Railed Glock 43X

[call_me_ski]

Anyone have any intel regarding US availability of the 43X and 48 with rails? I am growing impatient and they have been available in Europe for months.

[Xhado]

No point in having them until Surefire releases the light that's built for the rail.

[GearFondler]

No point in having them until Surefire releases the light that's built for the rail.You never want to be waiting for Surefire to release anything...
Release the damn railed Glocks and Streamlight will have an option in short order, as well as other manufacturers.

[Xhado]

You never want to be waiting for Surefire to release anything...
Release the damn railed Glocks and Streamlight will have an option in short order, as well as other manufacturers.

I disagree.

The P365 has been out for years with a proprietary rail and the 100 lumen Streamlight makes for it is terrible.

[GearFondler]

I disagree.

The P365 has been out for years with a proprietary rail and the 100 lumen Streamlight makes for it is terrible.And yet there are plenty of people unhappy with the XC1 at only 300lm... Will it get any better when it's shrunk down to fit the 43?
Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it.
The real aggravation however is with Glock... The damn things should have had a rail from day one. Glock can be as aggravating as Apple.

[psalms144.1]

I'm not a GLOCK fanboi, but in their defense, NONE of their subcompact pistols (starting with the G26) have ever had a rail, so I'm not sure why folks are surprised/disappointed the 43/X/48 don't. Some of us remember the fiasco when folks started hanging lights on the dust cover of their 3rd Gen Glocks - how many generations of magazines did it take to get that right? Is it still right?

I'm at this point on the issue - just like GLOCK would make the shit out of higher capacity G43 magazines if they could find a design that was durable and reliable, I'm betting the continued lack of a light-rail for the sub compacts is because GLOCK doesn't think it's viable.

Or I could be talking out my ass - which happens with increasing frequency as I age...

[Super77]

I just use a CT Laserguard Pro with the laser turned off; white light only. It does what an X300 with DG switch does without needing a rail. Not super bright but works fine.

[call_me_ski]

I'm not a GLOCK fanboi, but in their defense, NONE of their subcompact pistols (starting with the G26) have ever had a rail, so I'm not sure why folks are surprised/disappointed the 43/X/48 don't. Some of us remember the fiasco when folks started hanging lights on the dust cover of their 3rd Gen Glocks - how many generations of magazines did it take to get that right? Is it still right?

I'm at this point on the issue - just like GLOCK would make the shit out of higher capacity G43 magazines if they could find a design that was durable and reliable, I'm betting the continued lack of a light-rail for the sub compacts is because GLOCK doesn't think it's viable.

Or I could be talking out my ass - which happens with increasing frequency as I age...

The problem with that assumption is that Glock is shipping 43x with rails pistols to customers outside of the US market. You can find retailer listings and Instagram photos of people that have them in Europe. I don’t want Glock to make something they don’t. I just want them to sell us what they already sell other people.

[BigT]

The problem with that assumption is that Glock is shipping 43x with rails pistols to customers outside of the US market. You can find retailer listings and Instagram photos of people that have them in Europe. I don’t want Glock to make something they don’t. I just want them to sell us what they already sell other people.
If it helps you get stuff no one else does ;)

[call_me_ski]

Someone on reddit claims to have gotten a railed 48 and 43X shipped from Glock USA with a picture to show. So it looks like some of them are starting to ship out to influencers and other VIPs. Hopefully soon...

[Wonder9]

Someone on reddit claims to have gotten a railed 48 and 43X shipped from Glock USA with a picture to show. So it looks like some of them are starting to ship out to influencers and other VIPs. Hopefully soon...

Said thread?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Glocks/comments/gmy638/g43x_and_g48_railed_models_unreleased_us/

[call_me_ski]

Yup.

[Wondering Beard]

Said thread?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Glocks/comments/gmy638/g43x_and_g48_railed_models_unreleased_us/

Maybe it's the angle or the lighting but those don't look like proper Glock rails.

[LittleLebowski]

I’m pretty annoyed by the wait on the railed G48.

[CalAlumnus]

Maybe it's the angle or the lighting but those don't look like proper Glock rails.

