Hill people vs spiritus fanny pack?

[03RN]

http://hillpeoplegear.com/Products/CategoryID/1/ProductID/129#pagetop
Vs
https://www.spiritussystems.com/fanny-sack-pouch-mk2/

This will be for running.

Im leaning towards the spiritus because of price but if there is something im missing that would make the hpg bag more stable im all ears.

Thanks

[Cory]

You may also want to consider RDRgear if price is a factor. They also have 2 sizes. I have no personal experience with them, but if I ever get the money freed up that's where I intend to turn.

-Cory

[EPF]

No experience with the Spiritus FP but I have been using the HPG quite a bit walking in the woods with the kids lately to kill time.

Looking at the pics, the spiritus is a double pocket with some Velcro and cordage and the HPG has a lot more features. For my needs I appreciate having three separate pockets. One specifically for CC and designed for a clean draw. Another in front of it with pouches for mags, flashlight, etc, and a third in the front for phone, keys, and other items. I like being able to pull out my phone without exposing my pistol to others. The HPG seems designed to hold the weight of a pistol close to the body while allowing access to the other pockets in a way that doesn’t “off balance” the pack when you open them spilling contents like some standard ones do. I like to be able to dig around in the front pockets fully unzipped without the gun shifting or pulling away from the body. You can tell A LOT of thinking went into the chest rig it’s based on.

I have other items from spiritus and their stuff is good to go. I sure it’s a great fanny pack, but if your purpose is to carry a gun plus other items I’d recommend the HPG. If a single main pocket works for you it should be fine.

Also, FWIW it seems that neither will carry a large gun.

[Cory]

Double tap.

[spelingmastir]

I’ve been looking at these plus some other options this week for the same general purpose. Have you considered the hill people running harness?

[JHC]

I used to do a lot of running and tried a few fanny packs; terrible bouncing fails all.

I have found the HPF rig could be adjusted snug enough to behave itself on a run. Just don’t face plant wearing one.

[03RN]

I’ve been looking at these plus some other options this week for the same general purpose. Have you considered the hill people running harness?

I just dont want to run with something on my chest. I dont doubt its more stable

[03RN]

I used to do a lot of running and tried a few fanny packs; terrible bouncing fails all.

I have found the HPF rig could be adjusted snug enough to behave itself on a run. Just don’t face plant wearing one.

Did you mean their chest pack? Their fanny pack is new this year.

A lot of the times while trail running ill wear old cut off cammie shorts and just wear a belt which works fine with my aiwb holster. Running in nylon shorts or with no shirt is when id wear the fanny pack.

[BillSWPA]

Before osteoarthritis in my knees made me reconsider running, I ran for many years wearing a fanny pack. The key to keeping it from bouncing is to adjust the waist belt to fit snugly.

Unfortunately I cannot comment on the specific choices, but I am following this thread with interest for when my last remaining Tommy’s Gun Pack inevitably wears out.


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[BehindBlueI's]

3rd option:
Smaller gun: https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Survival-Systems-Marathon-GunPack/dp/B07CJN5HHB
Larger gun: https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Survival-Systems-Marathon-GunPack/dp/B07DFRJBQX

I've been well satisfied with the larger version and carrying a Shield. The water bottles are mostly an affectation as they are tiny, but they also take some of the "probably a gun in there" focus away.

[03RN]

3rd option:
Smaller gun: https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Survival-Systems-Marathon-GunPack/dp/B07CJN5HHB
Larger gun: https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Survival-Systems-Marathon-GunPack/dp/B07DFRJBQX

I've been well satisfied with the larger version and carrying a Shield. The water bottles are mostly an affectation as they are tiny, but they also take some of the "probably a gun in there" focus away.

That looks good too. I think ive almost bought it before too but was looking when the hpg fanny pack wasn't available so i wanted to wait until it came out so i can see how they really look.

I think the hpg reputation for bullet proof gear has me leaning that way.

[BehindBlueI's]

That looks good too. I think ive almost bought it before too but was looking when the hpg fanny pack wasn't available so i wanted to wait until it came out so i can see how they really look.

I think the hpg reputation for bullet proof gear has me leaning that way.

I've had mine for roughly a year and it's still "as new". My biggest complaint is how tight the front pocket is. When I broke my old S8 and moved to an S10+ it barely fits in the pocket.

[Bratch]

Did you see this old thread? Tommy’s and Hawke get mentioned regularly.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?15873-Who-do-we-like-for-fanny-packs/page3

[Grouse870]

I run with an hpg runners kit bag a lot. Doing trail runs and on the road. I like it a lot. It’s really not bad at all running. But I get the not having stuff on your chest. I ran with a fanny pack and it wasn’t for me.

