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Kyle Reese
06-01-2012, 10:29 AM
Venezuela bans private gun ownership (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18288430)

They can say what they like about reducing crime- this is to disarm any political opponents of Comandante Hugo that remain.

_JD_
06-01-2012, 10:56 AM
Venezuela bans private gun ownership (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18288430)

They can say what they like about reducing crime- this is to disarm any political opponents of Comandante Hugo that remain.

They don't try to do much to hide the truth:


Hugo Chavez's government says the ultimate aim is to disarm all civilians, but his opponents say the police and government may not have the capacity or the will to enforce the new law.



We all know how this will turn out.

What an imbecile.

DocGKR
06-01-2012, 11:13 AM
Seems like every Totalitarian government wants to disarm their civilian population...Nazi, Stalinist, Maoist, etc...

helothar
06-01-2012, 12:59 PM
Although imo Chavez has done some good things for Venezuela, this is something that I can't get behind.

For further discussion, what do folks think would be a good way to reduce violent crime in a country like Venezuela?

TGS
06-01-2012, 01:16 PM
Although imo Chavez has done some good things for Venezuela, this is something that I can't get behind.

For further discussion, what do folks think would be a good way to reduce violent crime in a country like Venezuela?

The violent crime is a byproduct of Hugo Chavez's leadership.....so, probably getting rid of Hugo Chavez would be a good idea. I mean, hey, the violent crime rate doubled over his time in office, so it's not like he has anything to do with it. I can't blame people for violent crime when they're starving as Chavez lets 120 tons of food rot at a government controlled facility...

BaiHu
06-01-2012, 01:25 PM
The violent crime is a byproduct of Hugo Chavez's leadership.....so, probably getting rid of Hugo Chavez would be a good idea. I mean, hey, the violent crime rate doubled over his time in office, so it's not like he has anything to do with it. I can't blame people for violent crime when they're starving as Chavez lets 120 tons of food rot at a government controlled facility...

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Kyle Reese
06-01-2012, 01:40 PM
Although imo Chavez has done some good things for Venezuela, this is something that I can't get behind.

For further discussion, what do folks think would be a good way to reduce violent crime in a country like Venezuela?

What has he done good for Venezuela?

JMS
06-01-2012, 03:18 PM
What is "Get folks to actually pay attention to a South American nation for reasons other than drugs....," Alex!?

LHS
06-01-2012, 04:34 PM
Yeah, let's disarm everyone just before the election. That way, El Hugo gets to stay in power regardless of who wins. Dictators are watching the events in Egypt, Tunisia & Syria and are planning accordingly.

helothar
06-01-2012, 04:48 PM
I was mostly referring to the elimination of illiteracy among the population

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Suvorov
06-01-2012, 06:23 PM
Seems like every Totalitarian government wants to disarm their civilian population...Nazi, Stalinist, Maoist, etc...

It's what they do.

The only thing that surprises me here is that he is just now getting around to it.

Joe in PNG
06-01-2012, 07:52 PM
As someone else pointed out, years ago,:
"Wherever you have an Orwellian boot stamping on a face, there you will also have some western intellectual praising the fact that at least the guy getting stamped is getting free healthcare and education."

Suvorov
06-01-2012, 08:13 PM
As someone else pointed out, years ago,:
"Wherever you have an Orwellian boot stamping on a face, there you will also have some western intellectual praising the fact that at least the guy getting stamped is getting free healthcare and education."

And the grand irony is - those "useful idiots" will be the first ones against the wall when the "change" has been fully realized.

GJM
06-01-2012, 08:21 PM
At Rogers last fall, two participants were from Venezuela. Interesting stories about conditions there.

Tamara
06-02-2012, 03:55 PM
At Rogers last fall, two participants were from Venezuela. Interesting stories about conditions there.

This move should tell you everything you need to know about Pugsley's confidence in the love of his people.

Josh Runkle
06-02-2012, 04:57 PM
Although imo Chavez has done some good things for Venezuela...

Remember that the New York Times wrote awesome things about Hitler and how good of a leader he was, rebuilding Germany, opening the first international highway, starting one of the first national health care programs, having one of the best trained and equipped militaries of the day, jobs programs, etc...

Despite any of those things, no one would bother saying anything nice about that evil monster today.

Mussolini was a hollywood star who raised money for his cause in California right up until WWII. At the time, people were still undecided on whether or not we should have been at war against he and Hitler's socialist agenda.

Point being: SUCKERS bought in to the LIES propagated by EVIL men, who GAVE the PEOPLE a LOT of SOCIAL PROGRAMS and wanted very "LITTLE" in exchange. I'm not calling anyone today a sucker, I'm simply saying that Chavez is simply taking things play-by-play right out of Hitler's book, and we would be wise to use caution believing ANYTHING these men intend for "good." They will give and give and give and require "little" in return, and it will be several years before people wake up to miles of mass graves and genocide, having no way to fight back.

In venezuela, the government runs the people. In America, historically (but debatable today), the people run the government.

jslaker
06-03-2012, 05:02 PM
he and Hitler's socialist agenda.
Post-WWI European fascism and socialism are very different things (and even what fascism evolved into is quite different from what was proposed in the initial Italian fascist manifesto), and proponents of the two ideologies were very much at each others' throats. Recall that some of the strongest supporters of fascist ideology in the United States were industrial magnates; not exactly the kind of people that favor the idea of wealth redistribution.

Let's not dilute our terminology here.

Josh Runkle
06-03-2012, 10:05 PM
Post-WWI European fascism and socialism are very different things (and even what fascism evolved into is quite different from what was proposed in the initial Italian fascist manifesto), and proponents of the two ideologies were very much at each others' throats. Recall that some of the strongest supporters of fascist ideology in the United States were industrial magnates; not exactly the kind of people that favor the idea of wealth redistribution.

Let's not dilute our terminology here.

The original name for the NAZI party was the German SOCIALIST workers party. It was born out of the socialist movement. Fascism and Socialism at face value are different, but fascism and any application of socialism that has existed on the face of the planet are nearly the same. Two of the richest men in the world, George Soros and Warren Buffet spend their billions ADVOCATING wealth redistribution. It's almost the exact same scenario. When it happens again, people will "re-title" everything to explain away the minute differences, but it's the exact same thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

"Drexler proposed that the party be named the German Socialist Worker's Party, but Harrer objected to using the term "socialist" in the name; the issue was settled by removing the term from the name, and it was agreed that the party be named the German Workers' Party (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, DAP).[31] To ease concerns among potential middle-class nationalist supporters, Drexler made clear that unlike Marxists, the party supported middle-class citizens, and that the party's socialist policy was meant to give social welfare to German citizens deemed part of the Aryan race."

jslaker
06-03-2012, 10:12 PM
The original name for the NAZI party was the German SOCIALIST workers party.

East Germany was officially the German Democratic Republic; does that mean East Germany was a democracy?

Fascism has socialist elements, but it most definitely was and is not socialism as we generally understand it today.