Lipseys Glock P80

[HCM]

https://soldiersystems.net/2020/09/01/lipseys-goes-back-to-where-it-all-began-with-retro-p80-9mm-exclusive/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=lipseys-goes-back-to-where-it-all-began-with-retro-p80-9mm-exclusive


Lipsey’s Goes Back To Where It All Began With Retro P80 9mm Exclusive
Baton Rouge, La.—Lipsey’s, the nation’s premier firearms distributor, has unveiled the new Lipsey’s Exclusive GLOCK P80. A historical reproduction of the original, innovative GLOCK pistol adopted by the Austrian Army in 1982.


In 1981, Gaston Glock assembled a team of engineers and designed his first firearm. The result was submitted to the Austrian Army pistol trials and won the contract in 1982. The Army then designated the first GLOCK as the Pistole 80. These guns were later known commercially as “G17s” and were only available in the US market for two years until the “Gen2” model was introduced in 1988. P80 marked GLOCKs were never imported into the United States.



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https://www.lipseys.com/crm/glockp80

[HeavyDuty]

Complete with Tupperware... I love it.

[Caballoflaco]

Now it just needs some front serrations, and some lightning cuts and a red dot cut, maybe a magwell....:)

[Poconnor]

If they are $279 bucks like the first Glock I saw in the 80s I will buy one

[Jim Watson]

Neat. The one I had was a very good gun, I would swap my present Gen 4 for it back in a heartbeat.

I wonder just how Gen 1 this gun really is under the old pebbled butt.

The Glock Collectors Association says
"The GLOCK P80 is true to the original but with some modern updates."
but does not give details of those updates. I hope nothing more than the original 6 part recall.

https://glockcollectorsassociation.org/blogs/news/new-glock-p80-pistol?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_6_7_2019_14_6_COPY_01)&goal=0_7a105fc205-f382570e98-40673847&mc_cid=f382570e98&mc_eid=501b36c7ea

GCA says
The P80 is the model name given to the GLOCK 17 by the Austrian Military. The P80 or Pistole 80 is the first pistol GLOCK ever delivered to a military organization. The reintroduced GLOCK P80 is the same as a GLOCK model 17 Gen 1 pistol except for the rollmark indicating "P80" on the left side of the slide and internal upgrades. In my opinion, the GLOCK P80 is GLOCK in its purest from. It was the pistol that introduced us to GLOCK.
For those who want to know the differences between the new P80 and an original Model 17 Gen 1 here are the details:
The P80’s have polygonal rifling.
The trigger mechanism is the same as the Gen 3 which is basically the same as the Gen 1.
It will work with any generation of magazines. It comes with Gen 3 mags
Sights are the same as a Gen 3 pistol. All generations of sights are basically the same.
The new P80's do not have the 13.5mm “pencil barrel” like the very first P80’s. Late manufactured P80’s, around 1986 and later, had the thicker 14mm barrel.
GLOCK made a new extractor that is flat like the originals for the new P80’s.
GLOCK made a new mold that duplicates the original Gen 1 mold. The original had been re-purposed in the early 90’s.
The "Tupperware" box is a Gen3 style box.

Brochure shown at
http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/3910080474

[ST911]

Complete with Tupperware... I love it.

But not the original suicide box.

[RAM Engineer]

One of my longtime wants is one of the original Gen1 G19s. This would be a great opportunity for them (me). ;)

[Totem Polar]

I sorta want this...

[Nephrology]

I sorta want this...

Yeah me too.

[Sammy1]

Take my $!

[Guerrero]

This is blatantly false advertising. Everyone knows that the first Glock was the Glock 7, a porcelain gun made in Germany. It doesn't show up on airport X-ray machines and it costs more than what you make in a month.

[BigT]

This is blatantly false advertising. Everyone knows that the first Glock was the Glock 7, a porcelain gun made in Germany. It doesn't show up on airport X-ray machines and it costs more than what you make in a month.

You'd be surprised what I make in a month...

[JonInWA]

This is...kinda neat. Hey, if a reproduction of a WW1 Colt can reach near veneration status, and at least 3 production runs, and if there's a cottage industry in reproducing the 1960s AR15, and a Turkish company making Hi Power clones, why not a Gen 1 Glock Repro made by Glock?

It really reminds me of the Colt Series 70 Reproductions, which was a very savvy combination of reporduction and modern practical adds (dimpled barrel, titanium firing pin, upgraded {i.e., visible to mortal man} sights, deletion of the collet bushing, accurization via CNC production).

