View Full Version : Current best Gen 5 Glock MOS optic/plate/sights setup
LOKNLOD
01-29-2021, 06:27 PM
Well, I finally got my grubby mits on a G19.5 MOS without ransoming any vital organs. Seems like aftermarket plates are preferred over the OEM MOS plates, but what's the current "ideal" setup? Is there combination of plate/optic/irons that's the best way to get a bare minimum usable back up irons without looking over the top scale models of the Great Wall and Red October conning tower sticking up and blocking half my optic window?
Well, I finally got my grubby mits on a G19.5 MOS without ransoming any vital organs. Seems like aftermarket plates are preferred over the OEM MOS plates, but what's the current "ideal" setup? Is there combination of plate/optic/irons that's the best way to get a bare minimum usable back up irons without looking over the top scale models of the Great Wall and Red October conning tower sticking up and blocking half my optic window?
I like the combination of the 509T, C&H plate, and Ameriglo low suppressor sights with a .305 front.
JSGlock34
01-29-2021, 07:43 PM
I prefer the Trijicon family (RMR/SRO) with Ameriglo GL470 sights. My preference is the Forward Controls Design OPF-G (https://www.forwardcontrolsdesign.com/OPF-G-RMR_p_224.html) plate, but either the FCD or the CHPWS (which I've also used) are far far better than the OEM plates.
HCountyGuy
01-29-2021, 07:49 PM
I like the combination of the 509T, C&H plate, and Ameriglo low suppressor sights with a .305 front.
Does Ameriglo have a set with a .305 front?
Well, I finally got my grubby mits on a G19.5 MOS without ransoming any vital organs. Seems like aftermarket plates are preferred over the OEM MOS plates, but what's the current "ideal" setup? Is there combination of plate/optic/irons that's the best way to get a bare minimum usable back up irons without looking over the top scale models of the Great Wall and Red October conning tower sticking up and blocking half my optic window?
I've become fond of my 507C v2 on a C&H plate with Ameriglo GL-429 sights. That being said, I've been mulling over going to a 509T because I've been listening to praise of closed-emitter optics and it has very favorable reviews.
Does Ameriglo have a set with a .305 front?
I've become fond of my 507C v2 on a C&H plate with Ameriglo GL-429 sights. That being said, I've been mulling over going to a 509T because I've been listening to praise of closed-emitter optics and it has very favorable reviews.
Sorry, .315:
https://ameriglo.com/pages/glock-suppressors
GL-429's, Forward Controls plate, and RMR type 2 3.25 MOA dot was what I chose. This gives a lower 1/3 (to my eyes more like lower 1/4) co-witness, I find the irons usable, but unobtrusive. I went with the plain black set to help keep focus on the dot/sight picture.
Only thing I'd really change if I could, would be to have serrations on the rear sight to cut down any possible glare. The serrated sights I was able to find mostly had a more squared off shape to the rear sight, I wanted something angled/rounded for carry comfort and possibly to help reduce printing of the rear slide/sight corner. I have not shot the gun enough to notice any glare problems, but with regular irons, I prefer serrations. Probably not as much of an issue with the dot being 1st string...
rob_s
02-01-2021, 06:43 AM
I like the combination of the 509T (https://www.holosun.com/index/product/detail/id/117.html), C&H plate (https://chpws.com/product/holosun-509t-to-glock-mos-adapter-plate-2), and Ameriglo low suppressor sights (https://ameriglo.com/collections/products/glock-ameriglo-suppressor-optic-height-sets) with a .305 front.
Since I had to go google all this stuff, I thought I’d save the next guy the time.
I’m assuming that by “low” you mean “xl”? Is there a particular color combination you like? Particularly against the red of the Holosun?
In the process here with selecting options for my Glock 34 MOS.
I bought a Holosun 507c v2 yesterday, and ordered a C&H Defender V4 plate. I'm planning to buy steel black sights, most likely from Ameriglo such as the GL-429. I currently have the 507c mounted on the slide with the Glock OEM -02 adapter plate to check dry function. I'll buy the sights once the C&H plate gets here and I can measure the "Deck Height" of the optic on the plate I plan to use.
