Out The Front (OTF) knives

[rob_s]

And then there’s this “signature series” that is clearly listed as an 85 (“UTX-85 II”) but is shorter and lighter still than the other two?

Microtech UTX-85 II T/E Signature Series Tanto OTF Knife Black (3" Two-Tone) (https://www.bladehq.com/item--Microtech-UTX-85-II-TE-Signature--138637)

[BobLoblaw]

Anyone ever notice the UTX-85 isn’t a standard size? An inch in overall length difference? And over a 1/2” difference in closed length? Maybe the larger one isn’t *really* a UTX-85?

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That top one is way off. These were eyeballed with a ruler:
7 1/2" OAL
4 7/16" handle (including glass breaker)
3 3/16" blade

[rob_s]

That top one is way off. These were eyeballed with a ruler:
7 1/2" OAL
4 7/16" handle (including glass breaker)
3 3/16" blade

of the exact same model? I pulled those dimensions from the Blade HQ listing. A similar model on a different vendor's page (https://southernedges.com/collections/microtecg-ultratech-tanto-edge-automatic-out-the-front-knife) has similar dimensions to what Blade HQ has.

I think the issue is taht this appears to be a separate model, not technically a "UTX-85". I see various abbreviations on the UTX-85-ish models like "S/E" and "T/E" and "D/E" that I'm not clear on meaning.

[LittleLebowski]

With Virginia changing their knife laws, this thread could cost me.

[BobLoblaw]

of the exact same model? I pulled those dimensions from the Blade HQ listing. A similar model on a different vendor's page (https://southernedges.com/collections/microtecg-ultratech-tanto-edge-automatic-out-the-front-knife) has similar dimensions to what Blade HQ has.

I think the issue is taht this appears to be a separate model, not technically a "UTX-85". I see various abbreviations on the UTX-85-ish models like "S/E" and "T/E" and "D/E" that I'm not clear on meaning.

Those are blade shape designations (single edge, tanto edge, double edge). I don't know about the special runs but the production model 85s should use the same handles unless Microtech is one of those companies that succeeds in spite of themselves. Mine is a regular single edge drop point so I can't speak to the other blade lengths.

[Clusterfrack]

With Virginia changing their knife laws, this thread could cost me.

OTF knives are awesome. They take what used to be a simple device and make it
-Expensive
-Complicated
-Require regular cleaning and lubrication
-Frightening to civilized humans for no good reason
-Impossible for most females to operate

The last two alone make them worth owning.

[BobLoblaw]

OTF knives are awesome. They take what used to be a simple device and make it
-Expensive
-Complicated
-Require regular cleaning and lubrication
-Frightening to civilized humans for no good reason
-Impossible for most females to operate

The last two alone make them worth owning.

Yeah but it does the CLICK CLACK thing my lizard brain can't comprehend

[Clusterfrack]

Yeah but it does the CLICK CLACK thing my lizard brain can't comprehend

Except for the Deadlock which quietly goes “snick”.

[Clusterfrack]

Two new OTF purchases, very inexpensive. LittleLebowski, note how respectful I am being to your wallet in this post. It's only going to cost you about $20.

Outdoor Edge SlideWinder (https://amazon.com/dp/B078ZLDG89) $11
Screwpop Ron's Utility Knife 3.0 (https://amazon.com/dp/B00UZHT432) $10

Outdoor Edge is ergonomic and easy to grip. The pocket clip seems like overkill, and I'll probably remove it. It's well-made and seems like it will hold up to hard use. However, I predict that it will require occasional disassembly for cleaning out gunk from the mechanism.

Screwpop Ron's Utility Knife is a simple and elegant design. A locking bar engages the blade notches, and a rare earth magnet holds the blade in place until you move it with your thumb. I will be adding Dragongrip (https://amazon.com/Dragon-Grips-Clear-Hexagons/dp/B07DD5XRXF/) decals to one side of the knife. I'm going to buy these (with serrated blades; see below) as holiday gifts for countless people. Highly recommended.

Both knives accept serrated blades (https://amazon.com/dp/B07117FHLQ), greatly enhancing their utility.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220812/b05cfa4648f86ba4fe6c816c49c2e9bf.jpg

[rob_s]

Turns out that (a) the utx-70 is so small that I don’t know that I need or want to replace it anymore and (b) definitely don’t want a silver screw, so it’s kinda not a big deal, but I shoulda read the listing here more closely as these things clearly have no chance of fitting this tiny thing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254951670774

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[BWT]

OTF knives are awesome. They take what used to be a simple device and make it
-Expensive
-Complicated
-Require regular cleaning and lubrication
-Frightening to civilized humans for no good reason
-Impossible for most females to operate

The last two alone make them worth owning.

That’s what I was getting at, but didn’t communicate as well on the last page. They’re definitely cool and mine are going nowhere. But it’s a bit of a different animal. But a can of rem-oil and you should be good. Periodically lubricate and you should be solid. Clean it off before retracting, etc. stuff you should do with any knife but have to do with an OTF.

[LittleLebowski]

Talk to me about Hogue OTFs.

[Clusterfrack]

Talk to me about Hogue OTFs.

I've never handled one. The overall design looks solid. From what I've read, Hogue measures up well against other top tier production OTFs (Microtech, Benchmade, and Guardian). Devil's in the details especially with OTFs, so I'd like to hear from someone with hands on experience.

[LittleLebowski]

I’ve got friends I don’t deserve. Microtech en route from a good friend, but fuck him, I’m surprising him with two Milwaukee power tools instead of one.

[willie]

I have two but nothing like Clusterfrack's high dollar jobs. My wife hid both because I play with them too much.

[Totem Polar]

Except for the Deadlock which quietly goes “snick”.

https://c.tenor.com/GrNyF-4pvRsAAAAd/archer-stop-my-penis-can-only-get-so-erect.gif

[Clusterfrack]

Literally 30 minutes after I ordered another Screwpop Ron's Utility Knife 3.0 (https://amazon.com/dp/B00UZHT432) because mine was lost, Mrs. CF located it stuck to the inside of the dryer drum. "Is this knife magnetic?" Yep. A small but powerful magnet retains the blade when the locking bar is raised.

[rob_s]

Literally 30 minutes after I ordered another Screwpop Ron's Utility Knife 3.0 (https://amazon.com/dp/B00UZHT432) because mine was lost, Mrs. CF located it stuck to the inside of the dryer drum. "Is this knife magnetic?" Yep. A small but powerful magnet retains the blade when the locking bar is raised.

It appears that they even advertise the magnet as a feature, allowing you to store it in various locations. Something that now has me considering one (?some?).

