32 Long Wadcutters

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Well, watching the ammo doom panic, I relented a bit and bought some 32 SW Long 100 gr lead wadcutters for my 32 cal revolvers. Just because, just to have something for them. I have a bit of 32 HR mag and 327 but not much. You never know when the last zombie comes over the ridge. 250 rounds should keep me happy.

I used to shoot Fiocchi 32 SW Long FMJ in matches as an outlaw revolver but used that all up before the plague.

[Malamute]

You dont reload at all?

If not, do you still have the 32 S&W long brass?

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Don't reload and I gave the old brass to a reloader friend awhile ago. Sorry.

[revchuck38]

IIRC, the wadcutters were the hottest .32 S&W Long ammo available, at least in Europe. They needed some oomph in order to function in Walther GSPs and such. Not sure if US-produced ammo followed suit.

[Wheeler]

IIRC, the wadcutters were the hottest .32 S&W Long ammo available, at least in Europe. They needed some oomph in order to function in Walther GSPs and such. Not sure if US-produced ammo followed suit.

SAAMI specs on the US ammo keeps the pressure pretty low due to all the break action, pot metal guns chambered in .32 S&W Long.

[revchuck38]

Glenn E. Meyer - SGA (https://www.sgammo.com/product/32-sw-long-ammo/50-round-box-32-sw-long-100-grain-fiocchi-wad-cutter-ammo-32la) has Fiocchi wadcutter, $36/box of 50. They show 142 in stock.

[pangloss]

You dont reload at all?

If not, do you still have the 32 S&W long brass?

I used to reload and even have a set of .32 dies, but realistically, I'm not going to set my press up again anytime soon. Do you need some .32 S&W long brass? I have a little I'd be happy to send your way. If the boxes in my empty brass crate are full, it looks like I have ~300 brass.

[john c]

I used to reload and even have a set of .32 dies, but realistically, I'm not going to set my press up again anytime soon. Do you need some .32 S&W long brass? I have a little I'd be happy to send your way. If the boxes in my empty brass crate are full, it looks like I have ~300 brass.

If Malamute passes, I'll gladly pay you market rate for them (10 cents each, around here, plus shipping).

[Hambo]

You dont reload at all?

If not, do you still have the 32 S&W long brass?

You don't waste any time, do you? ;)

[Malamute]

You don't waste any time, do you? ;)


Never hurts to ask. And in the current supply situation, even brass isnt as easy to find.


Pangloss was kind enough to help me out with a bit of brass. Im probably fixed for brass for as much 32 shooting as Ill ever do.

[Hambo]

Never hurts to ask.

MY comment was just teasing from another guy who asks about brass. ;) I wouldn't ask about food (Hey, you gonna finish that?) unless it was tamales.

[willie]

My wife made 12 dozen tamales from scratch recently and also made a dozen big Mason jars of picante sauce. I think about Hambo, bless his heart, every time I eat these tamales heaped with the magic sauce. Life is good.:cool:

[revchuck38]

willie - Dang, that's just cold. :)

[Borderland]

My wife made 12 dozen tamales from scratch recently and also made a dozen big Mason jars of picante sauce. I think about Hambo, bless his heart, every time I eat these tamales heaped with the magic sauce. Life is good.:cool:

Tamales aren't that easy to make nor can one find corn husks just anywhere. Almost have to have a Mexican market in your neighborhood or maybe Amazon, I haven't looked. The Mercado where I live makes them fresh every weekend. Unfortunately I didn't marry a woman who knew anything about Mexican cuisine so consider yourself lucky amigo.

I do have plenty of 32L brass however.;)

[willie]

Tamales aren't that easy to make nor can one find corn husks just anywhere. Almost have to have a Mexican market in your neighborhood or maybe Amazon, I haven't looked. The Mercado where I live makes them fresh every weekend. Unfortunately I didn't marry a woman who knew anything about Mexican cuisine so consider yourself lucky amigo.

I do have plenty of 32L brass however.;)

I have a sack full of .32 Long brass, a Mexican wife, and a slop jar full of nuts. ;)

[Lex Luthier]

willie - Dang, that's just cold. :)

65967

[Malamute]

Tamales aren't that easy to make nor can one find corn husks just anywhere. Almost have to have a Mexican market in your neighborhood or maybe Amazon, I haven't looked. The Mercado where I live makes them fresh every weekend. Unfortunately I didn't marry a woman who knew anything about Mexican cuisine so consider yourself lucky amigo.