With the way it is now, the HS has a "deck height" of 0.310" above the slide, measuring per Ameriglo's diagram, which would indicate a plan black sight set of 2XL (deck height up to 0.319"). Am I missing something here that would make me pick the GL-429 sight set? I'm getting 0.310" by putting my calipers from the bottom of the dove tail to the top of the deck.
Well, I finally got my grubby mits on a G19.5 MOS without ransoming any vital organs. Seems like aftermarket plates are preferred over the OEM MOS plates, but what's the current "ideal" setup? Is there combination of plate/optic/irons that's the best way to get a bare minimum usable back up irons without looking over the top scale models of the Great Wall and Red October conning tower sticking up and blocking half my optic window?
Holosun 507k with J-point MOS plate and stock height front and rear irons.
RancidSumo
02-01-2021, 09:42 AM
I replaced my Ameriglos with 10-8 suppressor height on my 19.5 MOS. I haven’t used the CHPWS plate, but can certainly recommend the FCD plate shown here.
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BUIS color and tritium are personal preference, but low as possible is the goal, especially with smaller display optics.
Coyotesfan97
02-01-2021, 05:54 PM
I got my G19-5 MOS the week before from a blue label vendor in Prescott. I got my Holosun 507c on Saturday and I mounted it today. I’ll have to take it off when the Ameriglo GL-330 suppressor sights come in. I just used the included Glock trijicon plate.
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cornstalker
02-01-2021, 11:01 PM
My G5G19 MOS currently has Ameriglo GL429 sights, CHPWS plate (I believe it was the second revision). Holoson HE508T. I really like the setup, but after carrying it extensively, I am really tired of cleaning lint and belly hair out of the optic. I will likely be switching to the 509 with a CHPWS plate.
SoCalDep
02-02-2021, 04:10 AM
My optic Glocks are as follows:
G17 Unity ATOM slide with Aimpoint ACRO: The sights on this slide are taller than what I’d prefer but since they’re all (front and rear irons) in front of the optic it doesn’t bug me and dang I like the ACRO. I’m ordering another to go on the G34 I’ll talk about later...
G19Gen4 MOS: This one has a Forward Controls Design OPF-G plate mounting a Trijicon RMR 1.0 MOA (RM09) with America’s GL-429 sights (all black). I love the setup. This is my daily carry pistol and has been for almost a year, which is a REALLY long time for me. The LensPen soft brush is very much our friend on a daily basis to get rid of lint, debris, etc. from daily carry.
G17Gen5 MOS: This one has a CHPWS V4 Mil/LEO plate mounting a Trijicon SRO 1.0 MOA also with GL-429s. It’s my workhorse range gun and I have no complaints.
G45 MOS: This one has a CHPWS V4 plate mounting a Holosun 509T with GL-429s. It’s my current duty gun for working patrol assignments. For on-duty law enforcement I’m a big enclosed emitter fan, and the Holosun checks boxes for that in addition to a pretty large window, long battery life, and multi-reticle options - though I only use the dot.
G34Gen5 MOS: This one currently has an MOS plate (gross) mounting a Trijicon SRO 2.5 MOA with the same height sights as the 429s but with the orange outline tritium front sight. I ordered this iron set to test out some thoughts on “seeing” iron sights when very used to the dot. I like them, but I haven’t decided yet (need more range time and less report writing time) if they’re worth the cost over the 429s. I’ll be mounting another ACRO on this one soon for duty use and the SRO will probably go on a G34Gen4 I have at Agency Arms right now being set up for an AOS system and some other goodies.
Evil_Ed
02-02-2021, 07:46 AM
I can tell you that a G19MOS with the factory plate with a Holosun 508T on it; Ameriglo 429 sights are not tall enough to be usable with that combination. It needs the next size taller, which should give a lower 1/3rd co-witness. With the factory plate and the 508T, the tip of the front sight is baaaaaaaarely visible when trying to use irons through it (not to mention with the irons it shoots very low in the first place at the ranges I tried it out on; like 2+ inches low at 30 feet with 147gr ball...but that could be a function of the barely visible sight through the window, too)
YMMV; it might be just my example.
call_me_ski
02-02-2021, 08:48 AM
I am faced with setting up a 17 Gen 5 with a dot in the coming months.