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[willie]

https://c.tenor.com/GrNyF-4pvRsAAAAd/archer-stop-my-penis-can-only-get-so-erect.gif

I feel his pain as Bill Clinton said.

[Up1911Fan]

I've been looking for the "right" Hera for awhile now, finally found a good one. All black, SE, Frag handle. Hopefully here by the weekend.

[23JAZ]

I've been looking for the "right" Hera for awhile now, finally found a good one. All black, SE, Frag handle. Hopefully here by the weekend.
I saw those. They just released them. Pretty sweet looking knife. Love the frag. One of these days I’ll pick up a delta frag UT in TE.

[Clusterfrack]

Manual OTF from Kershaw (https://kershaw.kaiusa.com/interstellar.html)... interesting...

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[Sensei]

Hit that like button if your wife has frantically called you to come back to the airport because the chick left her $300 Micotech in her purse…

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[Clusterfrack]

Hit that like button if your wife has frantically called you to come back to the airport because the chick left her $300 Micotech in her purse…


LOL! That might beat my Girl#1, who got stopped at TSA with not one, not two, but three knives.

[Cookie Monster]

Hit that like button if your wife has frantically called you to come back to the airport because the chick left her $300 Micotech in her purse…

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I shipped or hid so many knives in planters at the airport that I started to deweapon at the house and travel to the airport without.

[Cookie Monster]

LOL! That might beat my Girl#1, who got stopped at TSA with not one, not two, but three knives.

It makes me happy that there are woman like that out in the world.

[Sensei]

His on the left; hers on the right…

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[Sensei]

Not an OTF but still a Microtech nonetheless…

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Set up for horizontal OWB carry…usually at the small of my back unless I’ll be seated a lot.

[D-der]

I'd been pretty happy with my UTX-85 TE so a few months ago I picked
up a lightly used Ultratech SE, only showing a little wear on the pocket
clip, otherwise it seemed pretty much as new.
After carrying it daily for a couple month's, it proved to suit most of
my need's pretty well, I really like the knife and for my daily use prefer the SE.
I found that every once in a while mainly if the knife was in a few degrees of
horizontal , sounds weird but true, the blade wouldn't fully retract so...
after filling out an on line form with Microtech I UPS'ed it out, I've gotta say
I'm impressed, when they received the knife I was notified and sent photos
of the knife including serial # and told they'd check it out and notify me by email
when ready, if there was a charge etc.it would take 4-6 weeks.
Pretty much four weeks to the day, the knife was delivered, packed in a new
box with literature as it was new, invoice stated Day Spa treatment, sharpen
and replace rear spring no charge, I sent in a sharp knife but this is hair popping,
we'll see if the edge is still near the 18-20 degree's, but I'm pretty damned impressed.

[JCS]

I picked up my first OTF... Not sure how I feel about it. The button is really stiff and I already know if I pull it out in public it's going to freak people out lol

PDW Audax
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[Skullybones]

https://youtu.be/wFwVvoA6Xxs?t=129


I can attest that beating the living hell out of an Ultratech left me with a usable knife, though much sloppier lockup and with heavy deformation around the blade end opening. Silly I know, but sometimes it’s just nice to F something up. Gave it to a friend before total destruction ensued.

Ultimately the Microtech OTF couldn’t handle the weeks living outdoors with the silty grit that is common around these parts. I did really enjoy the one handed operation and the endless fidgeting that the OTF offers.

BTW that Hawk is a beautiful design. I’d like to feel an OTF that locks up tight.

Glad to be back around perusing the forum and soaking up knowledge. Back to the shadows, just thought I’d add color to the torture test topic.

Jared

[Clusterfrack]

I can attest that beating the living hell out of an Ultratech left me with a usable knife, though much sloppier lockup and with heavy deformation around the blade end opening. Silly I know, but sometimes it’s just nice to F something up. Gave it to a friend before total destruction ensued.

Ultimately the Microtech OTF couldn’t handle the weeks living outdoors with the silty grit that is common around these parts. I did really enjoy the one handed operation and the endless fidgeting that the OTF offers.

BTW that Hawk is a beautiful design. I’d like to feel an OTF that locks up tight.

Glad to be back around perusing the forum and soaking up knowledge. Back to the shadows, just thought I’d add color to the torture test topic.

Jared

Thanks for posting about your hard-use Ultratech. That's interesting about the wear at the opening. Do you have a picture?

[Skullybones]

Thanks for posting about your hard-use Ultratech. That's interesting about the wear at the opening. Do you have a picture?


No photos of the opening. Was hard to capture a good shot of it with the black anodized handle. I would say it was an ~.005” lip created top and bottom of the opening. As would be expected with excessive batoning. It’s living a good warehouse life now.

Loved the M390 steel though. Had a decent factory edge and an even better edge with a little work. As much as OTF doesn’t fit my use case, this thread is dangerously tempting my willpower.

[rob_s]

I guess this is new?

Pocket clip is interesting, if nothing else.

Keyshaw Livewire (https://kershaw.kaiusa.com/livewire.html)


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[willie]

My newly acquired Boker OTF occasionally fails to lock when opened. I could send it to the importer and pay $15 to inspect and repair but decided to loan it to my young mentee who will cycle it a million times. Either the tool will self destruct or wear in. If it self destructs, I then will return the knife. I have several Bokers and like them. My opinion of OTF's is that one has to spend a couple hundred $ to obtain a 1st class knife that will lock up firmly. I know a one arm paper hanger who uses and swears by an OTF.:)

[rob_s]

Neat little new Benchmade OTF

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Benchmade-Om-4850BK-DA-OTF--118577

[Up1911Fan]

Troodon Mini vs UTX-70 for a smaller/lighter/discreet option when I want something smaller than my Hera ( Troodon sized). Go.

[Clusterfrack]

Troodon Mini vs UTX-70 for a smaller/lighter/discreet option when I want something smaller than my Hera ( Troodon sized). Go.

Troodon Mini specs show a blade length of 1.90". The UTX-70 has a 2.4" blade. How small a blade do you want?

What about the Benchmade 2.5" OTF that rob_s posted above?


Neat little new Benchmade OTF

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Benchmade-Om-4850BK-DA-OTF--118577

[Up1911Fan]

Troodon Mini specs show a blade length of 1.90". The UTX-70 has a 2.4" blade. How small a blade do you want?

What about the Benchmade 2.5" OTF that rob_s posted above?


I want to stick with Microtech. The blade length is ok either way. Really just looking for a "j-frame" Microtech.

[Clusterfrack]

I want to stick with Microtech. The blade length is ok either way. Really just looking for a "j-frame" Microtech.

If it were me, I'd go with the UTX-70.

