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olstyn
01-01-2021, 02:06 PM
I recently (thanks for the Black Friday promo pricing!) bought a PPQ Wing Claw 2.5 for use with my P99 and/or P99c. P99 fit in the PPQ holster is good, as GJM mentioned it would be in another thread a long time ago - the gun clicks in nicely and retention is on par with my CCC OWB holster, or possibly even a little tighter.

This is my first AIWB holster, and as I play around with positioning it on my belt trying to get a feel for whether AIWB is going to work for me, I'm finding that one or the other of the pair of DCC clips often come into conflict with the belt loops on some of my pants relative to where I'm trying to place the holster. Would removing one of the two clips cause too much reduction in stability, or is that worth trying? The clips seem quite stout, so I'm thinking that wouldn't be unreasonable, but I figured it would make sense to just ask here vs wondering.

Thanks!

Up1911Fan
01-01-2021, 03:59 PM
I personally wouldn't remove a clip.

Elwin
01-01-2021, 05:46 PM
I carry with just the one clip that’s over the trigger guard area - plenty of quality holsters are made to be used like this, including the PHLster Classic. Using just one in the center like you’re talking about would offer the same acceptable level of security. It’s just going to be a matter of whether you like the new range of movement the holster has on your belt.

blues
01-01-2021, 05:52 PM
I carry with just the one clip that’s over the trigger guard area - plenty of quality holsters are made to be used like this, including the PHLster Classic. Using just one in the center like you’re talking about would offer the same acceptable level of security. It’s just going to be a matter of whether you like the new range of movement the holster has on your belt.

Our friend Tom @ Dark Star Gear carries a G17 bearing Orion with one DCC clip running up from the Dark Wing over the trigger guard. I asked him during a recent phone conversation whether he had an opportunity to roll while wearing in this fashion and he answered that he had and that it passed muster.

(In fact, his say so got me to try it out with a Tenicor Velo 4 I use for my G26 because I was having issues positioning it due to belt loops. So far, so good, but early days. I only have the one DCC running over the trigger guard as of a few days ago.)

Here's a link to one of his holster's set up that way...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHgibvnJ-CX/

ETA: Since this is Tony's forum, I think it only right to add that I own three of Tony's holsters...a G19 "George", as well as one for a G17 with a light, and one for an L frame S&W revolver...his work is impeccable.

littlejerry
01-01-2021, 07:07 PM
I recently (thanks for the Black Friday promo pricing!) bought a PPQ Wing Claw 2.5 for use with my P99 and/or P99c. P99 fit in the PPQ holster is good, as GJM mentioned it would be in another thread a long time ago - the gun clicks in nicely and retention is on par with my CCC OWB holster, or possibly even a little tighter.

This is my first AIWB holster, and as I play around with positioning it on my belt trying to get a feel for whether AIWB is going to work for me, I'm finding that one or the other of the pair of DCC clips often come into conflict with the belt loops on some of my pants relative to where I'm trying to place the holster. Would removing one of the two clips cause too much reduction in stability, or is that worth trying? The clips seem quite stout, so I'm thinking that wouldn't be unreasonable, but I figured it would make sense to just ask here vs wondering.

Thanks!

The wide hole spacing never worked out well for me either. I typically carry closer to my centerline and the clip over the sight channel would always interfere with the button on my pants.

Iv converted to using the DCC Monoblock and it seems to be more compatible with my attire.

olstyn
01-01-2021, 08:28 PM
Appreciate the replies, guys. Sounds like it's a reasonable thing to at least experiment with. :)

Bucky
01-01-2021, 08:37 PM
I run only one clip on my 2.5. In fact, it’s not even their clip. I fit a GCode plastic clip to mine, which allows me to carry a little lower in the belt line. The single clip application also allows the holster to move a little with your body, making it more comfortable for some. Others prefer the rigidity of dual clips. YMMV.

ViniVidivici
01-04-2021, 04:33 PM
FWIW, I run a Wing Claw 2.0 with only one tuckable strut w/PDS loop, over triggerguard, for better fitment.

Wearin' it right now, in a NPE.

It is perfectly safe and reliable to do so, drive on.

Tony Mayer
01-05-2021, 04:15 AM
I recently (thanks for the Black Friday promo pricing!) bought a PPQ Wing Claw 2.5 for use with my P99 and/or P99c. P99 fit in the PPQ holster is good, as GJM mentioned it would be in another thread a long time ago - the gun clicks in nicely and retention is on par with my CCC OWB holster, or possibly even a little tighter.