I think I have settled on a 509T on a CHPWS plate. Probably will go with ameriglo sights. I am gonna try a safariland 6365rds holster to lug this thing around. Does anyone know if the secondary small hood that covers the RDS will close over the 509T? The Safariland website does a poor job of listing compatibility.
BUIS color and tritium are personal preference, but low as possible is the goal, especially with smaller display optics.
This ^^^^
I copied these heights from a guy in an MSP alumni group and they have worked out for me on my MOS Glocks:
RMR: Dawson .335 Rear .330 Front
SRO: Dawson .360 Rear .370 Front
You can use the .335/.330 on the SRO, but your irons will barely be there and since the SRO has more window, the .360 has worked well
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Doc_Glock
02-02-2021, 12:25 PM
I like the combination of the 509T, C&H plate, and Ameriglo low suppressor sights with a .305 front.
Thank you. The 509T is currently available which surprised me. Ordered all above for the G19MOS.
medmo
02-02-2021, 01:21 PM
This ^^^^
I copied these heights from a guy in an MSP alumni group and they have worked out for me on my MOS Glocks:
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I have the Dawson's on my G19.5 MOS also. SIG ROMEO1 for RDO with the SIG plate.
Highplains45
02-06-2021, 05:50 PM
I went this route reducing number of parts involved. Still looking at fixed sight options. 67192
Coyotesfan97
02-06-2021, 05:57 PM
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With the Ameriglos installed.
Motor51
02-06-2021, 07:18 PM
My current setup is with the C&H V4 without sealing plate. I also have Ameriglo 429s. It’s the best combo I’ve had so far.
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Motor51
02-06-2021, 07:23 PM
Here it is with the Holosun. It’s pictured with Ameriglo 506s I believe which were way too tall for me.
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sickeness
02-07-2021, 04:51 PM
I know many people are in strong favor of the ameriglo steel sights but I would highly suggest the 10-8 plain black sights as a much better mousetrap.
Although they cost about $40 more, you get serrated sight faces, nitride finish, they are made with much harder steel and most importantly to me, have no sharp edges to poke against your gut.
I have been using them on my EDC for about half a year and am quite pleased with them over the ameriglos.
karmapolice
02-07-2021, 07:01 PM
Ameriglo's are failing at a high rate on Gen 5 guns due to the finish and lack of a set screw. They will not stay in place, I switched to Henie's which have a double set screw and I'm happy with them.
Plate wise Forward Control Designs takes the win for me bar none and they have them for RMR, Deltapoint's, and ACRO's.
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cornstalker
02-10-2021, 08:36 AM
I know many people are in strong favor of the ameriglo steel sights but I would highly suggest the 10-8 plain black sights as a much better mousetrap.
Although they cost about $40 more, you get serrated sight faces, nitride finish, they are made with much harder steel and most importantly to me, have no sharp edges to poke against your gut.
I have been using them on my EDC for about half a year and am quite pleased with them over the ameriglos.
You aren’t kidding about the steel being harder. I very recently fitted a 10-8 standard low profile rear on an aftermarket G43x slide. It found it to be more difficult and time consuming to remove a few thousandths with a triangle needle file than any other sight I have fitted.
UNM1136
02-10-2021, 08:58 AM
Currently using a G17.4 MOS, 3.25 MOA RMR on the MOS plate with $uarez branded Trijicon suppressor sights.
I picked up a screaming deal over Christmas for a NP3'd $uarez $uperMatch $lide. RMR mounts directly on it. Looking a Dawson FO sights, trying to decide on height. There are a couple of suggestions floating around, (thanks HCM) but I may just end up breaking out the caliper and doing the math. Will put this together this summer when I get my uniform allowance and pick up an NP3'd match barrel and NP3'd connector. Then it will be my daily carry and work gun.
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noguns
02-10-2021, 06:08 PM
I prefer the 10 8 sights also. I like the serrations and the set screw. My ameriglos on my MOS don't stay put.
Ameriglo's are failing at a high rate on Gen 5 guns due to the finish and lack of a set screw. They will not stay in place, I switched to Henie's which have a double set screw and I'm happy with them.
I prefer the 10 8 sights also. I like the serrations and the set screw. My ameriglos on my MOS don't stay put.
I feel like I'm missing something obvious, so please bear with me, but: where does a set screw figure in a sight set for a Glock?