[walker2713]

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[Up1911Fan]

If it were me, I'd go with the UTX-70.

Just ordered a 70. May still get a mini Troodon to play with down the road.

[Clusterfrack]

John Wick 4, Hawk Deadlock OTF


https://youtu.be/gF6OvLdNGsI

[willie]

How does one clean an otf knife if it were dropped in mud or grime. I have two cheap ones that come with warnings that disassembly voids warranty.

[Clusterfrack]

How does one clean an otf knife if it were dropped in mud or grime. I have two cheap ones that come with warnings that disassembly voids warranty.

Here’s what I have done with my Microtechs. But my knives have never been super contaminated, so I can’t say whether it will work for you.

Spray RemOil into the hole, and let it drain out and flush the mechanism. Then blast with canned air. Repeat if necessary. It can help to have the blade in ‘neutral’, so you can slide it by hand to clean the action.

[D-der]

Here’s what I have done with my Microtechs. But my knives have never been super contaminated, so I can’t say whether it will work for you.

Spray RemOil into the hole, and let it drain out and flush the mechanism. Then blast with canned air. Repeat if necessary. It can help to have the blade in ‘neutral’, so you can slide it by hand to clean the action.

My Ultratech had gotten pretty sluggish and the Remoil flush just didn't get it done, I'd read that lighter fluid (napatha ?)would be a good option as it evaporates quickly and leaves no film behind. Giving the knife a through flushing with Ronsonol / blowing it out and following with the Remoil did the trick

[Clusterfrack]

My Ultratech had gotten pretty sluggish and the Remoil flush just didn't get it done, I'd read that lighter fluid (napatha ?)would be a good option as it evaporates quickly and leaves no film behind. Giving the knife a through flushing with Ronsonol / blowing it out and following with the Remoil did the trick

Good ideal. I might try non-chlorinated brake cleaner or Gunscrubber. Another option is rubbing alcohol.

Yet another option is disassembling the knife for cleaning. See below:


NOTE: opening your knife will void the warranty. Do not proceed unless you are comfortable handing small fiddly parts that cannot be replaced if lost.

My new-to-me Ultratech had a heavy and somewhat rough action (especially on opening), so I decided to try improving the action. I used a triangle bit from Amazon (https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B097J3ZJP5), sold by BladeHQ, and this disassembly video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKwAQE8GAX0

It's important to keep the tool perfectly vertical so you don't bugger the aluminum surrounding the screws.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220209/62e2ee95dd78c7e8b2d3f533680f08f0.jpg

Note how the angled "disconnector" at the rear of the slider interfaces with the rear sear. This is what affects the smoothness of the opening action.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220209/bd188559d1ab2038cf4375419904dd03.jpg

Here is the rear "disco" circled in red:
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The rear disco was very roughly machined.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220209/c0a59963c5351769310280c75f3e56f8.jpg

I polished it with a rotary tool, so machining marks are just barely visible.
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Reassembly was easy because I did not remove the sears. The action was noticeably improved! Note: do not overtighten the screws. There was some residual Loctite on the threads, so I just left it and reinstalled.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220209/ccca7d088910f06a4f8df7f489d8ddcc.jpg

[Up1911Fan]

A pretty cool Signature Series Combat Troodon should be here Thursday.

[Wyoming Shooter]

My Microtech UTX-85 quit firing without warning last week. Some blasts of non-chlorinated brake cleaner got it working. I think it might be best to do some periodic preventative cleaning on a regular basis. My knife gave no notice that it wasn't working, until it wasn't.

[Coal Train]

A pretty cool Signature Series Combat Troodon should be here Thursday.
I am really tempted by those but I just purchased a Signature Series Scarab 2.

[Clusterfrack]

I am really tempted by those but I just purchased a Signature Series Scarab 2.

This requires pictures.

[Coal Train]

This requires pictures.
Friday🤞🏼

[Coal Train]

A few of my older OTF’s. They have clearly not been carried enough.

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[Up1911Fan]

New Signature Series Combat Troodon Warhound arrived today. And a comparison pic with my Frag Hera. That's a DLC'd Microtech Kyroh Mini propping up the CT.
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[Clusterfrack]

New Signature Series Combat Troodon Warhound arrived today. And a comparison pic with my Frag Hera. That's a DLC'd Microtech Kyroh Mini propping up the CT.
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I really like that blade profile.

[Up1911Fan]

I really like that blade profile.

Same. They're a couple hundred dollar premium over a standard CT. But life's short and sometimes thinking something is bad ass is enough of a reason.

[Coal Train]

Same. They're a couple hundred dollar premium over a standard CT. But life's short and sometimes thinking something is bad ass is enough of a reason.
How do you like the Hera? Specifically compared to the Combat Troodon?

[Up1911Fan]

How do you like the Hera? Specifically compared to the Combat Troodon?

The Hera is probably my favorite knife ever. I prefer mid size guns and knives. The CT is more of a novelty piece for me. I think it's cool. It will get carried a handful of times a year. The Hera is in the Troodon/UTX-85 size range, which is about perfect for me. I also strongly prefer the handle shape and the pocket clip is way better than a standard MT clip.

[Coal Train]

The Hera is probably my favorite knife ever. I prefer mid size guns and knives. The CT is more of a novelty piece for me. I think it's cool. It will get carried a handful of times a year. The Hera is in the Troodon/UTX-85 size range, which is about perfect for me. I also strongly prefer the handle shape and the pocket clip is way better than a standard MT clip.
Thank you. I like the length of Ultratech but this “height” just feels tiny in my hand.

[Coal Train]

This requires pictures.

Scarab II is beastly but initial impressions are very positive. Easter to actuate that my Ultratechs.

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[Up1911Fan]

A month or so ago I posted debating between the UTX-70 and the Troodon Mini as a "J-Frame" OTF. Something small, light, easy to carry all the time. I had went with the UTX-70 and just couldn't warm up to it. The length was good but the handle was just to narrow. It's about the size of a chap stick tube. I ended up selling it and getting the Troodon Mini. Much better for me. Fills the hand better while still completely fitting inside the coin pocket of a pair of jeans.

[RevolverRob]

My Microtech UTX-85 quit firing without warning last week. Some blasts of non-chlorinated brake cleaner got it working. I think it might be best to do some periodic preventative cleaning on a regular basis. My knife gave no notice that it wasn't working, until it wasn't.

So far I've only had blow them out with compressed air and oil lightly with a food safe oil (silicone, usually). Which is what the Microtech manual advises.

If I have 2-3 misfires, that's what I do. No big deal with misfires, IMO, as Clusterfrack noted if the knife doesn't fire, just flick your wrist and sling the blade out.