What, so it doesn't have the pre-6 component upgrade in black, and can't accidentaly go full auto-and the fanbois are up in arms about that?? Jeez.

I certainly don't need one (my current Gen 3 G17 is, and has been, and shows every sign of merrily continuing to perk along), but getting one of these "Upgraded Homage P80s" is immensely tempting.

My Glock desire short list now includes a G45, this "P80" G17, and a Gen5 G22 (which'll be even more tempting if it comes in a MOS version...) Sigh.

I can't wait to see Tam write a review. Seriously. A hipster Glock G17-who'd a' thunk it?

Best, Jon

[El Cid]

But not the original suicide box.

AKA the Darwin Box. AKA the Natural Selection box. Lol!

[JonInWA]

AKA self-draining, atmospherically pressure equalizing box...

Best, Jon

[lwt16]

You'd be surprised what I make in a month...

You'd be appalled at what I make a month.

Sort of just want the Tupperware boxes. I kind of miss those.

Regards.

[HCM]

You'd be appalled at what I make a month.

Sort of just want the Tupperware boxes. I kind of miss those.

Regards.

ebay

https://www.ebay.com/b/GLOCK-Gun-Original-Factory-Boxes-Cases/73938/bn_5794724

[Flamingo]

On the TFB video the Lipsey rep said the cost would be $30-50 bucks more than a regular Glock 17.

[KevH]

I want one.

We have an original Gen1 in the safe at work. To me it is the most ergonomically perfect Glock. Some bitch about them being slippery, but I've never found it so...even while sweating quite a bit.

Hopefully they make enough of these to satisfy demand.

[Doc_Glock]

My LGS was able to score one but I think it is the ten round version...Hmmm decisions to be made. MSRP $689.

[Nephrology]

My LGS was able to score one but I think it is the ten round version...Hmmm decisions to be made. MSRP $689.

Meeeeeh.


....maybe :cool:

[Lester Polfus]

This is like Toyota reissuing the 1982 Camry.

[ST911]

This is like Toyota reissuing the 1982 Camry.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

[Screwball]

I might get one... when they turn up on Gunbroker like all the 19X after everyone and their mother bought one.

I do like reproductions like that. Kind of wanted those original 1911s that Colt did (not the A1, the ones that were also WWI commemoratives).

[Lester Polfus]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Bad? not really.

I love Glocks. I look at them the same way I look at a Camry: boring, dependable, fungible and reliable so I can worry about other things in life.

[Wonder9]

The 43X/48 MOS Rail and retro P80 are more exciting than the LEGENDARY G44 beta test announcement.

[ST911]

Bad? not really.

I love Glocks. I look at them the same way I look at a Camry: boring, dependable, fungible and reliable so I can worry about other things in life.

Sorry if my tone missed, I was making a funny and forgot the smiley.

[Doc_Glock]

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My bad $669

[ViniVidivici]

Crap. I thought this was about a new kind of Polymer 80% frame. I am dissapoint.

And I say that as a Glock guy.....heresy, I know.....

[YVK]

About a month ago GJM sent me a video from USPSA Nationals from some 30+ years ago. I commented that I wanted to get throwback USPSA clothes of those times.
This is a gun to go with those throwbacks.

[Kyle Reese]

Always wanted one.


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[JonInWA]

It's a bit like a 1964 Mustang that's been rebuilt with some modern replacement components...(or a Camry....)

Best, Jon

[Lester Polfus]

Sorry if my tone missed, I was making a funny and forgot the smiley.

Oh no worries dude. I think I came off sounding a little tone-ier than I meant.

[MSparks909]

How convenient, my favorite local FFL is a Lipsey’s dealer...ordering one :cool:

[Wonder9]

After watching a couple live five videos, there was classic weak ejection patterns. Hard pass for me knowing a Gen5 FS Glock will throw brass like an H&K G3 110% of the time.

[ST911]

This might be useful for more than nostalgia. The original gen1 pebble grip is a cleaner canvas for those who will stipple or texture their guns, no finger grooves to remove or checkering to work with or around. Some actively seek out the old frames for this purpose.

After frame externals, it sounds like the internals incorporate reinforcements seen later. Non-LCI extractor, and looks like the current 15 degree radius to the ejection port. Should be a standard gen2-4 barrel, but it'd be neat if they used the GMB.