PS karmapolice props for the white stripe indexing mark on the top of the optic. I saw that suggested in a recently-viewed video on dots. I may end up doing that also.
Casual Friday
02-10-2021, 07:13 PM
Well at least now I know I'm not the only one with a floating Ameriglo rear sight on my gen 5 17. I thought I may have been on the losing end of tolerance stacking but it appears others have experienced the same. When I was installing the rear I immediately noticed that it was much easier to do so than previous Glocks, and a lot easier to drift when zeroing.
For what it's worth, they were too tall for my liking on my direct milled slide so I replaced them with a set of Dawsons that cowitness further down in the bottom 1/3 of the window. The Dawson rear only has one set screw but it's held zero for me so far.
noguns
02-10-2021, 07:32 PM
I feel like I'm missing something obvious, so please bear with me, but: where does a set screw figure in a sight set for a Glock?
On the rear sight there is a small screw that goes down and contacts the slide so it is more secure. I've had them on a rear Dawson's, 10-8, vickers battle site , etc. I don't think I've ever had a set screw on ameriglo or trijicon.
PS karmapolice props for the white stripe indexing mark on the top of the optic. I saw that suggested in a recently-viewed video on dots. I may end up doing that also.
noguns Thanks! Much appreciated.
So assuming the Dawson’s dovetail is properly sized, a suppressor rear sight for a Glock requires a setscrew? Or are the Dawson’s underside to the dovetail? I’m genuinely not clear on the mechanics involved that would ‘move’ a properly fitted Glock rear sigh while shooting? I’ve never had one walk out, but I’ve never used suppressor height ones, either, hence my confusion. Kinda hoping to learn something here, and make a better choice for sights than what I currently have planned (Ameriglo GL-429s). Thanks!
noguns
02-10-2021, 09:26 PM
I don't know if suppressor height sights specifically require a set screw. I'm just sharing my experience with these ameriglos. Maybe ameriglo made the suppressor sights slightly smaller or the glock MOS rear dovetail isnt as tight as a non MOS model. Either way I now prefer a rear sight that has at least one set screw. Perhaps I just got an MOS with slightly larger tolerances than others. But another member here mentioned sights walking. Mine seemed to drift to my left so I'm assuming that I leaned on the pistol while carrying(appendix )
On my MOS with ameriglos I punched the sight back to the center and applied red loctite. Hopefully it stays put. If it walks again I'll probably replace the sights with 10-8.
I don't know if suppressor height sights specifically require a set screw. I'm just sharing my experience with these ameriglos. Maybe ameriglo made the suppressor sights slightly smaller or the glock MOS rear dovetail isnt as tight as a non MOS model. Either way I now prefer a rear sight that has at least one set screw. Perhaps I just got an MOS with slightly larger tolerances than others. But another member here mentioned sights walking. Mine seemed to drift to my left so I'm assuming that I leaned on the pistol while carrying(appendix )
On my MOS with ameriglos I punched the sight back to the center and applied red loctite. Hopefully it stays put. If it walks again I'll probably replace the sights with 10-8.
Got it, thanks for the additional info, much appreciated.
Ndbbm
02-10-2021, 10:36 PM
Hilton Yam, the owner of 10-8, noted on the version 2 sights that it appeared Glock changed the rear dovetail a bit. The gen 2 sights apparently have a slightly larger section that slides in the dovetail.
Jason
Ok, since I have spare time and tend to overthink, I made up a spreadsheet for my combination of pistol (Glock 34), optic (Holosun 507c v2) and the possible sight sets (Ameriglo, Dawson, and 10 8) of suppressor heights. Assuming a deck height of 0.310" (what I measure, with the optic mounted on a Glock -02 plate; my CH PWS plate is on order) I've computed some numbers to compare front to back deltas with stock.
This is in the line outlined in yellow background:
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Couple questions: I'm seeing consistent front to back elevation deltas between stock polymer, Ameriglo, and 10 8. But the Dawson front sight seems really tall, by comparison. Am I reading their web site correctly for that SKU? Seems odd.
Also, can anybody confirm the presence or absence of a set screw on the rear sight for the Ameriglo and 10 8 (I assume not, based on the pictures they have on their web site)?
