Home brew P365X perfect for Exec Protection and EDC

[CarlK]

Now that Sig has announced the P365X (P365 slide w/ optic cut coupled with a P365XL grip) many folks will discover just how practical this combination is. I have run the P365 with the XL grip for going on two years now and haven’t looked back as this combination just works well for me. I recently upgraded to a Zev Octane slide, added an RMSc red dot, and finished the package off with a gray, OEM XL grip module and rubber Talon Grips. I have an identically equipped P365XL but typically go with the P365 in a Dark Star Gear Hitchhiker holster (I did need to modify the holster with a cut for the optic) for edc.

I packed my gear up and headed from Seattle to Miami, FL for LaSorsa and Associates 9 day Executive Protection Agent training last month and was impressed with the performance of the home brew P365X. I was shooting the smallest handgun in the class of 16 students but my scores were right up there with those that were using full-size duty pistols. In most protection missions the need to be discrete is paramount yet you also need to have ‘enough gun’ to effectively manage deadly force encounters. The 3.1” barreled P365 is very accurate and having 12+1 in the gun before a reload with 15 more rounds is definitely sufficient for the first several seconds of such an encounter. There have been zero malfunctions through over 900 rounds fired over the life of the gun so I am confident in the reliability.

We had an opportunity to shoot duty ammo into bare, clear gelatin and the Winchester Ranger 147 gr RA9T displayed 12-13” of penetration with perfect expansion through my P365.

I just installed the boresightsolutions Razorback grip module and will update this thread once I get to wring it out some. I like how the grip resembles the Walther PPS M1 and locks into my hand during the draw and presentation.

Here’s an 8 second video of one of the basic drills from class using the P365X:
https://youtu.be/_PJKIRC4arI

[Up1911Fan]

I shipped a P365 slide and RMRcc to Mark Housel today. Boresite Solutions shipped my P365XL grip module out today. Looking forward to working with that combo.

[tlong17]

I too have become attached to this combo and the Razorback mod from Ben is incredible. Changes how the gun shoots for me and makes the tiny pistol much easier to handle.

I chose to stick with the regular 365 length grip but often use the 12 round (14 with magguts) for the same length as the XL. I like the option to go extremely short when needed. It absolutely disappears in an Enigma. 12 rounds in the 10 round length with magguts is pretty compelling.

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[JCN]

Count me in on this as a carry setup for the past couple years too.

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[RJ]

Good thread, very interesting.

Our P365 has always been slightly too short for me. The 12 round mags w basepad fillers work, but I might be tempted to just order an XL grip module and use the mags 12+1 with the XL basepads.

[CarlK]

One more pic

[YVK]

Nice.
I feel a little connected to this thread because I asked Ben about doing Razorback on P365 probably a year ago, before they made it an available option on that gun. I myself abandoned the 365 idea but I am glad they decided to do it.

[Hot Cereal]

I don’t love the XL grip around the mag well. Doesn’t look like there’s much of the baseplate available to grab and rip out if the need arose.

[JCN]

I don’t love the XL grip around the mag well. Doesn’t look like there’s much of the baseplate available to grab and rip out if the need arose.

Grip modules are ~$40, you could Dremel a notch for that (eliminating the flared magwell might also help reduce printing a little). Or carry a 15 round magazine with the extension...

[D-der]

I'm new on the block here, long time observer and very
much appreciate all the information and Knowledge here.

I've got a pretty well vetted 365XL and find it to be a
pretty neat, accurate little gun but find the small grip
difficult to get a consistent firing grip on out of the holster.
I'm currently running a double layer of Talon grips which do
help, but the Razorback module looks like a pretty good
option, do you find it larger, more hand filling than the
original module, does it change the perceived grip angle ?

[CarlK]

I'm new on the block here, long time observer and very
much appreciate all the information and Knowledge here.

I've got a pretty well vetted 365XL and find it to be a
pretty neat, accurate little gun but find the small grip
difficult to get a consistent firing grip on out of the holster.
I'm currently running a double layer of Talon grips which do
help, but the Razorback module looks like a pretty good
option, do you find it larger, more hand filling than the
original module, does it change the perceived grip angle ?

The Razorback definitely fills in the grip circumference. I too use the Talon Grips on my P365XL - but only one layer - and decided that I won’t need to add anything more to the new Razorback. Welcome to P-F !

[D-der]

Thanks!
Appreciate both, the feedback and the welcome.

[GJM]

Slide only:

https://www.sigsauer.com/slide-assembly-p365x-9mm-x-ray3-w-ns-plate-blk.html

[CR78]

I'm trying to find this grip module on the Boresight website; it looks like a grip module with the Razorback modification is $300+. Is that correct, or am I simply not finding the right option?

