CVN-81 USS Doris Miller

[LittleLebowski]

I'm OK with this, better than the USS Gabby Giffords or the USS Harvey Milk. What a badass.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Doris_Miller


Doris "Dorie" Miller (October 12, 1919 – November 24, 1943) was an American Sailor in the United States Navy.[1] He manned anti-aircraft guns during the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, for which he had no training, and tended to the wounded. He was recognized by the Navy for his actions and awarded the Navy Cross.

He was the first black American to be awarded the Navy Cross, the second highest decoration for valor awarded by the Navy, after the Medal of Honor.[2][3] Miller's acts were heavily publicized in the black press, making him an iconic emblem of the war for black Americans.[4] Nearly two years after Pearl Harbor, he was killed in action when his ship Liscome Bay was sunk by a Japanese submarine during the Battle of Makin.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/doris-miller-1601465036.jpg

[NickA]

Definitely a hero worthy of being remembered.
I always associate him with a history teacher I had in HS. She was big on black history and talked about Dorie Miller quite a bit, as he was from our general area.

[JRB]

America has too many forgotten warfighting heroes to name our warships after anyone less. Dorie Miller is a perfect example - spent virtually his entirely too-short adult life in wartime military service and died all of 24 years old with a Navy Cross. I've met people that hadn't even moved out of their parents house at that age.

Naming warships after politicians? To hell with that.

I'll give a nod to the UK here, though, as they know how to name a warship for its own sake.

[Zincwarrior]

America has too many forgotten warfighting heroes to name our warships after anyone less. Dorie Miller is a perfect example - spent virtually his entirely too-short adult life in wartime military service and died all of 24 years old with a Navy Cross. I've met people that hadn't even moved out of their parents house at that age.

Naming warships after politicians? To hell with that.

I'll give a nod to the UK here, though, as they know how to name a warship for its own sake.

JRB has the way of it. Either name them and bases after bonafide heroes, or let the British Admiralty name them.
(Imagines an Iowa class named the Queen Anne's Revenge pounding the Yamato into gravy).

[feudist]

I could sign off on a USS Harriet Tubman.

She did plenty of the Lord's work

[Wondering Beard]

I could sign off on a USS Harriet Tubman.

She did plenty of the Lord's work

I don't remember her doing much naval stuff. So I think the next tank should be the Harriet.

[JRB]

I wouldn't dream of taking anything away from what Harriet Tubman accomplished. But her name already graces schools, history books, scholarships, buildings, monuments, etc and rightfully so.

Too many worthy names of warfighters get none of that recognition. In naming warships, even modest ones, we have one of a very few opportunities to celebrate those heroes. Especially in a day and age when the word 'Hero' is so profoundly overused. Which is why I'd like to see warships and such named exclusively after truly memorable uniformed personnel.

Armor traditionally take on names of successful higher commanders and Generals (e.g. Abrams) or they're named in a more 'for themselves' style (e.g. Paladin) - and I'm totally OK with those methodologies.

[blues]

I don't remember her doing much naval stuff. So I think the next tank should be the Harriet.


Navel Naval Gazing...

https://cdn.dvidshub.net/media/thumbs/photos/1908/5699488/1000w_q95.jpg

[Wondering Beard]

I wouldn't dream of taking anything away from what Harriet Tubman accomplished. But her name already graces schools, history books, scholarships, buildings, monuments, etc and rightfully so.

Too many worthy names of warfighters get none of that recognition. In naming warships, even modest ones, we have one of a very few opportunities to celebrate those heroes. Especially in a day and age when the word 'Hero' is so profoundly overused. Which is why I'd like to see warships and such named exclusively after truly memorable uniformed personnel.

Armor traditionally take on names of successful higher commanders and Generals (e.g. Abrams) or they're named in a more 'for themselves' style (e.g. Paladin) - and I'm totally OK with those methodologies.

I know :-)

But imagine the conversation:
Defeated enemy 1:"what the hell just happened?"
Defeated enemy 2:"a Harriet just blew in".

[blues]

I know :-)

But imagine the conversation:
Defeated enemy 1:"what the hell just happened?"
Defeated enemy 2:"a Harriet just blew in".

"That was one hell of a tub, man!"

[Wondering Beard]

Navel Naval Gazing...

https://cdn.dvidshub.net/media/thumbs/photos/1908/5699488/1000w_q95.jpg

I spy with my little appropriately naval eye ...

