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Trooper224
02-18-2021, 07:33 PM
Some things are still in stock at the LGS.
https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/171424262.e8NIce02.jpg

revchuck38
02-18-2021, 07:37 PM
I would love to have an M1 Thompson...or at least be able to afford one.

Suvorov
02-18-2021, 08:06 PM
Some things are still in stock at the LGS.
https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/171424262.e8NIce02.jpg

Is that the pistol or are things so wonderful in Kansas that the local gun stores stock Class 3 and SBRs?

olstyn
02-18-2021, 08:10 PM
Some things are still in stock at the LGS.

The hat makes the look. :)

Trooper224
02-18-2021, 08:21 PM
Is that the pistol or are things so wonderful in Kansas that the local gun stores stock Class 3 and SBRs?

There's a stock on there. This is a modern semi-auto version. It's owned by one of the young guys at the LGS and he wanted to show it off. At least he filled out the paperwork for the appropriate barrel, instead of one of those ridiculous rifle length jobs. That being said, Kansas is awesome in many ways, but we like to promote the "fly over country" image. It keeps out the undesirables.

Having spent time with the genuine article years ago, it brought back fond memories.

Trooper224
02-18-2021, 08:22 PM
The hat makes the look. :)

The owner handed it to me then said "oh man, I've got to have a picture of that!"

Suvorov
02-18-2021, 08:22 PM
There's a stock on there. This is a modern semi-auto version. It's owned by one of the young guys at the LGS and he wanted to show it off. At least he filled out the paperwork for the appropriate barrel, instead of one of those ridiculous rifle length jobs. That being said, Kansas is awesome in many ways, but we like to promote the "fly over country" image. It keeps out the undesirables.

Having spent time with the genuine article years ago, it brought back fond memories.

Nice. I’ve always liked Eastern Kansas and have a Brother in Law there.......

Trooper224
02-18-2021, 08:30 PM
Nice. I’ve always liked Eastern Kansas and have a Brother in Law there.......

I spent most of my formative years in KC, (I don't like to admit I'm a California native). Back then KC was a great place to grow up. I spent the first 13 years of my LE career in the southwestern part of the state, before transferring back to the Wichita area, where I spent the last half on the midnight shift as part of the circus that is the Kansas Turnpike. Eastern and western Kansas are two entirely different worlds.

DDTSGM
02-18-2021, 10:45 PM
Eastern and western Kansas are two entirely different worlds.

Quoted for truth.

JAD
02-18-2021, 11:38 PM
). Back then KC was a great place to grow up..

OPKS is still pretty awesome.

Suvorov
02-19-2021, 12:32 AM
I spent most of my formative years in KC, (I don't like to admit I'm a California native). Back then KC was a great place to grow up. I spent the first 13 years of my LE career in the southwestern part of the state, before transferring back to the Wichita area, where I spent the last half on the midnight shift as part of the circus that is the Kansas Turnpike. Eastern and western Kansas are two entirely different worlds.

Dude - I’m living in the Bay Area of California. I’ll see your circus and raise you a whole carnival plus a freak show!

Trooper224
02-19-2021, 12:38 AM
Dude - I’m living in the Bay Area of California. I’ll se your circus and raise you a whole carnival plus a freak show!

I have a sister in law in the bay area. Brother, that's no circus, that's a bowl of fruits and nuts.

5pins
02-19-2021, 07:46 AM
Pretty cool but can you find ammo for it?:D

Trooper224
02-19-2021, 08:35 AM
Pretty cool but can you find ammo for it?:D

Sure. Some of us believe proper planning prevents poor performance.

revchuck38
02-19-2021, 09:30 AM
Pretty cool but can you find ammo for it?:D

I've got two .30 cal cans of .45 ACP. Doesn't everybody?

Bio
02-19-2021, 09:37 AM
OPKS is still pretty awesome.

KC area has great BBQ and Mexican food.

Lost River
02-19-2021, 10:04 AM
Idaho POST Academy still had 2 Tommy guns in the armory when I went through. Probably long gone considering that was a different century...