[D-der]

365XL Razorback module is listed at $364.99

[GJM]

365XL Razorback module is listed at $364.99

How does it compare to this:


https://grayguns.com/product/p365-p365xl-laser-sculpted-grip-modules/

[YVK]

How does it compare to this:


https://grayguns.com/product/p365-p365xl-laser-sculpted-grip-modules/

GGI is same dimensionally as OEM. Razorback adds material to the backstrap which is what I was interested in when I talked to them. I decided that I wanted more than just the hump, and stuck with G-guns.

[SouthNarc]

How does it compare to this:


https://grayguns.com/product/p365-p365xl-laser-sculpted-grip-modules/

I've got the Razorback XL grip module and for me subjectively it's a game changer in controllability for the little gun.

[SouthNarc]

Boresight XL/Razorback frame with standard 365 slide.

[tlong17]

Slide only:

https://www.sigsauer.com/slide-assembly-p365x-9mm-x-ray3-w-ns-plate-blk.html

Smart to roll that slide out for individual sale at the same time. They will sell a lot of those. Or maybe it isn’t smart because they could force people to buy a whole new gun to get the slide? Hmm. I’m sure they did the math and ran the probabilities, it’s Sig.

[Hideeho]

Another home brew variation, this with Icarus Precision aluminum frame and Dawson fiber optic sights front and rear, and a Sig flat trigger.

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[D-der]

Boresight XL/Razorback frame with standard 365 slide.

Kinda pricey, to be unsure if the desired outcome will be achieved, but...
I'm tempted

[tlong17]

Kinda pricey, to be unsure if the desired outcome will be achieved, but...
I'm tempted

Easy to resell if needed.

[ssb]

Slide only:

https://www.sigsauer.com/slide-assembly-p365x-9mm-x-ray3-w-ns-plate-blk.html

I bought one. Need to source a barrel though.

[Crusader8207]

Just received the Raven Concealment Perun for the 365. So happy they released it finally.

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[GJM]

Just received the Raven Concealment Perun for the 365. So happy they released it finally.

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That seems like a lot of holster for a 365!

[Crusader8207]

That seems like a lot of holster for a 365!

I'm using it with the XL slide. I like it a lot. Plus for $39 it's hard to beat. :)

[GJM]

I've got the Razorback XL grip module and for me subjectively it's a game changer in controllability for the little gun.

How does the texture feel next to your skin?

[SouthNarc]

How does the texture feel next to your skin?

Erotic.:D


It's not to bad but all Ben's guns can err on the rough side.

[RevolverRob]

Another home brew variation, this with Icarus Precision aluminum frame and Dawson fiber optic sights front and rear, and a Sig flat trigger.

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Does the Icarus add girth the the base/heel of the grip (like the Boresight does) or copy OEM dimensions?

I got hands on with a 365 this weekend. It's nigh perfect except it drops away too much at the heel.

[Hideeho]

Does the Icarus add girth the the base/heel of the grip (like the Boresight does) or copy OEM dimensions?

I got hands on with a 365 this weekend. It's nigh perfect except it drops away too much at the heel.

I do not have an OEM XL frame to compare. I went from small 365 frame to a Grayguns XL frame. The Icarus and Grayguns are about same dimensionally. The Icarus adds heft (aluminum vs. polymer) and has a better defined rail. The grip texture helps prevent small gun squirm. The rail is so well defined I use it as a rest for my weak hand thumb.

A negative regarding Icarus is wear; there area few small wear spots on grip texture.

[Up1911Fan]

Just waiting for my slide and RMRcc to come back from L&M. Love the Boresight grip module.
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[ssb]

Dumb question, as I look to spend entirely too much money with Boresight: a manual safety module will work with a non-safety FCU, correct? I’ve thought about experimenting with a safety so I’d like to future proof myself here if possible.

[Up1911Fan]

Dumb question, as I look to spend entirely too much money with Boresight: a manual safety module will work with a non-safety FCU, correct? I’ve thought about experimenting with a safety so I’d like to future proof myself here if possible.

Not sure, but I believe the only difference is the cut out for the safety lever, so it should be reverse compatible.

[t1tan]

https://i.imgur.com/zU9I3lc.jpg

Started as a P365 when I picked it up last year, added the XL frame, flat trigger and PMM barrel and comp before I ever shot it. They released the slide last week and tagged me when it went live so I ordered one asap. Showed up on Sunday, adjustable wrench opened a bit while installing my comp so I've got a small scratch on my barrel that pisses me the fuck off it's there, but I finally have the gun I set out to build.

Just need one of those Boresight grip modules.

[D-der]

This thread and warmer weather got me to dry fire and run
a few rounds through my XL last weekend, started carrying
it again this week, so far, 3400 rd's with zero malfunctions
and 1200+ on the 407K with same result's.
I'd read about the PMM comp a couple of weeks ago and
got to thinking, a 365 slide with the comp direct milled with
real BUIS on my XL lower should carry pretty well in my JM 2.5
and according to PMM's video's, shoot noticeably flatter.
I really look forward to your thought's on the set up.
I'm still really curious about Bore Sight's module.
I'm running a double layer of rubber Talon Grip's,
I tried their Pro's last year and they started coming apart
before the summer was out and as noted earlier in the thread
it was difficult to make small grip correction's on presentation.
I'm wondering if the Bore Sight module has the same grip issue
and I would assume the Razorback mod changes where the dot
will be on presentation, up, down ? from orig Sig, I had the bright
idea of kind of duplicating BS's Razor back's profile with masking tape
to get a feel... that didn't last long.

