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BillSWPA
08-24-2020, 09:01 AM
What do you guys like for a slim Spyderco either for IWB carry or even pocket-clip carry for lightweight dress pants? I'm looking for something lightweight and slim but also appropriate for "office dressy" (as opposed to "office casual" of khaki pants).
A Waved Delica with MXG Gear deep carry clip works well in a suit pocket. The black powder coated clip is discreet with dark colored dress slacks.
If the wave is not critical, KnifeCenter has some Delicas and Enduras with wood handles.
If a visible clip is okay, a Cold Steel Storm Cloud is gentle on dress slacks (but not when waved open - thumb open it except in emergencies). These are discontinued and available from dealers for much less than suggested retail. This has been my EDC for about 1 1/2 years now.
Edited to correct the dealer with the wood handled Spyderco exclusive - Thanks to the poster below.
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Guerrero
08-24-2020, 09:21 AM
What do you guys like for a slim Spyderco either for IWB carry or even pocket-clip carry for lightweight dress pants? I'm looking for something lightweight and slim but also appropriate for "office dressy" (as opposed to "office casual" of khaki pants).
https://pics.knifecenter.com/eyJidWNrZXQiOiAiZmlsZXMua25pZmVjZW50ZXIuY29tIiwia2 V5IjogImtuaWZlY2VudGVyL3NweWRlcmNvLWtuaXZlcy9pbWFn ZXMvU1BDMjhXRFBfMS5qcGciLCJlZGl0cyI6IHsicmVzaXplIj ogeyJ3aWR0aCI6IDQxNCwiaGVpZ2h0IjogMzE1LCJmaXQiOiAi Y29udGFpbiIsImJhY2tncm91bmQiOiB7InIiOiAyNTUsImciOi AyNTUsImIiOiAyNTUsImFscGhhIjogMX19fX0=
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP28WDP/spyderco-c28wdp-dragonfly-2-folding-knife-hap40sus410-satin-plain-blade-pakkawood-handles-knifecenter-exclusive
rob_s
08-24-2020, 09:25 AM
A Waved Delica with MXG Gear deep carry clip works well in a suit pocket. The black powder coated clip is discreet with dark colored dress slacks.
If the wave is not critical, BladeHQ has some Delicas and Enduras with wood handles.
If a visible clip is okay, a Cold Steel Storm Cloud is gentle on dress slacks (but not when waved open - thumb open it except in emergencies). These are discontinued and available from dealers for much less than suggested retail. This has been my EDC for about 1 1/2 years now.
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https://pics.knifecenter.com/eyJidWNrZXQiOiAiZmlsZXMua25pZmVjZW50ZXIuY29tIiwia2 V5IjogImtuaWZlY2VudGVyL3NweWRlcmNvLWtuaXZlcy9pbWFn ZXMvU1BDMjhXRFBfMS5qcGciLCJlZGl0cyI6IHsicmVzaXplIj ogeyJ3aWR0aCI6IDQxNCwiaGVpZ2h0IjogMzE1LCJmaXQiOiAi Y29udGFpbiIsImJhY2tncm91bmQiOiB7InIiOiAyNTUsImciOi AyNTUsImIiOiAyNTUsImFscGhhIjogMX19fX0=
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP28WDP/spyderco-c28wdp-dragonfly-2-folding-knife-hap40sus410-satin-plain-blade-pakkawood-handles-knifecenter-exclusive
thanks guys. Looks like the wood Delica might be a contender, and it comes in .10+ thinner than the wood dradonfly (.041" vs .054")
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP11WDP/spyderco-c11wdp-delica-folding-knife-hap40-sus410-satin-plain-blade-mahogany-pakkawood-handles-knifecenter-exclusive
Gater
08-24-2020, 10:53 AM
Yeah the more I think about it the more I think it’ll have to be IWB with the suit pants, not pocket.
The Lil Native itself is actually pretty interesting.
I think my criteria is that it needs to be thin, in both directions, and some amount of panache would be nice as well.
The Lil Native was a bit of a miss for me--feel is a bit chunky, and the compression lock is probably not at its best in a knife that small. There's lots of good suggestions here, but given your thinness criteria, I'll mention the Chaparral again--it really is. I've got pretty plain tastes, but it is/has been offered in a few varieties with extra panache--check out the Raffir Noble and upcoming Sun and Moon versions and see if either of those work for you.
https://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_store.html?usrsearch=chaparral
Guerrero
08-24-2020, 11:41 AM
The Lil Native was a bit of a miss for me--feel is a bit chunky, and the compression lock is probably not at its best in a knife that small. There's lots of good suggestions here, but given your thinness criteria, I'll mention the Chaparral again--it really is. I've got pretty plain tastes, but it is/has been offered in a few varieties with extra panache--check out the Raffir Noble and upcoming Sun and Moon versions and see if either of those work for you.
https://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_store.html?usrsearch=chaparral
What about the Native 5 FRN? We're obviously inching a bit bigger, but I think the Native 5 FRN is something of an "improved Delica."
Jared
08-25-2020, 07:34 PM
Lord I am weak.....
Got an email from Blade HQ yesterday that they were sending a free Spyderco with every order over $200.....
So I ordered a wave Endura and a ZDP-189 Endura. Got me a pinch over $200 and I’m getting a Resilience for free. I’m not super excited about a Chinese made Spyderco, but the price is right on it I guess. If nothing else, I won’t feel bad about abusing it.
The two Enduras, I’m really looking forward to. Endura is one of my favorite knife designs anyway, I’ve been wanting to try a waved knife, also.
Jared
10-25-2020, 10:03 AM
My next PM2 is either gonna be S110V or Maxamet and I could use some help deciding.
I know either one is gonna be a bear to sharpen, I’ve accepted that. All the reading I’ve done indicates tells S110V is more corrosion resistant but the Maxamet is less prone to chipping at the edge. Is this true? I think I’d rather have to keep a blade oiled than be trying to fix chipped edges all other things being equal, but I’m always open to advice.
blues
10-25-2020, 10:16 AM
I think as an all-arounder, you may be better served with the 110V than Maxamet. I own both but have not put them through the wringer.
However, a well known forum member on bladeforums and the Spyderco forum did this test with 110V and I think you may find it instructive:
https://knifeinformer.com/spyderco-military-s110v-review/
Both are great steels, the Maxamet will hold a longer edge for pure cutting, but lacks the corrosion resistance as well as lateral strength. (In other words, no prying.)
Diamond hones will be your friend with either steel.
Jared
10-25-2020, 11:32 AM
I think as an all-arounder, you may be better served with the 110V than Maxamet. I own both but have not put them through the wringer.
However, a well known forum member on bladeforums and the Spyderco forum did this test with 110V and I think you may find it instructive:
https://knifeinformer.com/spyderco-military-s110v-review/
Both are great steels, the Maxamet will hold a longer edge for pure cutting, but lacks the corrosion resistance as well as lateral strength. (In other words, no prying.)
Diamond hones will be your friend with either steel.
Thank you.
Can I get by with diamond rods on a Sharpmaker or do I 100% need a bench stone?
blues
10-25-2020, 11:36 AM
Thank you.
Can I get by with diamond rods on a Sharpmaker or do I 100% need a bench stone?
You can definitely get by with the diamond rods on the Sharpmaker as the knife will be delivered sharp and the device excels at keeping them sharp.
Don't let the knife dull before touching up. Keep it sharp by maintaining regularly with a few licks on the brown rods. Every now and again you can use the diamond rods, (if you already own 'em), to cut and shape the carbides at the edge which the ceramic itself is not hard enough to cut. (Gently, let the diamonds do the work. And break them in first on some old cheap knife blades to smooth 'em out first.)
You'll be well pleased, imho.
Navin Johnson
10-25-2020, 01:43 PM
I have diamond sharp maker rods and IMHO bench stones are much easier to use. You will want a extra course and a course and maybe even a medium in the diamond stones.......makes work much easier. You cannot put much pressure on the rods as they're very narrow.... and you can rip all the diamonds out....on the bench tones you can put more pressure because they are wider although you don't need much.
S110v is a bit of an odd beast and needs to be sharpened right to deal with a large carbides. It will not hold a "sharp" edge very long but will hold a "working edge" for a long time. I personally value sharp edges for my general carry.... one reason I like ZDP a lot..... As it will hold a "sharp" edge far longer than S110V.... The latter will hold a working edge for longer. S30V will hold a "sharp" edge about as long as S110V.
I have never used Maxamet but a friend of mine said it is not fussy to sharpen because of the finer grain and it holds a sharp edge for a very long time.
Neither are very tough but S110V would definitely be better for any "harder use". I would avoid true "hard use" with either. If you wanted it to be a tough all-around use folder then 30V would be a far better choice.
Without getting into it harder steels are often much easier to sharpen they just take longer. I find ZDP easier to get a good edge on than VG-10. With VG-10 if you apex the edge too early it rolls very easy as an example. Understanding if you do a lot of damage to a harder steel it will take longer to re-profile the blade.
Gater
11-02-2020, 02:19 PM
I'm not a connoisseur the way some of you all, but have still accumulated a bunch of Spydercos. After a self imposed moratorium on further additions in 2019, I kicked off 2020 by picking up a newer version of the Spyderco Cat in BD1N steel. The Cat's an older design with a liner lock and from Spyderco's Value line, but I like it quite a bit and had told myself I'd get another if they upgraded the steel. At 2.5 inch it's right at the fed bldg blade length limit, but handles like a bigger knife. I have an older version in 440C, and the BD1N is a significant improvement--super sharp out of the box, and really holding the edge well (I had looked at one with the earlier BD1 steel, and was not impressed). I did notice some tiny corrosion spots near the pivot when I pulled it out today, but they seem to have cleaned up.
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I just pulled 2020's Spyderco bookend out of the mailbox: yet another Dragonfly (my usual office carry), this time with a Wharncliffe blade. I'm not a huge fan of Spyderco's VG-10 (I do like the H-1 in my Salt serrated version), but I think this guy will be a pretty sweet little boxcutter.
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vcdgrips
11-02-2020, 02:52 PM
Both the Cat and its little brother the Chicago are made in Taiwan v PRC if that is a thing for you.
I like my Cat very much as a jacket/tie EDC.
LittleLebowski
11-02-2020, 03:42 PM
Any times insofar as Sharpmaker stone maintenance? I feel like mine are developing a haze and/or rough and smooth spots. I was pondering cleaning them with a green scratchy, but I figured I’d actually get input before proceeding (for once).
blues
11-02-2020, 03:50 PM
Any times insofar as Sharpmaker stone maintenance? I feel like mine are developing a haze and/or rough and smooth spots. I was pondering cleaning them with a green scratchy, but I figured I’d actually get input before proceeding (for once).
Lots of options...
Gum / Artist eraser for quick cleanup.
Fine or Medium Rubberized sanding block type thingamajig
Barkeepers Friend (or any scouring powder, but Barkeepers is best).
"Green scratchy" with scouring powder will do the trick.
Jared
11-02-2020, 06:46 PM
Any times insofar as Sharpmaker stone maintenance? I feel like mine are developing a haze and/or rough and smooth spots. I was pondering cleaning them with a green scratchy, but I figured I’d actually get input before proceeding (for once).
Can’t remember where I got the recommendation but I clean mine with a product called Bon Ami (bought a can at Walmart) and a scrubber thing. It seems to work pretty good. The white stones are white as can be again after a use.
Navin Johnson
11-03-2020, 10:22 AM
Comment or something similar and a green or blue scratchy and scrub the s*** out of them.
When using softer steels like h1 the brown flats of the triangle stones can load in five to seven passes to the point of not cutting anymore. I usually put a bit of glass cleaner on the rods and they seem to load less understanding they cut slower but I only use them for the final apex. So three or four passes is the most I use the sharp maker stones for.
I label each flat with a number so I know which ones I've used and haven't used.
Clean the rods frequently and they're easier to clean and they work much better.
PS. Don't use the corners for plain edge unless you really know what you're doing.
PS. Don't use the corners for plain edge unless you really know what you're doing.
Why?
Navin Johnson
11-03-2020, 01:34 PM
Why?
Too much pressure on a given point of the blade. If you go back and forth it rolls the edge back and forth and causes weakness. on some of the harder steels like ZDP and S110V you can probably get away with it.
The corners work well to put on a quick edge by making three passes or so on one side gently and then one pass on the other side to cut off the burr.
Again understand the narrowness of the corner makes it load very fast.
I never use corners when I'm doing a primary sharpen and bevel set. I go from diamond bench stones to the brownstones and then I'm done. If I'm feeling kinky I might use the white stones just for something different.....
