Cops Kneel to Wash Feet of BLM Activists.

[Nightvisionary]

Kind of reminds me of the scene from "O Brother Where Art Thou".

Delmar O'Donnell:
"I've been redeemed. The preacher's done warshed away all my sins and transgressions. It's the straight and narrow from here on out, and heaven everlasting's my reward."




https://youtu.be/x-ZdAIPJ9RM

[critter]

WTF is wrong with these idiots? Uh, tell them to fuck off and and in a very loud chorus of voices across the country to "save their own neighborhoods from black on black crime first, then talk about the minuscule numbers of police involved cases."

Supplication is the most absurd course of action imaginable.

[blues]

Police Please just make it stop.

[Doc_Glock]

Religious symbology is very common amongst the Anti Racist movement. This article (https://www.thedailybeast.com/antiracism-our-flawed-new-religion) really helped me understand it. Excerpt below:


The Antiracism religion, then, has clergy, creed, and also even a conception of Original Sin. Note the current idea that the enlightened white person is to, I assume regularly (ritually?), “acknowledge” that they possess White Privilege. Classes, seminars, teach-ins are devoted to making whites understand the need for this. Nominally, this acknowledgment of White Privilege is couched as a prelude to activism, but in practice, the acknowledgment itself is treated as the main meal, as I have noted in this space. A typical presentation getting around lately is 11 Things White People Need to Realize About Race (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/11-things-white-people-need-to-realize-about-race_55b0009be4b07af29d576702), where the purpose of the “acknowledgment” is couched as “moving the conversation forward.” A little vague, no? More conversation? About what? Why not actually say that the purpose is policy and legislation?
Because this isn’t what is actually on the Antiracists’ mind. The call for people to soberly “acknowledge” their White Privilege as a self-standing, totemic act is based on the same justification as acknowledging one’s fundamental sinfulness is as a Christian. One is born marked by original sin; to be white is to be born with the stain of unearned privilege.

[SAWBONES]

OK, that takes the cake as the most incredibly ridiculous thing I've seen to date about "White Guilt"!

As a Christian, I've participated in a "foot-washing" ceremony in church, intended to be (and accomplishing) an expression of genuine humility toward brothers and sisters in the faith, but... members of the law-enforcement community washing the feet of a BLM activist against whom they gave no actual or personal offense?

The police are NOT "corporately guilty" of ANYTHING!
Most folks in law-enforcement, at least those I have as friends or know as patients, are excellent people.

WHERE does this new bullcrap-idea of abolishing, humiliating or otherwise demeaning the police come from?
How can ANYBODY even countenance such obviously ridiculous hyper-pseudo-socialist-propagandist idiocy?

(I've never limited, harmed, or interfered with any black person. My ancestors came from Germany, Scotland and Ireland, and never owned slaves or participated in "anti-black" anything, nor indeed were even here in the USA till the early 20th century, so obviously had nothing to do with Southern slave ownership, so why should I or any other "white" (more pinkish, actually) modern person be considered somehow "guilty" of anything having to do with race-relations?)

The current political-philosophic Zeigeist in our country is unbelievable to me, so I'm definitely not among the "woke".

[BehindBlueI's]

If that were my guys here I'd issue discipline for engaging in political activity in uniform. I'd probably make a few enemies, but they can get in line with the others.

[RJ]

I'll go out on a limb and say that isn't going to be the most fucked up thing I'll see in the next couple of months, but it's close.

[Amp]

‘I Only Kneel For One Person’: Black Georgia Trooper Refuses To Kneel At BLM Protest:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/07/oneal-saddler-georgia-state-trooper-kneel-black-lives-matter-protest/

[Wise_A]

I know more cop-hating cops than I know cop-hating private citizens.

[gkieser92]

If that were my guys here I'd issue discipline for engaging in political activity in uniform. I'd probably make a few enemies, but they can get in line with the others.

Political AND religious. There is no place for either while on duty.