[tlong17]

This thread and warmer weather got me to dry fire and run
a few rounds through my XL last weekend, started carrying
it again this week, so far, 3400 rd's with zero malfunctions
and 1200+ on the 407K with same result's.
I'd read about the PMM comp a couple of weeks ago and
got to thinking, a 365 slide with the comp direct milled with
real BUIS on my XL lower should carry pretty well in my JM 2.5
and according to PMM's video's, shoot noticeably flatter.
I really look forward to your thought's on the set up.
I'm still really curious about Bore Sight's module.
I'm running a double layer of rubber Talon Grip's,
I tried their Pro's last year and they started coming apart
before the summer was out and as noted earlier in the thread
it was difficult to make small grip correction's on presentation.
I'm wondering if the Bore Sight module has the same grip issue
and I would assume the Razorback mod changes where the dot
will be on presentation, up, down ? from orig Sig, I had the bright
idea of kind of duplicating BS's Razor back's profile with masking tape
to get a feel... that didn't last long.

If you buy one and don’t like it I will buy it from you at an appropriate discount :)

[D-der]

If you buy one and don’t like it I will buy it from you at an appropriate discount :)

Hey...
Never know,you could wind up with that opportunity!
That's half a case of ammo nowadays!

[CarlK]

Hey...
Never know,you could wind up with that opportunity!
That's half a case of ammo nowadays!

Haha- I just sold some ammo to fund a second Razorback.

[Kanye Wyoming]

Carry Trainer YouTube video specifically on the Boresight razorback module.


https://youtu.be/2Fb0vFIqEYA

[98z28]

For you all wanting to run the shorter 365 slide on the longer XL grip module, what exactly is the benefit you're after? I've shot both the 365 and XL upper on both lowers, and prefer the shooting dynamics of the longer slide quite a bit. Before shooting it, I thought the XL would be the worst of all worlds on such a concealable gun, but the optics cut made me try it. Now, I'd need a good reason to go back to the shorter slide on either grip module. You all are no dummies, so I must be missing something. Short of adding a comp and still fitting 365 XL holsters, what is it you prefer about the shorter 365 slide and barrel compared to the longer XL variant? If it's concealment, I get it. I've hated to give up ankle and pocket carry, but the XL conceals well enough for my purposes (formal and business casual attire) in a Spencer's Flex (http://keepersconcealment.com/products/#1473634238676-7866a5ff-1979)and a belly band that I am unwilling to give up the better shooting characteristics of the XL slide. What am I missing by ignoring the shorter slide?

[D-der]

For you all wanting to run the shorter 365 slide on the longer XL grip module, what exactly is the benefit you're after? I've shot both the 365 and XL upper on both lowers, and prefer the shooting dynamics of the longer slide quite a bit. Before shooting it, I thought the XL would be the worst of all worlds on such a concealable gun, but the optics cut made me try it. Now, I'd need a good reason to go back to the shorter slide on either grip module. You all are no dummies, so I must be missing something. Short of adding a comp and still fitting 365 XL holsters, what is it you prefer about the shorter 365 slide and barrel compared to the longer XL variant? If it's concealment, I get it. I've hated to give up ankle and pocket carry, but the XL conceals well enough for my purposes (formal and business casual attire) in a Spencer's Flex (http://keepersconcealment.com/products/#1473634238676-7866a5ff-1979)and a belly band that I am unwilling to give up the better shooting characteristics of the XL slide. What am I missing by ignoring the shorter slide?

I'd have the same question, I have both, a standard 365 and an XL.
I picked up the 365 after the bug's were shaken out and then the XL
when they were released, then a RDS when available, first a Shield,
now a 407K.
I've mixed and matched upper's and lower's several ways,
I'd agree, my preference is the long slide, I can see the 365
module offers the option of better concealment with the 10rd
mag, but I carry AIWB and prefer the longer holster anyway.
But to each their own!
A 365 slide with a comp does have my attention, curious to
hear feed back on function / reliability.
The 365 sees little use these days but I've picked up an Enigma
for it for the rare occasions I can't get away with a JMCK

[CarlK]

For me - and I have tried both because I have both a P365 and a P365XL - I prefer the longer grip of the XL as it gives me a full, very solid master grip. The shorter slide seems to present out of the holster just a bit quicker too. It also conceals in a fanny pack easier (I prefer the smaller fanny packs as they are more discrete). In Washington state we don’t have a mag capacity limit so having the 12 round XL mag is great. If we get a 10 round mag capacity limit in the future, I might lean back to the shorter grip module.