--
RE: Size the UTX-85 is the perfect sized knife to me.

[Coal Train]

Happened across a “deal” on a Deadlock Model C. My initial impression is that it is a rare instance of something that lives up to the hype.

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[Clusterfrack]

Happened across a “deal” on a Deadlock Model C. My initial impression is that it is a rare instance of something that lives up to the hype.

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Outstanding. Looking forward to hearing more. My Model B is similarly expectation exceeding.

[Coal Train]

Outstanding. Looking forward to hearing more. My Model B is similarly expectation exceeding.

Very cool about the Model B. Hopefully someday I will run across one so I can compare the two.

A couple initial thoughts:

Good:
*Ergos may be the best of any knife I have owned. Size is baby bear just right. No hot spots and seems to work well in multiple holds. And fits well in the pocket. Seems to have reached a nice stage of evolution and is a well thought out design.

*Fit/finish is extremely good.

*Pleasing aesthetics.

*It locks up as solid as any folder I have owned.

*Easiest action on any OTF I have owned.


Meh:
* I like/don’t like the pocket clip. I like the spring design and that it should help save pockets. It is easy to use and causes no hot spots. And it seems to hold the knife very secure. However, I wish the clip was thinner like a standard stamped clip. Since I have learned to stop caring and love the j-frame, I carry a knife in the back, right pocket and the bulk of the clip can be a bit annoying.

*It could be a bit sharper. I like the hollow grind. And the double edge is highly visually appealing but I think a single edge would work better.

Less Good:
*Availability. I am largely fine with the direct from maker price. It is well made and I like the fact that it is made in the U.S. It would be nice if the Hawks could upgrade/expand their “factory” so they could produce more of these (along with MUDDs). But seeing what other manufactures are able to do now in terms of CNC machine precision it would appear that these could be more quickly produced. The Hawks have been working towards this but it does not appear they are there yet (and maybe they don’t want to get there).

I’m sure I have forgotten something but at any rate, I am glad to own it and plan to put it to good use.

[tusk212]

Way back in 2020 I purchased a Ultratech from the Microtech service personnel program just because I had never had an auto despite being pretty deep into the knife world. I received it, thought it was pretty cool, and promptly put it in my knife drawer. Within the last few months, I've started carrying it and have really come to see it's benefits. Usually if I need a knife at work other than cutting open a box, I need it NOW and usually one handed. There are plenty of folders that fit that bill, but the OTF earn their keep with the one handed closure. They also carry slimmer and will not open accidentally, all pluses in my book. I'm almost embarrassed to say I know have the Ultratech, a UTX-85, 2 Combat Troodons, a L-UDT, and a Guardian Tactical Recon 40. I'd say the bug had bit me hard.

[BWT]

I can’t stop breaking stuff. Daily carry Microtech UTX-85 broke. Something in the spring mechanism.

I went to fire it and I heard a click. It will slide in and out with the slider up for out and down for in.

I submitted a case for the knife - I’ll mail it in.

The take away is use a fixed blade if it’s serious self-defense. Or maybe a flipper.

[Clusterfrack]

I can’t stop breaking stuff. Daily carry Microtech UTX-85 broke. Something in the spring mechanism.

I went to fire it and I heard a click. It will slide in and out with the slider up for out and down for in.

I submitted a case for the knife - I’ll mail it in.

The take away is use a fixed blade if it’s serious self-defense. Or maybe a flipper.

Will the blade lock open by inertia?

Approx how many cycles on the action?

[BWT]

Will the blade lock open by inertia?

Approx how many cycles on the action?

Thousands. I can’t even fathom a guess - I’d say north of 10,000.

If you push the slider forward - it does act as basically a gravity blade and stay out (sometimes).

I like the OTF knife don’t get me wrong. But if it’s serious usage - I carry a clinch pick and received a Winkler belt knife for my birthday.

I’ll see if I can post a video if that would be helpful. Microtech has a lifetime warranty - so no issues. I just want to set realistic expectations for folks and report data.

ETA:

When you pull the slider back it will usually retract. It was stuck open tonight for a short time. I went ahead and filed a warranty claim. I consider Microtech one of the best if not the best OTF knife makers - I’m just giving feedback on my limited scope.

I carried a ZT 350 (lost it) for 8+ years and its spring assisted part of the flipper greatly fatigued. But, you could still easily flip it open with the flipper or thumb studs.

You just have to know the limitations of a particular design. OTF are a more complex knife and design.

[Clusterfrack]

Thousands. I can’t even fathom a guess - I’d say north of 10,000.

If you push the slider forward - it does act as basically a gravity blade and stay out (sometimes).

I like the OTF knife don’t get me wrong. But if it’s serious usage - I carry a clinch pick and received a Winkler belt knife for my birthday.

I’ll see if I can post a video if that would be helpful. Microtech has a lifetime warranty - so no issues. I just want to set realistic expectations for folks and report data.

That's a decent number of cycles. My OTFs get an average of no more than 1 cycle per day, so hopefully I'll be ok for a while.

Thanks for testing the failure mode for us. Your observations confirm what I suspected after looking over the mechanical design: mainspring failure will still allow the knife to be used as a gravity blade because the locking gates are independent from the mainspring. I think that makes it a good serious use knife--better than some folders that won't lock open if the locking bar spring breaks.

Of course, fixed blades FTW in general.

[BWT]

That's a decent number of cycles. My OTFs get an average of no more than 1 cycle per day, so hopefully I'll be ok for a while.

Thanks for testing the failure mode for us. Your observations confirm what I suspected after looking over the mechanical design: mainspring failure will still allow the knife to be used as a gravity blade because the locking gates are independent from the mainspring. I think that makes it a good serious use knife--better than some folders that won't lock open if the locking bar spring breaks.

Of course, fixed blades FTW in general.

You know - if I had to guess I’d say maybe over 20,000 fires? I’m a fidgety person and I’ve carried it everywhere just about daily for three years.

It is nice it turns into basically a locking / unlocking gravity knife. I will say I just didn’t want it to slide open in my pocket and was leaving for the beach for a week. I just went back to work today and had left it on my desk.

[Leroy Suggs]

Every thing I am seeing about the Kershaw Livewire males me think it may be a better choice than the Microtech.
I have one in the cart and still deciding yes or no.

Anyone have a Livewire? Clusterfrack

[Clusterfrack]

Every thing I am seeing about the Kershaw Livewire males me think it may be a better choice than the Microtech.
I have one in the cart and still deciding yes or no.

Anyone have a Livewire? Clusterfrack

You could be our Guinea pig?