Could be the lighting. Looks the same as on the Glock website to me.

https://eu.glock.com/en/products/pistols/g48-rail

[Wondering Beard]

Could be the lighting. Looks the same as on the Glock website to me.

https://eu.glock.com/en/products/pistols/g48-rail

So it seems, I hadn't thought about checking the EU website.

[call_me_ski]

Could be the lighting. Looks the same as on the Glock website to me.

https://eu.glock.com/en/products/pistols/g48-rail

I believe that they are narrower than a typical Glock rail.

[Up1911Fan]

I believe that they are narrower than a typical Glock rail.

You mean like the frame?

[call_me_ski]

You mean like the frame?

The frame and corresponding rail is narrower than on their full-size counterparts.

[BigT]

Yeah its a narrower rail.

Those pics look correct.

[cornstalker]

I am curious about the light in the "Slimline combo with tactical light". (Coming soon.)

[rob_s]

Resurrecting this thread two months later because now I want a railed g48 and suddenly have the cares.

ETA:
In the short term, is a G48 with a TLR6 about the only/best next best thing?

[GJM]

Glock generally releases a new pistol late August, wonder if it will be a railed 43X/48.

[LittleLebowski]

Glock generally releases a new pistol late August, wonder if it will be a railed 43X/48.

#MyBodyIsReady (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=MyBodyIsReady)

[ST911]

Resurrecting this thread two months later because now I want a railed g48 and suddenly have the cares.
ETA:
In the short term, is a G48 with a TLR6 about the only/best next best thing?

I know some folks using G43Xs and G48s with TLR6s for duty guns. Less optimal, but gets them by until the railed versions arrive.

Output and throw are enough less compared to other lights that I'd not intentionally choose this option if a railed gun was imminent, unless I just had to have it.

I have seen some TLR6 housings cracked from normal use. Customer service for the fix was pretty painless.

[WobblyPossum]

Assuming the railed G48/43x are finally coming to the US, what would be the best light to mount? I have a TLR7A on my G19 and it’s the same width as the gun. A holster for a G48 with TLR7A would likely leave an unacceptable amount of empty space around the trigger guard due to the width difference between the gun and the light.

[Xhado]

Assuming the railed G48/43x are finally coming to the US, what would be the best light to mount? I have a TLR7A on my G19 and it’s the same width as the gun. A holster for a G48 with TLR7A would likely leave an unacceptable amount of empty space around the trigger guard due to the width difference between the gun and the light.

When they do show up, hopefully the proprietary Surefire shows up at the same time.

[rob_s]

I know some folks using G43Xs and G48s with TLR6s for duty guns. Less optimal, but gets them by until the railed versions arrive.

Output and throw are enough less compared to other lights that I'd not intentionally choose this option if a railed gun was imminent, unless I just had to have it.

I have seen some TLR6 housings cracked from normal use. Customer service for the fix was pretty painless.

that's the rub right, is the railed model going to drop next week? And if so, how long do I have to wait to get one in my hands? Particularly in today's world of covid, riots, bidens, etc.

I may see if I can grab a current 48 and then have an excuse/reason to get the railed one later so I have two. If I could find one of the silver-slide 48s with Ameriglos I'd probably buy just because.

[GJM]

that's the rub right, is the railed model going to drop next week? And if so, how long do I have to wait to get one in my hands? Particularly in today's world of covid, riots, bidens, etc.

I may see if I can grab a current 48 and then have an excuse/reason to get the railed one later so I have two. If I could find one of the silver-slide 48s with Ameriglos I'd probably buy just because.

The last few years, Glock has been shipping new products the day they have been officially released, with product in the distributor pipeline ahead of the release date. No idea if they will have a new product later this week, and if they do how Covid would impact availability.

[Navin Johnson]

Surefire XC1-B has far less candela than tlr-6. It has 300 lumens but listed only a 50 meter range TLR-6 has 90 meter listed range. Flood much better with SF.

Guessing the only slimline light SF will have is a version of XC1-B so....Tlr-6 not necessarily that bad at least at this point.

Both are likely adequate for SD and CQ. Carry a hand held to reach out....because one should have one anyway.