[ssb]

I really hope feelings don’t lie here because this Razorback grip feels like it fixes almost every gripe I have about the 365 grip.

[tlong17]

With red dot, long slide doesn’t really have any advantage to me other than maybe a better RSA design? The ability to pop the XL module off and the normal one back on when I need even more concealment is ideal. The long slide on the normal short module feels unbalanced.

[Rex G]

I like the Razorback’s hand-filling part, for my skinny-but-deep palms, and that it squares-up the lower rear of the grip. My hands do not get along well with many rounded grips, especially if on little guns. This provides hope that a 365-series pistol can point better for me. (As-is, they point so low, as to be a deal-breaker.)

It will be a tall order, for a Razor-backed 365XL to gain a place, among my long-established carry guns, but my April budget might well be able to tolerate the experiment.

[GJM]

I like the Razorback’s hand-filling part, for my skinny-but-deep palms, and that it squares-up the lower rear of the grip. My hands do not get along well with many rounded grips, especially if on little guns. This provides hope that a 365-series pistol can point better for me. (As-is, they point so low, as to be a deal-breaker.)

It will be a tall order, for a Razor-backed 365XL to gain a place, among my long-established carry guns, but my April budget might well be able to tolerate the experiment.

Apparently too many others posting in or reading this thread had the same idea, because I see they are now showing as “out of stock.”

[Rex G]

Apparently too many others posting in or reading this thread had the same idea, because I see they are now showing as “out of stock.”

Well, such things happen. Not to worry, though; I can be patient, especially when I don’t yet have the base pistol, and, already have some excellent compact weapons.

Edited to add: At least some of the grip modules appear to be available.

[CarlK]

I had a chance to run 300 rounds through it today and totally dig the Razorback grip. I no longer will use Talon Grips as the Razorback now provides enough purchase for a phenomenal grip.

[Crusader8207]

I had a chance to run 300 rounds through it today and totally dig the Razorback grip. I no longer will use Talon Grips as the Razorback now provides enough purchase for a phenomenal grip.

Razorback on order.... lol

[Pepper]

Razorback on order.... lol


Me too. Sent a new module down to Ben on Friday.

[Up1911Fan]

I have an XL Razorback and ordered a standard Razorback module for my second 365.

[D-der]

I'm in

[CarlK]

Uh oh...at what point do we form a support group?

[GJM]

Just ordered one.

[D-der]

Last fall through winter, I mostly shot my P10C and M&P compact, carried the P10 every day.
This thread, helped with spring weather, got my attention
back on the 365 platform, I shot my XL last weekend, carried
It all week with dry fire in between and ran a couple of mags
of 124gr Lawman this afternoon, 5 - 25yds.
They're a pretty neat little gun, I've got a double layer of talon tape with a third strip on the outer front grip, works pretty
good as long as your hands are dry, that's a lot of adhesive layers!
Anxious to try the Razorback.

[tlong17]

Razorback all of the things.

[Crusader8207]

My Razorback is due to be delivered on Monday.... can't wait.

[Crusader8207]

received my Razorback. Feels good in the hand. Only problem is I ordered a non manual safety module, and they sent a MS module. Communication with Ben has been great. They will send a replacement and I will send back the one I received.

[GJM]

My reaction when I opened the package, was “wow this thing costs a lot.” However when I shot it, I get the value.

[D-der]

My reaction when I opened the package, was “wow this thing costs a lot.” However when I shot it, I get the value.

Good to hear...
I think!
Still waiting.

[Crusader8207]

Finally got to the range with my Boresight Razorback on my P365. Without a doubt, worth the money.....

[GJM]

Finally got to the range with my Boresight Razorback on my P365. Without a doubt, worth the money.....

I like 43X/48, Shield Plus and 365/Xl but the Razorback makes the 365 my favorite.

[CLaw]

Does anyone have a 43x/48 with boresight work/razorback?

I’ve always been tempted to send something to boresight. But, when I get everything in the cart and I’m about to submit, I look at the price...

I think he’s a standup guy and well respected. I’m sure the quality of the work is worth the money. But, it’s hard to spend that type of money on a Glock for me...


I like 43X/48, Shield Plus and 365/Xl but the Razorback makes the 365 my favorite.

[Crusader8207]

I like 43X/48, Shield Plus and 365/Xl but the Razorback makes the 365 my favorite.

365 Razorback is my EDC now. I am taking a Jedlinski class this fall. I may run that gun in the class.

[D-der]

My Razorback showed up end of the week,
I'd agree, open the package and sob, pricey
piece of plastic but... after running 50rd's,
it certainly delivers everything I'd hoped for.
While the texture isn't as aggressive as I'd
thought it would be, the gun doesn't move
at all, index is on the money, the RB brings
my XL to where it doesn't give up much to
a 4" compact for daily carry.

[Rex G]

I find myself wanting to inquire if I can get the grip of an S&W Model 3913 Razor-backed. That would be something.