[Borderland]

I'm having a really hard time believing what I just saw.

If this is any indication of what's to come I'm seeing some tough times for pavement dwellers down the road.

[the Schwartz]

I'm having a really hard time believing what I just saw.

If this is any indication of what's to come I'm seeing some tough times for pavement dwellers down the road.

Same here. I am trying to think of this in terms of ''emotions/tensions are really high right now, but it'll cool down over time'', but the inflammatory over-reactions (mainly political drama) keep getting worse. In short, everyone needs to take a deep breath let it rest awhile. Debate ought to wait until tempers cool.

[Leroy Suggs]

I am stunned No words..

[Trooper224]

I should have spent my life working for a Fortune 500 company, instead of wasting it in public service.

[BehindBlueI's]

I should have spent my life working for a Fortune 500 company, instead of wasting it in public service.

I'm strongly considering finishing my bachelor's (I left university in my senior year to accept the job at the PD) and looking at an earlier retirement and moving to private sector. I'm fully vested in just over 5 years.

[Wingate's Hairbrush]

I should have spent my life working for a Fortune 500 company, instead of wasting it in public service.Good chance many'll be hiring their own private police forces soon, so... ;)

[Nightvisionary]

I'm having a really hard time believing what I just saw.

If this is any indication of what's to come I'm seeing some tough times for pavement dwellers down the road.

Oh, there's more:D




https://youtu.be/W7ZRAFd96uM

[Coyotesfan97]

I'm strongly considering finishing my bachelor's (I left university in my senior year to accept the job at the PD) and looking at an earlier retirement and moving to private sector. I'm fully vested in just over 5 years.

I’m done in October. My DROP ends on Halloween. I’m in a good unit. I’ve been torn about retirement but now I’m done.

I’ll kneel to pray to God but I won’t kneel or bow to anyone on the street like that.

Every Chief that marches with protesters would burn any Officer who did the same with a cause the Chief didn’t agree with. No political endorsements on duty. You are apolitical in uniform.

[Trooper224]

I'm strongly considering finishing my bachelor's (I left university in my senior year to accept the job at the PD) and looking at an earlier retirement and moving to private sector. I'm fully vested in just over 5 years.

On a daily basis I'm extremely thankful I retired when I did. If I hadn't already done so I'd be putting in my papers now. To hell with the whole God damned place.

[wvincent]

Oh, there's more:D




https://youtu.be/W7ZRAFd96uM

What the ever loving fuck did I just watch?
Please tell me that was staged.
Or the intro to another cuckold video from DogFart.

Sorry not sorry, that level of appeasement is a bridge much to far.

[Lost River]

I'm strongly considering finishing my bachelor's (I left university in my senior year to accept the job at the PD) and looking at an earlier retirement and moving to private sector. I'm fully vested in just over 5 years.


Absolutely finish school. No matter if you retire early or not. Having that degree along with your background will open more doors.

[blues]

What the actual fuck?

Speechless.

[wvincent]

What the actual fuck?

Speechless.

Whaaat?
YOU Spechless?

We truly are in the End of Days.

[TheNewbie]

I can’t retire but I have enough time in to get my retired peace officer license. It’s seriously weighing on my mind.

[blues]

Whaaat?
YOU Spechless?

We truly are in the End of Days.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/planetoftheapes/images/4/42/Statue_of_Liberty.JPG/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20061028062651

[Trooper224]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/planetoftheapes/images/4/42/Statue_of_Liberty.JPG/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20061028062651

I weep for the reality of that photo.

[the Schwartz]

What the ever loving fuck did I just watch?
Please tell me that was staged.
Or the intro to another cuckold video from DogFart.

Sorry not sorry, that level of appeasement is a bridge much to far.

That's not appeasement. That's utter, mindless, self-humiliating submission.

If this sort of behavior is an accurate reflection of the state of mind of even a small percentage of our younger adult population, we are well and truly screwed.

[blues]

I weep for the reality of that photo.