I do have plenty of 32L brass however.;)


Its been a long while since Ive had good home made tamales. A friend just rolled in from Az, her sis sent along a batch of tamales she made. :D

[Borderland]

Its been a long while since Ive had good home made tamales. A friend just rolled in from Az, her sis sent along a batch of tamales she made. :D

My sis was in the hospital awhile back and my bro sent her a dozen tamales instead of flowers. Big hit with the nursing staff there in San Angelo. Everybody likes good tamales.

Quick story. We were camping on BLM land about 60 miles north of the border a few years ago. A Mexican dude in a beat up Nissan PU rolls thru the camp and people are flagging him down and buying something from him. He rolls by our camp so I wave him down to see what he's selling. Turns out it's fresh tamales, sole and prawns. We bought some of everything and ate like kings for a week. His wife was making the tamales and he bought the seafood at the dock in Puerto Penasco, He made the trip once a week and sold out.

[Hambo]

Its been a long while since Ive had good home made tamales. A friend just rolled in from Az, her sis sent along a batch of tamales she made. :D

I'm not even polite when there are home made tamales, I just go to town with both hands. There should be a sign: keep your hands and feet clear of the machine. A friend of mine brought two rectangular Tupperware cake boxes of them to a party, and some of the gringos had never seen a live tamale before. I was chowing down when a couple of guys asked me what they were and if they were good. I've got one in each hand and I'm eating them in two bites. So I tell them, "No, God only knows what they put in these things. You wouldn't like them. They're fucking horrible."

[rkittine]

I just got another 1,050 pieces of once fired .32 S&W Long Brass. My STAR Reloaders set for loading .32 WCs can really spit loaded rounds out.

Bob

[Borderland]

I'm not even polite when there are home made tamales, I just go to town with both hands. There should be a sign: keep your hands and feet clear of the machine. A friend of mine brought two rectangular Tupperware cake boxes of them to a party, and some of the gringos had never seen a live tamale before. I was chowing down when a couple of guys asked me what they were and if they were good. I've got one in each hand and I'm eating them in two bites. So I tell them, "No, God only knows what they put in these things. You wouldn't like them. They're fucking horrible."

Years ago we had some friends over for lunch and served tamales. One individual who shall remain nameless had never eaten a tamale and proceeded to eat it without removing the corn husk. He had a very strange look on his face when he bit into it. I thought everyone knew what a tamale was and how to eat it. I was wrong. He should have said something.

[Borderland]

I'm relatively new to 32 long and had to buy Starline brass, find bullets and dies. Powder isn't that easy either as it seems the case size puts it in a specialty category. What works in larger cases like 38 spl won't work in 32 long. Some of the best powder for 32 Long is no longer made. I tried 2400 from a published load and it sucked. Eventually I started a search and found a very old article that was useful. It mentioned IMR 7625 that I had. Great powder for 32L but discontinued. When that's gone I'll find something else.

RCBS has specialty cowboy dies for lead bullets. As that's all I shoot I ordered a set. Great dies for lead bullets.

Sorry for the tamale drift.

[mtnbkr]

I'm relatively new to 32 long and had to buy Starline brass, find bullets and dies. Powder isn't that easy either as it seems the case size puts it in a specialty category. What works in larger cases like 38 spl won't work in 32 long. Some of the best powder for 32 Long is no longer made. I tried 2400 from a published load and it sucked. Eventually I started a search and found a very old article that was useful. It mentioned IMR 7625 that I had. Great powder for 32L but discontinued. When that's gone I'll find something else.

RCBS has specialty cowboy dies for lead bullets. As that's all I shoot I ordered a set. Great dies for lead bullets.

Sorry for the tamale drift.

You should be able to find loads using Unique, 231/HP38, and Bullseye. Any fast powder should be fine. It's not the smallest case I've loaded, 32ACP has that distinction.

http://www.reloadammo.com/32swlong.htm

Chris

[Borderland]

You should be able to find loads using Unique, 231/HP38, and Bullseye. Any fast powder should be fine. It's not the smallest case I've loaded, 32ACP has that distinction.

http://www.reloadammo.com/32swlong.htm

Chris

Thanks. I saved the link.

[revchuck38]

I'm relatively new to 32 long and had to buy Starline brass, find bullets and dies. Powder isn't that easy either as it seems the case size puts it in a specialty category. What works in larger cases like 38 spl won't work in 32 long. Some of the best powder for 32 Long is no longer made. I tried 2400 from a published load and it sucked. Eventually I started a search and found a very old article that was useful. It mentioned IMR 7625 that I had. Great powder for 32L but discontinued. When that's gone I'll find something else.