[richiecotite]

Finally got to shoot my homebrew p365x after I squibbed last weekend on the first round (my Dillon 550 powder adjustment jonk needed to be tightened to add more pressure to the spring loaded mechanism).

Grayguns xl grip module, upper is an March 2018 gun I traded a g17 for a few weeks ago. Load is 4.5 gr WSF under a 124 v-crown.

I normally shoot my 17 or chopped 17 about 89-1x at 25 yds and the most leftward shot was a called flyer

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210419/b9a01193e7d526d90768b4b878c27cbe.jpg


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[Up1911Fan]

Razorback all of the P365's.
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[GJM]

Razorback all of the P365's.
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Wow, somebody is doing well!

[tlong17]

Razorback all of the P365's.
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This man gets it ;)

[Up1911Fan]

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[Crusader8207]

Added a Grayguns Comp. Will run it this weekend.

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[RancidSumo]

Added a Grayguns Comp. Will run it this weekend.

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Does it fit in a 365xl holster with the comp? Considering putting together something very similar to this but with the short grip and hoping I can just get an xl holster from JMCK.

[Crusader8207]

Does it fit in a 365xl holster with the comp? Considering putting together something very similar to this but with the short grip and hoping I can just get an xl holster from JMCK.

It fit the Raven Concealment Perun just fine. I did have to modify the JM Custom Kydex AIWB holster I wear all the time.

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[rca90gsx]

How did the comp work out?



Added a Grayguns Comp. Will run it this weekend.

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[Crusader8207]

How did the comp work out?

I liked it a lot. I had a bunch of old defensive stuff that I had cycled through other guns as well as 50 rounds of HST 147. Up to this point, the only ammo I had run through the gun was Blazer Brass 115 ball ammo of which I found made the gun snappy. The 147 is a totally different animal and was very pleasant to shoot, not snappy at all. With the comp, the gun digested pretty much everything I put through it ranging from 124 Gold Dots to 135 Critical Duty and some Hornady TAP 124. I did have issues with some Corbon 115 hollow point ammo, in which I experienced three FTE. I put over 200 rounds of defensive ammo through the gun (expensive day LOL). Overall it ran like a champ. One issue with the comp, is it has a set screw to help keep it from rotating along with the red lock tite (both supplied by GrayGuns). The directions advise to not use any lock tite on the set screw to be able to remove it. Thankfully I was paying attention because I noticed the set screw had walked out about 1/2 way after about 100 rounds. I may contact GrayGuns to get a couple more to have on hand in the event it were to fall out. I also ran the Holosun 507k with all three of the reticles (dot/circle dot/circle). Interestingly, I was fastest acquiring the circle only. It was pretty intuitive to place the circle in the area that I intended to shoot and had great accuracy. One thing I did have to do is focus more on the off set at closer distances (something more forgiving with the dot only).

[CarlK]

Updated pics from a day trip to Deception Pass State Park to escape the 110 degree Seattle-metro heat today. I’m also testing out the MagGuts P365XL +2 floor plate, spring, and follower that gives me 14 rounds in the mag. So far so good. The Emerson CQC-7A was also along for the ride and wanted to be part of the fun.

[Crusader8207]

went to the range today and ran the P365x with Grayguns comp vs the P320 X Compact with Wilson grip. I ran a mix of 115 ball ammo and 147gr HSTs through both. At the end of the day, I really loved how soft shooting the 365X with the comp was in comparison to the X Compact. The only thing I didn't like about the 365 is it got real hot fast. I ran a bunch of failure drills and 5X5 drills with both guns and shot the 365X better. YMMV. Really love the setup.

[Biggy]

The OLIGHT BaldrVN Mini weapon light was (modified by Vinh Nguyen)
He replaced the XPL 6500K LED with a dedomed XPG2 in PDT (premium dedome tint - he handpicks them with the less green and yellow in it - when dedomed, many led's tint turn more greenish). You can also pick an XPL iLED in a 5000K or 4000K and also a diffused lens if you want but I wanted the most throw with is the dedomed XPG2 PDT.
The candela goes from the stock 4225cd to 9Kcd. For reference, the TLR7/8 is rated at 5Kcd.
I gotta say. Its pretty nice for such a tiny weaponlight. An Armorycraft extended (.010") mag release and this little blaster is finished.

https://i.imgur.com/vMO50QOh.jpg

[RJ]

Looks like GJM wins the bet with Doc_Glock. I picked up a P365x today.

Took it home, did a basic clean and field strip to check it out. All ok. Dang these small RSAs are stiff.

Brought it to the range, shot 89 rounds. Zero problems. Included 12 rounds of Federal HST 147 and 10 Speer Gold Dot 124+p (my carry ammo.) The rest was American Eagle 124 or BB 124 FMJ. I used B-8s and a USPSA A-zone I print up at home for targets. I loaded 12 rounds a couple of times to verify the mags, having my Uplula along made loading the 12th round drama free.