You and me both, brother.

[Baldanders]

What the ever loving fuck did I just watch?
Please tell me that was staged.
Or the intro to another cuckold video from DogFart.

Sorry not sorry, that level of appeasement is a bridge much to far.

If every guilty liberal wants to do this, I'm fine with it.

In my neck of the woods, an offer to do this might get you shot. Or a visit from LE after black folks call in with complaints about a sex pervert on the loose.... or a crazy person.

[Baldanders]

That's not appeasement. That's utter, mindless, self-humiliating submission.

If this sort of behavior is an accurate reflection of the state of mind of even a small percentage of our younger adult population, we are well and truly screwed.

I'm pretty sure it's limited to folks with too much money.

I guess the fact I just mostly find this funny shows what a bad, bad human I am.

Now, if people start making their kids do this.......

ETA: I just see white people taking advantage of black folks.

Don't they know that people usually pay good money for that sort of thing? Devious white devils.

[SouthNarc]

Oh, there's more:D




https://youtu.be/W7ZRAFd96uM


That’s straight out of prison culture.

Disgusting.

[LittleLebowski]

This is out of control.

[blues]

This is out of control.

I don't know if I'm more embarrassed or ashamed.

[Totem Polar]

“Nothing surprises me anymore. I am, however, still amazed on occasion.”
-Me, and some other people

[Jim Watson]

Geez, I saw this somewhere else and was going to ask here if it were real or if it was staged or faked. But here it is accepted by people with good sources.
We thought Obama bowing to the King of Araby was un-American, but it is getting worse.

[Caballoflaco]

Oh, there's more:D




https://youtu.be/W7ZRAFd96uM

A quick YouTube search shows this video is at least 3 months old and there are similar videos of this same group of black speakers going back at least three years. While it’s representative of the zeitgeist and related to some of the things we’re seeing now on tv I think it is important to note that this video isn’t current.

[Darth_Uno]

A quick YouTube search shows this video is at least 3 months old and there are similar videos of this same group of black speakers going back at least three years. While it’s representative of the zeitgeist and related to some of the things we’re seeing now on tv I think it is important to note that this video isn’t current.

Thank you for pointing that out. Even so...that makes me sick to my stomach. It's not a race thing. I'm not kissing anyone's boots. "Have you no dignity" is a rhetorical question here. Clearly they don't. I literally cannot wrap my brain around this.

[TheNewbie]

These people are disgraces to the badge, decent people, and clear thinkers.

Plus they are morons if they think this will make them loved by the leaders of this movement.

[critter]

These people are disgraces to the badge, decent people, and clear thinkers.

Plus they are morons if they think this will make them loved by the leaders of this movement.

Overwhelming strength beats the hell out of apologies and pandering every time. No one respects ass kissers.

[andre3k]

If that were my guys here I'd issue discipline for engaging in political activity in uniform. I'd probably make a few enemies, but they can get in line with the others.Hard to do that if the Chief is in on it. I'm waiting on Floyds family as I type this to give them an official police motorcycle escort to dinner. 14 officers and myself were given a order from the Chief last night to escort the family around today.

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[BehindBlueI's]

Hard to do that if the Chief is in on it.

Clear on that.

[Suvorov]

I don't know if I'm more embarrassed or ashamed.

I am neither. I am terribly discouraged for the future of our country. How do we recover from this infection of madness?

[Totem Polar]

Hard to do that if the Chief is in on it. I'm waiting on Floyds family as I type this to give them an official police motorcycle escort to dinner. 14 officers and myself were given a order from the Chief last night to escort the family around today.

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Looks like *somebody* is already spending that juicy settlement money

[SeriousStudent]

Hard to do that if the Chief is in on it. I'm waiting on Floyds family as I type this to give them an official police motorcycle escort to dinner. 14 officers and myself were given a order from the Chief last night to escort the family around today.

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Be safe, our thoughts are with you.