This is my first AIWB holster, and as I play around with positioning it on my belt trying to get a feel for whether AIWB is going to work for me, I'm finding that one or the other of the pair of DCC clips often come into conflict with the belt loops on some of my pants relative to where I'm trying to place the holster. Would removing one of the two clips cause too much reduction in stability, or is that worth trying? The clips seem quite stout, so I'm thinking that wouldn't be unreasonable, but I figured it would make sense to just ask here vs wondering.

Thanks!

It's all completely personal, don't be worried to try out something new/different. Make it work for you. I am not a fan of the 1 clip, but I don't want the holster to lose any cant, but that's me.

RJ
06-25-2021, 04:47 PM
I hope olstyn doesn’t mind piling on this thread with a JM CK AIWB 2.5 / DCC question. I checked and of the forum sponsors, only Tony (I think) makes a left handed G19 length AIWB. I don’t want a G17 length (personal previous experience) AIWB.

I’m transitioning from a Gock 48 in a DSG Hitchhicker with a single DCC clip and a Dark Wing (as pictured below), to a Glock 19 MOS. The DSG holster worked really well for me.

Can I get close to this set up with a JM CK AIWB 2.5? Or do I want a 2.0? What set of order options would end up with a G19-sized holster like this? I’ve worked on an item in my shipping cart, as per below, but wanted to get some input:

AIWB Wing Claw 2.5 - G19 $70
Belt loops: 1.5” DCC
Carry Side: Left
Color: Orange $2
DCC Option: 1.5” DCC Clips $10
Guard: Full
Hole pattern:wide
Muzzle Pad: None
Red Dot Cut: Yes $5.

I know I would need to take off the DCC Monoblock and put on the DCC Mod 4 1.5" clip I currently have, but I want both upper and lower sets of holes for maximum flexibility.

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olstyn
06-25-2021, 07:38 PM
I hope olstyn doesn’t mind piling on this thread with a JM CK AIWB 2.5 / DCC question.

As I'm sure you can tell by the fact that I liked your post, I'm deeply, deeply offended. :)

RJ
06-27-2021, 10:45 AM
What set of order options would end up with a G19-sized holster like this...



I took a previously used Glock 19 JM CK shell from my last G19 (I think it is an IWB, 10 deg cant) and mocked up what I would like to have as a setup. This carries pretty well for me, standing, sitting etc. albeit obviously a little bit thicker than the G48 rig.

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Custom order will be as follows, appreciate any feedback:

Shopping Cart

AIWB Holster - Wing Claw 2.5
Pistol: Glock 19 (Fits Gen 3/4/5)
Belt Loops: 1.5" DCC Monoblock
Carry Side: Left
Color: Orange $2.00
Discreet Carry Clips (DCC) Option: 1.5" Discreet Carry Clips $10.00
Guard: Full
Hole Pattern: Wide (only works with “Pull-the-Dot” loops)
Angular Muzzle Pad: None
Red Dot Sight Cut $5.00
Qty: 1

littlejerry
06-27-2021, 02:00 PM
I took a previously used Glock 19 JM CK shell from my last G19 (I think it is an IWB, 10 deg cant) and mocked up what I would like to have as a setup. This carries pretty well for me, standing, sitting etc. albeit obviously a little bit thicker than the G48 rig.

73477

Custom order will be as follows, appreciate any feedback:

Shopping Cart

AIWB Holster - Wing Claw 2.5
Pistol: Glock 19 (Fits Gen 3/4/5)
Belt Loops: 1.5" DCC Monoblock
Carry Side: Left
Color: Orange $2.00
Discreet Carry Clips (DCC) Option: 1.5" Discreet Carry Clips $10.00
Guard: Full
Hole Pattern: Wide (only works with “Pull-the-Dot” loops)
Angular Muzzle Pad: None
Red Dot Sight Cut $5.00
Qty: 1
Two issues:
1) The DCC monoblock donest work with the wide hole patterns, or do you want both hole patterns?
2) You'll have to carry and draw from the wrong side of your body, which could get you kilt on the streets

RJ
06-27-2021, 02:05 PM
Two issues:
1) The DCC monoblock donest work with the wide hole patterns, or do you want both hole patterns?
2) You'll have to carry and draw from the wrong side of your body, which could get you kilt on the streets

1) not sure how to specify the holster, is my problem, or I am confused, or both. Probably both.