RCBS has specialty cowboy dies for lead bullets. As that's all I shoot I ordered a set. Great dies for lead bullets.

Sorry for the tamale drift.

What bullet weight and velocity are you looking for?

Alliant shows 1.8 grains of Bullseye under a 98-grain HBWC.

Hodgdon's data for a 90-grain LSWC:

Hodgdon Universal 0.314" 1.185" 2.4 777 8,800 CUP 2.7 844 10,200 CUP

Hodgdon HP-38 0.314" 1.185" 2.1 744 9,100 CUP 2.4 831 11,300 CUP

Hodgdon Trail Boss 0.314" 1.185" 1.5 599 5,900 CUP 2.0 730 8,100 CUP

Hodgdon Titegroup 0.314" 1.185" 1.9 765 10,200 CUP 2.1 818 10,900 CUP

From Hornady's #7 manual, max loads with a 90-grain LSWC

700-X: 1.9
HP-38: 1.9 (I think this is lighter than needed, see above)
Bullseye: 2.0
Red Dot: 2.1
Green Dot: 2.2
Unique: 2.5
231: 2.5

From Speer's #14, max loads
90-grain LFP
Titegroup: 2.5
700-X: 2.5
231: 2.7
AA No. 2 Impr.: 2.6
Bullseye: 2.3
Red Dot: 2.3
Nitro 100: 2.1

98-grain LSWC:
Viht 3N37: 3.7
2400: 5.6
AA No. 9: 5.7
231: 2.7
Universal: 3.0
Bullseye: 2.3
Unique: 2.8
WSF: 2.8
AA No. 5: 3.8
Red Dot: 2.1

Ideal Handbook, 40th Edition (copyright 1955)
90-grain RNL
Bullseye: 2.7
Unique: 4.5

So, you were saying about available data...? :)

[mtnbkr]

Borderland, what gun are you loading 32SWL for?

Chris

[Borderland]

What bullet weight and velocity are you looking for?

Alliant shows 1.8 grains of Bullseye under a 98-grain HBWC.

Hodgdon's data for a 90-grain LSWC:

Hodgdon Universal 0.314" 1.185" 2.4 777 8,800 CUP 2.7 844 10,200 CUP

Hodgdon HP-38 0.314" 1.185" 2.1 744 9,100 CUP 2.4 831 11,300 CUP

Hodgdon Trail Boss 0.314" 1.185" 1.5 599 5,900 CUP 2.0 730 8,100 CUP

Hodgdon Titegroup 0.314" 1.185" 1.9 765 10,200 CUP 2.1 818 10,900 CUP

From Hornady's #7 manual, max loads with a 90-grain LSWC

700-X: 1.9
HP-38: 1.9 (I think this is lighter than needed, see above)
Bullseye: 2.0
Red Dot: 2.1
Green Dot: 2.2
Unique: 2.5
231: 2.5

From Speer's #14, max loads
90-grain LFP
Titegroup: 2.5
700-X: 2.5
231: 2.7
AA No. 2 Impr.: 2.6
Bullseye: 2.3
Red Dot: 2.3
Nitro 100: 2.1

98-grain LSWC:
Viht 3N37: 3.7
2400: 5.6
AA No. 9: 5.7
231: 2.7
Universal: 3.0
Bullseye: 2.3
Unique: 2.8
WSF: 2.8
AA No. 5: 3.8
Red Dot: 2.1

Ideal Handbook, 40th Edition (copyright 1955)
90-grain RNL
Bullseye: 2.7
Unique: 4.5

So, you were saying about available data...? :)

OK. Saving that also. I have a small amount of Bullseye and I'll load that next. One I haven't tried. By the time I get around to a new powder it will probably all be gone. ;) I'm just fooling around with 32 L because I'm curious about the cartridge, not my EDC or anything.

I think my bullets are 98 or 100 gr Acme coated SWC. Gun is a 4" S&W 31-1, which is a J frame.

Thanks.

[mtnbkr]

Gun is a 4" S&W 31-1, which is a J frame.
Gotcha. I cast 120gr SWCs for my 32-20 and 32swl. Both are k-frames with longer barrels.

Chris

[jws]

I'm relatively new to 32 long and had to buy Starline brass, find bullets and dies. Powder isn't that easy either as it seems the case size puts it in a specialty category. What works in larger cases like 38 spl won't work in 32 long. Some of the best powder for 32 Long is no longer made. I tried 2400 from a published load and it sucked. Eventually I started a search and found a very old article that was useful. It mentioned IMR 7625 that I had. Great powder for 32L but discontinued. When that's gone I'll find something else.

