San Diego OIS Complete with K9

[farscott]

I did not see if this was discussed. This could have ended very poorly if the bad guy was intent on killing. It sure shows how something went from routine to "Uh, oh" in seconds. It also took some time for someone to take control and insure officers were not muzzling other officers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Vwss0LB6g

[blues]

A lot to unpack in this event.

[Torsius]

If only there was some indication they should be paying more attention to their prisoners: https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox5sandiego.com/news/sdpd-recaptures-escaped-domestic-violence-suspect/amp/

[TAZ]

That sucks. He managed to break into the trunk of the car from the back seat? I thought that area was sealed off. Maybe Ford should donate less $$ to BLM and spend that on better construction...

[TC215]

That sucks. He managed to break into the trunk of the car from the back seat? I thought that area was sealed off. Maybe Ford should donate less $$ to BLM and spend that on better construction...

There is a partition, but it wouldn’t be hard to defeat by someone not handcuffed.

Ford doesn’t supply the cages...they’re aftermarket.

[HCM]

That sucks. He managed to break into the trunk of the car from the back seat? I thought that area was sealed off. Maybe Ford should donate less $$ to BLM and spend that on better construction...

Funny you mention that ....


Ford employees ask company to stop making police cruisers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/transportation/automobiles/506622-ford-employees-ask-company-to-stop-making-police-cruisers%3famp

[Borderland]

There is a partition, but it wouldn’t be hard to defeat by someone not handcuffed.

Ford doesn’t supply the cages...they’re aftermarket.

Usually installed by the mechanics that service the vehicles. They also installed all of the communication equipment. At least they were for our sheriffs dept. Those guys were pros.

[TC215]

Usually installed by the mechanics that service the vehicles. They also installed all of the communication equipment. At least they were for our sheriffs dept. Those guys were pros.

Totally department dependent. My old department sourced outfitting of radio wiring, lights, cages, etc. to a company that specializes in that stuff. We had a radio shop at the city garage that would finish the radio installation and programming, and would also wire the lights/sirens in some of the UC cars.

[HCM]

Totally department dependent. My old department sourced outfitting of radio wiring, lights, cages, etc. to a company that specializes in that stuff. We had a radio shop at the city garage that would finish the radio installation and programming, and would also wire the lights/sirens in some of the UC cars.

To show how much of a mix this is, some federal agencies who have their own shops do this in house. Most use both a UNICOR (Federal Prison Industries) programs and contracting out to local shops that do it for local PD's.

[LittleLebowski]

Sounded and look like a GSD to me, thar dog sure went to work on that guy. Coyotesfan97

[Totem Polar]

I’m not even going to try and MMQB this one, except to say that it’s clear that the dude was tripping balls. I’m all in favor of cam footage getting out into wider circulation, so the “social worker” enthusiasts can see what sort of things go on behind the curtain. Let’s have an honest conversation about that; folks who are infinitely more qualified than me can discuss tactical minutia.

[Coyotesfan97]

Sounded and look like a GSD to me, thar dog sure went to work on that guy. Coyotesfan97

It’s hard for me to tell. That was a good bite by the dog. San Diego has always had good hard dogs.

[UNM1136]

It’s hard for me to tell. That was a good bite by the dog. San Diego has always had good hard dogs.

I talked to Michael Ellis after he consulted on SDPD's canine program in the 90s. They quickly went from 4 dogs to 50 because they were shooting so many people, and more dogs helped. Last I heard they actually had a breeding program. This info is quite old, though, and may have changed.

pat

[fixer]

Something psychological but I think I'd rather be shot then taken over by a large breed dog.

[Joe in PNG]

Funny you mention that ....


Ford employees ask company to stop making police cruisers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/transportation/automobiles/506622-ford-employees-ask-company-to-stop-making-police-cruisers%3famp

Ford's response (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/fords-ceo-defends-law-enforcement-use-of-police-interceptor-vehicle)


However, he believes it is "not controversial that the Ford Police Interceptor helps officers do their job."

"The issues plaguing police credibility have nothing to do with the vehicles they’re driving. In fact, as we imagine the future power of our connected vehicles, smarter Ford vehicles can be used to not only improve officers’ ability to protect and serve, but also provide data that can make police safer and more accountable," Hackett said. "Just think, dating back to the Model T, Ford has more than 100 years in serving first responders and that leadership over the decades has been earned by co-developing our purpose-built vehicles and technologies with police and emergency agencies to make our vehicles the number one choice."

Hackett argued that putting an end to law enforcement use of Police Interceptors would "be doing harm to [police officers'] safety and making it harder for them to do their job."

[Coyotesfan97]

I talked to Michael Ellis after he consulted on SDPD's canine program in the 90s. They quickly went from 4 dogs to 50 because they were shooting so many people, and more dogs helped. Last I heard they actually had a breeding program. This info is quite old, though, and may have changed.

patj

IIRC they had enough K9 teams to assign one to each patrol squad. I’m pretty sure SDPD buys their dogs from Adlerhorst.

[UNM1136]

j

IIRC they had enough K9 teams to assign one to each patrol squad. I’m pretty sure SDPD buys their dogs from Adlerhorst.

I think you are right. A(lbuquerque)PD also likes Adlerhorst...for dual pupose dogs. Detector dogs go through a local vendor...

pat

[Coyotesfan97]

I think you are right. A(lbuquerque)PD also likes Adlerhorst...for dual pupose dogs. Detector dogs go through a local vendor...

pat

We’ve bought dogs from the Reaver’s for 30 years. They get a lot of KNPV dogs. They know the kind of dog we like so they’ll look for us on buying trips when they go to Europe. This is a bad year for buying dogs due to COVID