My work knife I use medium diamonds for the finish in other words it has a fairly coarse edge but can still shave
Clusterfrack
11-03-2020, 02:01 PM
Repost because... Spyderco
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201103/7ec571fa761d2a4a636d7475354fba90.jpg
Wondering Beard
11-03-2020, 02:29 PM
Repost because... Spyderco
Well, if we're going to do that.
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That photo is from three years ago and that knife has not only grown on me, it just does everything a regular suburban guy needs it to do, which is mostly light weight work. If it couldn't do that, I wouldn't be carrying it.
Clusterfrack
11-03-2020, 05:31 PM
... knife has not only grown on me, it just does everything a regular suburban guy needs it to do...
I really want the P’Kal to work for me, but I don’t get reliable wave deployment from the lower pocket corner of the pants I wear.
When used as designed, from the upper side of the pocket, it works great, especially in jeans. But I don’t wear jeans.
Guerrero
11-03-2020, 05:38 PM
I really want the P’Kal to work for me, but I don’t get reliable wave deployment from the lower pocket corner of the pants I wear.
When used as designed, from the upper side of the pocket, it works great, especially in jeans. But I don’t wear jeans.
I have pretty much the same problem with waved knives (and pants)
Wondering Beard
11-03-2020, 05:38 PM
I really want the P’Kal to work for me, but I don’t get reliable wave deployment from the lower pocket corner of the pants I wear.
When used as designed, from the upper side of the pocket, it works great, especially in jeans. But I don’t wear jeans.
I wear mostly jeans and I often carry it in the left side pocket (without changing the clip side, so like a regular waved knife) and it doesn't give me trouble. However, I had to practice quite a bit to figure out how to make it work (angle it outward when you grip it before you withdraw it) and to get reliable results. I think that the "wave" is too think for "regular" wave deployment.
Clusterfrack
11-03-2020, 09:02 PM
I have pretty much the same problem with waved knives (and pants)
My Yojimbo live and trainer with 5x5 wave work effortlessly. And my ZT0620 also.
Guerrero
12-04-2020, 04:00 PM
Seem that Spyderco has discontinued most of their ZDP189 knives, including my favorite DF2
https://forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.php?p=1466096&t=87983
23JAZ
12-18-2020, 09:32 PM
I dumped the Smock for this beauty. Manix 2 S30V-G10
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Gater
12-22-2020, 08:53 AM
Video with Michael Janich that may be of interest: Evolution of the Wharncliffe
http://youtu.be/hnPhVIFZTb0
Navin Johnson
12-22-2020, 08:44 PM
Seem that Spyderco has discontinued most of their ZDP189 knives, including my favorite DF2
https://forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.php?p=1466096&t=87983
Replaced with K390
Special request for a favor: does anyone own both a Delica 4 and a Dragonfly 2? If so, would you mind possibly posting a picture of them, opened, side by side?
I like my Dragonfly 2 a lot, but at times I kind of want something I can get more than 2 and 1/2 fingers on. Ideally the grip part would be about 4”. It’s just a little hard to tell how big the Delica is online.
Thanks!
randyho
12-23-2020, 07:27 PM
Special request for a favor: does anyone own both a Delica 4 and a Dragonfly 2? If so, would you mind possibly posting a picture of them, opened, side by side?
I like my Dragonfly 2 a lot, but at times I kind of want something I can get more than 2 and 1/2 fingers on. Ideally the grip part would be about 4”. It’s just a little hard to tell how big the Delica is online.
Thanks!
Give me a day or two. My impulse control has struck again.
Guerrero
12-23-2020, 08:03 PM
RJ maybe you want to look at either a Chaparral (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-C152PGY-Chapparral-Folder-PlainEdge/dp/B077QY5W3S/) or a Native 5 (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Native5-C41PBK5-Pocket-Folding/dp/B00ILFN5DU/). I believe both are newer designs than the Delica.
Gater
12-23-2020, 08:37 PM
Special request for a favor: does anyone own both a Delica 4 and a Dragonfly 2? If so, would you mind possibly posting a picture of them, opened, side by side?
I like my Dragonfly 2 a lot, but at times I kind of want something I can get more than 2 and 1/2 fingers on. Ideally the grip part would be about 4”. It’s just a little hard to tell how big the Delica is online.
Thanks!
RJ ...I don't have a Delica 4 to put in the line up, but here is a hasty pic of a DFly2, a Salt 1, and a couple of others mentioned here:
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From top to bottom:
Native 5 lightweight, Salt 1, Chaparral, Dragonfly 2 (ZDP)
ETA: I believe the Delica 4 has a longer handle than the Delica 3 (and the Salt 1)...here's a link to a reference pic:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MRLKOq1yAIo/W7Uvp-K7NcI/AAAAAAAACFE/kYEZXXcz1J4Dc1oydyGfgFNORq09-ebyQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_3708.jpg
[MENTION=9257]RJ maybe you want to look at either a Chaparral (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-C152PGY-Chapparral-Folder-PlainEdge/dp/B077QY5W3S/) or a Native 5 (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Native5-C41PBK5-Pocket-Folding/dp/B00ILFN5DU/). I believe both are newer designs than the Delica.
Will do.
Duelist
12-23-2020, 09:43 PM
Special request for a favor: does anyone own both a Delica 4 and a Dragonfly 2? If so, would you mind possibly posting a picture of them, opened, side by side?
I like my Dragonfly 2 a lot, but at times I kind of want something I can get more than 2 and 1/2 fingers on. Ideally the grip part would be about 4”. It’s just a little hard to tell how big the Delica is online.
Thanks!
I got you. Sage 2, Dragonfly ZDP189, Delica Wharncliff
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Jared
12-24-2020, 11:23 AM
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@RJ
here’s a Native 5 LW, a Para 3 LW, a Dragonfly 2, and a Delica 4. Of the 4, the Delica and the Para 3 LW are my favorites. Probably a slight edge to the Delica, but the Para 3 LW is awesome. My wife has a Delica and a Para 3 LW also. She loves them both.
FWIW, when I carry the Dragonfly I drop it in the pocket normally as opposed to using the clip. I don’t care all that much for the way the Dragonfly carries when clipped. The others in the pic I always use the pocket clip.
A final note. I bought one of the blue handled Delicas to use at work. That thing has probably cut more stuff than any other knife I own. I probably cut something with it every day I go to work. It’s taken it like a champ.
Guerrero
12-24-2020, 12:27 PM
I carried the Native 5 LW for about a year, and I really like it, but it was just a tad big for me, so I went (back) to the DF2. From what I hear from members here, the Chaparral is right in-between. If my DF2 ever gives out, I'll seriously look at one of those.
Special request for a favor: does anyone own both a Delica 4 and a Dragonfly 2? If so, would you mind possibly posting a picture of them, opened, side by side?
I like my Dragonfly 2 (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Dragonfly2-C28PBK2-Folding-Knife/dp/B004GUL6IA/) a lot, but at times I kind of want something I can get more than 2 and 1/2 fingers on. Ideally the grip part would be about 4”. It’s just a little hard to tell how big the Delica is online.
Thanks!
Thanks all. Much appreciate the photo's and PMs. I have enough info for the moment. I think I'll keep what I have right now, which is a Benchmade Mini-Griptilian and the DF2.
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I carried that BM Mini-Grip (https://www.amazon.com/Benchmade-Pardue-Mini-griptilian-Steel-Blade/dp/B07NPKWN3W/) for a few years before I bought the DF2 Feb of last year. It's a bit longer than the DF2, as you can see, and quite a good bit heavier, at 2.8 oz vs. 1.2 oz. The scales are also a bit fat, but as a pocket-carry it certainly does everything I need.
I don't think I'll ever part with it though, since I received it as a gift. It was involved in one of the earliest Karma threads here on p-f (before there was a Karma forum) when out of the blue LSP552 messaged me one day after a comment in a knife thread and asked me if I wanted to have it, since it was a little smaller than the full size Griptilian (https://www.amazon.com/Benchmade-Griptilian-CPM-S30V-Drop-Point-Finish/dp/B07NJCRRYQ/) I had bought and been using (I wear size M gloves.)
When I received the mini-Grip, it suited me so well, I ended up karma'ing my large Griptilian to another p-f member, for free, to pay the generosity I received from Ken forward. It's been to BM twice for the free sharpening service, but lately I've tried to learn to keep it with an edge myself. It's not going to shave a gnats whisker but it is good to slice paper when I get done.
I really like the DF2 (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Dragonfly2-C28PBK2-Folding-Knife/dp/B004GUL6IA/), however. I find the FRN handle is great. It really carries like a much larger knife. It's my primary go-to for the ubiquitous daily tasks around the house. I did manage to lose the wire clip. Some moron left it clipped into their pocket, which went through the wash. Clip screws ended up MIA, and I had to order another one from Spyderco CS for $3.95. I did use loc-tite this time, and spoke to the idiot about removing stuff from his pocket before putting shorts in the laundry. :cool:
Jared
12-24-2020, 11:05 PM
I think, maybe, if I’d bought a mini Griptilian instead of a full-size Griptilian then I may have never become the Spyderco fanboy that I am. My big Grip was kind of a chunk in my pocket so I bought a Para 3 (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Folder-Satin-Plain-Flooding/dp/B071KGFRZ3/). I fell in love with that Para 3 (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Folder-Satin-Plain-Flooding/dp/B071KGFRZ3/), and next thing I knew it had somehow multiplied into a perhaps overboard collection of folding knives with bugs on the blades.... some of which are a good bit larger than the full sized Griptilian (Manix 2XL (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Manix-XL-G-10-Black/dp/B00AHF6KDO/) for example).
I’ve never actually owned a mini griptilian, but I got to handle one after I developed my Spyderco problem and I kinda thought, “Damn, this is nice. I probably could have saved a lot of money if I’d started here.”
Joe S
12-25-2020, 08:00 AM
I have a full sized Griptillian, received as a gift. It is a pretty big pocketknife. But I think that is where it shines, as an actual working knife, where you know you will be using it, not the "just in case I need to cut someting" role that smaller folders fill.
The thicker/rounder scales make it one of the most comfortable folder I've ever used for cutting a bunch of rope, or wood whittling tasks. I also have big paws, so that may be some of it.
For me, it's an outdoors knife, or for a serious chores day.
Navin Johnson
12-25-2020, 10:21 AM
I think, maybe, if I’d bought a mini Griptilian instead of a full-size Griptilian then I may have never become the Spyderco fanboy that I am. My big Grip was kind of a chunk in my pocket so I bought a Para 3. I fell in love with that Para 3, and next thing I knew it had somehow multiplied into a perhaps overboard collection of folding knives with bugs on the blades.... some of which are a good bit larger than the full sized Griptilian (Manix 2XL for example).
I’ve never actually owned a mini griptilian, but I got to handle one after I developed my Spyderco problem and I kinda thought, “Damn, this is nice. I probably could have saved a lot of money if I’d started here.”
The mini G handle is too small to grip well. Delica way better in this size.
The handle is way more important than the blade in terms of usability.
For fanboys of both the circle and the wave, the Emerson spydies are on sale at Knife Center. I have three (Delica, Dragonfly, and Endura) and they are my most-carried knives.
https://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_store.html?ttl=Spyderco%20Emerson%20Wave%20L W%20Folders&vpr=SEWF1221&utm_source=combat&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=combat-2021-1-2&kcno=123&mc_cid=a559d6ac7e&mc_eid=4e2b2324a8
Bratch
01-03-2021, 09:19 PM
I probably won’t use it much until this spring/summer but I picked up a Spyderco Waterway.
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LittleLebowski
01-03-2021, 09:33 PM
I probably won’t use it much until this spring/summer but I picked up a Spyderco Waterway.
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Gorgeous!
Bratch
01-03-2021, 11:20 PM
Gorgeous!
I’m pretty excited about it, they are sold out about everywhere but I managed to find one left in stock at a dealer I hadn’t heard of but got good reviews. The grip was super grippy which surprised me. I have a full serrated H1 salt folder (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Tasman-Lightweight-SpyderEdge-Yellow/dp/B00172PQIG/ref=sr_1_10?crid=14AOPYOEQC01J&dchild=1&keywords=spyderco+h1+salt&qid=1609770834&sprefix=h1+salt+s%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-10) in the mail as well.
The current firearms supply chain has me bummed so I plan on redirecting time, energy, and money into more outdoors activities.
Guerrero
01-04-2021, 03:46 PM
Video with Michael Janich that may be of interest: Evolution of the Wharncliffe
http://youtu.be/hnPhVIFZTb0
Man... that video really gives me The Wants for a Yojimbo. I didn't "get it" before; now I do.