I have to say, this is amazingly soft shooting for a microcompact. The XL grip fits my size M hands perfectly, the slide seems to cycle pretty flat. I liked the flat trigger on the P365XL I had previously, and this one is the same. I ran a B-8 out to 10 yards and did a 90-2X with 10 rounds, in about 15-20 seconds, so not really in a hurry. Groups were low and right a bit, mostly because of my tendency to under grip my support hand. I really missed having an optic; I did a group at 25 yards and put 6/10 on paper, but it was not my best effort. The sights were fine but I don't tend to see them well these days.

Cleaned it at home, noticed some dings in the barrel hood from the shooting or I dunno perhaps the assembly process (pistol had a born on date of 10-26-21) but I don't worry too much about that kind of thing. It's meant to be shot. The mags are a nice change from Glocks; I forgot how easy they come apart; just like HK mags. I did my usual check for swarf or flashing on the followers, or gunk in the mag tube, or bent springs, or whatever; but they were pretty clean. Wiped them out and reassembled.

I'm very impressed. I have history with Sig; my wife had a P365 for a while and I owned a P365XL last year before I went back to a G48 because:reasons. Definitely going to get a 507k and put it on soon; I miss having my dot.

I cobbled together a makeshift AIWB holster from a old lefty JM CK IWB 15 degree cant P365XL shell I had laying around, a PTD loop and a spare wing. Carry is great, I'm amazed it's so comfortable and thin, even with the make-shift holster. The whole rig itself, with 13 rounds of Speer GD 124+p, weighs 28 oz. My G19 rig is 36 oz. The Sig is 2.2 oz per round, putting it at the top of my personal oz/round metric out of the box.

Appreciate it's not quite proven itself yet, and I'm still in the honeymoon phase, but if it continues to perform consistently it'll be a keeper.

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[davisj]

Picked mine up today after Sig replaced the barrel and recoil spring, looked like it had been dropped on the barrel crown.
Almost a two week turn around but I wasn’t in a hurry. The delay allowed my JMCK and mag carrier to arrive ahead of the gun. Installed a 507K and shot roughly 100 rounds. No drama other than my cartridge sighting laser must have been off, I “zeroed” before I left the house only to have a nice group 8” right and 5” low once I was able to put some rounds through it. I’ll shoot it more next week. Can’t say I like it more, or less, than my 43X with a 507K. Time will tell.

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[parishioner]

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First outing with the p365 today. Haven’t shot in over a year. While I can still get a good purchase on the standard grip with my M hands, I ordered the xl grip frame. It still conceals remarkably well with the larger frame so it’ll stay in this configuration for the obvious benefits. First time dealing with a sig also and have to say the ease at which you can change frames is pretty slick.

Fired 200rds. 100 Winchester 124gr NATO, 50 PMC Bronze 124gr, and 50 Federal HST 147gr. On my first two magazines I had two in total failures to go fully into battery with the 124 NATO. Both times the slide stopped with about a half inch to go but no problems after that. I’ll chalk it up to a break in period. I too also noticed dings on the barrel hood like the poster above while cleaning.

This is my 3rd attempt ever at a 25yd B8 and my best, an 88 with Fed 147 HST. First time was my last outing over a year ago with a 43x. It was abysmal, only landing 4 or 5 on the paper. It was the end of my session and I left humbled thinking of all the excellent scores in the 25yd freestyle revisited thread. My first attempt today I only landed 7/10 on the paper, laughed when I saw it and thought here we go again. I then re-focused and shot the above. The people who regularly score in the high 90s have my respect.

So far I’m enjoying this more than the 43x although the Glock had a certain familiarity that was nice. My only concern is some of the rusting issues I’ve seen posted by others with me living in south Louisiana and high humidity. Time will tell.

[Chuck Whitlock]

Looks like GJM wins the bet with Doc_Glock. I picked up a P365x today.

Took it home, did a basic clean and field strip to check it out. All ok. Dang these small RSAs are stiff.

It's almost like physics is a thing, or something. :cool:

Congrats, Rich. I hope it keeps working out for you.

[RJ]

It's almost like physics is a thing, or something. :cool:

Congrats, Rich. I hope it keeps working out for you.

Thanks Chuck! Hope all are well at home there in Corpus. We are going great, enjoying the retired life here in sleepy Venice FL.

Yah, the RSA is stiff, I should remember from my wife's P365.

I'm pretty hopeful that this is "the one" as far as carry goes (I'll be sure not to drop it, of course :cool:) since I've been through quite a few of the most recent skinny 9mms over the last 18 months. I've decided to try the 407K V2 on the P365x this go round. It has a 6 MOA dot and manual brightness, only. I have tended to set the 507c's in manual most of the time anyway; and I think a single larger dot for carry has pluses over the 32 MOA Circle 'O Death of the bigger Holosuns. And the dot plus circle is too busy, I've found. Anyway, will be looking for a Black Friday deal on one soon. We shall see. After getting the sight, I need to get a holster ordered with JM CK, and donate a kidney or two for a few more mags.