This is what I want, except in lefty, cut for a dot, for a G19. What are the order options for this?

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2) whelp that's how God made me. :)

littlejerry
06-27-2021, 02:15 PM
1) not sure how to specify the holster, is my problem, or I am confused, or both. Probably both.

This is what I want, except in lefty, cut for a dot, for a G19. What are the order options for this?

73484

2) whelp that's how God made me. :)

Standard hole spacing works with the DCC monoblock. But if in doubt, call Tony and tell him what you want. Good guy to deal with

Ndbbm
06-27-2021, 06:26 PM
Pretty sure that’s the standard hole spacing. I also don’t think you can get wide hole spacing with the red dot cut.

Jason

RJ
06-27-2021, 06:28 PM
Pretty sure that’s the standard hole spacing. I also don’t think you can get wide hole spacing with the red dot cut.

Jason

Thanks, that makes sense.

Tony Mayer
07-01-2021, 07:57 AM
I hope olstyn doesn’t mind piling on this thread with a JM CK AIWB 2.5 / DCC question. I checked and of the forum sponsors, only Tony (I think) makes a left handed G19 length AIWB. I don’t want a G17 length (personal previous experience) AIWB.

I’m transitioning from a Gock 48 in a DSG Hitchhicker with a single DCC clip and a Dark Wing (as pictured below), to a Glock 19 MOS. The DSG holster worked really well for me.

Can I get close to this set up with a JM CK AIWB 2.5? Or do I want a 2.0? What set of order options would end up with a G19-sized holster like this? I’ve worked on an item in my shipping cart, as per below, but wanted to get some input:

AIWB Wing Claw 2.5 - G19 $70
Belt loops: 1.5” DCC
Carry Side: Left
Color: Orange $2
DCC Option: 1.5” DCC Clips $10
Guard: Full
Hole pattern:wide
Muzzle Pad: None
Red Dot Cut: Yes $5.

I know I would need to take off the DCC Monoblock and put on the DCC Mod 4 1.5" clip I currently have, but I want both upper and lower sets of holes for maximum flexibility.

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RJ, you will want the WC 2.5, normal hole pattern, with DCC option and red dot cut. Thanks

RJ
07-03-2021, 10:12 AM
RJ, you will want the WC 2.5, normal hole pattern, with DCC option and red dot cut. Thanks

Thanks Tony, I placed the order today. Much obliged.

eb07
07-03-2021, 10:17 AM
I have dual clips for my lwc wing claw 2.5 and I just put it right over the loop on some of the holsters. with one under belt and the other dug into the loop, I have never had an issue drawing the weapon. All pants are not created equal but these clips hold.

JRV
07-13-2021, 09:34 AM
I’m planning on trying out the Wing Claw 2.5 setup with a single DCC clip (the one attached over the Wing) with a full-size P320. The clips already fit airtight over a Mastermind belt, but I’m having issues with belt loop and button spacing on some pants. I’ll report back with impressions of stability.

Edited: I'm walking around and sitting and not really noticing any appreciable cant. Maybe a couple degrees, but the Mastermind belt already allowed a little bit of flex anyways. I also have a Mastermind junk carry pillow on this rig, so that may be serving as an additional anchor point.

RJ
07-17-2021, 03:59 PM
Received my JM CK order yesterday. I am super happy with this holster. Tony has knocked it out of the park, again.

AIWB WC 2.5, G19, DCC Monoblock loops+1.5 DCC clips, lefty, p-f orange (naturally :cool:), full guard, normal hole pattern, no muzzle pad, optic cut.

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I installed my usual two pads: the upper is a Dr. Scholl's Womens Gel Heel pad (a la Melody Lauer holster hack) upside down, and a Mastermind Tactics Appendix Carry Pillow - Wedge (original). I am going to start wearing it exactly as Tony set it up, with the two DCC clips. I figure he knows a thing or two about holsters and it's a good place to begin. I have it on right now, with my regular EDC belt, a Mastermind Tactics Specialist in wolf gray, and it's very comfortable sitting, standing, walking. I think this is really going to work out very well.

Ndbbm
11-14-2021, 12:17 PM
Just curious but will the spacing for the dcc clips allow the use of a Darkstar gear clip?


Jason

Tony Mayer
11-14-2021, 04:53 PM
Just curious but will the spacing for the dcc clips allow the use of a Darkstar gear clip?


Jason

Jason, no it doesn't.

Ndbbm
11-14-2021, 11:19 PM
Thank you Sir.