Such cool guns. Always figured if I had to be in WW2, that and a 1911 would be my American issued weapons of choice. :cool:

TGS
02-19-2021, 10:14 AM
Pretty cool but can you find ammo for it?:D

As someone that decided to recently get into 45, I can say that this was the best time to do it.

I stocked up on my other calibers pre-shitshow for cheap, and at a fraction of what 45 costed. Now, however, I'm trading those same cartridges at current market value on a 1:1 ratio.

In my mind, 45 has never been so cheap. I've got enough 223/5.56, 9mm and 38 to trade for 45 for some time to come.

Trooper224
02-19-2021, 10:17 AM
KC area has great BBQ and Mexican food.

I grew up on KC BBQ. Every time I go down south to visit our daughter, I nearly upchuck over that crap they call BBQ.

Trooper224
02-19-2021, 10:20 AM
Idaho POST Academy still had 2 Tommy guns in the armory when I went through. Probably long gone considering that was a different century...

Such cool guns. Always figured if I had to be in WW2, that and a 1911 would be my American issued weapons of choice. :cool:

When I went on the job we still had half a dozen M28s in the academy armory, complete with Cutts compensators, drum mags, etc. When I was on SWAT those may have made several trips to the range, but I can niether confirm nor deny.

hufnagel
02-19-2021, 10:29 AM
I spent most of my formative years in KC, (I don't like to admit I'm a California native). Back then KC was a great place to grow up. I spent the first 13 years of my LE career in the southwestern part of the state, before transferring back to the Wichita area, where I spent the last half on the midnight shift as part of the circus that is the Kansas Turnpike. Eastern and western Kansas are two entirely different worlds.

What's 200+ acres in the middle of nowhere, KS, go for these days?

Trooper224
02-19-2021, 10:38 AM
What's 200+ acres in the middle of nowhere, KS, go for these days?

Sorry, none available. :)

Lost River
02-19-2021, 10:49 AM
I spent several nights during the POST academy de-capping, re-priming and stuffing cotton balls into the now primed .45 ACP cases for one of our instructors. The instructor figured out on range day one that I could shoot (I shot a possible 300 for 300 on the initial course of fire) and once he discovered I was a USPSA shooter and reloader, he tasked me with loading the .45 ACPs.

They were later used on the cadets for traffic stops, building searches, etc. If you screwed up, you got shot with a cotton ball from the instructors 45 ACP revolvers. Later they stopped using them, as they found out that little bits of metal can also sometimes exit from the primer flash hole. I don't recall anyone ever getting hurt, I think it was more of a "Hurt Feelings" issue of seeing the muzzle flash of a 625 S&W, knowing you screwed up on a traffic stop and now you are dead. :rolleyes: Eye protection was always worn anyways, so the worst anybody got was hit with a scorched cotton ball.:cool:

Bio
02-19-2021, 11:14 AM
I grew up on KC BBQ. Every time I go down south to visit our daughter, I nearly upchuck over that crap they call BBQ.

You know, I used to be a BBQ snob, but then I lived in places with a genuine lack of any sort of quality BBQ, and I became a lot more agnostic as to BBQ style, as long as the meat was smoked well.

Trooper224
02-19-2021, 11:53 AM
I spent several nights during the POST academy de-capping, re-priming and stuffing cotton balls into the now primed .45 ACP cases for one of our instructors. The instructor figured out on range day one that I could shoot (I shot a possible 300 for 300 on the initial course of fire) and once he discovered I was a USPSA shooter and reloader, he tasked me with loading the .45 ACPs.

They were later used on the cadets for traffic stops, building searches, etc. If you screwed up, you got shot with a cotton ball from the instructors 45 ACP revolvers. Later they stopped using them, as they found out that little bits of metal can also sometimes exit from the primer flash hole. I don't recall anyone ever getting hurt, I think it was more of a "Hurt Feelings" issue of seeing the muzzle flash of a 625 S&W, knowing you screwed up on a traffic stop and now you are dead. :rolleyes: Eye protection was always worn anyways, so the worst anybody got was hit with a scorched cotton ball.:cool:

Before we went to simmunitions we used something similar, with a primed red plastic case and a cotton ball inserted. Similar setup with shotguns as well. The accurate range was surprising and it was enough to sting. Of course, the guns were real, which is wisely considered a no-no now, but that's the way things were done in that different country called the past.

rcbusmc24
02-19-2021, 12:39 PM
As someone that decided to recently get into 45, I can say that this was the best time to do it.