[LockedBreech]

Glock has really great business sense sometimes. You know you've succeeded when you can release a limited-edition version of your first product that strips out most the design progress and updates, charge $30-50 MORE than your current flagship pistol, and be positively certain that it will sell out overnight.

That is the logic side of my brain.

The cool side of my brain wants one bad.

[DocGKR]

No light rail....kind of like a big G26.

There are reasons why folks cut down G19's to G26 size....

[RAM Engineer]

Guys, this is a collectors gun. If you’re the type that got excited over Brownells making replica 601s, then this might be for you. If you debate the virtues of Gen5 vs HK Vp9, this probably isn’t for you...

[BigT]

Guys, this is a collectors gun. If you’re the type that got excited over Brownells making replica 601s, then this might be for you. If you debate the virtues of Gen5 vs HK Vp9, this probably isn’t for you...


This

[farscott]

As someone who has a lot of custom 1911-pattern pistols and a Colt WWI 1911 (not 1911A1) reproduction, this Glock P80 appeals to me. The logical part of me knows I can find a G17.3 in great condition for less, but function is not what that pistol addresses. It takes me back to the middle-1980s when this weirdly-named polymer-framed indestructible pistol was introduced. Something that hits the nostalgia button is worth a small premium.

[RAM Engineer]

As someone who has a lot of custom 1911-pattern pistols and a Colt WWI 1911 (not 1911A1) reproduction, this Glock P80 appeals to me. The logical part of me knows I can find a G17.3 in great condition for less, but function is not what that pistol addresses. It takes me back to the middle-1980s when this weirdly-named polymer-framed indestructible pistol was introduced. Something that hits the nostalgia button is worth a small premium.

Yep. Same reason some of us go for an MP5 (or clone) vs something newer and/or more economical like the MPX and Scorpion.

[NPV]

I am not a Glock shooter at all and would have no practical use for this in CT.........

But god damn do I want it.

[Texaspoff]

I should have my first one in hand this afternoon. :)


TXPO

[Kram]

I should have my first one in hand this afternoon. :)


TXPO

Let us know what you think. They are arriving at my local dealer next week and am tempted to grab one.

[JSGlock34]

This might be useful for more than nostalgia. The original gen1 pebble grip is a cleaner canvas for those who will stipple or texture their guns, no finger grooves to remove or checkering to work with or around. Some actively seek out the old frames for this purpose.
I attended a Larry Vickers course at Blackwater nearly ten years ago, and he was carrying a customized GEN1 Glock 17. He lent it to my buddy for a few hours in the afternoon, and I snapped a few pics. I remember it had a great stipple job and terrific trigger.
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[pangloss]

I'll probably buy one. I have Gen 2-5 pistols. I know this is really a Gen 2.5 in Gen1 clothing, but I'm not going to let the details ruin it for me. I'll also keep an eye on Gunbroker to see if the prices on the real Gen1 pistols' prices drop back to where they were a decade or so ago.

[Lost River]

The Gen 1s are pretty cool.

This one lived its life in a saddle bag on a ranch in northern Nevada before I rescued it. It literally as far as I know had never been field stripped to be cleaned.

https://i.imgur.com/i96SS6N.jpg


That said I really like the Gen2s. Adding the checkering to the grip made a good bit of difference. In fact I carry my 17.2 daily with an optic.

https://i.imgur.com/UOYQtwQ.jpg


Sidebar:

I have been using it to test some warm hard cast 147 flat point I have been working with.

https://i.imgur.com/prJjbJD.jpg

There was a guide in AK who put down a grizzly with the same bullet (Rim Rock 147 outdoorsman). The price was a bit much so I decided to roll my own, and after a series of trips back and forth from the range finally arrived at the desired velocity.

https://i.imgur.com/YeqtqqV.jpg

The Gs 17.2, 19.3, 34.3 and CZ-75 chew through them like a fat kid eating cake!

I found some auto glass and they punch through that and the pallet behind it too. :cool:

Should be good stuff for dealing with rioting bears in Portland.

[MSparks909]

Just put one on layaway at Buds :cool:

[Navyguns]

No light rail....kind of like a big G26.

There are reasons why folks cut down G19's to G26 size....


There is a word for those people. 😁 In an industry incessant about utility we have plenty of room for a little vanity.

[Lester Polfus]

The Gen 1s are pretty cool.