[wvincent]

Looks like *somebody* is already spending that juicy settlement money

I doubt it. Most likely it and everything else was "comped"

[Hieronymous]

In case you thought these episodes must be uncommon......

https://youtu.be/MJ6IBmVj3XQ

[wvincent]

In case you thought these episodes must be uncommon......

https://youtu.be/MJ6IBmVj3XQ

Damn, this shit is getting stupid.
I surely hope nobody asks me to do this.

[Hieronymous]

Damn, this shit is getting stupid.
I surely hope nobody asks me to do this.

It could be a condition for safe passage through downtown Minneapolis soon 😁

[wvincent]

It could be a condition for safe passage through downtown Minneapolis soon 😁

Yeah, the new Minnesota "Toll".

Hard pass.

[SAWBONES]

I don't know if I'm more embarrassed or ashamed.

Really, I'm more dismayed by this crap than either ashamed or embarrassed, although I guess I do feel embarrassed to a degree for the white boot-kisser-foot-washers who inappropriately subordinate themselves without reason to a false-concept ideology.

Are you serving anyone other than yourselves, and your peculiar modern masochistic need to grovel and capitulate? Did you do anything to personally harm or interfere with "people of color"? If not, why are you acting in an obeisant manner toward such folks?

Speak and act truthfully!

[Oldherkpilot]

Damn, this shit is getting stupid.
I surely hope nobody asks me to do this.

For just a split second, I kinda hoped someone would. I'm over it now.

[andre3k]

Be safe, our thoughts are with you.

All is well. The family was very thankful and cordial. After dealing with this for 14-16 hrs per day, every day since May 29, I'm looking forward to a break. Honestly, I haven't had time to process all of it yet.

[parishioner]

Hard to do that if the Chief is in on it. I'm waiting on Floyds family as I type this to give them an official police motorcycle escort to dinner. 14 officers and myself were given a order from the Chief last night to escort the family around today.

Boy, for wanting to “abolish the police” they sure do like their police escorts

[BehindBlueI's]

I doubt it. Most likely it and everything else was "comped"

This. Some people will think, perhaps correctly, that I'm a cynical asshole for what I'm about to say.

They are being treated like a police officer's family and for the same reasons. Perhaps a touch of genuine concern and empathy, but a huge dose of political showboating opportunities for the politicians and their appointees. An opportunity to make the funeral about THEM, not the decedent.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

[willie]

Licking boots today. Asking for golden showers tomorrow. Never have I seen anything like this. What will they lick next?

[RevolverRob]

Boy, for wanting to “abolish the police” they sure do like their police escorts

I think - to be fair - Floyd's family has not actively advocated for abolishing the police. And they have been very vocal that they did not support riots.

___

If someone asks me to kneel - I'm afraid I'm gonna have to channel my inner Leonidas...A free man does not kneel before any person not even a king.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NV9DSykTbo

[parishioner]

I think - to be fair - Floyd's family has not actively advocated for abolishing the police. And they have been very vocal that they did not support riots.

It would make sense that their words are being suppressed by outlets since it doesn’t fit the current agenda

[Wendell]

Reminded of:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pQLJsB6Pfg

[Wise_A]

In case you thought these episodes must be uncommon......

https://youtu.be/MJ6IBmVj3XQ

In the interest of full disclosure, the official word is that that guy is just some random jackass, who posted it claiming he was trolling and joking. That said, the fact that he's just some random jackass doesn't diminish his actions, and BLM has failed to denounce the poster. That he was able to get away with it speaks volumes about the power of social media to subvert the individual, and the inadequacy of the law to protect the individual from being held hostage by a cell phone. I fear we are doing irreparable harm to race relations in this country.

Hell, this evening I heard a white liberal say that "racism should be illegal". The residents of Skokie, Illinois could not be reached for comment. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_ Skokie)

[RoyGBiv]

Damn, this shit is getting stupid.
I surely hope nobody asks me to do this.

Surely that had to be staged. I hope.