[call_me_ski]

Glock generally releases a new pistol late August, wonder if it will be a railed 43X/48.

The Glock 47 did appear briefly on some online retailers...

[Center Shot]

The Glock 47 did appear briefly on some online retailers...

Since Glock will be releasing the Gen5 in 40S&W in the fall, they may wait on the railed G43.

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2020/08/10/glock-gen5-40-caliber/

[GJM]

I will go all in and bet 10 PF bucks there will be some new Perfection announced next week.

[JHC]

I will go all in and bet 10 PF bucks there will be some new Perfection announced next week.

Whoa. I don't recall your PF bucks wagers going that high before . . . :confused:

[cornstalker]

Whoa. I don't recall your PF bucks wagers going that high before . . . :confused:

Insider trading.

[Olim9]

I will go all in and bet 10 PF bucks there will be some new Perfection announced next week.

A G48R would be cool but I'd really dig a longslide 48 ;)

[Wonder9]

43X-R MOS when?

[Mike C]

43X-R MOS when?

I hope so but in typical Glock fashion it will likely be "Perfection" re-released one upgrade at a time. I.E. railed version, then MOS version and then railed MOS version after that. Got to give it to their marketing people. They kill it.

[LittleLebowski]

I will go all in and bet 10 PF bucks there will be some new Perfection announced next week.

What’s the PF dollar to peso conversion rate this week?

[GJM]

What’s the PF dollar to peso conversion rate this week?

I assumed you would cover me for the 10 pistol forum dollars.

[LittleLebowski]

I assumed you would cover me for the 10 pistol forum dollars.

In pesos, sure :)

[call_me_ski]

43X-R MOS when?

This is really what the people want. By people I mean me.

[GJM]

This is really what the people want. By people I mean me.

Yes, that and a MOS G44 and G22.

[MGW]

A 48 with a light is pretty interesting.

[ECVMatt]

Looks like it is starting to leak. Take a peak at about 25 seconds in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=j-6BLvSxx7c&feature=emb_logo

Looks like a 48, railed, and optics ready.

[call_me_ski]

Gonna be an expensive month coming up.

So what do we like for a compact red dot? RMSc?

[Polecat]

They need to update 43 to accept the “x” mags, slide update and optic ready.

[rob_s]

Looks like it is starting to leak. Take a peak at about 25 seconds in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=j-6BLvSxx7c&feature=emb_logo

Looks like a 48, railed, and optics ready.

Man, I hope they don’t jump over the railed-only and go straight to full hipster with the MOS and rail as the only way to get a rail.

[HeavyDuty]

A MOS-like 43 and/or 48 is what I’ve been waiting for - hopefully it will spur compact RDS development, too. I’m not completely enthused by the current compact offerings. And I have two Glock BL coupons to use...

[HeavyDuty]

They need to update 43 to accept the “x” mags, slide update and optic ready.

Wouldn’t that be a 43X?

[HeavyDuty]

Looks like it is starting to leak. Take a peak at about 25 seconds in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=j-6BLvSxx7c&feature=emb_logo

Looks like a 48, railed, and optics ready.

A cropped screen grab for those who can’t watch the video:

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[GJM]

A cropped screen grab for those who can’t watch the video:

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At first, I was puzzled because I did not see a plate under the optic. On second thought, that would make sense if it was cut only for the RMSc foot print, it would effectively be direct mailed from the factory and not require a plate.

[HeavyDuty]

At first, I was puzzled because I did not see a plate under the optic. On second thought, that would make sense if it was cut only for the RMSc foot print, it would effectively be direct mailed from the factory and not require a plate.

I suspect they will provide a filler plate, too. And it sure looks like normal height sights are an option. I love my 19 MOS / RMR, but IMO suppressor sights suck.

[RAM Engineer]

Wouldn’t that be a 43X?

No. A short grip 43X (43 length), that will take 7 round mags and the 10 round mags.

[ECVMatt]

A cropped screen grab for those who can’t watch the video:

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That is much better and way beyond my capabilities. The best I could have done is taken an Instamatic of my TV screen while my VCR was on pause.

Thanks!