Bratch
01-04-2021, 09:17 PM
Man... that video really gives me The Wants for a Yojimbo. I didn't "get it" before; now I do.
I still have a black V1 Yojimbo I got from Mike when I trained with him back in 2005. I still like that they did the blue handles to fade into jeans better.
LittleLebowski
01-04-2021, 10:01 PM
Man... that video really gives me The Wants for a Yojimbo. I didn't "get it" before; now I do.
I been wanting a Yojimbo, I was really close on the Xmas sale.
WobblyPossum
01-04-2021, 10:06 PM
I lucked out and got one during the seconds sale. I like it a lot. I feel bad using it for boring utility tasks like opening mail though since it’s a purpose built defensive knife. I already have a clinch pick as my defensive use only knife though and feel it would be silly for me to carry two defensive knives and no utility blade. The Yojimbo cuts the hell out of packages.
Bratch
01-05-2021, 05:22 PM
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?46209-Spyderco-Yojimbo-2
Guerrero
LittleLebowski
Guerrero
01-05-2021, 05:52 PM
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?46209-Spyderco-Yojimbo-2
Guerrero
LittleLebowski
Lalalala... don't need to spend money on exactly the configuration I would like... lalalala
Duelist
01-13-2021, 04:10 PM
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Might be overkill for cutting up an apple in my office.
#DontCare (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=DontCare)
blues
01-13-2021, 04:29 PM
Not overkill. Next time someone asks you "how do you like them apples?", you have the perfect rejoinder. :cool:
Shawnw
01-17-2021, 11:11 AM
Lalalala... don't need to spend money on exactly the configuration I would like... lalalala
I took that bullet for you hoss.
And in the spirit of this thread I have deployed my new purchase in a tactical fruit prep role.
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rob_s
01-20-2021, 01:39 PM
Pretty neat new option from Blade HQ as an exclusive...
https://www.bladehq.com/cat--Spyderco-Tanto-Paramilitary-2--4173?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=yt+main&utm_campaign=1-19-2021-bhq-new-spyderco&utm_term=NEW+Spyderco+Knives+for+2021+at+Blade+HQ
https://www.bladehq.com/webp/imgs/knives/manual-knives/spyderco-manual/spyderco-paramilitary/Spyderco-Paramilitary-2-Tanto-Compression-Lock-G-10-Black-Exclusive-C81GPTBK2-BHQ-99612-jr.webp
javemtr
01-20-2021, 03:17 PM
The special versions with CPM-M4 steel and natural G-10 are dropping on Friday, January 29th at 10am (MST).
Blades
01-20-2021, 06:49 PM
The special versions with CPM-M4 steel and natural G-10 are dropping on Friday, January 29th at 10am (MST).
I am extremely happy with my CPM-M4 Military -- great steel! #getsome (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=getsome)
vcdgrips
01-22-2021, 03:12 PM
Multiple Spyderco models at 22-53% off to include Bradley Bowie at 199.00 shipped.
https://www.sierra.com/s~spyderco/
javemtr
01-25-2021, 05:05 AM
Found this gem at the bottom of my knife drawer again. Gave it another round of vinegar etching, might actually start using it now, it is a very charming model. Original version of the Spyderco Gayle Bradley in CPM-M4.
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Blades
01-26-2021, 06:52 PM
Nevermind - They are out of stock now. :(
There are some purple G-10 Manix's with Cruwear blade steel available at DLT Trading.
https://www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-manix-2-purple-g-10-black-cru-wear-blade
Blades
01-31-2021, 11:35 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Zlw05uJ.jpg
blues
01-31-2021, 11:42 AM
CPM Cru-Wear is good stuff.
lyodbraun
02-01-2021, 04:55 PM
I picked this little spyderco up. now how much is it worth is the question?
Blades
02-01-2021, 05:25 PM
I picked this little spyderco up. now how much is it worth is the question?
The wee little Spyderco Mouse. Great little knife.
lyodbraun
02-01-2021, 05:50 PM
The wee little Spyderco Mouse. Great little knife.
Yeah it’s a great little knife I’m wondering what these are worth nowadays ?
blues
02-01-2021, 06:15 PM
Yeah it’s a great little knife I’m wondering what these are worth nowadays ?
Your best bet is to join bladeforums.com if you aren't already a member and look at recent sales threads. This really isn't the best place for knife appraisals.
Norville
03-05-2021, 04:48 PM
Picked up an Endela, a Bradley Bowie and the Wharnie PM2 recently. I’m pretty impressed with the Endela, seems about the perfect size.
5pins
03-09-2021, 10:11 AM
https://www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-special-release
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-t7tzgd0/product_images/uploaded_images/spyderco-yojimbo-2-tan-banner-700px.jpg
Norville
03-12-2021, 10:24 AM
https://www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-special-release
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-t7tzgd0/product_images/uploaded_images/spyderco-yojimbo-2-tan-banner-700px.jpg
blues
03-12-2021, 10:37 AM
^^^^
We get the point.
;)
5pins
03-12-2021, 01:58 PM
^^^^
We get the point.
;)
Cut it out!
vcdgrips
03-12-2021, 02:01 PM
Don't be so sharp!
5pins
03-12-2021, 02:38 PM
Never a dull moment.
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blues
03-12-2021, 03:27 PM
We are an edgy group.
Clusterfrack
03-12-2021, 03:40 PM
We are an edgy group.
And dodgy.
blues
03-12-2021, 04:11 PM
And dodgy.
To put it bluntly.
Wondering Beard
03-13-2021, 12:39 AM
To put it bluntly.
You have a point.
You have a point.
These short posts have me on edge.
newyork
03-13-2021, 05:51 AM
Have to get a HANDLE on this situation
5pins
03-13-2021, 06:03 AM
First cut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73YRzTEGl0Y
blues
03-13-2021, 09:00 AM
If we keep up like this, there's a chance the thread will get LOCKED...or perhaps I'm just being FLIP.
And since I do have mod power here, I'd hate to be the Thread Locker.
Sheesh, even I hate myself now. :o
newyork
03-13-2021, 12:37 PM
If we keep up like this, there's a chance the thread will get LOCKED...or perhaps I'm just being FLIP.
And since I do have mod power here, I'd hate to be the Thread Locker.
Sheesh, even I hate myself now. :o
Instead of looking this thread maybe we should PIVOT and get out BEARINGS
blues
03-13-2021, 12:42 PM
Instead of looking this thread maybe we should PIVOT and get out BEARINGS
I may have to get my palms greased first. It's not an Open and Shut Case. You might have to steel yourselves, yet.
Half Moon
03-13-2021, 01:06 PM
I may have to get my palms greased first. It's not an Open and Shut Case. You might have to steel yourselves, yet.
Well let's not be hasty. No need to Buck the trend.
Jared
03-15-2021, 06:55 PM
Picked up an Endela, a Bradley Bowie and the Wharnie PM2 recently. I’m pretty impressed with the Endela, seems about the perfect size.
I actually got an Endela (https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-C243PBK-Endela-Folding-Knives/dp/B07SK4D8C3/ref=sr_1_2?crid=30F3OGEITMFV5&dchild=1&keywords=spyderco+endela+knife&qid=1615942260&sprefix=Spyderco.+Ende%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-2) soon after they came out. Seemed like a neat thing to me, Delica/Endura ergos in a PM2 sized package. I hope Spyderco comes out with some more options before too long. For some reason I’d like to see a version with a Wharncliffe blade and serrated edge because I’m a weirdo.
LittleLebowski
03-16-2021, 07:52 PM
You have a point.
I’ve wharned you all about going off the cliffe.
Clusterfrack
03-16-2021, 08:01 PM
I’ve wharned you all about going off the cliffe.
Cut them some slack.
blues
03-16-2021, 08:02 PM
I’ve wharned you all about going off the cliffe.
Can the apocalypse be far behind?
;)
Wondering Beard
03-16-2021, 10:44 PM
I’ve wharned you all about going off the cliffe.
Do you have to be so blunt? ;-)
LittleLebowski
03-17-2021, 07:24 AM
Do you have to be so blunt? ;-)
The pathway to salvation is as narrow and as difficult to walk as a razor's edge.
blues
03-17-2021, 08:20 AM
The pathway to salvation is as narrow and as difficult to walk as a razor's edge.
That really cut me to the quick.
Wondering Beard
03-17-2021, 09:26 AM
The pathway to salvation is as narrow and as difficult to walk as a razor's edge.
"Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what's incomplete and saying: 'Now, it's complete because it's ended here."
"Is your religion real when it costs you nothing and carries no risk?"
Maybe that's the point of enlightenment? ;-)
blues
03-17-2021, 09:33 AM
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"When you can take the Spyderco from my hand...then it will be time for you to leave."
gato naranja
03-17-2021, 07:55 PM
For some reason I’d like to see a version with a Wharncliffe blade and serrated edge because I’m a weirdo.
I bought a Delica with the serrated Wharncliffe blade and discovered that it was the bomb for opening cartons with reinforced tape and that tenacious, clear wrapping material from Hell. Really a useful knife to keep by the kitchen and entryway. Interestingly, I have been told that it "looks scary."
(By people who haven't seen a Civilian or Matriarch.)
vcdgrips
03-18-2021, 09:53 AM
Its the serrations. In pre 9/11 days you could fly with a delica sized folder or SAK all day long. Thru the mid 90s, the knife could be fully serrated. I indeed carried a serrated delica specifically for the time, on an airplane mind you, I was going to have to cut thru seatbelts.
At some point thereafter, no more serrations. One lost delica serrated later, I bought a walmart Native that I would essential use as a money clip when going thru the airport. Nary a word.
Still have the Native. Post 9/11, your best permissible edge is probable a pair of purpose designed trauma shears???
If I cared or worked in a place where it mattered, I would lose the serrated edge, keep the Delica as the upper end of my size envelope and perhaps select a non black "friendlier" color.
gato naranja
03-18-2021, 12:06 PM
Post 9/11, your best permissible edge is probable a pair of purpose designed trauma shears???
Gata naranja had the envelope opener blade component of her Victorinox SwissCard confiscated on her last flight. The scissors were ok.
As for serrations, yes, they do freak some people out. I chalked those reactions to that particular Delica up to the serrations combined with the Wharncliffe blade shape, because even the plain edge Wharncliffe Delica sometimes causes people to do a sort of double-take or get a blank look.
Humans are weird.
mmc45414
03-19-2021, 03:40 PM
As for serrations, yes, they do freak some people out.
I think they are even specifically called out in Ohio law, which is particularly goofy.
javemtr
03-21-2021, 01:40 PM
Just a heads up: there will be an exclusive PM2 released soon. It will be a Paramilitary 2 with OD green G-10 handle scales and black DLC coated blade S90V blade. Available on March 30th at 11 am Central. Priced at $182 each with a limit of 2 per customer. It will be exclusive to DLT Trading.
Instagram post here, I couldn't find any mention on the website so far: p/CMnLLctLoyU
blues
03-21-2021, 01:48 PM
If I didn't already have too many PM2s I'd pick one up. Great steel, high carbide content, holds an edge for a long time.
(Sharpening is not for the faint of heart, or for those without some experience, generally speaking. Diamond hones a plus.)
Rex G
03-22-2021, 11:48 AM
Just a heads up: there will be an exclusive PM2 released soon. It will be a Paramilitary 2 with OD green G-10 handle scales and black DLC coated blade S90V blade. Available on March 30th at 11 am Central. Priced at $182 each with a limit of 2 per customer. It will be exclusive to DLT Trading.
Instagram post here, I couldn't find any mention on the website so far: p/CMnLLctLoyU
Interesting. I had wanted to buy a couple or three Delicas, at the end of the month, specifically for travel blades. (Road trips, not flying.) My deposit will post by 0800, on the 30th. Hmm. Thanks for enabling. ;)
Why “travel blades?” Well, here in knife-friendly Texas, I tend to pack large blades, that would step on legal toes, in places such as neighboring Arkansas, where my wife wants to visit.
Half Moon
03-22-2021, 01:38 PM
Testing a database error on page 36. Page 35 and earlier are fine. Maybe a nuked post causing a numbering error.
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It worked!
Edited to add spyderco content :-)
5pins
03-22-2021, 02:24 PM
This is great. Now I can spend the next week telling myself I'm going to be strong and not buy another PM2 just to change my mind at 11:55 AM EST next Tuesday.:rolleyes:
newyork
03-22-2021, 03:58 PM
You guys are making me want something new and I barely look at folders anymore.
I’ll always want a Gayle Bradley, Spydiechef and now the Watu, Shaman and Native Chief look sexy too. Lol. Plus some BM knives. Not to mention like 25 fixed blades.