[Doc_Glock]

I tried a bunch of bags for running. None work well due to bouncing IMO and I am not a pounder. I do run on difficult terrain often.

Ultimately my best solution is a sturdy belt (Wilderness or such) with OWB holster around 4:00 (Raven Perun or such). Put regular nylon shorts and running shirt on top. This rig allows for up to G19 weight guns in my experience and works even more comfortably with lighter guns.

But heck, if you find the definitive bag please let us know. I am pretty happy with this solution and gave up buying bags.

[EPF]

This will be for running



Thinking about it for running after reading the other posts, I agree I wouldn’t want to run with the HPG, Tommy’s, or others I’ve tried. You certainly can run ok with it, but I don’t think I’d want to put in miles on a regular basis. If I were to start running again and wanted to carry a gun, I would personally use the chest version or just appendix carry.

The HPG seems about as good as it gets for a dedicated gun fanny pack/sling bag but I personally wouldn’t choose it for fitness running.

[JHC]

Did you mean their chest pack? Their fanny pack is new this year.

A lot of the times while trail running ill wear old cut off cammie shorts and just wear a belt which works fine with my aiwb holster. Running in nylon shorts or with no shirt is when id wear the fanny pack.

I did mean their chest rig. I didn’t know they offered a fanny pack.

[littlejerry]

I haven't used either product, but run a decent amount and have tried to carry in thr past. Now I just run with a knife.

Of those 2 id definitely go for the HPG bag due to the wider straps and thin pocket specifically made for carrying a gun.

I have the Pistol Wear bellyband type carrier. It works OK for small and slim guns, definitely not good with a Glock 19.

Ultimately I gave up on carrying a gun if I'm going for an actual run. I typically wear an Ultimate Direction utility belt for longer or more remote runs where I want to carry a phone and or other gear. You could probably carry a small 380 or j frame in one but I haven't tried. Its also not adjustable. Its very low profile, breathable, and generally awesome though. Its the only belt type accessory I've ever been able to run with and not feel like I was adjusting my cadence to manage bounce.

[jeffhughes]

I tried a bunch of bags for running. None work well due to bouncing IMO and I am not a pounder. I do run on difficult terrain often.

Ultimately my best solution is a sturdy belt (Wilderness or such) with OWB holster around 4:00 (Raven Perun or such). Put regular nylon shorts and running shirt on top. This rig allows for up to G19 weight guns in my experience and works even more comfortably with lighter guns.

But heck, if you find the definitive bag please let us know. I am pretty happy with this solution and gave up buying bags.

Tenicor ARC would work well for this application

[JTMcC]

What gun are you going to carry in it?

Both of those options have the belt toward the top of the bag, and neither have the small compression straps from the outer front part of the bag back to the belt.
I'd rather have the belt more midline (to avoid flopping) of the bag and I really like the compression straps (again, to pull it in tight & be more stable).
I've never used a "gun specific" model but have used several regular old outdoors type with various guns, velcro'd a light holster inside.

I only use them now for rainy days but they've worked pretty well for me. With 5" & 3 1/2" steel 1911's and scandium N-frame. The 5" gun is more work to get right.

[03RN]

Probably a k frame. I think my 4" standard barrel m64 is 30 oz loaded. Round butted and hammer spur removed.

I suppose i could buy more running shorts with belt loops for the same amount of money.

An airweight j frame would probably be ideal.

[BehindBlueI's]

Probably a k frame.

Then I withdraw my recommendation. It's very stable but the trade off is it's narrow front-to-back. I don't like how it fits a revolver at all.

[JTMcC]

Probably a k frame. I think my 4" standard barrel m64 is 30 oz loaded. Round butted and hammer spur removed.

I suppose i could buy more running shorts with belt loops for the same amount of money.

An airweight j frame would probably be ideal.

A 30 oz K-frame would be no problem whatsoever.

[03RN]

Then I withdraw my recommendation. It's very stable but the trade off is it's narrow front-to-back. I don't like how it fits a revolver at all.

Thanks. Good to know. Might see if my wife wants it for her shield

[03RN]

A 30 oz K-frame would be no problem whatsoever.

Good to know. Thanks

[JAD]

I ran six miles today with a pistol wear PT-2 bearing a CCO. It manages a LWC about as well. I’ve been using one for several years.

I try to carry a gun as often as I can, but holy fuck is it a good idea on a run.

[JAD]

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[Whiskey_Bravo]

I have two of the Spiritus SACKs. I use them as grab and go trauma/IFAK bags. The overall design is very compact. Like a lot smaller than they look. I was surprised when I opened the package the first time.

