KSTG at the NRA 3-July-12

[ToddG]

KSTG (http://pistol-forum.com/kstg) match
Tuesday 3-July-2012
$25
Estimated Round Count: 50-60
Squads begin at 6pm, 7pm, 8pm, 9pm, and 10pm. Six people maximum per squad.

Signups begin on Monday 18-June at 9am. You can call the NRA Range @ 703-267-1402 to reserve a slot at that time. Calling before Monday 18-June will not get you a slot and will likely just annoy the folks who let us run our matches.

[cclaxton]

I will be missing this one. Planning on bike ride on Ghosttown trail in Western PA.
Sorry I will miss it....
Cody

[bdcheung]

All,

I won't be able to make the match and, subsequently, my 2000 slot is available.

[JackBlundell]

That was a fun match! Thanks to the KSTG club for presenting a challenging match this evening. See you all next month!

[abu fitna]

Thanks for a good match all. As always, well worth the time and the learning opportunity, especially to test different gear and oneself under scenario conditions. There are always the things you kick yourself for, but this is how we learn.

[MDS]

Good times had by all. Thanks to Todd et al for organizing, Vinh for handicapping himself with a 1911, and that ragtag bunch of patriots for whooping some Redcoat ass a couple hundred years ago.

[ToddG]

Results:


TrophyClassTotalPoints Down High Overall 1. Todd GreenMaster53.623 1st A 2. Joe ConnersA58.292 1st B 3. Josh SavaniB61.2810 High Major 4. Vinh TranA62.355 2nd B 5. James VentreB64.809 6. Jarrett SchulzB65.024 7. Jack BlundellU65.099 1st DA 8. Ketan ChandU74.740 9. Jason StephensonU75.348 2nd DA10. Evan CoarU77.1315 11. Matt O’MaraU79.628 1st C12. Chris GoodrichC81.405 13. Tom FarleighU82.572 14. Caleb FitzgeraldB82.8110 1st D15. Rick ChapmanD84.918 16. Andrew MillsB84.953 17. Mario SantanaU85.942 18. William DavisU86.2926 19. Toshi EtoU88.770 20. Malcolm RogersU94.918 21. Eric BrownU98.166 22. Andrew DaltonU99.7823 23. Tom LindermanU100.026 2nd D24. Joshua WorkD101.3312 25. Arvid RoachC103.233 26. Michael HarnageB107.3919 27. Steve GonsalvesD115.1913 28. John GallagherC117.0719 29. Bonlyn Hawley (#2)D122.7411 30. Matthew MurphyU136.049 1st Revolver31. Khang LeD141.654 32. Matt MartinD142.6211 33. Bonlyn Hawley (#1)D143.4612 34. Alex HarnageU152.8911 35. Doug HawleyD153.849 36. John ArmstrongU164.6122 37. William DunnU179.7937 38. Debbie CrewsU259.5372 39. TJ ParmeleD353.6242

Full results (Apple Numbers) (http://pistol-forum.com/kstg/120703/KSTG-120703-results.numbers)
Full results (MS Excel) (http://pistol-forum.com/kstg/120703/KSTG-120703-results.xls)

Special congratulations to Ketan Chand and Toshi Eto for shooting the entire match without a single point down!

[Tinygnat219]

Todd,

Thanks again for the match! That was a lot of fun and a definite learning experience! Must use 6 shot revolver next time. Must practice reloads...

TJ

[AznDragon533]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAJ-5RnsUZE&feature=youtu.be
Todd,

Thanks again for the match! That was a lot of fun and a definite learning experience! Must use 6 shot revolver next time. Must practice reloads...

TJ


Found a Video of last night

[baronfitz]

Oh procedurals! Gotta not do those again. If I hadn't penetrated cover for two shots, I'd be ten seconds faster.

Thanks for running the match, and for posting the results so early, though I think most of us could have waited until daybreak. :p

[JV_]

I think most of us could have waited until daybreak. :p Most... :p

[MDS]

Oh procedurals! Gotta not do those again. If I hadn't penetrated cover for two shots, I'd be ten seconds faster.