Definitely interested in what Glock has coming down the pipeline this month!

[H&K]

I saw this episode of Guns and Gear, Shane C. said there will be a G43x MOS and a G48 MOS both with "non-standard" rails.

[Polecat]

Wouldn’t that be a 43X?

No, it would offer a bit shorter grip, granted it would only hold 8 maybe, since they are too short sighted and stubborn to use metal mags. Shield could produce a higher cap.

[HeavyDuty]

No, it would offer a bit shorter grip, granted it would only hold 8 maybe, since they are too short sighted and stubborn to use metal mags. Shield could produce a higher cap.

I’m not sure I agree with the need for this. If they do, I hope they would keep the current version in production.

[MGW]

My only issue with the 48 is the recoil spring rate feels off to me. My guess is it’s over sprung for the slightly heavier slide compared to the 43x. I think a little lighter spring would really wake that pistol up. Stoeger’s pro shop has an aftermarket solution for the 48 now and I’ve been really tempted to pick up another 48 to experiment with. Unfortunately, or fortunately for my pocket book, I haven’t been able to find a new all black 48. If a railed MOS model is hitting soon I might just hold off. Unless I find a deal on a used 48. Unlikely in the current environment.

[JHC]

My only issue with the 48 is the recoil spring rate feels off to me. My guess is it’s over sprung for the slightly heavier slide compared to the 43x. I think a little lighter spring would really wake that pistol up. Stoeger’s pro shop has an aftermarket solution for the 48 now and I’ve been really tempted to pick up another 48 to experiment with. Unfortunately, or fortunately for my pocket book, I haven’t been able to find a new all black 48. If a railed MOS model is hitting soon I might just hold off. Unless I find a deal on a used 48. Unlikely in the current environment.

Mine as well.

[CS Tactical]

A cropped screen grab for those who can’t watch the video:

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That would be listed for $2,500-3,000 on Calguns :p

[CS Tactical]

My only issue with the 48 is the recoil spring rate feels off to me. My guess is it’s over sprung for the slightly heavier slide compared to the 43x. I think a little lighter spring would really wake that pistol up. Stoeger’s pro shop has an aftermarket solution for the 48 now and I’ve been really tempted to pick up another 48 to experiment with. Unfortunately, or fortunately for my pocket book, I haven’t been able to find a new all black 48. If a railed MOS model is hitting soon I might just hold off. Unless I find a deal on a used 48. Unlikely in the current environment.


What is the weight of the factory recoil spring on the 48? I tried looking it up but I figured it's around ~17 pounds.

[kitten_frenzy]

Gonna be an expensive month coming up.

So what do we like for a compact red dot? RMSc?

507k for me if I end up getting one.

[srcochran49]

A G48 MOS with rail is exactly what I have been waiting for.

[Navin Johnson]

Factory installed?

[ECVMatt]

Here are some high quality pictures...

https://www.gunsweek.com/en/pistols/news/new-glock-43x-and-glock-48-pistols-now-rails

I won't be trading my 43 or 48, but it is nice to see this option, especailly the MOS added.

[MGW]

What is the weight of the factory recoil spring on the 48? I tried looking it up but I figured it's around ~17 pounds.

I don’t know but would like to find out.

[GJM]

My only issue with the 48 is the recoil spring rate feels off to me. My guess is it’s over sprung for the slightly heavier slide compared to the 43x. I think a little lighter spring would really wake that pistol up. Stoeger’s pro shop has an aftermarket solution for the 48 now and I’ve been really tempted to pick up another 48 to experiment with. Unfortunately, or fortunately for my pocket book, I haven’t been able to find a new all black 48. If a railed MOS model is hitting soon I might just hold off. Unless I find a deal on a used 48. Unlikely in the current environment.


Mine as well.

You bitches need to try some +P ammo instead of the PMC 115! :p

[MGW]

You bitches need to try some +P ammo instead of the PMC 115! :p

My hands are to soft for that +P stuff.

[Xhado]

Here are some high quality pictures...

https://www.gunsweek.com/en/pistols/news/new-glock-43x-and-glock-48-pistols-now-rails

I won't be trading my 43 or 48, but it is nice to see this option, especailly the MOS added.