The webbing for the waistband on the SACK is very thin. I would have to double check but I think sub 1". I have only run with mine slung over my neck and shoulder when I had to deploy it with my rifle. If I was going to run for distance and on a regular basis, I would want the HPG or a bag designed for running first.

My SACK with medical items:
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[03RN]

I have two of the Spiritus SACKs. I use them as grab and go trauma/IFAK bags. The overall design is very compact. Like a lot smaller than they look. I was surprised when I opened the package the first time.

The webbing for the waistband on the SACK is very thin. I would have to double check but I think sub 1". I have only run with mine slung over my neck and shoulder when I had to deploy it with my rifle. If I was going to run for distance and on a regular basis, I would want the HPG or a bag designed for running first.

My SACK with medical items:
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Thank you

[Mirolynmonbro]

I bought one of these for my wife for the gym but she never used it https://flipbelt.com/

I took it out for a jog the other day and wore it like a belly band and clipped my j frame / Harry's holster inside the belt and it kept it very sturdy. I don't think it would work for anything heavier but it flopped a lot less than a fanny pack

[JTMcC]

I ran six miles today with a pistol wear PT-2 bearing a CCO. It manages a LWC about as well. I’ve been using one for several years.

I try to carry a gun as often as I can, but holy fuck is it a good idea on a run.

Thanks!
I'd never seen those before, I'm going to get one for my Wife/Chic to try.

Does the "belt" part ride completely over your shorts/pants?
It looks like it's fine against skin? For everyday use not running?

[RoyGBiv]

I used to do a lot of running and tried a few fanny packs; terrible bouncing fails all.

I have found the HPF rig could be adjusted snug enough to behave itself on a run. Just don’t face plant wearing one.

Agree.

HPG runners kit bag (http://hillpeoplegear.com/Products/CategoryID/1/ProductID/2) is way better for any kind of locomotion, IMO. Got mine for cycling, but it's great for coronatrekking as well. Bonus that you can carry way more stuff if you want to. I added a small med kit with TQ, hand sanitizer, face mask, gerber dime, flashlight, etc. I like my Tommy's Gun Pack, but, only for a stroll.

[RoyGBiv]

I ran six miles today with a pistol wear PT-2 bearing a CCO. It manages a LWC about as well. I’ve been using one for several years.

I try to carry a gun as often as I can, but holy fuck is it a good idea on a run.

Looks like a modernized belly band. Interesting.
https://www.pistolwear.com/pt-2-concealment-holster/

[JAD]

Thanks!
I'd never seen those before, I'm going to get one for my Wife/Chic to try.

Does the "belt" part ride completely over your shorts/pants?
It looks like it's fine against skin? For everyday use not running?

You can run it over or under your shorts. It’s black and so are my shorts, so I run it over and generally high enough to be concealed by my t shirt, which helps it pick up less sweat. It is perfectly comfortable against skin.

It holds the gun in a mostly horizontal position and is inferior to any sort of real holster for both concealment and a secure draw. It is all soft neoprene so I do not fee comfortable with condition 1; I carry in 3 with it. The draw is poke ass slow nohow.

However, it conceals thin service pistols well enough and doesn’t bounce with a high power, which is pretty awesome. I’ll try to do a video tomorrow.

[Navin Johnson]

The PT-2 would be OK under a loose shirt for riding or running. If your abs stick out farther than your pecs then it looks weird otherwise. Super slow to draw but you can carry real gun. It will get very sweaty.

When I bike ride ( i don't run) a J in an old school belly band works well if just in a t shirt.... for me. Been meaning to try a 43x.

Going to try a HPG chest bag soon....seems like it would work well and not look goofy while riding.

[Mirolynmonbro]

I have one of those pistol wear belts for a sub compact if anyone wants to try it

[RoyGBiv]

Going to try a HPG chest bag soon....seems like it would work well and not look goofy while riding.

I feel like the chest bag unavoidably stands out in an urban environment. I decided to just go with it. Got mine in bright red, put a flag and volunteer patch on it and hang my HAM radio on it when cycling. I get waves I didn't get cycling AIWB. I assume people think I'm in the FD or EMS. Could just be they're rooting for the old guy to make it up the hill.

[Shoresy]

I feel like the chest bag unavoidably stands out in an urban environment. I decided to just go with it. Got mine in bright red, put a flag and volunteer patch on it and hang my HAM radio on it when cycling. I get waves I didn't get cycling AIWB. I assume people think I'm in the FD or EMS. Could just be they're rooting for the old guy to make it up the hill.

I really wish they'd made their non-tactical colors (e.g. teal) in regular production rather than the limited run. IMO, it would stand out significantly less if it wasn't coyote and covered in PALS webbing.