RCBS has specialty cowboy dies for lead bullets. As that's all I shoot I ordered a set. Great dies for lead bullets.

Sorry for the tamale drift.

The link below may contain some useful info. If you go the the home page via the link at the bottom of the article that says “return to the back creek diary” you will find more articles on a variety of topics that are worth reading. I came across this site a few years ago and have enjoyed reading through them.

https://www.hensleygibbs.com/edharris/articles/32longnotes2.htm

[Borderland]

The link below may contain some useful info. If you go the the home page via the link at the bottom of the article that says “return to the back creek diary” you will find more articles on a variety of topics that are worth reading. I came across this site a few years ago and have enjoyed reading through them.

https://www.hensleygibbs.com/edharris/articles/32longnotes2.htm

That was some great history. Thanks. I liked where he states that you can reload 32L cheaper than buying 22LR and it's a better small game cartridge. Now I'm curious. I'll have to break the cost down and compare. With todays prices for 22LR, loading 32L probably has it beat.

[Hambo]

That was some great history. Thanks. I liked where he states that you can reload 32L cheaper than buying 22LR and it's a better small game cartridge. Now I'm curious. I'll have to break the cost down and compare. With todays prices for 22LR, loading 32L probably has it beat.

That is in part why I bought my .327. I wanted to not have to depend on .22 during panics.

[Wheeler]

That was some great history. Thanks. I liked where he states that you can reload 32L cheaper than buying 22LR and it's a better small game cartridge. Now I'm curious. I'll have to break the cost down and compare. With todays prices for 22LR, loading 32L probably has it beat.

I haven’t kept up with the current prices of .22 so my data is dated. With casting, I could load .32 Long for just under $.05/round. That was when I could buy 1000 SPPs for around $25/1000.

[mtnbkr]

I've had a S&W K-32 for a few years now. It's a sweet shooting gun for virtually anything you'd do with a 22lr. I really need to pull it out of the safe more often.

Chris

[jws]

That was some great history. Thanks. I liked where he states that you can reload 32L cheaper than buying 22LR and it's a better small game cartridge. Now I'm curious. I'll have to break the cost down and compare. With todays prices for 22LR, loading 32L probably has it beat.

I have been considering a .32 cal revolver lately myself to complement my .22 revolver for those reasons as well.

[Borderland]

I've had a S&W K-32 for a few years now. It's a sweet shooting gun for virtually anything you'd do with a 22lr. I really need to pull it out of the safe more often.

Chris

That's what I originally wanted to buy when I started looking but those are about 3x more than what I paid for my 31-1. Even the 30 and 31-1 have started to get expensive.

[Borderland]

I have been considering a .32 cal revolver lately myself to complement my .22 revolver for those reasons as well.

I just broke down my cost to reload without casting bullets. Works out to be about 0.12/rd without factoring in brass. If a guy wanted he could probably scrounge enough brass to get started. It's not like it's in high demand. ;)

[Lex Luthier]

Sorry for the tamale drift.

No worries...I got to make a fun reusable Meme from it. Beats grumping.
Even though she is Swedish & Finn, my wife does know her way around tamales, and makes very creditable ones. She uses banana leaves for some of the deeper Central American variants, too.

I am quite interested in the various .32 L loads, having a growing fascination with those bitty little cartridges and the lovely refined little revolvers that fire them. Have you pics of yours?

[mtnbkr]

That's what I originally wanted to buy when I started looking but those are about 3x more than what I paid for my 31-1. Even the 30 and 31-1 have started to get expensive.

I straight up got lucky on mine. I walked into a small gun shop with no plans to buy anything, but stopped because they sometimes get unusual things on consignment (small town in SW VA). I had never seen a K32 in the flesh and found myself staring at one for the princely sum of $500 and me with a copy of my C&R FFL in the glove box of the car. A quick serial number check to confirm it was old enough to qualify as C&R and a swipe of my credit card and I'm out the door and calling my buddy to gloat. :D

Chris

[Borderland]

I straight up got lucky on mine. I walked into a small gun shop with no plans to buy anything, but stopped because they sometimes get unusual things on consignment (small town in SW VA). I had never seen a K32 in the flesh and found myself staring at one for the princely sum of $500 and me with a copy of my C&R FFL in the glove box of the car. A quick serial number check to confirm it was old enough to qualify as C&R and a swipe of my credit card and I'm out the door and calling my buddy to gloat. :D

Chris

Score. :D

[jws]

I just broke down my cost to reload without casting bullets. Works out to be about 0.12/rd without factoring in brass. If a guy wanted he could probably scrounge enough brass to get started. It's not like it's in high demand. ;)

That cost is very reasonable! It may be time to get more serious about finding a .32 cal revolver.