Those are the ones released in Europe (note the date it was posted).

The ones about to hit the US market will be cut for an optic.

[rob_s]

Those are the ones released in Europe (note the date it was posted).

The ones about to hit the US market will be cut for an optic.

Fucking hell I hope not...

[HeavyDuty]

Fucking hell I hope not...

Fucking hell I hope so. I don’t need the rail, but want the optic cut.

[rob_s]

Fucking hell I hope so. I don’t need the rail, but want the optic cut.

Total opposite. Optic cut is silly, rail is useful.

But I’m sure Glock is just trying to put out one gun, at a higher price, that will accommodate both our wants.

[call_me_ski]

Both are completely unobtrusive to those that aren’t using them.

[Joe Mac]

The optic cut is in fact obtrusive, if you wish to use one of the many rear sights (such as my preferred Ameriglo) that will end up hanging off the back of the slide because of the damn cut.. :(

[GJM]

While I don’t know what configurations Glock will offer, for every person that wants a railed, optic ready slimline Glock, there will be another that only wants the railed lower, and another that only wants an optic upper but no rail. All of those people post on gun forums. Of course, while forum participants are particular, there will be 100 people for each of the above three, that won’t know the difference as to whether their slimline has a rail or optic cut, and will keep the OEM plastic sights.

If Glock doesn’t make your ideal variant, I am sure there will be a thriving business selling the new uppers and lowers on Gunbroker to those who want just want they want.

[HeavyDuty]

My forecast, based on nothing: Glock will do a change to rails on the 43x and 48 which will replace the non railed versions, and they will offer additional MOS versions of both (I hope - I’m more interested in a 43 length slide with a RDS than I am a 48.)

[JHC]

You bitches need to try some +P ammo instead of the PMC 115! :p

SAVAGE! Gratuitously savage! :D

Hey I thought the guns won’t run well long term with +P? Wait that was with aftermarket plus base plates and such. Disregard. ;)

[Xhado]

The optic cut is in fact obtrusive, if you wish to use one of the many rear sights (such as my preferred Ameriglo) that will end up hanging off the back of the slide because of the damn cut.. :(

You're making an assumption that Glock is going to have it cut farther to the rear like the MOS.

The few pictures that are out shows there is no plate system in use, making it a direct mill cut. It doesn't need to be so long to accommodate a wide range of MRDS, so there is no need to shift the dovetail rearward.

Most likely the rear sight dovetail is in the same spot as they regular slimline Glocks.

[HeavyDuty]

You're making an assumption that Glock is going to have it cut farther to the rear like the MOS.

The few pictures that are out shows there is no plate system in use, making it a direct mill cut. It doesn't need to be so long to accommodate a wide range of MRDS, so there is no need to shift the dovetail rearward.

Most likely the rear sight dovetail is in the same spot as they regular slimline Glocks.

It is difficult to be absolutely sure, but the pics I saw seemed to have the rear sight dovetail moved to the rear.

[GJM]

SAVAGE! Gratuitously savage! :D

Hey I thought the guns won’t run well long term with +P? Wait that was with aftermarket plus base plates and such. Disregard. ;)

Mostly I was focused on trolling you both, but the data around ammo and reliability, was to my recollection, concerning the 43, 43X and 365. My assumption was that related to slide velocity in the short barrels. With a 4.1 barrel in the 48, I have no idea if the 48 would be sensitive like the shorter pistols.



You're making an assumption that Glock is going to have it cut farther to the rear like the MOS.

The few pictures that are out shows there is no plate system in use, making it a direct mill cut. It doesn't need to be so long to accommodate a wide range of MRDS, so there is no need to shift the dovetail rearward.

Most likely the rear sight dovetail is in the same spot as they regular slimline Glocks.

I was eyeballing an enlargement of the Shane Coley screenshot and it appeared that the rear sight was just a smidge further back on the rear of the slide. Probably need to inspect a production version to know for sure.

[23JAZ]

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Well shit!

[Sammy1]

Glock FB page, railed optics ready 43X & 48 coming soon!