[blues]

All I can say is, thank goodness this all happened before the coming election, so that folks who were on the fence now have a better perspective on what they might otherwise have chosen.

Personally, in the wake of these recent horrific events and their aftermath, I think the Dems have handed the Republicans a huge advantage in the coming election by making it clear exactly what their vision and agenda is for our country going forward.

No thanks.

[Nightvisionary]

I think - to be fair - Floyd's family has not actively advocated for abolishing the police. And they have been very vocal that they did not support riots.

___

If someone asks me to kneel - I'm afraid I'm gonna have to channel my inner Leonidas...A free man does not kneel before any person not even a king.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NV9DSykTbo

The family has petitioned the U.N. but if this article is correct I agree with what they are asking for.


https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/george-floyds-family-files-urgent-appeal-to-the-united-nations-to-stop-extrajudicial-killings-of-african-americans/

[the Schwartz]

The family has petitioned the U.N. but if this article is correct I agree with what they are asking for.


https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/george-floyds-family-files-urgent-appeal-to-the-united-nations-to-stop-extrajudicial-killings-of-african-americans/

I find it interesting that the article cites the deaths of Trayvon Martin (who was not killed by police officers) and Michael Brown (who was killed as he struggled to disarm a police officer) whose death was ruled as justifiable self-defense and for good reason. If anyone wants to make such a case, it might be more to their advantage to not cite examples that stand in contrast to their position.

[blues]

I find it interesting that the article cites the deaths of Trayvon Martin (who was not killed by police officers) and Michael Brown (who was killed as he struggled to disarm a police officer) whose death was ruled as justifiable self-defense and for good reason. If anyone wants to make such a case, it might be more to their advantage to not cite examples that stand in contrast to their position.

Why let facts interfere with the narrative? We see way too much of this on all sides now. The media, the parties, the apologists, the White House...the list goes on and on.

Say it enough times and some portion of the clueless population will accept it as gospel. Truth be damned.

[the Schwartz]

Why let facts interfere with the narrative? We see way too much of this on all sides now. The media, the parties, the apologists, the White House...the list goes on and on.

Say it enough times and some portion of the clueless population will accept it as gospel. Truth be damned.

Yep, the stupidity is frustrating, ain't it? I read somewhere (a technical article discussing the duration of the human species) that the life expectancy of the human species as a whole is estimated at approximately 10,000 years, that being a pessimistic lower limit. Present evidence suggests that they are "high" by at least a factor of 10.

[RevolverRob]

I find it interesting that the article cites the deaths of Trayvon Martin (who was not killed by police officers) and Michael Brown (who was killed as he struggled to disarm a police officer) whose death was ruled as justifiable self-defense and for good reason. If anyone wants to make such a case, it might be more to their advantage to not cite examples that stand in contrast to their position.

While I concur with your point above. I thought their wording choice was inflammatory, but clear -


“The extrajudicial killing of African Americans by police officers in the United States constitutes such a pervasive and widespread pattern that White Americans have been emboldened to act as vigilantes,” the letter continued, citing the shooting deaths of both Trayvon Martin and Ahmaud Arbery.

What's incorrect in that statement is that Zimmerman is hispanic, not white. And therefore half of their cited examples for "white vigilantes" do not meet the basic description of the pervasive and widespread pattern. It goes back to your point Schwartz that their citations are citing examples in contrast to their position. It's clear to me that the primary purpose for the citation of these cases is strictly to capitalize on those cases with high profile media coverage in the recent past.

Interesting that the only case they cited prior to 2012 was Martin Lee Anderson (2006). Someone the lawyer claims was killed by police officers, that isn't true, he died in a corrections facility at the hands of corrections officers (it's unclear to me if those individuals were also peace officers, but they were functioning in the role of corrections officers during the time of Mr. Anderson's death). - So that further undermines the general ideas being presented here.