[Leroy Suggs]

What's that saying "when pigs fly"?:D:D

[Totem Polar]

https://i.etsystatic.com/40754001/r/il/9bff0f/4591769246/il_1588xN.4591769246_r8qe.jpg

[Leroy Suggs]

You could be our Guinea pig?

I have decided that I could not tolerate the blade play that is inherent in the OTF.
I ain't getting one.
Someone else will have to be the Guinea pig.:cool:

[rob_s]

my daily carry utx-70 isn't locking open.

Any thoughts on what I might do to fix that?

[CleverNickname]

my daily carry utx-70 isn't locking open.

Any thoughts on what I might do to fix that?

Open it up, disassemble it, clean it, verify all parts are in working order, reassemble?

[Clusterfrack]

my daily carry utx-70 isn't locking open.

Any thoughts on what I might do to fix that?

The locking gate may have crud in it. Put the knife in 'neutral' so the blade can be moved by hand. Spray a lot of RemOil into the hole, and let it drip back out the front. Blast with canned or compressed air. If a few reps of that procedure that don't fix it, you may need to send it back to Microtech or buy a tool and look inside. See this post (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?42266-Out-The-Front-(OTF)-knives&p=1318993&viewfull=1#post1318993).

[rob_s]

Open it up, disassemble it, clean it, verify all parts are in working order, reassemble?

Precisely what I'm trying to avoid, lacking the tool to remove the screws and any desire to void the warranty.

[CleverNickname]

Precisely what I'm trying to avoid, lacking the tool to remove the screws and any desire to void the warranty.
When I had a similar problem with my Ultratech awhile back, I tried the "blow it out with compressed air and squirt some lube in" process, but I got much better results from disassembly. A tool off Amazon to remove the screws is ~$10.

[rob_s]

When I had a similar problem with my Ultratech awhile back, I tried the "blow it out with compressed air and squirt some lube in" process, but I got much better results from disassembly. A tool off Amazon to remove the screws is ~$10.

if it comes to that I'll likely contact the manufacturer and send it back.

I'm trying very hard to limit the amount of fiddle-fart I have to engage in these days. doesn't hold the same entertainment value it once did with time a precious commodity these days.

[Clusterfrack]

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Boker-Plus-Slike-Exclusive-Manual--192873

https://www.bladehq.com/imgs/knives/out-the-front-automatics/boker-otf/Boker-Plus-Exclusive-Slike-Manual-OTF-Knife-Green-Titanium-2in-Satin-BHQ-192873-td.jpg

[Leroy Suggs]

Clusterfrack How do you open it one handed when the button is at the rear like that?

[Clusterfrack]

Clusterfrack How do you open it one handed when the button is at the rear like that?

No clue…

[rd62]

I saw that one today too.

I wonder if it would deploy with a good flick of the wrist?

[Totem Polar]

Reverse grip and gravity drop after thumbing the button? I’ll probably find out, since this might fit my state’s oddball knife restrictions. Or not. I’ll know if/when I see one… :rolleyes:

[D-der]

my daily carry utx-70 isn't locking open.

Any thoughts on what I might do to fix that?

I've found that a couple of good flush's with lighter fluid does a good job at getting the goo out,
then blow it out good and a little Rem oil...works on my UTX and Ultratech.
Since I've started carrying an LCR or J frame in my strong hand pocket more often, I swapped the
clip on my UTX-70 Tanto to a left hand carry, makes for a pretty nice support hand edc, not too big,
not too small...

[rob_s]

The locking gate may have crud in it. Put the knife in 'neutral' so the blade can be moved by hand. Spray a lot of RemOil into the hole, and let it drip back out the front. Blast with canned or compressed air. If a few reps of that procedure that don't fix it, you may need to send it back to Microtech or buy a tool and look inside. See this post (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?42266-Out-The-Front-(OTF)-knives&p=1318993&viewfull=1#post1318993).

This solved it. Thanks!

[Mirolynmonbro]

Cluster, what are you thoughts on the bayonet style blade on microtech? It's still double edge but has a flat spot on the back

[Clusterfrack]

Cluster, what are you thoughts on the bayonet style blade on microtech? It's still double edge but has a flat spot on the back

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I like the look. For a defensive knife, it seems good. Those thin D/E blades have really steep grinds, so that makes cutting and sharpening less ideal. I compromised on the full-serrated/smooth D/E.

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[Mirolynmonbro]

I like the look. For a defensive knife, it seems good. Those thin D/E blades have really steep grinds, so that makes cutting and sharpening less ideal. I compromised on the full-serrated/smooth D/E.



I like the idea of D/E in an OTF. I have a Spyderco with a single edge, but I don't have a d/e ... Yet.

[UNK]

I have a question. I want to buy one of these Microtechs for a Christmas Present this guy likes knives but isnt into training.
Some of the buttons are on the side, some on the edge. Does it make any difference?
Are all of their knives automatic on retraction?
Aside from legalities is there any reason to not get a double edge?

[mrozowjj]

I have a question. I want to buy one of these Microtechs for a Christmas Present this guy likes knives but isnt into training.
Some of the buttons are on the side, some on the edge. Does it make any difference?
Are all of their knives automatic on retraction?
Aside from legalities is there any reason to not get a double edge?

Switch placement doesn't really make a difference really just comes down to preference and how you hold the knife. I prefer a side button but I'm right handed and some of the knives you can't reverse the pocket clip. The top button is a bit more ambi so it seems to be prefered by lefties for that reason. It also seems to be prefered for a double edged knife so that the switch isn't lined up with the cutting edge so that if your thumb slips you don't slip onto the blade.

A double edge is often more expensive and will be harder to sharpen.

There are double action and single action autos. The double action knives you use the switch to open and close the knife. On a single action OTF it's generally a button and the blade is kept under spring tension the whole time, the button releases the spring shoots the knife out, to close it you need to pull the spring back yourself. Not a microtech but this is a quick video of a single action so you can see what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F664vtmusoE

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I have a question. I want to buy one of these Microtechs for a Christmas Present this guy likes knives but isnt into training.
Some of the buttons are on the side, some on the edge. Does it make any difference?
Are all of their knives automatic on retraction?
Aside from legalities is there any reason to not get a double edge?

Never mind. I found an orange Dirac de and went ahead and got it.

[UNK]

Switch placement doesn't really make a difference really just comes down to preference and how you hold the knife. I prefer a side button but I'm right handed and some of the knives you can't reverse the pocket clip. The top button is a bit more ambi so it seems to be prefered by lefties for that reason. It also seems to be prefered for a double edged knife so that the switch isn't lined up with the cutting edge so that if your thumb slips you don't slip onto the blade.