So as you see I’m not even interested in knives lol.
newyork
03-23-2021, 05:06 PM
Alright, now I really want a Spydie or Benchmade. Something smaller than my Hogue. Unassuming. More sheeple friendly maybe. Slicey thin blade but sturdy. Sick of FRN. Haven’t had a Benchmade in forever or a new Spydie in a few years. 940, Grip, watu, idk.
Clusterfrack
03-23-2021, 05:30 PM
Alright, now I really want a Spydie or Benchmade. Something smaller than my Hogue. Unassuming. More sheeple friendly maybe. Slicey thin blade but sturdy. Sick of FRN. Haven’t had a Benchmade in forever or a new Spydie in a few years. 940, Grip, watu, idk.
I’m looking at the Mini Osbourne or PM2 for a similar reason.
newyork
03-23-2021, 05:58 PM
Both of those look phenomenal. I always go for Spydie in the past. I’m really considering a Benchmade but I’m a little clueless on them. I know the 940/943 and bug out and grip are some popular ones. Bug out seems flimsy unless you spend over $200. But I’m going by looks and a little feedback.
I like how the 940 is classy and smaller but still stout.
Idk other models.
If there was a non frn model from Spydie that rivaled that I’m all ears
newyork
03-23-2021, 07:13 PM
I love the shape of the mini crooked river. Liking the looks of the presidio 2 and the bailout too.
Clusterfrack
03-23-2021, 09:47 PM
I love the shape of the mini crooked river. Liking the looks of the presidio 2 and the bailout too.
Blade shape is such a personal thing. I don't like most of Benchmade's blade designs. The Osborne, and my 2 BM/HK Snody knives are more to my style:
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newyork
03-23-2021, 09:53 PM
That’s a beauty! I’d have to agree. Looking over even the 940 it’s pretty meh to me. Grind doesn’t make sense. A bunch of theirs actually. Whereas the Spydie aren’t exciting but they cut like hell.
Clusterfrack
03-23-2021, 10:14 PM
That’s a beauty! I’d have to agree. Looking over even the 940 it’s pretty meh to me. Grind doesn’t make sense. A bunch of theirs actually. Whereas the Spydie aren’t exciting but they cut like hell.
Agree entirely. I just wish more of Spyderco's handle designs were symmetric, and better suited to unconventional grips. I'm not a huge fan of finger grooves and inward curved handles.
Totem Polar
03-23-2021, 11:35 PM
If I didn't already have too many PM2s I'd pick one up. Great steel, high carbide content, holds an edge for a long time.
(Sharpening is not for the faint of heart, or for those without some experience, generally speaking. Diamond hones a plus.)
OT, but, the diamond hones you suggested are giving great service.
PNWTO
03-24-2021, 02:04 PM
No pics available but I love my Dragonfly Salt and Tasman Salt for OCONUS touristy travels. That H-1 hasn’t shown any negative effect of salt water exposure.
I’ve been on the fence about picking up a Matriarch for the wife but that will probably happen soon. I’d also love to have a PM2 but all my chores are so well handled by a SAK or my AmTac Northman it’s a bit hard to justify as I know it’ll be sitting in a drawer.
To combine my musings, has there even been a H-1 PM2? If memory serves there was once a H-1 Endura-like offering right?
newyork
03-24-2021, 02:11 PM
Pacific salt uses endura handle and blade length just different clip and no liners in the handle. Just lost mine :(
Damn it I want a new knife and have no direction haha
Clusterfrack
03-24-2021, 02:47 PM
newyork, dude--you and I are on the same random path. I just looked at the Salt and put it on my list:
https://pics.knifecenter.com/eyJidWNrZXQiOiAiZmlsZXMua25pZmVjZW50ZXIuY29tIiwia2 V5IjogImtuaWZlY2VudGVyL3NweWRlcmNvLWtuaXZlcy9pbWFn ZXMvU1A4OEZTV0NHUjJubi5qcGciLCJlZGl0cyI6IHsicmVzaX plIjogeyJ3aWR0aCI6IDc2MCwiaGVpZ2h0IjogNDE1LCJmaXQi OiAiY29udGFpbiIsImJhY2tncm91bmQiOiB7InIiOiAyNTUsIm ciOiAyNTUsImIiOiAyNTUsImFscGhhIjogMX19fX0=
newyork
03-24-2021, 02:53 PM
The serrated pacific salt surprised the hell out of me. I hate serrations until that knife. It cuts like a bitch me despite H1 not being so great, it makes great serrated knives that last.
It’d make a nice addition to your collection.
I think I just wanna spend money hahaha.
If you want bigger there’s the Salt. Even bigger (Endura) Pacific salt. There’s also some larger hawkbills.
newyork
03-26-2021, 08:05 AM
Ordered an Endela in K390.
gato naranja
03-28-2021, 07:00 PM
Color the cat crazy, but he digs Delica 4 Wharnies.
Half Moon
03-28-2021, 07:19 PM
The serrated pacific salt surprised the hell out of me. I hate serrations until that knife. It cuts like a bitch me despite H1 not being so great, it makes great serrated knives that last.
It’d make a nice addition to your collection.
I think I just wanna spend money hahaha.
If you want bigger there’s the Salt. Even bigger (Endura) Pacific salt. There’s also some larger hawkbills.
And some smaller hawkbills too:
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Dragonfly 2 Salt. My wife's most used pocket knife, especially in the garden.
Norville
03-28-2021, 08:59 PM
Ordered an Endela in K390.
Jus got an Endela in VG 10 and really like it!
newyork
03-29-2021, 10:39 AM
Says my Endela is delivered. I’ll post pics although it’s a blue frn back lock. Not exciting to look at lol.
You’d think this would’ve satisfied my folder fix. Damn it, not I want like 7 other Spydie.
newyork
03-29-2021, 04:47 PM
Here she is next to my VG10 Endura. 69511
Clusterfrack
03-29-2021, 05:02 PM
It's hard to tell from pictures, but does the Wharncliffe Delica have a straighter handle-to-blade profile than the standard Delica? I'm asking because I prefer knives that work well for me in forward and reverse grips, and downswept blades don't.
Color the cat crazy, but he digs Delica 4 Wharnies. https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69472&stc=1&d=1616975976
Here she is next to my VG10 Endura. 69511
newyork
03-29-2021, 05:05 PM
Idk I’ve never seen one in person.
Clusterfrack
03-29-2021, 05:14 PM
Here’s a comparison, with my red lines added. I think it’s an optical illusion. The overall geometry is similar.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210329/eb67050f47d6ef2f396591ac08783799.jpg
https://bladereviews.com/spyderco-delica-4-wharncliffe-review/
newyork
03-29-2021, 05:23 PM
I think you’re right. I think they’re the same but it’s an illusion.
Bet the wharnie is a nasty cutter. This new Endela is a laser.
Clusterfrack
03-29-2021, 05:35 PM
I think you’re right. I think they’re the same but it’s an illusion.
Bet the wharnie is a nasty cutter. This new Endela is a laser.
I'm now liking the sheepsfoot on the Salt2 lc200n even better than the Wharn. I have some long-term international travel coming up that includes diving/snorkeling. Hopefully, I can use that as an excuse to have one in less knife-friendly places.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP88FSGR2/spyderco-salt-2-folding-knife-lc200n-serrated-blade-green-frn-handles
https://pics.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/spyderco-knives/images/SP88FSGR2_1.jpg
newyork
03-29-2021, 07:12 PM
If you go somewhere that doesn’t allow a lock on the knife, I have a (I think that’s what it’s called) Pingo. You can use it wherever you’re going, let me know.
gato naranja
03-29-2021, 10:03 PM
It's hard to tell from pictures, but does the Wharncliffe Delica have a straighter handle-to-blade profile than the standard Delica? I'm asking because I prefer knives that work well for me in forward and reverse grips, and downswept blades don't.
I dug out a FFG Delica 4 and compared them. Interestingly (to me, anyway), the very tip of the Wharncliffe is not that much lower than the tip of the regular FFG blade... though it is a bit lower.
Clusterfrack
03-29-2021, 10:13 PM
If you go somewhere that doesn’t allow a lock on the knife, I have a (I think that’s what it’s called) Pingo. You can use it wherever you’re going, let me know.
Thanks dude. Much appreciated.
luckyman
03-29-2021, 10:54 PM
Here’s a comparison, with my red lines added. I think it’s an optical illusion. The overall geometry is similar.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210329/eb67050f47d6ef2f396591ac08783799.jpg
https://bladereviews.com/spyderco-delica-4-wharncliffe-review/
Darn it, that had me fooled, to the point where I was thinking about buying one.
Thanks for posting this.
Duelist
03-30-2021, 08:22 AM
It's hard to tell from pictures, but does the Wharncliffe Delica have a straighter handle-to-blade profile than the standard Delica? I'm asking because I prefer knives that work well for me in forward and reverse grips, and downswept blades don't.
Here’s a comparison, with my red lines added. I think it’s an optical illusion. The overall geometry is similar.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210329/eb67050f47d6ef2f396591ac08783799.jpg
https://bladereviews.com/spyderco-delica-4-wharncliffe-review/
I dug out a FFG Delica 4 and compared them. Interestingly (to me, anyway), the very tip of the Wharncliffe is not that much lower than the tip of the regular FFG blade... though it is a bit lower.
I was part of the original thread/discussion on BF where the prototype of the Delica Wharncliffe was introduced, tested, discussed ad nauseum, and then the original run was sold (mine is one of the original run - nobody was sure whether it was just going to be a sprint or a regular catalog item, so those who wanted one pre-ordered).
It was originally intended to be a much more effective box cutter and package opener than a razor blade box cutter. The guy who built a home job prototype and then asked Sal if he would consider it for a production item worked in a warehouse cutting into and cutting up boxes, and grew disaffected with regular box cutter and blades breaking/needing replaced constantly. Sal built a couple of them and sent them to him to worksite test, and so those two were factory prototypes that got used hard.
Like I said, that was a knife I preordered. In fact, it’s the only one I’ve ever done that for. Definitely useful beyond cutting up boxes in a forward grip, but it does have a little bit of down angle to the tip to make it more effective for that use. It is useable in a reverse grip; my hands are big enough that I don’t mess with that regularly with a Delica, though, regardless of blade profile. The Delica handle is barely long enough for that to be somewhat safe for me. ;)
gato naranja
03-30-2021, 08:55 AM
I was part of the original thread/discussion on BF where the prototype of the Delica Wharncliffe was introduced, tested, discussed ad nauseum, and then the original run was sold (mine is one of the original run - nobody was sure whether it was just going to be a sprint or a regular catalog item, so those who wanted one pre-ordered).
It was originally intended to be a much more effective box cutter and package opener than a razor blade box cutter. The guy who built a home job prototype and then asked Sal if he would consider it for a production item worked in a warehouse cutting into and cutting up boxes, and grew disaffected with regular box cutter and blades breaking/needing replaced constantly. Sal built a couple of them and sent them to him to worksite test, and so those two were factory prototypes that got used hard.
Like I said, that was a knife I preordered. In fact, it’s the only one I’ve ever done that for. Definitely useful beyond cutting up boxes in a forward grip, but it does have a little bit of down angle to the tip to make it more effective for that use. It is useable in a reverse grip; my hands are big enough that I don’t mess with that regularly with a Delica, though, regardless of blade profile. The Delica handle is barely long enough for that to be somewhat safe for me. ;)
I used to haunt BF back when I was researching ES gear for the org I was in at the time, and I vaguely remember that saga. In those days I was so preoccupied with Mini-Griptilians that I was not too interested.
The Delica 4 serrated Wharncliffe is a wonderful knife for opening packages prepared by people with OCD and tape... lots and lots of tape.
5pins
03-30-2021, 11:13 AM
Just a heads up: there will be an exclusive PM2 released soon. It will be a Paramilitary 2 with OD green G-10 handle scales and black DLC coated blade S90V blade. Available on March 30th at 11 am Central. Priced at $182 each with a limit of 2 per customer. It will be exclusive to DLT Trading.
Instagram post here, I couldn't find any mention on the website so far: p/CMnLLctLoyU
I just grab one. I'm so weak. :o
newyork
03-30-2021, 11:28 AM
Good grab!!!
newyork
03-30-2021, 11:30 AM
https://i.imgur.com/4uGO5UL.jpg
javemtr
03-30-2021, 12:56 PM
I just grab one. I'm so weak. :o
2 hours later and they are still available! Either DLT Trading ordered a huge batch or this model is not as popular as anticipated. Either way, I ordered two because why not! :cool:
5pins
04-06-2021, 02:39 PM
Got my hands on it yesterday and played with it for awhile. Put it away and grabbed my Yojimbo I pick up a few weeks ago and realized that I don't like it. The PM 2's just fit my hands so well. the color looks so much better IRL.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3-27X7Bdag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFIVxg8NqY
Guerrero
04-06-2021, 02:50 PM
Put it away and grabbed my Yojimbo I pick up a few weeks ago and realized that I don't like it.
