Installed an Apex trigger kit in my Glock 45

[Maca]

I never considered changing the trigger in my Glock until I shot a friend’s p320 x5 legion with a straight trigger. I was surprised at how effortlessly the gun shot totally straight with no fliers at a pace hovering around a .30.

So I decided to try a flat/straight trigger in my Glock 45 and ordered an Apex kit with their connector.

Well, a couple boxes later I am pleasantly surprised at seeing no shots pull left, running a timer out of a holster.

It feels like cheating.

So far I can’t see any down sides to it, as the kit uses an OEM trigger bar and maintains all safeties.

Any one else try Apex or any other trigger?

[EVP]

I tried a apex trigger in my g45 and went back to OEM.

I don’t like how it slightly engages the striker block and pushed the gadget slightly out. I also prefer feeling the slight protrusion of the OEM smooth faced trigger as I have a reference of were the center of the face is.

[Maca]

I tried a apex trigger in my g45 and went back to OEM.

I don’t like how it slightly engages the striker block and pushed the gadget slightly out. I also prefer feeling the slight protrusion of the OEM smooth faced trigger as I have a reference of were the center of the face is.

interesting, I did not notice any interference with the gadget.

[Whirlwind06]

I have put a couple of the Vickers flat faced triggers on my Glocks.
I like them, it replaces the trigger shoe so everything else is stock.

[jeep45238]

Gen 5 G17 trigger is a pseudo DA/short stroke revolver trigger pull to me, I'll keep it that way. I'll pass on a straight trigger for a arcing movement at this point in time as well.

But I also shoot a CZ scorpion with a factory 9lb-what, 12lb pull on some guns, in PCC and do better than expected in local matches.



If you really want a crisp break out of a striker gun, look at the PPQ or VP9 - they're far better than any aftermarket Glock trigger I've messed with, and bridge the Glock vs. 1911 trigger feel quite well in my opinion.

[Sero Sed Serio]

interesting, I did not notice any interference with the gadget.

Nor I in my two 19.5 MOSs

[Trukinjp13]

I also noticed no difference with the Gadget


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[JohnO]

Well, a couple boxes later I am pleasantly surprised at seeing no shots pull left, running a timer out of a holster.

It feels like cheating.

So far I can’t see any down sides to it,



Re "downside". How about some consideration toward covering a possible skill issue with an equipment enhancement?

I'm all for nice crisp triggers but not as a crutch. Having the skill and proper programming to use anything is the goal.

[Maca]

Re "downside". How about some consideration toward covering a possible skill issue with an equipment enhancement?

I'm all for nice crisp triggers but not as a crutch. Having the skill and proper programming to use anything is the goal.

By that logic, we should all be carrying revolvers ... :)

[jeep45238]

By that logic, we should all be carrying revolvers ... :)

Carrying and using them for training is different. I'm good for 5/6 hits at 100yards on a A/C steel target, single action out of a K frame. I'm good for 2/6 double action out of the same gun.

If I spend a bit of time with them, I wind up getting much better trigger manipulation and patience with my sights with everything else. If I spend a bit of time with my red dot pistol, my draw and aiming become more precise with everything else.

I think what JohnO is saying is when leaning on equipment to solve your software problems, you're not going to get very far. Sure, the equipment's capabilities have increased, but your limitations and capabilities remain the same.



If pulling left was the only issue, drift the rear dovetail accordingly and see what you're getting. No harm in that, and quite a bit cheaper :-)

[Artemas2]

I used OWP triggers for a couple years now and it was easier for me to feel what a good trigger press felt like and I was able to transfer that to stock guns later on. A bit like how a red dot can make you a better iron sight shooter. If you listen to what it tells you.

With glocks you either have a hand that fits the gun or you spend a lot of time trying to make it fit you. If something gets you on target does it really matter how it happened?
If I can use an aftermarket trigger that is mechanically safe to achieve a result that I would otherwise have to buy a high end 1911 or $1000+ Beretta to get why wouldn't I?

Knocking your sights out of zero to fix a technique issue is kinda of the same thing as a widget that fixes that issue except now beyond your "zero" range things get...weird:cool:

[jeep45238]

I used OWP triggers for a couple years now and it was easier for me to feel what a good trigger press felt like and I was able to transfer that to stock guns later on. A bit like how a red dot can make you a better iron sight shooter. If you listen to what it tells you.

With glocks you either have a hand that fits the gun or you spend a lot of time trying to make it fit you. If something gets you on target does it really matter how it happened?
If I can use an aftermarket trigger that is mechanically safe to achieve a result that I would otherwise have to buy a high end 1911 or $1000+ Beretta to get why wouldn't I?

Knocking your sights out of zero to fix a technique issue is kinda of the same thing as a widget that fixes that issue except now beyond your "zero" range things get...weird:cool:

Re: glock sizing - I can't shoot 19 sized guns worth a damn, and have to undo everything I've ever learned, working really hard at it, to be mediocre at it. Put a G17 in my hand and it's a different story. The triggers still suck compared to a PPQ or VP9, and the price is comparable once the trigger work is factored in.

Re: moving sights in a dovetail. That's called zeroing a pistol. If your sights aren't hitting POA/POI, then the pistol isn't in zero, and drifting the sights will address a windage issue. It does deal with how the gun fits your hand, your grip, hand size, etc., and assumes a consistent grouping - just shifting it one way or the other as needed.

I'm not admonishing anybody who wants to modify, not my monkey, not my circus, I don't care. I'm simply saying that increasing capabilities of hardware without working on the software won't get you very far.

[Artemas2]

Re: moving sights in a dovetail. That's called zeroing a pistol. If your sights aren't hitting POA/POI, then the pistol isn't in zero, and drifting the sights will address a windage issue. It does deal with how the gun fits your hand, your grip, hand size, etc., and assumes a consistent grouping - just shifting it one way or the other as needed.


The gun can be zeroed but not hit anything if the shooter is the issue. I was referring to the people who grossly shank shots left and compensate by knocking their sight to the far end if not overhanging the slide. I could have been more clear about that.

[Maca]

I am not talking about shooting consistently to the left, and adjusting sights to compensate for it. I am talking about the fact that the flat faced trigger has eliminated an occasional shot pulled to the left, while maintaining oem safeties.