As to the gun, I've done some searching on this odd divot on the barrel hood, and it seems to have been added by Sig after the "barrel peening" shenanigans in early spring 2018. Apparently some did, and some did not, generate a mark there upon live fire, so according to what I read, Sig added this relief cut to the hood in all subsequent production. It does seem to shoot well, so I don't have any real concerns, now that I've figured out what it is.

[WobblyPossum]

I decided to order one of these after finding them for a good price at KY Gun Co. I’m going to give the agency Sig P320s the old college try and the P365 family of weapons are on the approved personally owned weapon list. I’m looking forward to trying something new after primarily being a Glock shooter for the last 7 years or so. I do wish we were allowed to use the manual safety variants but we can’t have everything, I guess. I won’t be selling all of my Glocks or anything but we’ll see how things go with this little gun when I get it.

[Dismas316]

My reaction when I opened the package, was “wow this thing costs a lot.” However when I shot it, I get the value.


Just received mine today and that’s my same reaction. I actually thought it would be thicker but it looks like they just shaved up at the tang. I do like the feel but haven’t shot it yet and unfortunate can’t get out for probably a week. I sure hope I experience the value when shooting it as others have.

[RJ]

I'm pretty hopeful that this is "the one" as far as carry goes (I'll be sure not to drop it, of course :cool:) since I've been through quite a few of the most recent skinny 9mms over the last 18 months. I've decided to try the 407K V2 on the P365x this go round. It has a 6 MOA dot and manual brightness, only. I have tended to set the 507c's in manual most of the time anyway; and I think a single larger dot for carry has pluses over the 32 MOA Circle 'O Death of the bigger Holosuns. And the dot plus circle is too busy, I've found. Anyway, will be looking for a Black Friday deal on one soon. We shall see. After getting the sight, I need to get a holster ordered with JM CK, and donate a kidney or two for a few more mags.


So far so good since purchase of this P365x last fall. It's become my EDC, save for occasions to walk out to get the mail or wash the truck, for which I use my LCR.

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Round count is up to 553, mostly American Eagle 124 or Blazer Brass 124 FMJ. Perhaps 10% of that a mix of carry Federal HST 147, Speer Gold Dot 124+p and 115. No real issues, less a few fail for the slide to close all the way with a few of the four new US-made range mags. That one issue hasn't surfaced since. All of the range mags now have several cycles through.

Only mod has been purchase of the Wilson Combat grip module and Tungsten weight kit. Overall it's a plus, the texture is very aggressive front and back, which seems to help.

I'm trying out one of the Mastermind Tactics Low Profile fabric mag pouches for a reload. With the additional mag that is 25 rounds to solve the problem.

With AIWB carry, fit in the JM Custom Kydex AIWB 2.5 WC holster is good, nice and tight. I'm running it with one DCC clip at the moment, and a Mastermind Tactics Appendix Carry Pillow on a Mastermind Tactics Specialist belt.

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I've also been using it during Dry Practice to see how it works from concealment. One metric I use are the Gabe White performance standards. I have a fair bit of data on the times on these tests with my G34 USPSA rig, since it is the most often setup I dry practice with. Compared to that, and with the -0.25s concealment bonus, I am still not quite down to those numbers, being about 0.1-0.2s above my OWB times.

So far I'd say this purchase is working out pretty well. Enough so that this is the first platform I've ever gotten to where I am considering purchasing another P365 as a backup/training/carry gun.

[Trukinjp13]

I am ready to pickup another small carry 9. I’ve had a multitude of Glocks. They all worked and I never had a failure. But the 365 is tempting. I am contemplating buying a 365 somewhat base model and installing the XL style Wilson grip module. I am not looking for a optics ready model so I would prefer spending the extra money on gear.

Has anyone ran the Wilson 12rnd with a base 365? And If so how did you like it? I do not like the factory grip on the 365 at all.


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[RJ]

Has anyone ran the Wilson 12rnd with a base 365? And If so how did you like it? I do not like the factory grip on the 365 at all.



Referring to a Wilson Combat "XL" (12 round) grip module, as opposed to a regular Sig OEM 12 round grip module?

If so, I like mine a lot. My review was posted here in the WC grip thread. Cliffs are the WC grip is 0.3 oz heavier (1.8 oz heavier with the Tungsten weight kit), has a built-in mag well (ish), has really really aggressive texture on the front and backstrap, and feels slightly "rounder" than OEM. The only mod I've made to it is to shorten the beavertail about 1mm with a Dremel. It stuck a bit far out for me.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?51208-Wilson-Combat-Launches-P365-Grip-Modules&p=1312148&viewfull=1#post1312148

[Trukinjp13]

Referring to a Wilson Combat "XL" (12 round) grip module, as opposed to a regular Sig OEM 12 round grip module?