This one lived its life in a saddle bag on a ranch in northern Nevada before I rescued it. It literally as far as I know had never been field stripped to be cleaned.

https://i.imgur.com/i96SS6N.jpg


That said I really like the Gen2s. Adding the checkering to the grip made a good bit of difference. In fact I carry my 17.2 daily with an optic.

https://i.imgur.com/UOYQtwQ.jpg


Sidebar:

I have been using it to test some warm hard cast 147 flat point I have been working with.

https://i.imgur.com/prJjbJD.jpg

There was a guide in AK who put down a grizzly with the same bullet (Rim Rock 147 outdoorsman). The price was a bit much so I decided to roll my own, and after a series of trips back and forth from the range finally arrived at the desired velocity.

https://i.imgur.com/YeqtqqV.jpg

The Gs 17.2, 19.3, 34.3 and CZ-75 chew through them like a fat kid eating cake!

I found some auto glass and they punch through that and the pallet behind it too. :cool:

Should be good stuff for dealing with rioting bears in Portland.



Hey Bud,

Would you mind sharing your load data? I have exactly that same project coming up on my list of things to do.

I'm a big boy, so if I blow my fingers off it's my fault.

[JRB]

....That said I really like the Gen2s. Adding the checkering to the grip made a good bit of difference. In fact I carry my 17.2 daily with an optic.....

Do my eyes deceive me, or is that a Brownells G3 RMR ready slide on a G2 frame? I remember researching that and finding a lot of folks saying a G3 slide on G2 frame doesn't work.
If that's false after all, I know what's happening with my G19.2 in short order!

[Doc_Glock]

Well, had a chance to buy one today. Passed on it. Gen 5 is the hotness and I can’t find a reason to pay more and go backwards.

[GJM]

Well, had a chance to buy one today. Passed on it. Gen 5 is the hotness and I can’t find a reason to pay more and go backwards.

Maybe they need to package it with some Silvertips and a Chia Pet.

[the Schwartz]

Well, had a chance to buy one today. Passed on it. Gen 5 is the hotness and I can’t find a reason to pay more and go backwards.

Doc--

Was there a particular reason, or two, that you passed on it? How did fit and finish look on it? Was the quality there? Or did it just simply not appeal to you?

[Doc_Glock]

Doc--

Was there a particular reason, or two, that you passed on it? How did fit and finish look on it? Was the quality there? Or did it just simply not appeal to you?

I didn’t actually handle it. Just got first dibs at the LGS by email and passed. I realized I am more of a gun abuser than gun collector, and this doesn’t really have a role for me.

[the Schwartz]

I should have my first one in hand this afternoon. :)


TXPO

That's what she said!

🤣😂

[Lost River]

Do my eyes deceive me, or is that a Brownells G3 RMR ready slide on a G2 frame? I remember researching that and finding a lot of folks saying a G3 slide on G2 frame doesn't work.
If that's false after all, I know what's happening with my G19.2 in short order!


That's exactly what it is.

G2 with a Brownells slide and RMR. Perfect for older eyes.

[HCM]

Maybe they need to package it with some Silvertips and a Chia Pet.

How about some 9mm Nyclad, acid wash denim for you and leg warmers for the Mrs ?

[Lost River]

Hey Bud,

Would you mind sharing your load data? I have exactly that same project coming up on my list of things to do.

I'm a big boy, so if I blow my fingers off it's my fault.

Message inbound.

[Hambo]

Maybe they need to package it with some Silvertips and Die Hard 2 on VHS.

FIFY ;)

[farscott]

If you have a Rural King in your area, the P80 is available for $560. That is not much more than I paid for my G17.1 back in 1989.

[JonInWA]

This thread implicitly raises an interesting question, "Just how much quantifiable improvements have been achieved from generation to generation of Glocks, and how many are simply representative of market re-positioning attempts?"

I get that Gen5 really does seem to be an accuracy improvement what with their "Glock Marksman" barrels, with their hybrid polygonal/lands and groove rifling, and the nDLC finish is an improvement over the Gen4 (and non-Tenifer later {and current} production Gen 3) finishes.

However, I'm quite pleased with the accuracy of my current Gen 3 Glocks (G17, G19, G21) and Gen4 G22 (a mid-production 2015 example); basically, my feeling is that the guns' inherent mechanical accuracy exceeds my JonInWA capabilities (low as that bar might be...).

I get that the nDLC is a decent finish, equal to the previous Tenifer, but apparently much more environmentally friendly and safe. While it's clearly better than the Gen4 non-Tenifer/phosphate (I assume) overfinish, I'm not convinced it's superior to the earlier Gen 3 finish.