A double edge is often more expensive and will be harder to sharpen.

There are double action and single action autos. The double action knives you use the switch to open and close the knife. On a single action OTF it's generally a button and the blade is kept under spring tension the whole time, the button releases the spring shoots the knife out, to close it you need to pull the spring back yourself. Not a microtech but this is a quick video of a single action so you can see what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F664vtmusoE

I think we posted at the same time thanks for the response.

[Odin Bravo One]

OTF- fidget spinners for dudes.

[Clusterfrack]

OTF- fidget spinners for dudes.

I'm going to carry my Deadlock today just for you :D

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240527/bb91a7a7d8d01a00408a5becd62e6622.jpg

[mrozowjj]

OTF- fidget spinners for dudes.

To be fair you can make a fidget spinner cool by adding blades to it. See the classic 80s movie Krull

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[shane45]

I like edge mounted switches. Im always climbing past or brushing up against stuff and dont want the side mounted switch triggered in my pocket.

[UNK]

Christmas shopping is done for one person
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[Mirolynmonbro]

I got a sweet deal on a utx 85 tanto. It's amazing.

[Odin Bravo One]

I didn’t say I didn’t have one…..

[BWT]

Interesting cool anecdote about Microtech knives. I was laying next to my son reading bed time stories, talking, etc., etc. with my 5 year old per normal. My knife clip must have pulled the knife out of my pocket. Anyway he can’t open the knife it requires too much spring tension. Neither of my boys can.

Kind of a blessing in disguise in a way. I remember a guy used to carry an HK P7 just for that reason if a kid didn’t have the strength for the squeeze cock or a bad guy didn’t comprehend how to make it fire it could be a safety.

Pretty cool.

[Clusterfrack]

Interesting cool anecdote about Microtech knives. I was laying next to my son reading bed time stories, talking, etc., etc. with my 5 year old per normal. My knife clip must have pulled the knife out of my pocket. Anyway he can’t open the knife it requires too much spring tension. Neither of my boys can.

Kind of a blessing in disguise in a way. I remember a guy used to carry an HK P7 just for that reason if a kid didn’t have the strength for the squeeze cock or a bad guy didn’t comprehend how to make it fire it could be a safety.

Pretty cool.

None of the 3 adult females in my family can open my Microtechs with one hand--only with both thumbs and a lot of frustration.

[D-der]

I got a sweet deal on a utx 85 tanto. It's amazing.

My 85 Tanto is one of my favorite's, very handy and useful.
I've swapped the clip for left pocket carry when there's a snub in my right...
which is becoming pretty common these days.

[Odin Bravo One]

Toldja I had one…. 122529

[Clusterfrack]

Toldja I had one…. 122529

That looks legal in most states

[LittleLebowski]

I’m antsy for a new OTF, looking for new hotness in stock. I’ve got 2 Microtechs, want something different. Not a fan of serrations, I do like a place to rest my thumb.

[Sensei]

None of the 3 adult females in my family can open my Microtechs with one hand--only with both thumbs and a lot of frustration.

The Gen3 Microtechs are much easier to open. I purchased a Gen3 Combat Troodon last month and it is a perfect opening weight.

[Clusterfrack]

I’m antsy for a new OTF, looking for new hotness in stock. I’ve got 2 Microtechs, want something different. Not a fan of serrations, I do like a place to rest my thumb.

Hmm. Kershaw has some interesting OTFs. I’m curious about Benchmade as well.

[rob_s]

Looking forsomethingbogger than my utx70. Obvious choice is the 85, but sure would love to get something just a skosh larger.

Not sure I trust all these specs. Most are from bladehq but some don't pass the sniff test when laid out side by side like this.

The Uktratech kinda seems like the way to go but I think I need to finger bang one first.

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[maximus83]

Looking forsomethingbogger than my utx70. Obvious choice is the 85, but sure would love to get something just a skosh larger.

Not sure I trust all these specs. Most are from bladehq but some don't pass the sniff test when laid out side by side like this.

The Uktratech kinda seems like the way to go but I think I need to finger bang one first.

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Don't know if this helps, but I tried a number of the Microtechs you listed in a local store in my area (Northwest Knives in Meridian, ID -- great folks by the way). The Ultratech is what I went with, it seemed just the right all-around size for good grip, blade length, concealability, etc, without being too huge.

[maximus83]

I’m antsy for a new OTF, looking for new hotness in stock. I’ve got 2 Microtechs, want something different. Not a fan of serrations, I do like a place to rest my thumb.

Hey LL, did you ever find something you liked? I don't really need another OTF, but kind of interested in the same question. Similar size, price and quality level as Microtech is fine, but a different (better, maybe???) design with a smoother action.

[rob_s]

Don't know if this helps, but I tried a number of the Microtechs you listed in a local store in my area (Northwest Knives in Meridian, ID -- great folks by the way). The Ultratech is what I went with, it seemed just the right all-around size for good grip, blade length, concealability, etc, without being too huge.

I think I'm going to have to try and find a store with them so I can do the same.

The UTX-70 was PERFECT for dress pants, but the vibe has changed, I'm down a couple of belt sizes, and need new work pants so going more jean-style-khaki which can tolerate a bigger knife just not sure HOW big.

Plus, it's still an office/professional environment so not looking for a weapon of war (or, more accurately, something that LOOKS LIKE a weapon of war :p )

[rob_s]

Don't know if this helps, but I tried a number of the Microtechs you listed in a local store in my area (Northwest Knives in Meridian, ID -- great folks by the way). The Ultratech is what I went with, it seemed just the right all-around size for good grip, blade length, concealability, etc, without being too huge.

I think I'm going to have to try and find a store with them so I can do the same.

The UTX-70 was PERFECT for dress pants, but the vibe has changed, I'm down a couple of belt sizes, and need new work pants so going more jean-style-khaki (https://huckberry.com/store/flint-and-tinder/category/p/84410-365-pant-straight) which can tolerate a bigger knife just not sure HOW big.

Plus, it's still an office/professional environment so not looking for a weapon of war (or, more accurately, something that LOOKS LIKE a weapon of war :p )

[rob_s]

Looking forsomethingbogger than my utx70. Obvious choice is the 85, but sure would love to get something just a skosh larger.

Not sure I trust all these specs. Most are from bladehq but some don't pass the sniff test when laid out side by side like this.

The Uktratech kinda seems like the way to go but I think I need to finger bang one first.