[RevolverRob]

America has too many forgotten warfighting heroes to name our warships after anyone less. Dorie Miller is a perfect example - spent virtually his entirely too-short adult life in wartime military service and died all of 24 years old with a Navy Cross. I've met people that hadn't even moved out of their parents house at that age.

Naming warships after politicians? To hell with that.

I'll give a nod to the UK here, though, as they know how to name a warship for its own sake.

This is one of the reasons why I love you man (some homo, don't make it weird. :p).

We have a list of individuals who have won the: Medal of Honor, Navy Cross, Distinguished Service Cross, Air Force Cross, and Coast Guard Cross. When we've used up those names on vessels, planes, tanks, military bases, and government buildings - then we can start with Silver Star, Legion of Merit, and Defense Superior Service holders...

In my opinion only once we've exhausted the list of Purple Heart recipients should we start naming shit after politicians*.

*Politicians who are on the list of award recipients can be honored when their award comes up.

[JRB]

I know :-)

But imagine the conversation:
Defeated enemy 1:"what the hell just happened?"
Defeated enemy 2:"a Harriet just blew in".


"That was one hell of a tub, man!"

I must confess, having a badass MBT called a Tubman so we could say those guys 'got tubbed' or 'got tubbed the fuck up' has some appeal :)

Then again Zincwarrior had that great idea of an Iowa class battleship named stuff like 'Queen Anne's Revenge'. Which opens the door to 'oh yeah, the Annie went and blew the shit out of them'.


This is one of the reasons why I love you man (some homo, don't make it weird. :p).

We have a list of individuals who have won the: Medal of Honor, Navy Cross, Distinguished Service Cross, Air Force Cross, and Coast Guard Cross. When we've used up those names on vessels, planes, tanks, military bases, and government buildings - then we can start with Silver Star, Legion of Merit, and Defense Superior Service holders...

In my opinion only once we've exhausted the list of Purple Heart recipients should we start naming shit after politicians*.

*Politicians who are on the list of award recipients can be honored when their award comes up.

Where's a brofist emoji when I need one? But yes, I am 100% down with that plan. Hell, there's a couple of CA National Guard helo crews with gigantic clanging brass ones that just received Distinguished Flying Crosses for saving 200 some Americans from CA wildfires when CA fire themselves said it was a suicide mission. Flying at low altitude in a helo through a fire is a Foreign-Object-Damage hell and borderlines on straight up insanity to attempt. When are we going to see some schools named after them? Likely never - so why not a helo carrier?

[RevolverRob]

Where's a brofist emoji when I need one? But yes, I am 100% down with that plan. Hell, there's a couple of CA National Guard helo crews with gigantic clanging brass ones that just received Distinguished Flying Crosses for saving 200 some Americans from CA wildfires when CA fire themselves said it was a suicide mission. Flying at low altitude in a helo through a fire is a Foreign-Object-Damage hell and borderlines on straight up insanity to attempt. When are we going to see some schools named after them? Likely never - so why not a helo carrier?

8000% in agreement.

I'm not gonna lie, between thinking about going out and getting my pilot's license lately in general, and then CA Nat Guard dudes I am suddenly thinking, "Dude, flying firefighting would be a legit 2nd career choice. Dangerous, challenging, and definitely in-demand..."

[Caballoflaco]

I'll give a nod to the UK here, though, as they know how to name a warship for its own sake.


One of the greatest trolls in naval history is the case of the USS/HMS President.

From wiki:


The British took President briefly into the Royal Navy as the 50-gun (later 60-gun) fourth-rate HMS President but broke up the dilapidated ship in 1818. They later built a 60-gun frigate which they also named President to the exact lines of the captured ship in 1829, despite some elements of the design (countered stern) being obsolete. This ship was used as a political statement as it was commanded by George Cockburn (who led the Burning of Washington) and made flagship of the North American station to remind the United States of its greatest losses during the War of 1812.

You can’t really get mad at them because it was such a brilliant idea that you would have done it first if you had the opportunity.

[awp_101]

One of the greatest trolls in naval history is the case of the USS/HMS President.

From wiki:



You can’t really get mad at them because it was such a brilliant idea that you would have done it first if you had the opportunity.

I can see it now, a logistics type ship named the USS Boston Tea Party...

[awp_101]

One of the sites I visit regularly has a random WWII related picture on each page. This one came up recently and reminded me of this thread

63785

Doris Miller receiving the Navy Cross award from Admiral Chester Nimitz, onboard USS Enterprise, Pearl Harbor, US Territory of Hawaii, 27 May 1942

[SeriousStudent]

I would be extremely proud to serve aboard the Dorie Miller.