I stocked up on my other calibers pre-shitshow for cheap, and at a fraction of what 45 costed. Now, however, I'm trading those same cartridges at current market value on a 1:1 ratio.

In my mind, 45 has never been so cheap. I've got enough 223/5.56, 9mm and 38 to trade for 45 for some time to come.

I traded a buddy 1 for 1 his new in case/ box old duty/ and training .45 ACP ammo for 7.62x39 steel case golden tigers.... His dept used to issue Glock 21's and gave out free practice ammo and extra duty rounds to those who wanted it.... They switched early last year to Gen 5 17's..... He just recently got a AK and had no ammo for it....and no other .45 pistols.... I couldn't make the trade fast enough and he actually told me he felt like he was winning too much when we did....I told him not to worry about it, just remember I have more AK rounds if his range master ever decides he wants to empty out the rest of the .45 from the dept's store room....

FrankinCA
02-19-2021, 06:24 PM
You look like a slugger for The Outfit. One of John Cerone’s crew

BobM
02-19-2021, 06:45 PM
When I went on the job we still had half a dozen M28s in the academy armory, complete with Cutts compensators, drum mags, etc. When I was on SWAT those may have made several trips to the range, but I can niether confirm nor deny.

My grandpa went to work at an Ohio prison when it opened about 1960. He said they had a Thompson or two, and two cases of auto-rim ammunition. He said he tried to explain that the ammo wouldn’t work in the guns and offered to take the ammunition away but they wouldn’t let him.

I also remember him saying that during the war everyone wanted to be the Thompson man, until they got to be one. He said something about a heavy vest of mags that went with it.

Borderland
02-19-2021, 08:18 PM
The Marine instructors at San Diego NTC demonstrated to my recruit company the full auto version. I guess they got bored training recruits and it was a diversion on range day. That's right, range day. We had one full day at the range with the Garand and that was the extent of our firearms training. That was an awesome demonstration but we never touched an M-14 or a 1911, although I was issued a 1911 at both of my duty stations following boot camp. I guess they just assumed I knew how to run it, which I did. I was in SD about 15 years ago and asked someone how I could get to Point Loma NTC and he said it was closed and most of it was gone. I did tour USS Midway while I was there which was worthwhile. SD has a nice climate.

Trooper224
02-19-2021, 08:32 PM
The Marine instructors at San Diego NTC demonstrated to my recruit company the full auto version. I guess they got bored training recruits and it was a diversion on range day. That's right, range day. We had one full day at the range with the Garand and that was the extent of our firearms training. That was an awesome demonstration but we never touched an M-14 or a 1911, although I was issued a 1911 at both of my duty stations following boot camp. I guess they just assumed I knew how to run it, which I did. I was in SD about 15 years ago and asked someone how I could get to Point Loma NTC and he said it was closed and most of it was gone. I did tour USS Midway while I was there which was worthwhile. SD has a nice climate.

When I enlisted (Navy) they gave me a choice of San Diego or Great Lakes. It was January and I thought, "Great Lakes in January......" Tough choice. It wound up being the coldest January on record in San Diego, but it wasn't Great Mistakes in January, or Kansas for that matter.

We didn't get to shoot M1s but we had to lug them around throughout boot camp.

Rick R
02-19-2021, 08:54 PM
https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/171424262.e8NIce02.jpg

You look like you’re ready for the cover of Larry Correia’s Hard Magic.
;)

Coyotesfan97
02-19-2021, 10:22 PM
I laughed so I found the cover shot for Hard Magic

67797

Joe in PNG
02-20-2021, 12:17 AM
Which is kind of funny, as Jake used a Lewis gun to start, then swapped to a custom bullpup BAR build by JMB.