When my C&H plate gets here, I'll remeasure the deck height and recompute all these.
karmapolice
02-11-2021, 08:38 AM
I feel like I'm missing something obvious, so please bear with me, but: where does a set screw figure in a sight set for a Glock?
PS karmapolice props for the white stripe indexing mark on the top of the optic. I saw that suggested in a recently-viewed video on dots. I may end up doing that also.
Thanks, as others have mentioned with any dovetail sight even with a tight fit if t is bumped the sight can move etc. The set screw keeps this from happening minus a colossus impact to the rear sight (I'm sure with enough force you could make it move). I have personally had Ameriglo's ib gen 5 Glock slide loose multiple times with no bumps just shooting and seen second party others have the same issue. I have also seen it on gen4 but usually there was a bump involved and the person didn't notice right away, again a set screw will prevent this from happening under most circumstances.
HeavyDuty
02-11-2021, 09:04 AM
I have the common Ameriglos on my 19.5/C&H/RMR, but I did have the rear drift on me. Plus, I really dislike the plain flat surface of the rear sight and would like to swap out for serrated.
10-8s look like a good option. Brownells offers their 0.315 front and 0.395 rear with a 0.140 notch. Does this sound like a workable combination for a 19? I like Brownells because of my discount.
I have the common Ameriglos on my 19.5/C&H/RMR, but I did have the rear drift on me. Plus, I really dislike the plain flat surface of the rear sight and would like to swap out for serrated.
10-8s look like a good option. Brownells offers their 0.315 front and 0.395 rear with a 0.140 notch. Does this sound like a workable combination for a 19? I like Brownells because of my discount.
The 10 8's are where I am headed at the moment, based on the feedback here on the Amierglos, I'm not sure the deck height of a 19 MOS is different than a 34 MOS, though. Brownell's is super awesome to deal with, that's for sure.
Up1911Fan
02-11-2021, 10:35 AM
I still have the Ameriglos on two guns, but am using and much prefer the Dawson MOS sights. I'll be switching my last two out in the spring since it was -20 here yesterday and I don't feel like re zeroing the guns in the cold.
RancidSumo
02-11-2021, 10:46 AM
I have the common Ameriglos on my 19.5/C&H/RMR, but I did have the rear drift on me. Plus, I really dislike the plain flat surface of the rear sight and would like to swap out for serrated.
10-8s look like a good option. Brownells offers their 0.315 front and 0.395 rear with a 0.140 notch. Does this sound like a workable combination for a 19? I like Brownells because of my discount.
I have these (I'm not sure on the notch width, but those heights) on a 19.5MOS with FCD plate and they work great.
HeavyDuty
02-11-2021, 02:12 PM
I have these (I'm not sure on the notch width, but those heights) on a 19.5MOS with FCD plate and they work great.
Thanks! It might be worth ordering directly from 10-8 to get the wider notch - old eyes.
Savage Hands
02-12-2021, 06:55 PM
Those in California can guess how much flesh I gave up for this BNIB :o
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Enough that my Wife would be pissed...
Mjolnir
03-01-2021, 10:58 PM
Well, I finally got my grubby mits on a G19.5 MOS without ransoming any vital organs. Seems like aftermarket plates are preferred over the OEM MOS plates, but what's the current "ideal" setup? Is there combination of plate/optic/irons that's the best way to get a bare minimum usable back up irons without looking over the top scale models of the Great Wall and Red October conning tower sticking up and blocking half my optic window?
Forward Controls Development plate with Night Fision Optics Ready Sights. They just clear the RMR. The sights are Melonited (they won't likely rust) and they are $100.
Duelist
03-02-2021, 02:48 AM
Those in California can guess how much flesh I gave up for this BNIB :o
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Enough that my Wife would be pissed...
So. Did you tell her yet?
Savage Hands
03-02-2021, 09:34 AM
So. Did you tell her yet?
I did!
Thanks PF for always being the place to get good info. I don't know why I even check other forums...
Woke up one morning a few weeks back and thought "I'd like a 19.5 MOS". Checked local-ish shop on Facebook, they had just got some in, $599. Done. Ordered a FCD plate and a 507C with the ACSS reticle. Started getting itchy so waiting another month or 2 on 507C backorder so I ordered an RM06 3.25 that should be here today. Was about to order Ameriglos and thought "I'll check PF first..." and now I'm leaning toward Dawsons as I think I'd really prefer the lowest usable sight height possible. Thanks homies.