[Totem Polar]

All I can say is, thank goodness this all happened before the coming election, so that folks who were on the fence now have a better perspective on what they might otherwise have chosen.

Personally, in the wake of these recent horrific events and their aftermath, I think the Dems have handed the Republicans a huge advantage in the coming election by making it clear exactly what their vision and agenda is for our country going forward.

No thanks.

While I agree 100 percent with everything above, intellectual honesty and skepticism alike require me to point out that the next election will be showing you and I an image of what percentage of America is wired for long-term thinking vs what percentage is wired for poor impulse control. Brother, I wish I could sit and watch the returns with you—along with a bottle of very good whiskey.

[KeeFus]

If that were my guys here I'd issue discipline for engaging in political activity in uniform. I'd probably make a few enemies, but they can get in line with the others.

I posted in the other thread...

This is local to me...the guy wearing a black hat, mask, black shirt, and pants kneeling at the start of the video is the Chief of Apex PD. The black female in the white shirt is the Chief of Morrisville PD, and the female in the dark blue uniform that walks up with the white male in uniform is the Chief of Cary PD. All three agencies jurisdictions touch each other and they're all in West/southwest Wake County (Raleigh).

I've spoken with people at all 3 agencies since this shit show hit the internet and they're all speechless. I certainly have nothing... (looks at retirement calendar countdown...shrugs shoulders...walks away).

[the Schwartz]

While I concur with your point above. I thought their wording choice was inflammatory, but clear -



What's incorrect in that statement is that Zimmerman is hispanic, not white. And therefore half of their cited examples for "white vigilantes" do not meet the basic description of the pervasive and widespread pattern. It goes back to your point Schwartz that their citations are citing examples in contrast to their position. It's clear to me that the primary purpose for the citation of these cases is strictly to capitalize on those cases with high profile media coverage in the recent past.

Interesting that the only case they cited prior to 2012 was Martin Lee Anderson (2006). Someone the lawyer claims was killed by police officers, that isn't true, he died in a corrections facility at the hands of corrections officers (it's unclear to me if those individuals were also peace officers, but they were functioning in the role of corrections officers during the time of Mr. Anderson's death). - So that further undermines the general ideas being presented here.

We (you and I, that is) are generally of the mind especially in matters like this; I am evermore convinced that, with the pleasant exception of present company (most of us here on P-F) that we've borne witness to the death of the three most important tenets of civil society; 1. critical thinking, 2. personal accountability, and 3. forward-directed perseverance.

BTW, love your avatar! (You're a dumb-ass. Change my mind.)...as it reflects my general approach to dealing with most folks these days. Or maybe, I am just getting old and cantankerous at 55.

[blues]

While I agree 100 percent with everything above, intellectual honesty and skepticism alike require me to point out that the next election will be showing you and I an image of what percentage of America is wired for long-term thinking vs what percentage is wired for poor impulse control. Brother, I wish I could sit and watch the returns with you—along with a bottle of very good whiskey.

Make that two bottles...we'll need it.

...More if SouthNarc shows up.

[Nightvisionary]

While I concur with your point above. I thought their wording choice was inflammatory, but clear -



What's incorrect in that statement is that Zimmerman is hispanic, not white. And therefore half of their cited examples for "white vigilantes" do not meet the basic description of the pervasive and widespread pattern. It goes back to your point Schwartz that their citations are citing examples in contrast to their position. It's clear to me that the primary purpose for the citation of these cases is strictly to capitalize on those cases with high profile media coverage in the recent past.

Interesting that the only case they cited prior to 2012 was Martin Lee Anderson (2006). Someone the lawyer claims was killed by police officers, that isn't true, he died in a corrections facility at the hands of corrections officers (it's unclear to me if those individuals were also peace officers, but they were functioning in the role of corrections officers during the time of Mr. Anderson's death). - So that further undermines the general ideas being presented here.


Zimmerman is Caucasian so from the perspective of many the statement is correct.

[the Schwartz]

Zimmerman is Caucasian so from the perspective of many the statement is correct.

