with the same degree of casuality as Roger.

I took out the "sort of" in BigD's original to convey my thought. Roger was the most aristocratic of the bunch.

45dotACP
04-10-2021, 02:24 PM
Which Bond you like kinda depends on how seriously you see movies. I remember thinking as a kid that all the cool gadgets were basically why you watched James Bond. As a kid I couldn't care less for the womanizing or the vodka martinis. I was there for shootouts, car chases, and cool toys.

That meant as a kid, Pierce Brosnan was the fucking man. He was just so effortlessly cool. Way cooler than Roger Moore...and really they were both the campiest Bonds.

But damn do I remember watching Casino Royale and in particular, that foot chase where the bad guy is parkour-ing over walls and how my view of who James Bond was changed when he just ran right through that wall. Pierce Brosnan, Roger Moore...hell even Sean Connery would never do that. I hated Craig's Bond for a while as a kid.

As a kid, you believe in whizz bang gadgets and wristwatch lasers and evil villains with bizarre henchmen.

But when you grow up, you realize that the villains are more banal than the dude with the cat. You realize that quippy one liners are less about you showing your cool and ironic affect and more about a refusal to show vulnerability, and that winning involves involves knowing your limits.

Can't parkour over life's problems? Then it's time to suck it up and run through them.

It'll hurt.

But when you're taking a beating or three you accept that life has pain and the things that get you through it aren't gadgets or wry one liners and arched eyebrows, but rather the shit you know how to do and your will to do them even when it sucks.

I love Daniel Craigs Bond now. Because I am a grown up, and he is the Bond for grown ups. Pierce Brosnan is the Bond for kids.

But Sean Connery reigns supreme.

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NEPAKevin
04-10-2021, 02:37 PM
George Lazenby - was the closest to the real deal, which is why he didn't last.



And after shagging a young Diana Rigg...

Suvorov
04-10-2021, 02:39 PM
And after shagging a young Diana Rigg...

Sure as heck tops anything I got.

jh9
04-10-2021, 04:03 PM
James Bond, Jason Bourne, and Jack Bauer are all pretty much the same humorless guy.

Nobody's mentioned this yet?

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/why-daniel-craig-felt-the-austin-powers-films-fcked-james-bond.html/
https://news.avclub.com/daniel-craig-says-that-austin-powers-fucked-the-james-1798274537

If you believe Craig, it's Austin Powers that's responsible for the super serious Bond movies. They did campy Bond jokes better than actual Bond movies. Where do you go from there?

ccmdfd
04-10-2021, 04:17 PM
After reading many posts, and reflecting a bit more myself:

Kind of hard, difficult separating the actors from the movies. For instance, I will take Moore in Man with the Golden Gun over Connery in some of his later installments. But I will also take Connery in Dr No as well as Craig in Casino Royale over pretty much anything else.

Same kind of thing for gadgets. As many others have stated when I was a kid they were really one of the things that Drew me to the theater. However when I got older and not so much. That being said, who in their right mind wouldn't want the car from Goldfinger, even as an adult? I mean Wing mounted machine guns, smokescreen generator, oil slick generator, and an ejector seat for the passenger!

Many of the later gadgets just didn't do it. They felt more like something that would belong on the bat belt.

BigD
04-10-2021, 04:21 PM
I took out the "sort of" in BigD's original to convey my thought. Roger was the most aristocratic of the bunch.

Confession time. That’s an Alan Patridge quote. Aha!

But it sums up my feelings about Roger.

Hambo
04-10-2021, 04:41 PM
Connery and Craig are the best, but Brosnan had a true Bond scene. Bond is a killer, and for me there are three scenes where that really comes out.

Dr. No: when Bond kills his would be assassin and throws an extra round in him for good measure.

Tomorrow Never Dies: when Bond kills the assassin with his own P7 while the assassin pleads with him.

Casino Royale: Bond's second kill.

JSGlock34
04-10-2021, 05:30 PM
Connery and Craig are the best, but Brosnan had a true Bond scene. Bond is a killer, and for me there are three scenes where that really comes out.

Dr. No: when Bond kills his would be assassin and throws an extra round in him for good measure.

Tomorrow Never Dies: when Bond kills the assassin with his own P7 while the assassin pleads with him.

Casino Royale: Bond's second kill.

What, no love for Roger Moore?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-f0DwbNF08

spyderco monkey
04-10-2021, 06:00 PM
Connery and Craig are the best, but Brosnan had a true Bond scene. Bond is a killer, and for me there are three scenes where that really comes out.

Tomorrow Never Dies: when Bond kills the assassin with his own P7 while the assassin pleads with him.



Dr. Kaufman; that look in Brosnan's eye. Scene begins 3:30


https://youtu.be/NH85zxU4tqU?t=201

Theres a later scene in Tomorrow Never Dies that also stuck with me. He's sneaking into the stealth boat, and Bond straight up stabs a guard in the heart with boot knife, then uses his body to fake his own death. Sadly I can't find a clip of it.

Wendell
04-10-2021, 06:01 PM
I'm pretty sure, if I were to ask for the greatest James Bond actor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#Eon_Productions_films) of all time, Sean Connery would win. But except for him, who's the best Bond?

The second Casino Royale was, for me, the first time that 'James Bond' was ever believable.

In (the second) Casino Royale, Daniel Craig's 'Bond' was a real soldier, and he looked like one; he looked like he'd just got back from Afganistan.


https://youtu.be/HNvzNWuzI9Y?t=140

Hambo
04-11-2021, 03:32 AM
What, no love for Roger Moore?

I've never been able to make it all the way through a Bond movie with Roger Moore.

spyderco monkey
04-11-2021, 06:21 AM
His portrayal of the Russian spy in The Fourth Protocol is far more cold-blooded and ruthless than any take on Bond that has appeared on the big screen. Unfortunately, this film is hard to find, even in the internet era, but I think it has held up well and recommend it.

Thank you for the suggestion, I watched The Fourth Protocol last night on youtube:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF93wp2Pe_E

You're absolutely right, he's a total sociopath in this one.

JSGlock34
04-11-2021, 08:56 AM
Thank you for the suggestion, I watched The Fourth Protocol last night on youtube:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF93wp2Pe_E

You're absolutely right, he's a total sociopath in this one.

Glad you liked it. Good find - I guess I've been looking for it on Amazon, Netflix, etc. Looks there are even some better quality transfers than the old import DVD I have.

Interestingly, Brosnan gets cast in that movie when he is unable to start as Bond due to the renewal of Remington Steele.

Casual Friday
04-13-2021, 11:41 AM
Mrs. Casual Friday and I watched Casino Royale Sunday evening, and Quantum of Solace last night before bed.

They flow nicely when viewed back to back, something that doesn't always happen in movies that pick up where another left off.

Sad to say, but I think when the Craig era ends, so will the Bond movies as we know them.

beenalongtime
04-13-2021, 02:39 PM
The first movie I remember was Live and Let Die. Great song, as I got older, Jane Seymour, fun chase scenes, great for a kid of three.
When I grew a little older, I became a fan of a show called Dr. Who. Different actors, playing the same character, but with slight differences of personality, etc. I grew to look at the Bond films the same way. (each has aspects that appealed to me at different stages of life)

So for me, overall, the best Bond actor, isn't one who played Bond, but Desmond Llewelyn, who played Q.
Had an unlimited budget, to come up with idea's and projects. Had fun in his work. Generally got to tell those who abused his work to shove off. And could make me laugh. I would say across any Bond, he was the one whose scenes I looked for, no matter which Bond.