I did some other hunting around and thought I would add this in case others found it useful. HCM got me on the right track with his measurements and I verified on my own gun and with Dawson. .335 rear and .330 front with a Forward Controls plate and an RM06. I had read the depth of the Dawson notch was .80 but mine measures exactly .100 deep.
Pictures of sight pictures never convey well, but using the Dawson system of measuring top of slide to bottom of optic window +.100 gives the lowest height that will allow the full use of the rear notch. If a person wanted the absolute lowest, I think you could still get a usable sight picture going as much as .030-.040 lower. Overall I’m glad I picked what I did.
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Here is my emailing with Dawson:
Adam,
Yes if your measurements are correct.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 1:57 PM Adam
Thanks for the quick response! So a .335 rear and a .330 front for a Gen5 19 MOS correct? .005 shorter than the rear?
From: Dawson Sales
Yes, that is correct. .010 is like a few sheets of paper between your fingers.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 1:38 PM Adam
Hey Dawson Friends, I'm looking at purchasing the lowest usable iron sights I can for use as backups with my RMR on a 19 MOS. I found on a couple forums you had recommended to:
Measure from top of slide to bottom of optic window (for me this is .245")
Add .100 to allow for use of the full rear sight notch
So for me that would be a .345 rear sight, the closest stock offering you have is .335. So I'd just be losing .010 of usable rear notch correct? That isn't a deal killer for me, mainly just concerned sights will clear the optic and are usable. Some Modern Samurai Project students have mentioned using the .335 as well with success. Am I on the right track here?
Thanks a bunch!
Adam
I had read the depth of the Dawson notch was .080 but mine measures exactly .100 deep.
Too slow for PF edit cut off, corrected from above.
HCountyGuy
05-02-2021, 08:00 PM
Swapped my AmeriGlos out for some 10-8 sights since my rear sight had started to walk.
.315 front with the MOS rear with the .156 width notch.
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I have the Dawson's on my G19.5 MOS also. SIG ROMEO1 for RDO with the SIG plate.
Just so there is no confusion those are Dawson but they are custom height lower Dawsons.
The regular Dawson MOS co-witness IMHO block too much of the window especially on small window optics like the RMR.
medmo
07-27-2021, 03:27 PM
Just so there is no confusion those are Dawson but they are custom height lower Dawsons.
The regular Dawson MOS co-witness IMHO block too much of the window especially on small window optics like the RMR.
Got it, thanks. The Dawson front sight I installed was .420 height, SKU 310-255, AND did block too much of the window. This was my first "toe dip" into the MOS world. I've since moved on to a Holo 507C with Ameriglo irons and parked the Romeo 1 in the safe. Holo 507C on my recent LTT RDS Solutioned Px4CC also.
Clark Jackson
11-02-2021, 05:51 PM
Thanks, as others have mentioned with any dovetail sight even with a tight fit if t is bumped the sight can move etc. The set screw keeps this from happening minus a colossus impact to the rear sight (I'm sure with enough force you could make it move). I have personally had Ameriglo's ib gen 5 Glock slide loose multiple times with no bumps just shooting and seen second party others have the same issue. I have also seen it on gen4 but usually there was a bump involved and the person didn't notice right away, again a set screw will prevent this from happening under most circumstances.
Concur with Gen5/Heine. No issues with Ameriglos on Gen4. 100% go with the FCD plate.
I posted this in a different thread but think it may be more suited here.
What height sights will provide a lower 1/3 with an RMRcc on a 43X MOS?
I'm using GL-429s on my g45 and I want to achieve that sight picture with my 43X MOS.
I'm using a FCD plate
Duckysattva
03-18-2022, 10:40 PM
Another vote for 10-8 Optic/Tall height front and rear sights.
Gen 5 17 MOS
Forward Controls Design OPF-G RMR w/ RM06 Type 1 and 10-8 Performance backup irons.
Gives a very low but still useable lower 1/4 irons sight picture. Installed and zeroed at 25 yards prior to installing the RMR. POI is right on top of the front post at 25.
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WobblyPossum
03-18-2022, 10:43 PM
For those using the 10-8 Performance rear, did you have to file the base to install or did it just push/punch in without issue?