And while I like the moderate ergonomc flexibilities provided by the Multiple Backstrap System options and more elongated magazine catch lever, they're really not all that essential, at least to/for me.

So-Will an contemporary Lipsey's comissioned Glock P80 be a perfectly viable carry Glock? My suspiscion is "Yes, absolutely." Hey, it looks to be a product improved Gen 1 homage, essentially based on the Gen 3, with (I assume) the current nDLC finish. And while I personally would probably switch out the poylmer sights at least for Glock steels, it sounds like the OEM polymer front is the more contemporary sturdier screw-in installation.

I'll freely admit that one of these P80s is very tempting (as is a G45....). But more and more, I'm suspecting it's the Indian, not so much the arrow, assuming some basic inherent qualities with the arrow. And in the case of 9mm Glocks (particularly with a G17 and G19), I'm just not all that convinced that aside from some necessary technical and safety improvements Glock (however grudgingly at times...) provided, I'm unsure if there's a huge quantifiable advantage to be derived from moving from a early-to-mid-production Gen 3 to a Gen5.

The Gen4 G22 I get, particularly as improved in its production cycle-the configured and tuned nested spring RSA was really necessary for .40 performance and platform longevity-but I have even higher hopes for the Gen5 G22, which shows all signs of wedding the heavier GAP slide to the platform-and presumably with the other Gen5 frame/component upgrades.

In 9mm, however, my question remains-does one really need to move from a Gen 3 to a Gen 5? I suspect that these retro P80s will provide some interesting answers and twists to these questions. Regardless, I'm glad Glock and Lipsey's are producing them.

Best, Jon

[Totem Polar]

The debate isn’t over until JodyH films a P80’s heat dispersion with one of those cameras.

[pangloss]

In 9mm, however, my question remains-does one really need to move from a Gen 3 to a Gen 5? I suspect that these retro P80s will provide some interesting answers and twists to these questions. Regardless, I'm glad Glock and Lipsey's are producing them.

Best, Jon

I much prefer Gen5--so much that I sold my 19.4s and replaced them with 19.5s. However I still carry my 26.3 frequently, so I guess the answer to your question is probably "no." However, why settle for "good" when you can have "fantastic"?

[Kyle Reese]

Punks stealing luggage.


https://youtu.be/OLBvvrC1IqY


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[ECVMatt]

While not as cool as a P80, here is my Gen 2 P90...meaning that it was built in 1990. I have shot many 1000's of rounds through this gun including a long run of Egyptian 9mm that came in these horrible 36 round toilet paper boxes. The gun store where I was working at the time bought 1,000,000 rounds of it and I did my best to shoot it all. The original magazines still function and I still have my old "black" internals. It was rebuilt in 1995 by a friend who worked for US Customs. He was the first "Glock Armorer" that had access to OEM Glock parts at the time. I do have an old Aero Precision extended slide release. Being a lefty, that helped quite a bit.

As far as it not being as effective as a newer generation, I am not so sure. I love the Gen 5 and do feel it is an improvement, but I would still be ready to roll with my Gen 2 at a moments notice.

I will most likely pick up a P80 because I am a Glock fanboy and eagerly await the Gen 1 19 which I bet will be next up if this is a good seller.

[Gater]

Side by side with a Gen 1:


http://youtu.be/lByA_uVHvdc

[Totem Polar]

So, I had to make a rush trip to the UPS hub today, and, wouldn’t you know that my favorite friendly LGS is on the way back (sort of, if you consider a big loop “on the way...”)

At any rate, I asked about the P80, and all the ones they had were sold, but I got to check one out.

I’m on the wait list.

It’s just a cool, svelte, bit of retro kit. I like it. Very gen3 trigger feel.

[HCountyGuy]

LGS got in 4 of them, one is left. It's nifty and all that, but for the asking price more than what I can buy a new MOS model for, eeeeeh. I get it, collector's gun of sorts, but still.

[Amp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wu48vBmqrY

[SW CQB 45]

this dude floats around at my work.

It had original parts and it was somewhat of a loaner issue till we all transitioned to 9mm. So it changed hands a couple of times and no one liked that it did not have a rail.

When I inspected it (about a year later)..... someone gutted the original trigger bar and replaced it with junky Gen4 trigger bar.

I put a Gen3 trigger bar back in it but a little miffed someone would do that. bastards

not the best pic
https://i.imgur.com/mdiVHXj.jpg

A retired officer has a Gen 1 G17 with the black parts and the trigger press is absolutely horrible. He likes it though.