And yet, Zimmerman, being Hispanic, is also aptly classified as a "person of color", too, if we are to lay all of our cards upon the table.

[HCM]

Zimmerman is Caucasian so from the perspective of many the statement is correct.


And yet, Zimmerman, being Hispanic, is also aptly classified as a "person of color", too, if we are to lay all of our cards upon the table.

Hispanic / Latino is an ethnicity, not a race.

Hispanics can be white, black, Native American or, in many cases, a mix.

[Suvorov]

Zimmerman is Caucasian so from the perspective of many the statement is correct.


And yet, Zimmerman, being Hispanic, is also aptly classified as a "person of color", too, if we are to lay all of our cards upon the table.

Hispanics are the race baiter’s trump card. If they are the victim they are a person of color, if they are the perpetrator- they are a white nationalist.

This gets especially comical when dealing with the Latin Americans who are of a 100% European bloodline like so many of them are.

[RevolverRob]

We (you and I, that is) are generally of the mind especially in matters like this; I am evermore convinced that, with the pleasant exception of present company (most of us here on P-F) that we've borne witness to the death of the three most important tenets of civil society; 1. critical thinking, 2. personal accountability, and 3. forward-directed perseverance.

Man, I really hope you are wrong. But at least the level of accountability and critical thinking that has been present in our society for the last couple of months and especially the last couple of weeks - is giving me real pause. And while I am generally a pessimistic asshole about things, my optimism usually shines through for the hope and future of our particular society.


BTW, love your avatar! (You're a dumb-ass. Change my mind.)...as it reflects my general approach to dealing with most folks these days. Or maybe, I am just getting old and cantankerous at 55.

Ha, my wife actually sent me this one and said, "You need this to be your avatar on P-F." Red Foreman is my spirit animal. I'm prone to suggesting that people are dumb asses frequently (I attribute it to too much That '70s Show during my formative teenage years) and have more than once stared at people saying stupid things and wondered aloud, "Why am I surrounded by dumb asses?"

[SouthNarc]

Make that two bottles...we'll need it.

...More if SouthNarc shows up.


Post Covid I'm just getting warmed up on a bottle of my own.

[blues]

Post Covid I'm just getting warmed up on a bottle of my own.

Well, you're only being prudent since the recommendation is a minimum of 70% alcohol to effectively kill the virus.

[Oldherkpilot]

The family has petitioned the U.N. but if this article is correct I agree with what they are asking for.


https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/george-floyds-family-files-urgent-appeal-to-the-united-nations-to-stop-extrajudicial-killings-of-african-americans/

So now we are going to have to deal with rioters AND blue helmets? Maybe I DO need a belt-fed weapon!55607

[Totem Polar]

Make that two bottles...we'll need it.

...More if SouthNarc shows up.

Craig, come on over. Blues will make sure to put out another chair for your BUL.*




*Backup Liver

[Nightvisionary]

Hispanics are the race baiter’s trump card. If they are the victim they are a person of color, if they are the perpetrator- they are a white nationalist.

This gets especially comical when dealing with the Latin Americans who are of a 100% European bloodline like so many of them are.

From that perspective fluidity does not only apply to gender. In my case I have found it convenient at times when conversing with white SJW types.

[SeriousStudent]

While I agree 100 percent with everything above, intellectual honesty and skepticism alike require me to point out that the next election will be showing you and I an image of what percentage of America is wired for long-term thinking vs what percentage is wired for poor impulse control. Brother, I wish I could sit and watch the returns with you—along with a bottle of very good whiskey.


You rang?

[SeriousStudent]

Post Covid I'm just getting warmed up on a bottle of my own.

I just snagged three truly incredible bottles of single-cask rum from Richard Seale in Barbados.

And cigars. Oodles of cigars.

[Totem Polar]

Man, we should do a virtual P-F hang on election night. I’m feeling the Sazerac vibe on my end, already.