Dibs! You can pay me $20 to take it off your hands.
:D
newyork
04-06-2021, 07:37 PM
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vcdgrips
04-10-2021, 01:45 PM
Not owning a Wharncliffe and having an Amazon GC burning a hole in my pocket, I took a chance and ordered the Rockjumper off of Amazon.
Onkata shipped the knife which seems genuine, based on fit, finish, alignment etc. Onkata is apparently owned by Hardware Sales out of Wash state. Website there showed Spyderco for sale. CS phone number for Onkata matches Wash area code and Hardware Sales is an AD as per the Spyderco website.
Knife clipped the corner of a typing paper sheet and took hair off my forearm. Sharp enough for me.
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Jared
04-12-2021, 08:22 PM
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I’ve been wanting a solid Spyderco made alternative to the Benchmade Bugout. Nothing against Benchmade per se, I just vastly prefer the Spyder hole for opening and prefer Spyderco ergonomics overall. I see the Para 3 LW touted often, but it’s a bit heavier than a Bugout.
So I expanded my forum horizons a bit and did some searching on what Spyderco offered that was a real Bugout alternative. Over on the Spyderco forum I read a recommendation for the Salt 2. It’s 1.9 oz vs the 1.85 of the Bugout. Close enough. Blade is a bit shorter, but not enough to bother me. Both knives are linerless, so same/same. Back lock isn’t as sexy as an Axis lock, but honestly, a sub 2 oz knife with no liners hardly qualifies as a hard use special regardless of the lock. I’m also pretty fond of Spyderco’s execution of the back lock anyway.
Where the Salt 2 really wins out for me is the handle. It’s Delica 4 ergos all the way, and lord knows I do love the Delica 4 as a good mid sized knife the feels great in the hand. I went with the serrated Wharncliffe blade, but there are other options.
I can push cut paper with the blade although only one scallop does the cutting on this type of cut. It slices cardboard very well. Where I’ve found serrated edges to really shine of late is making feather sticks. For whatever reason, I can get noticeably thinner shavings with a Spyderco serrated edge than I can a plain edge. I’ve also found serrated edges to be better for me when cutting rope and zip ties, two things I cut a fair amount of. So far I’m loving this little guy and think it’s sinfully under advertised as a hiking/backpacking lightweight companion.
hurley842002
04-12-2021, 10:53 PM
My gym/running knife, Spyderco dragonfly with wave feature.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210413/990fd19b6816c0e7d222e401a897ebbe.jpg
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javemtr
04-13-2021, 03:53 AM
Got my hands on it yesterday and played with it for awhile. Put it away and grabbed my Yojimbo I pick up a few weeks ago and realized that I don't like it. The PM 2's just fit my hands so well. the color looks so much better IRL.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3-27X7Bdag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFIVxg8NqY
This was also my first PM2 and like you say, I really appreciate that it feels a bit smaller than a Manix or Yojimbo, especially in pocket.
The color combo is amazing in real life. I don't really mind that the liners are not coated.
The edge bevel on the left side of my blade was a bit uneven from the factory, the right side was perfectly even. So last night I sharpened mine on my Tsprof sharpener. I measured the factory edge angle and it was pretty much exactly 18 degrees per side, 36 degrees inclusive. Went through my standard stone progression of 220/400/600/1000 grit and stropping on 1 micron diamond leather and the sharpness feels amazing. Not quite as aggressive as CPM-M4, but almost.
Great knife, I'm glad I scored on this drop!
momano
04-13-2021, 02:47 PM
I bought this LC200N blade because it was suggested to be an ideal choice for food prep. Last night I used my knife to slice some grilled bratwurst. This morning I noticed brown stains on the blade, so I've tried to clean it first with some windex, then rubbing alcohol, then WD40- no luck. Any suggestions? I'm actually not concerned about appearances as much as corrosion to the steel. Thoughts?70105
Guerrero
04-13-2021, 02:51 PM
...Thoughts?
Well... my first thought was, "What the hell kind of brats are you eating?!?"
blues
04-13-2021, 02:52 PM
I think your best information will be available here:
https://forum.spyderco.com/viewforum.php?f=2
momano
04-13-2021, 02:54 PM
LOL- they tasted fine! At a friend's house.
blues
04-13-2021, 02:59 PM
momano
Here's a thread you may want to take a gander at. Long, but I'll bet it may have some good info interspersed with the chaff.
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/my-lc200n-mule-rusted-how-is-that-possible.1554938/
Navin Johnson
04-15-2021, 06:41 PM
I bought this LC200N blade because it was suggested to be an ideal choice for food prep. Last night I used my knife to slice some grilled bratwurst. This morning I noticed brown stains on the blade, so I've tried to clean it first with some windex, then rubbing alcohol, then WD40- no luck. Any suggestions? I'm actually not concerned about appearances as much as corrosion to the steel. Thoughts?70105
Flitz, Simichrome, or toothpaste.
momano
04-16-2021, 06:59 AM
I called Spyderco on Tuesday, they suggested Flitz, which Amazon delivered last night, and this morning the stain is gone. Thanks, all. :)
spyderco monkey
04-18-2021, 09:00 PM
I called Spyderco on Tuesday, they suggested Flitz, which Amazon delivered last night, and this morning the stain is gone. Thanks, all. :)
Flitz is the go-to for all knife staining and rust.
For blade cleaning - removing tape residue especially - Zippo fluid works best.
Once you have those 2, you're mostly set as far as blade cleaning.
I typically wipe my EDC blades down with Zippo fluid once a week, while use Flitz 1-2x a year.
spyderco monkey
04-18-2021, 09:03 PM
Trimmed the big cactus in my front yard today with my CPM-D2 Military today. I've been carrying this guy on and off for 10-12 years now.
https://i.ibb.co/YPVn3C6/Spyderco-Military-Cactus-Trim.jpg
drummer
05-02-2021, 11:21 AM
My newest Spyderco came in yesterday. I was lucky enough to grab one from the Slysz Bowie drop from Knifejoy.
My initial thoughts are that it is the nicest Spyderco i've owned and probably handled. I don't usually love frame locks for a few reasons. I hate flippers and the careful finger placement necessary to avoid putting pressure on the locker. My previous experiments with frame locks have resulted in them being sold or traded. The only one I've missed is a first gen Umnumzaan. It was a great knife but had a few issues that I couldn't bring myself to overlook.
I'm usually drawn to more rugged and ambi lock designs. The last previous Spyderco that I bought was a Chinook 4. That said, the Slysz bowie checks a lot of boxes for me. It lacks the finger choil that Spyderco loves putting on their knives. It's a good design with a very functional blade shape and size. The full flat ground blade and relatively thin edge makes it a cutting machine with few peers. It is a very practical design. Of critical importance to me, it has the pronounced Spyderhole that can be deployed with either hand with and without gloves.
One of my concerns with frame locks is always inadvertent unlocking. The grip design of the Slysz Bowie seems to negate that issue. Bottom line, this frame lock may be a keeper. I didn't love the blue anodizing in the pictures but in person, it appears more like a dark gray. The color has definitely grown on me.
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blues
05-02-2021, 11:50 AM
It must've been a factory second...I see the clip is mounted on the wrong side. ;)
Seriously, though, I've long been curious what all the hoopla is around this knife. Glad to get a well reasoned opinion.
Jared
05-09-2021, 09:06 PM
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My wife is a Spyderco fangirl. This is her collection.
Duelist
05-10-2021, 03:01 AM
71272
My wife is a Spyderco fangirl. This is her collection.
One of us!
I approve.
Phaedrus
05-10-2021, 03:53 AM
A couple of mine.
This top one is my main EDC- a Delica in HAP40.
https://i.imgur.com/ljmnTMh.jpg?2
https://i.imgur.com/8TR4OKx.jpg?2
https://i.imgur.com/VhBw2Vw.jpg?2
https://i.imgur.com/6r9mxYF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/shl4UeY.jpg?2
The bottom knife is a Dragonfly in Super Blue/Aogami. I actually sold it and got another Dragonfly but in HAP40. The Ao Ko is just too reactive to carry in a pocket. I keep this one on a keychain along with a Olight i3e EOS & a spare AAA in a Delrin battery capsule from County Comm.
blues
05-10-2021, 08:17 AM
You guys are clearly a sharp group. :cool:
vcdgrips
05-10-2021, 08:42 AM
A little "edgy" for my tastes.
Guerrero
05-10-2021, 08:46 AM
A little "edgy" for my tastes.
Enough with the puns; we get the point.
blues
05-10-2021, 08:56 AM
Any way you slice it, it's still a group that won't fold under pressure.
Jared
05-10-2021, 06:25 PM
Any way you slice it, it's still a group that won't fold under pressure.
Probably not, but nearly everyone in this thread does have the bug.
Phaedrus
05-10-2021, 07:37 PM
I've got a Salt as well and an older one (Dyad?) that has two blades, one FFG and one serrated.
Clusterfrack
05-21-2021, 06:04 PM
P’Kal and new beater P’Kal thanks to NoTacTravis (PF Karma) with replacement stud from Spyderco CS.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210521/26746161a4b285104093af662b117d4a.jpg
pangloss
05-28-2021, 10:27 PM
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I visited Spyderco HQ in Golden, CO last week. If you're ever in the area, it's worth the stop. I'd never held a Delica before, but thus far I really like it. It's actually a little more comfortable to me than my Para 3. I don't expect to quit carrying the Para 3, but it's nice to have this new option.
Phaedrus
05-29-2021, 05:08 PM
I finally managed to nab a Delica in K390! Haven't used it much yet but I look forward to putting it through its' paces.:cool:
spyderco monkey
06-04-2021, 11:49 PM
Spyderco just released pics of their upcoming Fred Perrin 'Subway Bowie' from BladeShow 2021.
It's a scaled down version of the existing Spyderco Street Beat.
Looks to be Clinch Pick sized, but for a conventional edge out (as opposed to edge in / reverse.) So useful for both stabbing muggers and more benign box opening / sandwich slicing.
Blade steel is the awesome, rust proof LC200N, so it can also be taken swimming / in the shower if you're about that shower shank lifestyle.
https://i.postimg.cc/25S7WwjP/156717-FE-C3-FE-4496-B1-EA-AB9-E6-AE70-F4-C.png
Duelist
06-05-2021, 01:08 AM
Back in December, right before we went to visit Thing 2 for Christmas, I put my favorite Spyderco, the Sage 2, someplace clever I was sure not to forget so I wouldn’t lose it while on the road trip.
Haven’t seen it since.
Gave myself a new Sage for the birthday this week.
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gato naranja
06-05-2021, 07:46 AM
72001
I'd never held a Delica before, but thus far I really like it.
They are a great combination of size, performance and price. I initially thought they were "meh," but over time, they displaced all my other folders for everyday tasks.
blues
06-05-2021, 09:00 AM
Spyderco just released pics of their upcoming Fred Perrin 'Subway Bowie' from BladeShow 2021.
It's a scaled down version of the existing Spyderco Street Beat.
Looks to be Clinch Pick sized, but for a conventional edge out (as opposed to edge in / reverse.) So useful for both stabbing muggers and more benign box opening / sandwich slicing.
Blade steel is the awesome, rust proof LC200N, so it can also be taken swimming / in the shower if you're about that shower shank lifestyle.
https://i.postimg.cc/25S7WwjP/156717-FE-C3-FE-4496-B1-EA-AB9-E6-AE70-F4-C.png
The original Fred Perrin "Subway Bowie"...made for me during a trip to Paris in 1999, visiting with Fred. (It was a nice surprise, to say the least.)
https://i.ibb.co/vvWb7f0/perrin-subway-bowie.jpg
PNWTO
06-06-2021, 12:16 PM
Spyderco just released pics of their upcoming Fred Perrin 'Subway Bowie' from BladeShow 2021.
It's a scaled down version of the existing Spyderco Street Beat.
Looks to be Clinch Pick sized, but for a conventional edge out (as opposed to edge in / reverse.) So useful for both stabbing muggers and more benign box opening / sandwich slicing.
Blade steel is the awesome, rust proof LC200N, so it can also be taken swimming / in the shower if you're about that shower shank lifestyle.
https://i.postimg.cc/25S7WwjP/156717-FE-C3-FE-4496-B1-EA-AB9-E6-AE70-F4-C.png
Did you get a glimpse of the sheath design? I dig it.
javemtr
06-07-2021, 12:21 AM
Did you get a glimpse of the sheath design? I dig it.