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The below video, and screen grab from it, are only confusing me further. It looks to me like the overall difference between the 70 and 85 is much greater than the difference between the 85 and full-size Ultratech. Perhaps the 15% drop per model is in length only? not total volume? So, on the one hand, the 85 is a bit of a leap but on the other if you've leapt that far why not just make the last tiny hop? :D


https://youtube.com/shorts/t9b1GEtpiG8?si=48AjqtnK3yVvjdXu

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[Clusterfrack]

I have a UTX85 and and Ultratech. The d/e 85 is a whole lot of knife in a small package. I find myself carrying the full size more though.

[rob_s]

further confusing matters....

Microtech Hera II Mini - $261 (https://ncblade.com/products/microtech-knives-hera-ii-mini-apocalyptic-partial-serrated-recurve-m390mk-w-tan-handle-1705m-11apta?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=7fcfae88f&pr_rec_pid=8455611384036&pr_ref_pid=8439670309092&pr_seq=uniform)

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[D-der]

My TE Utx85 generally beats out my Plain edge Ultra tech, to me, the Ultratech seems a little dis proportionate handle to blade.

[mtnbkr]

Hmm. Kershaw has some interesting OTFs.
They only have one. They have many variations (color, blade shape, blade steel, etc), but they're all the same basic model.

I fondled one recently. Action was nice and it felt solid, but there was a lot of blade play IMO. I don't know how it compares to other quality OTFs because I don't get much hands-on with "good" ones, but it was more than I could tolerate (which is why I don't yet have an OTF). Online reviews have been good too. It might be a great OTF, but I just can't stand the sloppy feel of the blades in those knives.

Chris

[rob_s]

They only have one. They have many variations (color, blade shape, blade steel, etc), but they're all the same basic model.

I fondled one recently. Action was nice and it felt solid, but there was a lot of blade play IMO. I don't know how it compares to other quality OTFs because I don't get much hands-on with "good" ones, but it was more than I could tolerate (which is why I don't yet have an OTF). Online reviews have been good too. It might be a great OTF, but I just can't stand the sloppy feel of the blades in those knives.

Chris

Re:lockup


https://youtu.be/OVqvqFny-_U?si=aJWU6bGd2cc1vTxe

[mtnbkr]

Re:lockup


Thanks. Sounds promising that the good lockup is moving down the price scale, but these are still a bit steep for a toy. I may be in East TN next summer and will see if they're available at SMKW for a good price by then.

Chris

[maximus83]

https://youtu.be/OVqvqFny-_U?si=aJWU6bGd2cc1vTxe

Interesting. From the video, it looks like not only the lockup is improved, but also the smoothness of the action. If these improvements turn out to be real after I handle one, I'm in for another Ultratech. It would address the only minor concerns I've had with mine.

[mtnbkr]

So, I thought the new zero-play was only going to be offered in the kit with the light for the foreseeable future, but it looks like Microtech is releasing the Zero Play Ultratech next week as a standalone.

I'm sorely tempted. It's not "cheap" but it's not quite obnoxiously expensive.

Xmas shopping is mostly done. Maybe it's time to put something in the stocking for me. ;)

Chris

[Clusterfrack]

Got to check out the new Benchmade Mini-Claymore OTF. I like the textured polymer handle, and the action is nice. Blade play is comparable to Microtech.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241130/cfdfbe47ed5c33844d2daa9d318b94b1.jpg

[mtnbkr]

Got to check out the new Benchmade Mini-Claymore OTF. I like the textured polymer handle, and the action is nice. Blade play is comparable to Microtech.
I think the double-edged dagger might be an issue with VA laws, but I'll have to check.

I decided to hold off on any OTF purchases until we go to the Gatlinburg area this summer. I'll be able to hit BladeHQ on the way down and SMKW once there and fondle a bunch before I buy anything. That'll also give some time for the new ZBT Microtechs to be in people's hands and hopefully some online reviews.

Chris

[Navin Johnson]

$315 and f$&@ing D2……wow

[backtrail540]

I'm not an otf guy but the local shop has 30+ in their case at all times so i handled several yesterday.

New ultratech's boasting zero blade play were nice enough. The glycon was cool. Cypher ll was a good candidate were i going that direction. He even had some Marfione customs in the $1600 range with timascus and whatnot.

Not my cup of tea but plenty of good options if you dig the otf stuff. If you want to keep my local dealer, dealing, you can contribute to the coffers here -

https://blademansknifeshop.com/microtech-knives/

They're cool people and their dogs are great. A few cool blades as well.

[mtnbkr]

$315 and f$&@ing D2……wow

What's wrong with D2? I know it's not a modern wundersteel, but it was considered pretty good back in the day. I have several knives with D2 blades and they all seem to perform well, but I'm no Cliff Stamp.

Chris

[Clusterfrack]

$315 and f$&@ing D2……wow

I would have preferred Magnacut...

[Navin Johnson]

What's wrong with D2? I know it's not a modern wundersteel, but it was considered pretty good back in the day. I have several knives with D2 blades and they all seem to perform well, but I'm no Cliff Stamp.

Chris

BM puts s30/d2 in many expensive knives and it is very average by today’s standards

At least it is the powdered version

For a $350 list knife it seems like one should get better than a s30 class not very tough or corrosion resistant steel

[Navin Johnson]

I would have preferred Magnacut...

Personally, I think MC would make a great fixed blade steel if one wanted a stainless steel for that application

In a 3 inch blade I would be more concerned with edge retention than toughness and would rather see k390-s90v-20v-cru wear. Especially for the cost of the knife.

[UNK]

Christmas shopping is done for one person
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Christmas present delivered today. He loved everything about it. Color, size weight. He was as surprised as me how the blade operated. Thanks PFrs for the idea!

[paperman]

OTF adjacent gravity knife Blade HQ & Reate have been teaming up with their EXO-M with nitro v steel at a more budget friendly $130. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250108/feecb49132da8c93d8cf9022d36d20da.jpg


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[rob_s]

further confusing matters....

Microtech Hera II Mini - $261 (https://ncblade.com/products/microtech-knives-hera-ii-mini-apocalyptic-partial-serrated-recurve-m390mk-w-tan-handle-1705m-11apta?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=7fcfae88f&pr_rec_pid=8455611384036&pr_ref_pid=8439670309092&pr_seq=uniform)

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Still stuck in analysis (and don't-want-to-pay-the-price-ysis lol) paralysis here.

“Feelsl like the Hera II is the right answer but still would love to find someone local with a good selection to finger bang it before plunking down that much coin on a daily carry otf.

The 70 is great for dress pants but my new “office uniform” is a more jeans-style pant. Still a little too dressy for the Skeletool, but more room and structure available to support something a little larger.

Also, dumb as it may sound, I'm kinda on a copper/brass kick and I'd love that material aesthetic. The tan one in the pic is ok but a matte copper or bronze would be better.