[Borderland]

No worries...I got to make a fun reusable Meme from it. Beats grumping.
Even though she is Swedish & Finn, my wife does know her way around tamales, and makes very creditable ones. She uses banana leaves for some of the deeper Central American variants, too.

I am quite interested in the various .32 L loads, having a growing fascination with those bitty little cartridges and the lovely refined little revolvers that fire them. Have you pics of yours?

https://i.ibb.co/cxz38gn/P1000943.jpg

[revchuck38]

Borderland - That's a nice one!

[Borderland]

No worries...I got to make a fun reusable Meme from it. Beats grumping.
Even though she is Swedish & Finn, my wife does know her way around tamales, and makes very creditable ones. She uses banana leaves for some of the deeper Central American variants, too.

I am quite interested in the various .32 L loads, having a growing fascination with those bitty little cartridges and the lovely refined little revolvers that fire them. Have you pics of yours?

A brother.

My wife has mostly Danish heritage. She's a damn good cook but not being raised in a Mexican culture like I was she doesn't understand the draw to chile powder. I think one almost has to be weaned on it to be able to cook without fear of the flaming asshole.

Evidently your wife has no fear and has ventured off into some unknown territory. I like that.

[Borderland]

I haven’t kept up with the current prices of .22 so my data is dated. With casting, I could load .32 Long for just under $.05/round. That was when I could buy 1000 SPPs for around $25/1000.

22LR looks like 0.40/rd and up. Good luck finding any.

Those days are long gone. I stocked up about 4 years ago at $33/1000. I don't think we will ever see primers again for less than $35/1000 and it may take years to see that.

[03RN]

https://www.ammofreedom.com/magtech-ammo-sport-shooting-32-sw-long-semi-jhp-98-grain-50-rounds-32swlc-p-109859.html?slave_id=11196

[Jamie]

I've been loading some 100 gr lead bullets with 1.9 grains of Bullseye. My old Smith loves that load! It shoots better than I do...
and makes a .22 feel like it has some recoil. :)

66063

[Lex Luthier]

I've been loading some 100 gr lead bullets with 1.9 grains of Bullseye. My old Smith loves that load! It shoots better than I do...
and makes a .22 feel like it has some recoil. :)

66063

Make that a three inch barrel and a slightly more shadow-producing front sight(or a bead), and I would be the happiest of Evil Genius guitar makers. Goes for Borderland's blued version, too.
But I *love* the early Hand Ejectors.

[Joe in PNG]

A.32 wheelgun of some sort is on my list. Either a S&W .32-20 to replace my grandfather's that rusted out before I could inherit it, or a new Ruger Single Seven in .327.
Or both probably.

[Jamie]

Make that a three inch barrel and a slightly more shadow-producing front sight(or a bead), and I would be the happiest of Evil Genius guitar makers. Goes for Borderland's blued version, too.
But I *love* the early Hand Ejectors.

I don't know what kind of voodoo magic it is, but those sights are actually ridiculously easy to see and use.
I never would have thought that until I started shooting this old gun. But yes, a 3 inch barrel would be sweet.

[Lex Luthier]

I don't know what kind of voodoo magic it is, but those sights are actually ridiculously easy to see and use.
I never would have thought that until I started shooting this old gun. But yes, a 3 inch barrel would be sweet.

I had a C. 1912 Hand Ejector Model of 1905 in .38 spl with a 4" barrel, and the sights were really ok....but that was 20 years and four eyeglasses prescriptions ago, and in a state with much more mediterranean lighting conditions.

[revolvergeek]

I'm relatively new to 32 long and had to buy Starline brass, find bullets and dies. Powder isn't that easy either as it seems the case size puts it in a specialty category. What works in larger cases like 38 spl won't work in 32 long. Some of the best powder for 32 Long is no longer made. I tried 2400 from a published load and it sucked. Eventually I started a search and found a very old article that was useful. It mentioned IMR 7625 that I had. Great powder for 32L but discontinued. When that's gone I'll find something else.

RCBS has specialty cowboy dies for lead bullets. As that's all I shoot I ordered a set. Great dies for lead bullets.

Sorry for the tamale drift.

I have loaded many rounds of .32 Long with Red Dot, both the old and the new mix.