[the Schwartz]

We (you and I, that is) are generally of the mind especially in matters like this; I am evermore convinced that, with the pleasant exception of present company (most of us here on P-F) that we've borne witness to the death of the three most important tenets of civil society; 1. critical thinking, 2. personal accountability, and 3. forward-directed perseverance.

BTW, love your avatar! (You're a dumb-ass. Change my mind.)...as it reflects my general approach to dealing with most folks these days. Or maybe, I am just getting old and cantankerous at 55.


Man, I really hope you are wrong. But at least the level of accountability and critical thinking that has been present in our society for the last couple of months and especially the last couple of weeks - is giving me real pause. And while I am generally a pessimistic asshole about things, my optimism usually shines through for the hope and future of our particular society.

In this particular instance, I hope that I am wrong, too, but the level of idiocy accompanied by the increasing anger (some of it justified, some not) suggests that things are far worse than I had realized. While I believe that every profession can stand some improvement/reform, the irrational—Hell, let's just call it what it is; ''dumb ass''—idea that doing away with police is 'the answer' just dumb-founds me. What we should be doing is INCREASING funding for increased hiring, educating, training, and better equipping our LE personnel, helping them to do a more efficient job and changing our recruiting/selection practices to secure applicants more suitable to the profession and ''weeding out'' those that aren't.

As I said earlier in another post, cooler heads need to prevail so we can support those who are responsible for ensuring order through law. Condemning all LE personnel for the actions of a very small percentage of those in the profession (who are in the process of being prosecuted for their misdeeds as we speak) and disbanding police as a ''solution'' is simply not a ''shot'' in our collective ''foot'' that we need right now. Maybe we get out of this and better ourselves in the process, but I am not holding out much hope at this time.

[Lex Luthier]

You rang?


Is it wrong that I heard that uttered in the original Lurchian?

[RevolverRob]

Lex Luthier - I just read your sig...Thank you.

Today, when I am angry, tired, and running on fumes, that gave me a genuine belly laugh, it was what I needed.

I'll get up tomorrow and put on a black t-shirt, like I always do, to try to carry off a little darkness on my back - but it never hurts to remember that just as much as we can be angry, we can cry, we can fight, we can laugh.

Thank you.

[JAD]

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I'll get up tomorrow and put on a black t-shirt, like I always do, to try to carry off a little darkness on my back - but it never hurts to remember that just as much as we can be angry, we can cry, we can fight, we can laugh.

He wears black on the outside, because black is how he feels on the inside.

[JAD]

Is it wrong that I heard that uttered in the original Lurchian?

That’s a different DFW PFer.

[SeriousStudent]

Is it wrong that I heard that uttered in the original Lurchian?

Then I can only assume you have a warrant, and were listening closely.

[SeriousStudent]

That’s a different DFW PFer.

Indeed. He shoots more gooder than me, too. Taller, but with a smaller stash of liquor.

Come to think of it, just about everyone has a smaller stash of liquor than me.

[SouthNarc]

Man, we should do a virtual P-F hang on election night. I’m feeling the Sazerac vibe on my end, already.

I could totally host that on Zoom.

[SeriousStudent]

I could totally host that on Zoom.

Did I mention I have a large patio and a humidor the size of a small fridge? It could be the DFW meeting annex.

And I'll probably feel like drinking that night, regardless of how the election turns out.

[Totem Polar]

I could totally host that on Zoom.

In.

Just remember to disable the recording setting so shit doesn’t get weird the morning after. :)

[RevolverRob]

This thread took a nice turn. Gives me a vague sense of...something warm and fuzzy. Is that hope?

Oh no...it’s bourbon. That’s okay too.

[JAD]

In.

Just remember to disable the recording setting so shit doesn’t get weird the morning after. :)

Yes, avoid the Christmas rush, make it weird immediately.

[BehindBlueI's]

Yes, avoid the Christmas rush, make it weird immediately.

Safety word is pomegranate.