I don't think the sheath was shown in the video, they only mentioned it would be a kydex sheath. Let's hope it is a streamlined minimalist design unlike some of Spyderco's rather large footprint kydex sheaths.
psalms144.1
06-08-2021, 09:50 AM
Spyderco just released pics of their upcoming Fred Perrin 'Subway Bowie' from BladeShow 2021. Was there any indication of price or release date? I might have to have one of those...
javemtr
06-09-2021, 09:25 AM
Was there any indication of price or release date? I might have to have one of those...
Unfortunately no mentions of any of those details in the video.
rob_s
06-09-2021, 09:53 AM
Spyderco just released pics of their upcoming Fred Perrin 'Subway Bowie' from BladeShow 2021.
It's a scaled down version of the existing Spyderco Street Beat.
Looks to be Clinch Pick sized, but for a conventional edge out (as opposed to edge in / reverse.) So useful for both stabbing muggers and more benign box opening / sandwich slicing.
Blade steel is the awesome, rust proof LC200N, so it can also be taken swimming / in the shower if you're about that shower shank lifestyle.
https://i.postimg.cc/25S7WwjP/156717-FE-C3-FE-4496-B1-EA-AB9-E6-AE70-F4-C.png
that's pretty awesome. I've been thinking about picking up one of these, but as mentioned the sheath is a little obtrusive...
https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/FB35BK/ARK-FRN-Black/921
https://cdn.brandfolder.io/YLOLU61B/as/oh00mv-861fm8-fm39mc/FB35SBK_Both.png?height=350
Clusterfrack
06-09-2021, 12:10 PM
^^^That looks great except the blade is on backwards.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210609/0d7aa185175f0b1bcccf8fdab591383e.jpg
javemtr
06-10-2021, 04:15 AM
Goshdangit, I wish somebody would remake the Reverse with a completely straight wharncliffe edge, the short grip, and a high performance stainless steel.
noguns
06-13-2021, 03:11 PM
I never bought a spyderco. I like the benchmade axis lock. I want to try a spyderco out and have no real knife stores local to me. Should I try a tenacious because it’s cheap? Or just go big and buy a PM2 or manic 2 since knives are much cheaper than guns?(keep in mind that I only had a griptilian since surfing this section of PF. Since then I’ve ordered another benchmade, a civivi elementun, and a Doug Ritter hogue all within the last two weeks lol)
Anyone converted from benchmade to spyderco and not missed the axis lock?
Blades
06-13-2021, 04:14 PM
I never bought a spyderco. I like the benchmade axis lock. I want to try a spyderco out and have no real knife stores local to me. Should I try a tenacious because it’s cheap? Or just go big and buy a PM2 or manic 2 since knives are much cheaper than guns?(keep in mind that I only had a griptilian since surfing this section of PF. Since then I’ve ordered another benchmade, a civivi elementun, and a Doug Ritter hogue all within the last two weeks lol)
Anyone converted from benchmade to spyderco and not missed the axis lock?
Try a Manix lightweight with the ball bearing lock.
pangloss
06-13-2021, 04:23 PM
I want to like Benchmade more, but if I had to pick just one brand, I think I'd go with Spyderco. I love the axis lock, but the Spydercos always feel better in hand to me. I had a Manix 2 for a while and it was awfully close to perfect. I gave it to a mover who was almost crushed by my gun safe. One day I'll replace it.
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Navin Johnson
06-13-2021, 04:25 PM
PM2 or Delica are great starting points.
Both are available with high-end steels I would not get the standard version unless it's a beater.
I have several axis knives and for me they are fine if I'm carrying in the back corner of my front pocket of a pair of jeans. However I frequently carry IWB or loose in a pocket and much prefer the stay closed bias of a lockback. I have had several different types of non-lock back knives open IWB or in my pocket.
The axis is fun to fidget with though.
I also much prefer a knife with a ricasso or a choil in the event of a lock failure to protect my hand. (Many will say the axis will not fail but rest assured if it gets debris in it it can fail to lock open)
So for me it is not the type of lock but rather what features it brings to the table. The best feature an axis knife has is the ability to close it quickly IMHO
Clusterfrack
06-13-2021, 06:18 PM
Anyone converted from benchmade to spyderco and not missed the axis lock?
I prefer Spyderco to Benchmade, although the Spyderco P'Kal I have in my pocket right now has an equivalent lock to the axis. (See the image below). Most of Benchmade's blade shapes aren't to my taste.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210609/0d7aa185175f0b1bcccf8fdab591383e.jpg
gato naranja
06-13-2021, 06:43 PM
Anyone converted from benchmade to spyderco and not missed the axis lock?
I can't say I don't miss that (insert "A" word) lock, but here at Casa del Gato, we dropped Benchmade for good and moved on. We just have a few Mini Griptilians left, but have moved to Spyderco.
(And certain USA-made Kershaws which have endeared themselves to us.)
Jared
06-13-2021, 07:07 PM
I never bought a spyderco. I like the benchmade axis lock. I want to try a spyderco out and have no real knife stores local to me. Should I try a tenacious because it’s cheap? Or just go big and buy a PM2 or manic 2 since knives are much cheaper than guns?(keep in mind that I only had a griptilian since surfing this section of PF. Since then I’ve ordered another benchmade, a civivi elementun, and a Doug Ritter hogue all within the last two weeks lol)
Anyone converted from benchmade to spyderco and not missed the axis lock?
My first good knife was a Benchmade Griptilian. My second was a Spyderco Para 3. I haven’t bought a Benchmade for myself since (though I did buy my wife a Bugout). Short version is the Compression Lock is the equal of the Axis lock in every way IMO, and I prefer Spyderco’s ergonomics, blade shapes, etc etc etc to anything I’ve seen from Benchmade. I thought the Bugout I bought for the wife would make me have to have my own, but it kinda did the opposite.
I will go against the pack and say do Not buy a Manix 2 if you are expecting an Axis lock clone. The concepts are similar but Spyderco’s caged ball bearing lock is stiffer. I actually prefer it and have no issues closing any of my four Manix family members one handed. Others have complained mightily that they couldn’t disengage the lock one handed.
I think the best models to get into Spyderco are probably the Paramilitary 2, the Delica 4, and the Para 3 Lightweight.
All that said, if you love your Benchmade knives and see no reason to switch, rock on. I have nothing against their knives, I’ve just found something else I like a lot better.
javemtr
06-14-2021, 02:14 AM
The Axis lock patent expired recently, so there are a number of makers out there now using an equivalent cross-bar type lock. If you want to stick with the Axis lock but move away from Benchmade, I recommend the Doug Ritter RSK Mk1-G2 manufactured by Hogue. Some people claim it is better than Benchmade's offerings. Sold exclusively at Knifeworks: https://knifeworks.com/kw-exclusives/
I personally can vouch for the Spyderco Manix, both the G10 and Lightweight versions. They are not a small knife and use up a lot of pocket space due to their width, but I just forget the Lightweight is there, due to its incredibly light weight, duh ;)
The great advantage of Spyderco's ball bearing lock is that you will never break the lock's coil spring, unlike Benchmade's more fragile omega springs.
Duelist
06-14-2021, 02:57 AM
I never bought a spyderco. I like the benchmade axis lock. I want to try a spyderco out and have no real knife stores local to me. Should I try a tenacious because it’s cheap? Or just go big and buy a PM2 or manic 2 since knives are much cheaper than guns?(keep in mind that I only had a griptilian since surfing this section of PF. Since then I’ve ordered another benchmade, a civivi elementun, and a Doug Ritter hogue all within the last two weeks lol)
Anyone converted from benchmade to spyderco and not missed the axis lock?
A Manix 2 is a great knife, though not exactly a small one - but neither is the Tenacious. I really adore my Manix, which was from a sprint run in M4. The Para 2 would be a great slicer, too, at about the same size. For a more compact blade, try the Para 3 or Sage with compression lock, or a Delica or Native. No warts on the CPM S30V or VG-10, but there are other steels available if you need to spend more money.
If you just want to try out the ergos and Spyderhole without making a large investment, anything from the Tenacious series would do. They are made of a decent Chinese steel that is at least the equivalent of AUS-8: very corrosion resistant, easy to maintain, not a standout for edge retention, but takes a great edge and holds it well enough for most realistic day-to-day needs. My Tenacious is a spare nowadays, and rides in an emergency bag most of the year and my hunting kit in the fall.
rob_s
06-14-2021, 07:40 AM
I never bought a spyderco. I like the benchmade axis lock. I want to try a spyderco out and have no real knife stores local to me. Should I try a tenacious because it’s cheap? Or just go big and buy a PM2 or manic 2 since knives are much cheaper than guns?(keep in mind that I only had a griptilian since surfing this section of PF. Since then I’ve ordered another benchmade, a civivi elementun, and a Doug Ritter hogue all within the last two weeks lol)
Anyone converted from benchmade to spyderco and not missed the axis lock?
Benchmade fanboy here…
My ultimate dream knife is a Bemchmade axis lock with a Spyderco thumb hole.
You can, or could, get a Griptillian this way, which means a fine, but I want something a bit more svelte and less bulky.
For me, when I buy a Spyderco it’s because they offer something that doesn’t. Like the Salt series which, IME, has no equivalent in the BM line when it comes to rustproofing.
spyderco monkey
06-14-2021, 10:30 PM
Did some palm tree pruning today in the front yard.
For those who haven't used a Spyderco fully serrated blade, it's extremely satisfying. Like a pocket knife crossed with a chainsaw.
Palm fronds are a tough, slippery material, but the SE just blasted through them with ease. A lot more effective then trying to cut through the fronds with my PE Military, which tends to slide off the fronds and requires just pressing straight through them with sheer muscle power.
https://i.ibb.co/xzKcFYP/Spyderco-Ayoob-serrated-palm-tree-saw-domination.jpg
Jared
06-15-2021, 07:11 PM
Did some palm tree pruning today in the front yard.
For those who haven't used a Spyderco fully serrated blade, it's extremely satisfying. Like a pocket knife crossed with a chainsaw.
Palm fronds are a tough, slippery material, but the SE just blasted through them with ease. A lot more effective then trying to cut through the fronds with my PE Military, which tends to slide off the fronds and requires just pressing straight through them with sheer muscle power.
https://i.ibb.co/xzKcFYP/Spyderco-Ayoob-serrated-palm-tree-saw-domination.jpg
One of the dudes over on Spyderco forum got me to give SE a try for some more tasks than I’d ever considered before. I’m becoming a convert in a hurry.
spyderco monkey
06-16-2021, 02:47 AM
One of the dudes over on Spyderco forum got me to give SE a try for some more tasks than I’d ever considered before. I’m becoming a convert in a hurry.
Yes, I saw that, that was a great thread. Glad to see SE is making a bit of a resurgence in the Spyderco community. Spyderco has always done great serrations, but their latest 'gen' of serrations use a shallower profile that really work wonderfully and are less prone to snagging.
Sal mentioned in one of those threads that what really killed the SE market was not so much the improvement in blade steels mitigating the need for edge retention, but so many other companies making inferior SE patterns that it tanked the popularity of SE blades across the board.
You do lose some precision in cutting with SE, but the increase in overall increase in cutting power is pretty outrageous. Its kinda like going from 9mm to full house .357 mag, theres some 'whoa factor' at first.
noguns
06-18-2021, 11:18 AM
I appreciate all the suggestions. I decided that if I’m going to diversify I might as well purchase a USA made icon. I don’t miss the axis lock. I find manipulating the compression lock and thumb hole very easy.
Since looking at this subsection of PF I’ve tried an assortment. Civivi elementum, hogue ex01 automatic that I kind of regret buying because I’m in VA and I believe illegal to carry, BM Osborne mini, and now this PM2! Lol. Talk about an enabling website!
I love how knives are cheaper than guns!
Is there such thing as a G19 equivalent for folding knives?
rob_s
06-18-2021, 11:24 AM
I appreciate all the suggestions. I decided that if I’m going to diversify I might as well purchase a USA made icon. I don’t miss the axis lock. I find manipulating the compression lock and thumb hole very easy.
Since looking at this subsection of PF I’ve tried an assortment. Civivi elementum, hogue ex01 automatic that I kind of regret buying because I’m in VA and I believe illegal to carry, BM Osborne mini, and now this PM2! Lol. Talk about an enabling website!
I love how knives are cheaper than guns!
Is there such thing as a G19 equivalent for folding knives?
Wrong thread, but I'd say Griptilian (https://www.benchmade.com/550-s30v.html).