If so, I like mine a lot. My review was posted here in the WC grip thread. Cliffs are the WC grip is 0.3 oz heavier (1.8 oz heavier with the Tungsten weight kit), has a built-in mag well (ish), has really really aggressive texture on the front and backstrap, and feels slightly "rounder" than OEM. The only mod I've made to it is to shorten the beavertail about 1mm with a Dremel. It stuck a bit far out for me.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?51208-Wilson-Combat-Launches-P365-Grip-Modules&p=1312148&viewfull=1#post1312148

Yes, the Wilson. I’m just hesitant because I had no problems with my Glocks and have a few coupons for em sitting here.

But the Wilson module, extra rounds and safety option are very appealing.


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[octagon]

I am ready to pickup another small carry 9. I’ve had a multitude of Glocks. They all worked and I never had a failure. But the 365 is tempting. I am contemplating buying a 365 somewhat base model and installing the XL style Wilson grip module. I am not looking for a optics ready model so I would prefer spending the extra money on gear.

Has anyone ran the Wilson 12rnd with a base 365? And If so how did you like it? I do not like the factory grip on the 365 at all.


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What is the purpose of the new gun or what role is it to work in?

I like my 365 and XL with WC grip module but I switched from Glocks to 365 because it works better for me and EDC with 10+ rounds better than Glock 43, 43X or 48 none of which I have sold yet.

[Trukinjp13]

What is the purpose of the new gun or what role is it to work in?

I like my 365 and XL with WC grip module but I switched from Glocks to 365 because it works better for me and EDC with 10+ rounds better than Glock 43, 43X or 48 none of which I have sold yet.

Basically a slim pistol to carry in summer months. It will sub in for my p229/509. I wish I could get the xl length slide minus the optics cut. So that’s why I’m looking at going 365 with Wilson module to get that length and capacity.

I will say this. I’m not bound to the cheaper option. If y’all think the 365xl is that much better if a shooter than that seems like the more logical choice.


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[octagon]

Any of the 365 variants should be a good slim concealed carry for summertime. The XL is softer/nicer shooting and if used with irons it offers longer sight radius and a little more velocity. It carries almost as easy especially if you planned on doing a X length grip module anyways. The only issue with the XL sight plate is that the rear sight is attached but it is snag free and the sights are pretty decent.

If it adds anything to aid in your decision I will likely pick up a X model as my next purchase to go with the regular and XL that I already have. It's not that I don't already have the ability to create any variant just that an X would allow for optic mount from the factory and would be XL length with a carry comp both/either of which are interesting to me. Watching JCN Spectre comp research and comparison closely.

If you are comparing it to slimline Glocks the 365,X and XL have better sights, triggers and are smaller right out of the box. The WC grip module adds plenty and is cheaper and reversible where grip stippling not so much and the slimlines are slick to me. The full length RSA of the XL is more forgiving than the all short 43,43X and 48 RSA.

[D-der]

Basically a slim pistol to carry in summer months. It will sub in for my p229/509. I wish I could get the xl length slide minus the optics cut. So that’s why I’m looking at going 365 with Wilson module to get that length and capacity.

I will say this. I’m not bound to the cheaper option. If y’all think the 365xl is that much better if a shooter than that seems like the more logical choice.


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I own 2 XL' s and a std 365, just my opinion...
If you never plan on pocket carrying, and can live with the rear sight (black it out if you don't like ns 's)you can change the front, why get a std 365?
If you might want a RDS an X or longer slide XL are good options with a straight trigger if it matters to you, you could choose to run a 12rd or 10rd module on any of the uppers, modules are inexpensive, especially if you look for available used.
Personally, I've settled on an XL with a 407 / 507K in a weighted WC 12 rd module AIWB and keep the std 363 (with blacked serrated rear / FO frt Dawson sights) for rare pocket or enigma carry.
There's a lot of options with the platform, you can pick your prefered option and add options if / as you wish.

[Trukinjp13]

I own 2 XL' s and a std 365, just my opinion...
If you never plan on pocket carrying, and can live with the rear sight (black it out if you don't like ns 's)you can change the front, why get a std 365?
If you might want a RDS an X or longer slide XL are good options with a straight trigger if it matters to you, you could choose to run a 12rd or 10rd module on any of the uppers, modules are inexpensive, especially if you look for available used.
Personally, I've settled on an XL with a 407 / 507K in a weighted WC 12 rd module AIWB and keep the std 363 (with blacked serrated rear / FO frt Dawson sights) for rare pocket or enigma carry.
There's a lot of options with the platform, you can pick your prefered option and add options if / as you wish.

I guess my main rub with the xl is the rear sight plate. I would vastly prefer the spectre comp integrated rear sight and separate optic. I do not think I’ll put a optic on this one. So a irons only XL would be ideal for me.


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[D-der]

I guess my main rub with the xl is the rear sight plate. I would vastly prefer the spectre comp integrated rear sight and separate optic. I do not think I’ll put a optic on this one. So a irons only XL would be ideal for me.


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I hear ya, before I mounted my first XL rds (a Shield ), I sharpied my rear XL sight and ran a Night Fision front...
Worked OK for me.