Tell me about it. About 30% of my time was procedurals. :eek:

[ToddG]

Not for nothin' but one of the things I'm most proud about when it comes to KSTG is that the folks who come to the matches regularly have really started to understand the idea of not over-penetrating/crowding cover. In the coming months we're going to get less generous with how far people can lean out from over, as well.

[ChrisG]

Thanks to Todd and all the ROs and staff for another great match. I particularly liked the stage design with the final "super stage" that used the whole width of the range and the targetry from the previous stages.

[ToddG]

Thanks to Todd and all the ROs and staff for another great match. I particularly liked the stage design with the final "super stage" that used the whole width of the range and the targetry from the previous stages.

That was an idea JV had a while back. It certainly made the match easier to set up and tear down while keeping the number of stages and the round count reasonable. I know I liked it.

We'd love to hear feedback on this issue from other folks who were there. Is that kind of "field course" something you'd like to see more of?

[JConn]

Yes! That was a lot of fun. It also opens up a lot of opportunities for stage planning and risk assessment.

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[JSGlock34]

First, thanks to the guys for setting up another fun match.

I enjoyed the 'superstage' finale. It opened up more opportunity for movement (and obviously a greater number of targets) than a standard stage. It also forced some decision making (e.g. do I engage these targets on the move or fire from the starting position?).

I also liked the 'don't shoot this color' stage - one of those 'engage brain then shoot' exercises. Reminded me of a stage at an IDPA match also at the NRA Range a few years ago which took place around a poker table. The suit of the card you drew determined the 'no-shoot' targets.

[MDS]

Not for nothin' but one of the things I'm most proud about when it comes to KSTG is that the folks who come to the matches regularly have really started to understand the idea of not over-penetrating/crowding cover. In the coming months we're going to get less generous with how far people can lean out from over, as well.

First, no G34s. Now, all this tactical stuff. I thought this was supposed to be a game? Why don't we just call it Kan't Satisfy Todd Green? ;)


That was an idea JV had a while back. It certainly made the match easier to set up and tear down while keeping the number of stages and the round count reasonable. I know I liked it.

We'd love to hear feedback on this issue from other folks who were there. Is that kind of "field course" something you'd like to see more of?

Genius. It's obvious you guys put a lot of thought (and maybe even have some fun) in designing the stages. I loved the field course and would love to see more of that!

[Dropkick]

The final stage was pretty cool, I liked the tea party one too.

[daltona117]

Thanks for running the match! Was my first time participating but will be signing up for the next event!

[baronfitz]

I also really liked the last stage, as well as the card draw stage that made you engage the brain a bit first. I saw a drill in a recent SWAT magazine article that involves the shooter reading aloud until the buzzer goes, then looking up and engaging. There's more to the drill, and it would have to be adapted, but might be something interesting to do.

[kle]

I certainly had fun with the stages; all but the first had some really interesting elements in them (gotta work on my swordsmanship, and during the 'card' stage I had to check the card again to see which color NOT to shoot).

I can say that having 20% more gun, as well as having a gun that reloads better from a speedloader certainly helped a LOT. Also, it was nice to have someone to compete against in my division, for once =)

Thanks to the crew; see y'all next time!

[Tinygnat219]

Todd, et all Range Officers and Timekeepers:

We REALLY appreciate the time and effort put into these games. Each time I come out, I've learned a bit more about what to carry and what not to. Let's just say that I'm starting with a J-Frame revolver as a "do not carry" as a main gun. At least not without some special training and finding out which speedloaders will actually work or not.

TJ

[MDS]

Do we have a date for the next match?

[ToddG]

Do we have a date for the next match?

25-Sep is the next scheduled. We're trying to work with the NRA to get a date at the end of August as well.

[Dropkick]

What's the July 31st event then?

[ToddG]

What's the July 31st event then?

It's going to be an (unofficial) IPSC match.

[owlchemist]

It's going to be an (unofficial) IPSC match.

Does unofficial mean youre banning all those cheater 34s? :rolleyes: haha

[JV_]

youre banning all those cheater 34s?You've assumed that the match is being setup and/or run by Todd; AFAIK, it's being run by some of the NRA range staff.

[ToddG]

I won't even be in town. It will be run by uspsa rules to the best of my knowledge. But they're not an official club.