Within the context of the thread, I'd say Paramilitary 2 (https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP81GP2/spyderco-c81gp2-paramilitary-2-folding-knife-s30v-satin-plain-blade-black-g10-handles) or, more likely, the Delica (https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP11FPBK/spyderco-c11fpbk-delica-4-flat-ground-vg10-satin-plain-blade-black-frn-handles).
blues
06-18-2021, 11:25 AM
I love how knives are cheaper than guns!
SOME knives are cheaper than guns.
(Don't ask me how I know.)
noguns
06-18-2021, 11:33 AM
Wrong thread, but I'd say Griptilian (https://www.benchmade.com/550-s30v.html).
Within the context of the thread, I'd say Paramilitary 2 (https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP81GP2/spyderco-c81gp2-paramilitary-2-folding-knife-s30v-satin-plain-blade-black-g10-handles) or, more likely, the Delica (https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP11FPBK/spyderco-c11fpbk-delica-4-flat-ground-vg10-satin-plain-blade-black-frn-handles).
If Bill and Ted loaned me their phone booth I might do the same thing I did with pistols. I bought a g19 gen 3 and tried nearly every platform only to come back to an rtf2 gen 3.
Likely I’ll buy several more knives and come back to either a very custom BM grip with M4 steel or a PM2 with the ?max? Steel blade! Lol
Guerrero
06-18-2021, 11:58 AM
Is there such thing as a G19 equivalent for folding knives?
I'd say PM2 (although I don't currently own any - just a little too big for my personal tastes), possibly the criminally-underrated Native 5 FRN.
gato naranja
06-18-2021, 01:48 PM
the criminally-underrated Native 5 FRN
Glad I am not the only one who feels this way. Not only are they a great folder in a useful size, I consider them one of the best looking Spydercos.
1911Nut
06-18-2021, 01:49 PM
"possibly the criminally-underrated Native 5 FRN."
I own and carry a few Spyderco and Benchmade folders.
But the Native seems to be the one in my pocket most of the time. It's the real sweet spot for EDC for me, and mine has served me well.
And it has been completely lost on three different occasions, including twice in the Coconino National Forest and once in the high desert near Roosevelt Lake in AZ in locations where no reasonable person would ever expect to see them again, only to be found.
Some Karma attached to that knife.
blues
06-18-2021, 01:54 PM
I only own the big brother of the Native, the Shaman...but it is a useful pattern in either size. (This one is M4.)
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Guerrero
06-18-2021, 01:58 PM
I only own the big brother of the Native, the Shaman...but it is a useful pattern in either size.
I think it would be easier to list which knives you don't own.
;)
blues
06-18-2021, 02:08 PM
I think it would be easier to list which knives you don't own.
;)
Surprisingly, it'd be a pretty long list. And I'm actually, slowly, downsizing as the mood strikes or someone posts a "knife wanted" ad for a particular piece on bladeforums.
In fact, I'm in negotiations to sell a Hinderer to a forumite there as we speak.
Duelist
06-18-2021, 03:56 PM
I'd say PM2 (although I don't currently own any - just a little too big for my personal tastes), possibly the criminally-underrated Native 5 FRN.
Glad I am not the only one who feels this way. Not only are they a great folder in a useful size, I consider them one of the best looking Spydercos.
"possibly the criminally-underrated Native 5 FRN."
I own and carry a few Spyderco and Benchmade folders.
But the Native seems to be the one in my pocket most of the time. It's the real sweet spot for EDC for me, and mine has served me well.
And it has been completely lost on three different occasions, including twice in the Coconino National Forest and once in the high desert near Roosevelt Lake in AZ in locations where no reasonable person would ever expect to see them again, only to be found.
Some Karma attached to that knife.
IIRC, the first Spyderco I ever bought was a Native - the FRN one that WalMart sold for a while for $39. I lost it once and it stayed lost: My wife borrowed it for a church girls’ summer camp and I haven’t seen it since except when it needs to be cleaned, lubed, or (rarely) sharpened. She loves telling a story about when she went back to college after the kids were in school and someone needed a knife for something, and little blond Susie Homemaker pulls out the Native. Everyone acted like either she’d pulled out the coolest knife they’d ever seen (most of the guys) or a broadsword (most of the gals).
She mostly carries a Dragonfly now, but the Native is still hers.
Jared
06-18-2021, 07:15 PM
Is there such thing as a G19 equivalent for folding knives?
Spyderco’s G19 just about has to be the Delica. It’s just about the epitome of a no flash, all substance folding knife with great ergos, great performance, all that fun stuff. Yes, the Paramilitary 2 is a better knife. I think the Manix 2 is a better knife. But for the person that wants to “just buy this, use it, be happy with it” the Delica is just about perfect. It’s sub $100 price makes it an awesome gateway Spyderco also, without going to the Tenacious line. I think the Tenacious line is fine, but I balk at Chinese knives when there are better options from the US and Japan.
Chuck Whitlock
06-18-2021, 07:52 PM
IIRC, the first Spyderco I ever bought was a Native - the FRN one that WalMart sold for a while for $39. I lost it once and it stayed lost: My wife borrowed it for a church girls’ summer camp and I haven’t seen it since except when it needs to be cleaned, lubed, or (rarely) sharpened. She loves telling a story about when she went back to college after the kids were in school and someone needed a knife for something, and little blond Susie Homemaker pulls out the Native. Everyone acted like either she’d pulled out the coolest knife they’d ever seen (most of the guys) or a broadsword (most of the gals).
She mostly carries a Dragonfly now, but the Native is still hers.
I have two of those Wal-Martian Natives, and they are my EDC knives. I like the early blades with the 1/2 false back edge.....reminds me of the old Pacific Cutlery (pre-Benchmade) Weehawk blade.
spyderco monkey
06-18-2021, 10:20 PM
Is there such thing as a G19 equivalent for folding knives?
Realistically the Endura/Delica series was the G17 / G19 of knives.
-Have been on the market since 1990 (Glock 19 introduce 1988)
-Helped popularize polymer handles
-Were extensively carried by law enforcement and other professionals, as well as widespread civilian carry
-Basic model has been continuously refined over 4 design generations (vs 5 generations of Glock)
-Similar ergonomics across both models allows a user trained with one to easily pick up the other
Delica Gen 1 vs Delica Gen 4; we see a similar design similarity yet evolution from Gen 1-5 of the Glock (same shape and size, improved texture, durability, and ergonomic refinements over the years.)
http://realisticpreparedness.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/SpydercoDelica2.jpg
javemtr
06-19-2021, 06:02 AM
I only own the big brother of the Native, the Shaman...but it is a useful pattern in either size. (This one is M4.)
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Is that one of the BladeHQ exclusive Shamans with M4 and natural G10 that you dyed blue?
blues
06-19-2021, 08:04 AM
Is that one of the BladeHQ exclusive Shamans with M4 and natural G10 that you dyed blue?
It is that knife...but it was dyed by the original owner, (bladeforums member), I bought it from at a very nice price in the "exchange" some time back. (Well under what they were going for from Blade HQ...and it was new in every respect but for the dye job.)
The color is not quite as "deep" as depicted in the image. More of a "royal", and the opposite side is slightly lighter, but not enough to matter.
rob_s
06-19-2021, 09:18 AM
Realistically the Endura/Delica series was the G17 / G19 of knives.
-Have been on the market since 1990 (Glock 19 introduce 1988)
-Helped popularize polymer handles
-Were extensively carried by law enforcement and other professionals, as well as widespread civilian carry
-Basic model has been continuously refined over 4 design generations (vs 5 generations of Glock)
-Similar ergonomics across both models allows a user trained with one to easily pick up the other
Delica Gen 1 vs Delica Gen 4; we see a similar design similarity yet evolution from Gen 1-5 of the Glock (same shape and size, improved texture, durability, and ergonomic refinements over the years.)
http://realisticpreparedness.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/SpydercoDelica2.jpg
I kinda forgot about those plastic clips on there. Any idea when they phased those out? I seem to recall them still looking that way around… maybe late 90s to early 00s? I worked at a gun shop at that time and my memory is that the plastic clip was one thing that turned me off Spyderco and on to Benchmade at that time.
Ah, the old days:
AR vs AK
Ayood vs Cooper
1911 vs Glock
Spyderco vs Benchmade…
:p
GearFondler
06-19-2021, 09:34 AM
Some of you may appreciate this...
Back in the late 2000's homemade pimp jobs were all the rage so I gave it a go myself. This is an original Manix that I carried for years and then pimped out in 2008. I loved the knife but also equally loved the Spyderco Chinook. I eventually realized that I could sort of combine the two models favorite features of mine... The blade of the Manix with the handle of the Chinook. I accomplished this by reshaping the Manix scales to as close an approximation of the Chinook as was possible. I then carved the scales to help disguise the tool marks I left in the G10.
I also stonewash finished all the metal parts, the blade, scales, lock, clip, and hardware.
What I ended up with is an incredible knife that feels great and performs even better. My only regret is that I didn't do a better job carving the scales... It's harder than it looks to do it right and this was my one and only attempt. I don't carry it anymore but it still puts a smile on my face.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210619/bf03fe81bc3006d9dba5f7a5e3c9c7ef.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210619/b2cddedafe345ce1ea280686ad8ecbe1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210619/0c4d627449aef7f7bf65926a2de4855a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210619/1a987db4620053f47ae77c79b8692c3f.jpg
Jared
06-19-2021, 10:13 AM
Realistically the Endura/Delica series was the G17 / G19 of knives.
-Have been on the market since 1990 (Glock 19 introduce 1988)
-Helped popularize polymer handles
-Were extensively carried by law enforcement and other professionals, as well as widespread civilian carry
-Basic model has been continuously refined over 4 design generations (vs 5 generations of Glock)
-Similar ergonomics across both models allows a user trained with one to easily pick up the other
Delica Gen 1 vs Delica Gen 4; we see a similar design similarity yet evolution from Gen 1-5 of the Glock (same shape and size, improved texture, durability, and ergonomic refinements over the years.)
http://realisticpreparedness.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/SpydercoDelica2.jpg
Yes, I agree with this. Endura/Delica definitely make a good folding knife analog to G17/G19.
Jared
06-19-2021, 10:47 AM
Ah, the old days:
AR vs AK
Ayood vs Cooper
1911 vs Glock
Spyderco vs Benchmade…
:p
That’s Easy:
AR
Ayoob
Glock (but I’d rather have an option 3)
Spyderco
Exiledviking
06-19-2021, 03:20 PM
My two newest Spyderco knives.
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Jared
06-19-2021, 08:17 PM
My two newest Spyderco knives.
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Dig that Native!
Blades
06-19-2021, 08:21 PM
My two newest Spyderco knives.
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Oh! That Subvert is very nice! When you are tired of it let me know. :)
spyderco monkey
06-19-2021, 11:54 PM
I kinda forgot about those plastic clips on there. Any idea when they phased those out? I seem to recall them still looking that way around… maybe late 90s to early 00s? I worked at a gun shop at that time and my memory is that the plastic clip was one thing that turned me off Spyderco and on to Benchmade at that time.
Ah, the old days:
AR vs AK
Ayood vs Cooper
1911 vs Glock
Spyderco vs Benchmade…
:p
Those were the good old days. :cool:
So I had to look it up; the 'Delica 1' existed until 1999, when the the Delica 3 was introduced with metal pocket clip and other refinements. My first Spyderco was the Delica 3 circa 2002. (The Spyderco Native was the first Polymer model with metal clip, released in 1997.)
The 'Delica 2' was introduced at some point in between. It featured a stainless steel handle and pocket clip similar to the Police.
noguns
06-26-2021, 09:39 PM
This is becoming a problem. Bought several. These are just the latest that are spyderco.
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Gun Mutt
07-25-2021, 04:51 PM
Frig, finally bent the pocket clip on my Salt. Spyderco doesn't seem to list replacement clips on their site without submitting a pic, so I've done that, but I've only recently learned that there are other clips on the market.
Is there something better than another OEM clip?
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Willard
07-25-2021, 04:56 PM
Is there something better than another OEM clip?
I have a few and factory is good enough for me, so no first hand experience, but https://www.lynchnw.com/clips is what the real aficionados seem to prefer.
Exiledviking
07-25-2021, 06:36 PM
I have a few and factory is good enough for me, so no first hand experience, but https://www.lynchnw.com/clips is what the real aficionados seem to prefer.Lynch is good-to-go. I have several of his pocket clips.
Half Moon
07-26-2021, 07:33 AM
My research says Lynch is the way to go for after market. They've been out of Black Cerakote long deep clips for awhile but finally got them back in stock maybe 3 weeks back. Picked up a couple and happy so far. Quick shipping. Included extra screws. The long deeps go in or out of pocket smoother than the stock clips but seem very stable and stay in place. Granted it's only been a handful of days...