Duckysattva
03-19-2022, 08:14 AM
For those using the 10-8 Performance rear, did you have to file the base to install or did it just push/punch in without issue?
It was tight but it pushed in with an MGW rear sight pusher without issue. I didn’t have to crank down on the handle much to seat it but I don’t feel like mine will ever need to rely on the set screw. Still seated it and used vibra-tite just for good measure.
I’m always a little bit concerned when I install a rear sight with the pusher vs. a hammer & punch. I’ve installed a couple of sets of Dawson’s just like Dave does in his Glock video and I like the fact that I have a better feel for when the sight hits a dimensional hard stop. Then I can back it out and file and repeat as necessary until it’s a very snug fit and stops where I need the rear to be.
With the MGW tool I try to be sure that I’m not missing what would be that same hard stop by overcoming it with the mechanical advantage of the screw. So far I’ve only ever installed several Ameriglos, a set of Trijicon suppressor heights, and now the 10-8 rear. Have also used it to back out some Dawson’s. I used the subjective feel of the force required to remove and reinstall the Dawsons that I had previously filed and punched into place as the yard stick for how much input I’m willing to give the sight pusher tool. Any more difficulty than was needed for the Dawson’s and I’ll stop and file. Not overly scientific but so far I haven’t had to file any sights other than Dawson’s and luckily haven’t broken any sight dovetails (knock on wood).
WobblyPossum
04-02-2022, 06:06 PM
If there’s anyone running the following setup, can you post a photo of your sight picture please? Glock MOS, CHPWS plate, Trijicon RMR, and Ameriglo GL-470 irons (the 2XL with the .350 front and .429 rear). I’m debating between the GL-470 and the GL-429. I’ve got the GL-429s on a gun that’s milled for an RMR/Holosun but the height is going to be slightly different with a plate.
Duckysattva
10-01-2022, 09:09 AM
Anyone have experience using the combo of an SRO mounted with an FCD plate and using 10-8 backup irons?
Currently using the FCD plate and 10-8 irons with an RMR and the co-witness (lower 1/3 to 1/4) is exactly what I’m looking for but I’m looking to try the SRO and it seems that the rear deck height on them is slightly taller than the RMR. Don’t want to go the same route with an SRO and find that there’s no co-witness.
I can’t find dimensions for the rear deck height difference between the two but I’m deducing that there must be a difference based on 10-8s website which recommends the CHPWS plate and indicates a lower 1/3 when using it on the RMR but a lower 1/4 when using it on the SRO. Anyone ever measured the RMR vs SROs deck height? Could probably figure from that the remaining usable sight picture on irons.
Haven’t made the move on the SRO yet, still investigating so appreciate anyone’s input.
Sasage
11-02-2022, 07:03 PM
I did some other hunting around and thought I would add this in case others found it useful. HCM got me on the right track with his measurements and I verified on my own gun and with Dawson. .335 rear and .330 front with a Forward Controls plate and an RM06. I had read the depth of the Dawson notch was .80 but mine measures exactly .100 deep.
Pictures of sight pictures never convey well, but using the Dawson system of measuring top of slide to bottom of optic window +.100 gives the lowest height that will allow the full use of the rear notch. If a person wanted the absolute lowest, I think you could still get a usable sight picture going as much as .030-.040 lower. Overall I’m glad I picked what I did.
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Here is my emailing with Dawson:
Have a link for the rec rear?
No seeing it on the site unless I am looking in the wrong spot.
Have a link for the rec rear?
No seeing it on the site unless I am looking in the wrong spot.
Should be this one in .335”. BUT when I bought mine I ordered the front and rear as separate items, it wasn’t a set. Looks like they maybe changed something there. Might need to verify with Dawson. Also it isn’t uncommon for some items/combos to be out of stock.
https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-glock-mos-fixed-co-witness-rear-sights/
Sasage
11-02-2022, 07:51 PM
Should be this one in .335”. BUT when I bought mine I ordered the front and rear as separate items, it wasn’t a set. Looks like they maybe changed something there. Might need to verify with Dawson. Also it isn’t uncommon for some items/combos to be out of stock.
https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-glock-mos-fixed-co-witness-rear-sights/
Thank you, I was looking at the non cowitness one’s for whatever reason
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