[pangloss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wu48vBmqrY

I would like one of the pistols. I really would. However, this video is making me rethink the issue. I lost count of how many empty brass hit LAV's right arm. A couple ejected straight back and fell between his outstretched arms. One brass (at 4:13) landed on the bill of cap. I already have a Gen2 G17 (my first Glock, which I bought new) with erratic ejection that I rarely shoot now. The P80 really appeals to the "collect them all" mentality I have regarding G17s, but I just want it to function as well as later pistol. If this gun would eject like a Gen5, it'd be a non-decision for me. I hope they make enough of these that Apex will manufacture an extractor for them.

[Fröman]

I bought my first Glock at Southwest Shooters in OKC in 1989($289.99) and proceeded to shoot up 26 cases of surplus UZI +P+ ball through it that I had picked up super cheap because everyone thought it would blow up a standard handgun.

Ejection was never a problem..

I traded it off when the first Glocks with light rails came out(mistake) but I don't know if I miss it enough to spend Gen 5 Glock 34 type money on a modern remake.

Wow, I've been using Glocks long enough for a historical remake of the my first Glock!
I feel old as sand now.

[DAVIDF]

I just picked up one today from their second production run. I think this may become my favorite pistol. For those of you worrying about ejection issues and brass hitting your forearm, face, or head, I have always replaced the ejector on my Gen 3s with a Gen 4 ejector. Haven't had any issues after that. I'll try this one stock and see how it does. On some of mine, I've swapped the ejector out even before testing. I would prefer this one to remain stock if it functions ok. The trigger seems exceptional. Better than all of my Glocks except my Gen 3 20s. Those are very nice triggers, but this one is a close second without even wearing in. My wife and I are going to try it tomorrow and compare it to one of our Gen 3 19s and Gen 3 20s.

[DAVIDF]

My wife and I tried it this morning. I really like it. The trigger is not as nice and light as the ones on our Gen 3 20s, but still quite nice. The only thing that I'll do to the trigger is file the little safety tab so it matches the curvature of the trigger. It was very easy to be accurate with it. We started at 15 yards and it is pretty easy to keep all hits touching slow fire. We moved back to 25 yards and almost the same. With a little work, I may be able to keep all hits touching slow fire. We finished at 40 yards and still easy to be pretty accurate. This will be primarily my main range toy, with some carry use mostly on range days and daytime only as I will be keeping the white outline sights or putting some steel Glock white outline sights on it.

[DAVIDF]

Forgot to mention the ejection pattern. Some of the brass came back directly at us or on top of my head. The vast majority was to the right at about 4 to 5 O'Clock. That was with my somewhat light hand loads, a 147 gr coated cast bullet with 3.5 gr of Alliant Sport Pistol. They are around 950 fps out of a Glock 19. I tried 5 rounds of 115 gr Gold Dot and the ejection was all to my right at 3 to 4 O'Clock, nothing coming back on me. We had no issues with it, so I will not be changing the ejector to a Gen 4 type. If I run into reliability issues later I will, but so far it is running good.

[M2CattleCo]

I can put up with some things but after the Gen4 19s I had, if one solitary case ejects and touches any part of my body, I will sell every Glock pistol I own and go unarmed for the rest of my life before I ever had another one.

I had PTSD inducing levels of Hell with those things.

[pangloss]

I still think that if Glock was not going to keep the 90 degree slide cut in these pistols, then they should have used Gen5 bits to make them eject correctly.

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[ECVMatt]

I bought my first Glock at Southwest Shooters in OKC in 1989($289.99) and proceeded to shoot up 26 cases of surplus UZI +P+ ball through it that I had picked up super cheap because everyone thought it would blow up a standard handgun.

Ejection was never a problem..

I traded it off when the first Glocks with light rails came out(mistake) but I don't know if I miss it enough to spend Gen 5 Glock 34 type money on a modern remake.

Wow, I've been using Glocks long enough for a historical remake of the my first Glock!
I feel old as sand now.

Oh the old UZI ammo. We never got a hold of the brown/reddish tip HV ammo but we did have a bit of the Carbine black tip. The general consensus was that Glock's were the only handgun strong enough, or perhaps cheap enough to damage, for that stuff. We thought we were pretty tricky keeping a spare magazine of "Black Tip" ammo for shooting through barricades or car doors. I do remember having several magazines of the Black Tip loaded up during the 1992 riots. I was going to school at USC at the time and my Cor-bon and Black Tips made me feel safe. Now I am feeling old as well.....