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blues
07-26-2021, 07:59 AM
MXG Gear (https://mxggear.com/collections/spyderco) may also be a possible solution.
Frig, finally bent the pocket clip on my Salt. Spyderco doesn't seem to list replacement clips on their site without submitting a pic, so I've done that, but I've only recently learned that there are other clips on the market.
Is there something better than another OEM clip?
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I have an Endura that uses that clip. It unscrewed itself in a pocket. I recovered all the parts but then lost one side of the screw before I got it reassembled.
Clusterfrack
07-26-2021, 09:27 AM
Gun Mutt, I recommend contacting Spyderco CS. They were very helpful and responsive when I needed a replacement wave stud for a P'Kal (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?42208-Spyderco-fanboy-thread&p=1224280&viewfull=1#post1224280).
Wyoming Shooter
07-28-2021, 12:46 PM
Lynch is good-to-go. I have several of his pocket clips.
As do I. Good stuff.
Jared
08-14-2021, 07:35 PM
I bought this one yesterday.....
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In buying it, I broke a rule I had made, a rule that I’d never buy a Spyderco made in China. Not when there are so many awesome knives from them made in Colorado and Japan. But I was in the store, already had a Golden made model in my hand when I said screw it, gimme that one too.
It’s a $49 knife. It can be a beater. I can practice my sharpening skills on it. I can do stupid stuff with it that I wouldn’t risk my expensive PM2 on. Hell, for that matter I think it looks cool. It’s stiffer in action than my other Spyderco models, but centering and lockup are spot on. The ergonomics are excellent for my hands. It may actually end up being a hell of a knife for fifty bucks. I know a lot of online reviews of it are glowing.
And just so I didn’t completely abandon my normal principles, I did buy that USA made knife too.
Duelist
08-14-2021, 08:13 PM
I bought this one yesterday.....
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In buying it, I broke a rule I had made, a rule that I’d never buy a Spyderco made in China. Not when there are so many awesome knives from them made in Colorado and Japan. But I was in the store, already had a Golden made model in my hand when I said screw it, gimme that one too.
It’s a $49 knife. It can be a beater. I can practice my sharpening skills on it. I can do stupid stuff with it that I wouldn’t risk my expensive PM2 on. Hell, for that matter I think it looks cool. It’s stiffer in action than my other Spyderco models, but centering and lockup are spot on. The ergonomics are excellent for my hands. It may actually end up being a hell of a knife for fifty bucks. I know a lot of online reviews of it are glowing.
And just so I didn’t completely abandon my normal principles, I did buy that USA made knife too.
That is a good knife.
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I shouldnt have started reading this thread. Seriously its way too many really good looking knives. This week I found myself at a LGS looking at knives. They normally have a pretty good selection 3 displays of new knives and 1 of used knives all of them usually chock full. I guess because of covid they may have had enough to fill one. I think thats the only thing that stopped me from walking out with a new knife.
Jared
08-23-2021, 08:27 PM
I shouldnt have started reading this thread. Seriously its way too many really good looking knives. This week I found myself at a LGS looking at knives. They normally have a pretty good selection 3 displays of new knives and 1 of used knives all of them usually chock full. I guess because of covid they may have had enough to fill one. I think thats the only thing that stopped me from walking out with a new knife.
blues got me man. He started posting knife pics and all of a sudden PF wasn’t just a place that costs me money on guns, holsters, belts..... no, now pistol-forum would cost me money on knives 😞
blues
08-23-2021, 08:41 PM
blues got me man. He started posting knife pics and all of a sudden PF wasn’t just a place that costs me money on guns, holsters, belts..... no, now pistol-forum would cost me money on knives 😞
I'm sure I have no idea what you are referring to. None. Zilch. Nada.
;)
Irelander
08-23-2021, 09:20 PM
For some reason I suddenly have a hankering for a Zilch knife, but I can't find it. It's driving me crazy cuz I got to have it.:rolleyes:
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Forgot Spyderco had their own thread.
APS-PF
08-24-2021, 10:00 AM
I've loved pocket knives since I was 4 or 5 and got my first "tactical" knife in the early 90s - a Spyderco Endura from cutlery shoppe. I've probably bought over a hundred knives in the last 35 years from all the popular brands and other than swiss army knives, the ones that get carried the most are Spyderco lockbacks. I got into knives years before flicking was a thing, so the stiffness of a lockback doesn't bother me and it also helps keeps the blade closed much better than an axis or compression lock.
When my interests shift to guns or watches and I'm carrying a knife just as a useful tool I most often carry a Native 5 FRN variant. I don't even particularly like choils but I guess the knife just works for me.
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blues got me man. He started posting knife pics and all of a sudden PF wasn’t just a place that costs me money on guns, holsters, belts..... no, now pistol-forum would cost me money on knives 😞
Yes exactly. That darn Blues. Hes the ringleader for sure. But he also has plenty of help.
blues
08-24-2021, 02:15 PM
Yes exactly. That darn Blues. Hes the ringleader for sure. But he also has plenty of help.
https://c.tenor.com/9a3KtjjjotQAAAAC/sergeant-schultz-see-nothing-hear-nothing-know-nothing.gif
Jared
08-24-2021, 07:35 PM
76220
Forgot Spyderco had their own thread.
I still love that pic!
Willard
08-24-2021, 08:09 PM
76220
Forgot Spyderco had their own thread.
Lon, Your police looks different...is that a darkened finish and what is the protrusion on the side of the blade?
Lon, Your police looks different...is that a darkened finish and what is the protrusion on the side of the blade?
Mine is one of the more limited run of blackened POLICE models that were made back in the 90’s. I just did a google search and saw some of them (NIB) are going for $800+ (asking price) on eBay. Crazy. I think the protrusion is just the wear mark at the end of the swedge where it thickens out. I’ll try to post up some more pics later.
Edit: found this old spyderco forum thread:https://forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.php?t=48163
Willard
08-24-2021, 08:47 PM
Mine is one of the more limited run of blackened POLICE models that were made back in the 90’s. I just did a google search and saw some of them (NIB) are going for $800+ (asking price) on eBay. Crazy. I think the protrusion is just the wear mark at the end of the swedge where it thickens out. I’ll try to post up some more pics later.
Edit: found this old spyderco forum thread:https://forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.php?t=48163
Thanks for the reply and the additional info...interesting stuff and a beautiful knife. Maybe they'll do another release someday.
Thanks for the reply and the additional info...interesting stuff and a beautiful knife. Maybe they'll do another release someday.
Here ya go.
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rob_s
08-25-2021, 03:01 PM
Mine is one of the more limited run of blackened POLICE models that were made back in the 90’s. I just did a google search and saw some of them (NIB) are going for $800+ (asking price) on eBay. Crazy. I think the protrusion is just the wear mark at the end of the swedge where it thickens out. I’ll try to post up some more pics later.
Edit: found this old spyderco forum thread:https://forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.php?t=48163
Jesus, I knew I should have grabbed one of those back then!
Jesus, I knew I should have grabbed one of those back then!
No kidding. If I woulda ever suspected it’d be worth $$ I’d have just left it in the box and stuck it away and bought something else to use at work.
Jared
09-11-2021, 09:46 PM
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I’ve had the Military for a while, the Police is my latest. Gonna be honest here, I’ve wanted a Police model for a while. I also had a hang up with it, being it had POLICE in sizable block letters in the blade. Well, a thread in the photo gallery, a PM from a trusted forum member, and a conversation with a neighbor who is a deputy sheriff finally assuaged my concerns that my non-sworn self would look like a loser wannabe carrying such a knife.
I wish I hadn’t waited so long, as I love the knife. The tip shape has been excellent for piercing things. The combination edge has enough serrations and enough plain surface to actually be useful in both modes. Only downside it really has is its heavy, but you don’t buy a knife with stainless handles and expect it to be the same weight as a Bugout.
newyork
11-13-2021, 11:44 AM
https://i.imgur.com/UMlbmTn.jpg
I've been eyeballing a Native 5 in CPM SPY27 for a little while, but being a newish and exclusive steel... I've hesitated. Trying to decide if its worth the small premium over the less fancy models out there. I'd be lying if I said the color wasn't a big reason I like this particular knife. I've also wanted a USA made Spyderco for a while.
https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C41CBL5/Native-reg-5-FRN-CPM-reg-SPY27-trade-/1879
I'm not a knife nut, but I like and appreciate well made tools. I'll use and carry this, if I buy it, not put it on the shelf. I've carried a saber grind VG-10 Delica 4 for quite a while now, and it's served me well, other than I feel like edge retention could have been a bit better. It cleans up quick, and gets plenty sharp. I like the FRN handle texture, and I appreciate the light weight and thinness of the Delica. Native looks to be a fraction larger, but not by a lot. FWIW, I think the Delica "fits" me well, where the Endura would be too large. I have not handled an Endela. I've also sorta been eyeing the Para 3 in the same steel/color as the Native above.
Bah... decisions, decisions...
blues
11-21-2021, 02:33 PM
Larrin Thomas on SPY27:
Conclusions and Summary
CPM SPY27 is a steel produced by Crucible exclusively for Spyderco. The steel looks somewhat similar to S35VN but with increased Nb and N, decreased C and V, and a 1.5% cobalt addition. The resulting steel is expected to have similar hardness and corrosion resistance to S30V and S35VN. The edge retention is likely a small step down from S35VN. The toughness is probably a bit better than S35VN. And sharpening is probably a bit easier to S35VN.
So, basically a good, solid knife steel if nothing particularly exotic. If you like the pattern and the color...go for it.
Larrin Thomas on SPY27:
I had actually found his website through an earlier link you had put in this thread... most of it was way deeper of a dive than I could fathom, but still fascinating.
It being a not too fancy, but good steel, seems to be the consensus. I should just jump in with both feet. :cool:
blues
11-21-2021, 02:52 PM
I had actually found his website through an earlier link you had put in this thread... most of it was way deeper of a dive than I could fathom, but still fascinating.
It being a not too fancy, but good steel, seems to be the consensus. I should just jump in with both feet. :cool:
If you're using a pocketknife for normal, everyday tasks, it should be just fine. Let us know how you like it.
Totem Polar
11-21-2021, 04:20 PM
“Anybody else feel like a little... giggle... when I mention my fwiend...
Canis...
Dickus?”
-Pontius Pilate, Life of Brian
Jared
11-21-2021, 04:21 PM
I've been eyeballing a Native 5 in CPM SPY27 for a little while, but being a newish and exclusive steel... I've hesitated. Trying to decide if its worth the small premium over the less fancy models out there. I'd be lying if I said the color wasn't a big reason I like this particular knife. I've also wanted a USA made Spyderco for a while.
https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C41CBL5/Native-reg-5-FRN-CPM-reg-SPY27-trade-/1879
I'm not a knife nut, but I like and appreciate well made tools. I'll use and carry this, if I buy it, not put it on the shelf. I've carried a saber grind VG-10 Delica 4 for quite a while now, and it's served me well, other than I feel like edge retention could have been a bit better. It cleans up quick, and gets plenty sharp. I like the FRN handle texture, and I appreciate the light weight and thinness of the Delica. Native looks to be a fraction larger, but not by a lot. FWIW, I think the Delica "fits" me well, where the Endura would be too large. I have not handled an Endela. I've also sorta been eyeing the Para 3 in the same steel/color as the Native above.
Bah... decisions, decisions...
FWIW, being an unapologetic Spyderco fanboy, I felt I had to have something in SPY27 as it was their exclusive steel. Yes, this is the mind of an addict or an idiot I guess, but I paid all my bills first.
I bought a Manix 2LW in SPY27 and have been satisfied. It’s hard for me to distinguish it from S30V or S35VN so it’s not like it’s some super duper incredible steel. It has been solid though and I don’t regret the purchase.
WobblyPossum
11-21-2021, 04:41 PM
I was hoping the Factory Seconds sale was going to be online again this year. Sadly, it was back to in person only. Maybe one day I’ll actually drive up there and try it in person.
noguns
12-05-2021, 03:24 PM
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I love my spy27 native. It’s definitely easier to sharpen than S30v and holds its edge at least as long. I think the size of the native 5 along with the weight make it like carrying a g26.
I also got this dragonfly in k390 used on eBay. It was dull and my first attempt at freehand sharpening. It was surprisingly easy to sharpen.
If I wasnt too lazy I’d probably unload all the folders I bought and keep my stretch 2 and dragonfly in k390 along with the native 5. If I had to have only one folding knife it would definitely be the native 5 in spy27. I believe spyderco did not intend for their spy27 to be as good as it is. I believe it is underrated.
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