[rob_s]

Best placed to shop for used microtechs?

[tusk212]

Best placed to shop for used microtechs?

If you do the Facebook thing, there's several Microtech groups (Microtech Knives, Microtech Knives Marketplace-Buy/Sell/Trade) that you can find decent deals in. Obviously be aware of scammers. Also, Bladeforums has a for sale section for automatic knives.

[backtrail540]

Best placed to shop for used microtechs?

If you do reddit, knifeswap has been great for me. I've done a dozen or so buy/ sell/ trades and got good deals on higher end stuff without issue.

[rob_s]

If you do the Facebook thing, there's several Microtech groups (Microtech Knives, Microtech Knives Marketplace-Buy/Sell/Trade) that you can find decent deals in. Obviously be aware of scammers. Also, Bladeforums has a for sale section for automatic knives.

Thanks. that shit moves quick my god!




If you do reddit, knifeswap has been great for me. I've done a dozen or so buy/ sell/ trades and got good deals on higher end stuff without issue.

no Reddit for me, other than passive "research" from time to time.

[rob_s]

Every thing I am seeing about the Kershaw Livewire males me think it may be a better choice than the Microtech.
I have one in the cart and still deciding yes or no.

Anyone have a Livewire? Clusterfrack

anybody bit down on the Livewire yet?

I like the idea of this ultem one.

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kershaw-Livewire-MagnaCut-OTF-Automatic-Knife--189051

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[mtnbkr]

anybody bit down on the Livewire yet?

I like the idea of this ultem one.

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kershaw-Livewire-MagnaCut-OTF-Automatic-Knife--189051

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I don't know about that specific version, but in general the reviews have been good. I fondled one and it seems ok, but more blade play than I want in a knife (but typical for an OTF).

Chris

[rob_s]

Anyone familiar with Takcom?

this Barracuda (https://tacknivesusa.com/product/barracudaw/)model looks interesting to me. Looks like they are Miami-based.


https://youtu.be/fTqOXKwcUR4?si=Cd0hPAgSPbu--2d6

[CS Tactical]

Anyone familiar with Takcom?

this Barracuda (https://tacknivesusa.com/product/barracudaw/)model looks interesting to me. Looks like they are Miami-based.


https://youtu.be/fTqOXKwcUR4?si=Cd0hPAgSPbu--2d6


I might be interested in the stubby California legal version haha

[rob_s]

Heretic is another one I've been eyeballing (and may have already asked about, but not on this page, haha). Appears that the Manticore-E (https://www.bladehq.com/item--Heretic-Knives-Manticore-E-Bowie-Black-Al-DLC--206991) is the Ultratech facsimile while the Manticore-S (https://www.bladehq.com/item--Heretic-Knives-Manticore-E-Bowie-Black-Al-DLC--206991) is the UTX-85 equivalent.


https://youtu.be/dBoc5b2K-zg?si=CSdXGBFSwh1NGAQ_



https://youtu.be/x3mveKK6ZcU?si=kydLJogXr_R1FYNS

[shane45]

I dont know about facsimile, Id say in the family tree. Its Marfione Jr's line IIRC.

[LittleLebowski]

I’ve been very happy with this Recon from Guardian Tactical.

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[rob_s]

I dont know about facsimile, Id say in the family tree. Its Marfione Jr's line IIRC.

I don't know who that is.

Jr or sr

[Ndbbm]

I don't know who that is.

Jr or sr

Believe that’s who started microtech knives.

Jason

[shane45]

Marfione sr = Microtech
Marfione jr = Heretic

[rob_s]

Its Marfione Jr's line IIRC.


I don't know who that is.

Jr or sr


Believe that’s who started microtech knives.

Jason


Marfione sr = Microtech
Marfione jr = Heretic

thanks guys.

I'd have to mull over how much the name matters.

I know a lot of guys who have dads with successful construction companies that can't nail two boards together...

[rob_s]

Anyone have hands on with this? Ideas on how it compares to the Ultratech (outside the obvious meansurements/specs)?

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Microtech-Cypher-II-SE-Stonewash-Black--194727?srsltid=AfmBOoqxAHMpQVnnxAnow6NxMc0vlD9WiZ0 Z1w7jiG7eMekAva6XaqET


https://youtu.be/3dd7pSdKFJI?si=9xvulgu4fTe3uz7l

[Trajan]

I've been carrying a T/E gen 3 Combat Troodon lately. It's about as big as I would want a knife but it's pretty much perfect. Minimal blade play, and no one has a better tanto grind than MT. Has the best pocket clip I've ever used too. I wish I could retro fit this clip to other knives.

[Elkhitman]

I have a Microtech Warhound, carried it once. Wasn’t for me so it’s been in the knife box since I got it.

[Clusterfrack]

Anyone have hands on with this? Ideas on how it compares to the Ultratech (outside the obvious meansurements/specs)?

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Microtech-Cypher-II-SE-Stonewash-Black--194727?srsltid=AfmBOoqxAHMpQVnnxAnow6NxMc0vlD9WiZ0 Z1w7jiG7eMekAva6XaqET


https://youtu.be/3dd7pSdKFJI?si=9xvulgu4fTe3uz7l

Looks interesting, and definitely a less "martial" look and feel for MT. The promo video with the two girls camping is a solid attempt to broaden the market share for OTFs.

I prefer a thicker blade than 0.11", especially in a 3.5" knife. I also wish MT would add more robust texturing to the grip. Otherwise, it looks really nice.

[LittleLebowski]

Anyone have hands on with this? Ideas on how it compares to the Ultratech (outside the obvious meansurements/specs)?

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Microtech-Cypher-II-SE-Stonewash-Black--194727?srsltid=AfmBOoqxAHMpQVnnxAnow6NxMc0vlD9WiZ0 Z1w7jiG7eMekAva6XaqET



Very interested.

[WobblyPossum]

Does anyone have hands on time with the newer Ultratechs that have the zero blade play? I’ve been eyeing one for a bit.

[Coffee_and_Pipes]

Does anyone have hands on time with the newer Ultratechs that have the zero blade play? I’ve been eyeing one for a bit.

I just looked at a gen 3 Combat Troodon and a zero blade play Ultratech this evening. I didn’t try jimmying the blade around, but they both opened and closed much more easily than my old UTX-85.

[tusk212]

Does anyone have hands on time with the newer Ultratechs that have the zero blade play? I’ve been eyeing one for a bit.

I picked one up from Microtech's Service Personnel Program. It's way easier to deploy/retract and has absolutely zero blade play. Will it stay that way after carry and usage? That's yet to be seen. I hate the new pocket clip though.