[Hizzie]

Phlster has been teasing a new product that might be of interest to you. Paul just posted about it the other day on IG.

p/B_ItVpupdV3

[Grouse870]

I’ve been running with mine for about 2 years now (runners kit bag in ripstop green) never been given a second look. Been running in different neighborhoods, park trails, actual trails.

[03RN]

Phlster has been teasing a new product that might be of interest to you. Paul just posted about it the other day on IG.

p/B_ItVpupdV3
Hmmmm, i may need to wait

[Doc_Glock]

I’ve been running with mine for about 2 years now (runners kit bag in ripstop green) never been given a second look. Been running in different neighborhoods, park trails, actual trails.


Ha. I had a guy run past me the other day with a heavy appearing kit bag. He wasn’t fooling anyone. I even took a photo when he passed the second time. To be clear. Good for him for carrying, but anyone the slightest bit alert knows what is in these bags.

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[03RN]

I do run in armor a lot too

[JHC]

Hmmmm, i may need to wait

That's a very interesting tease. I look forward to it. re that IG post . . . I dunno #70 is a lot for a training weight. I had gathered the idea was not to get much over #45 and to go farther or go faster but going heavier is not such a great long term plan.

[psalms144.1]

That's a very interesting tease. I look forward to it. re that IG post . . . I dunno #70 is a lot for a training weight. I had gathered the idea was not to get much over #45 and to go farther or go faster but going heavier is not such a great long term plan.Looks like a better solution than the old weight vest I used 30+ years ago. It weighs 70 pounds with all the lead weights in it, take them out (usually 2# at a shot) and tailor the weight to your desires...

[TAZ]

Phlster has been teasing a new product that might be of interest to you. Paul just posted about it the other day on IG.

p/B_ItVpupdV3

Do tell... the image thingie on your post no workie for me.

[Hizzie]

Do tell... the image thingie on your post no workie for me.

I’m not privy to the details. You can check out Paul Sharp’s IG page. He has a teaser pic of the setup poking out of his waistband.

[BillSWPA]

Please do not add extra weight to your runs. I would not want to see knees unnecessarily damaged.

[Doublestack45]

I really wish they'd made their non-tactical colors (e.g. teal) in regular production rather than the limited run. IMO, it would stand out significantly less if it wasn't coyote and covered in PALS webbing.

Did a couple miles after work today with the runners kit bag. I really try to pare it down to just the gun, a 19 with 17 round reload, small handheld, license, phone, and house key. That load has been completely doable with the runners bag and even without the extra shock cord it doesn't move annoyingly if you find the right spot for your body.
Foliage color, because it just looks plain and grey. I'm glad I didn't go with any of their smaller footprint bags as I don't think I could pull off anything except a J frame in those.
I lost interest in the belt pack(same size as the runners) as I'm just not into the fanny pack thing. Even if the chest pack gets an additional stare, I think the utility far outweighs the concern.

[BehindBlueI's]

Do tell... the image thingie on your post no workie for me.

He's wearing sweatpants and has what looks to me to be a clinch pick and full size Glock appendix carried somehow or other.

[TAZ]

He's wearing sweatpants and has what looks to me to be a clinch pick and full size Glock appendix carried somehow or other.

Thanks. Images no workie on my phone for some reason. Ironically my quoted message displays the images... Go figure


Looks VERY interesting and worth a wait maybe.

[Shoresy]

Did a couple miles after work today with the runners kit bag. I really try to pare it down to just the gun, a 19 with 17 round reload, small handheld, license, phone, and house key. That load has been completely doable with the runners bag and even without the extra shock cord it doesn't move annoyingly if you find the right spot for your body.
Foliage color, because it just looks plain and grey. I'm glad I didn't go with any of their smaller footprint bags as I don't think I could pull off anything except a J frame in those.
I lost interest in the belt pack(same size as the runners) as I'm just not into the fanny pack thing. Even if the chest pack gets an additional stare, I think the utility far outweighs the concern.

FWIW, HPG have stated (on their forum (https://www.hillpeoplegear.com/Forum/forumid/22/postid/3347/scope/posts#3347)) that the snubby packs are designed to hold a "slick" Glock 19 (no light, RMR, etc). Whether or not that actually works based on individual build and other stuff loaded in, I don't know (I've only used the recon sized, and I find that size to suit me well).

[Crazy Dane]

Ha. I had a guy run past me the other day with a heavy appearing kit bag. He wasn’t fooling anyone. I even took a photo when he passed the second time. To be clear. Good for him for carrying, but anyone the slightest bit alert knows what is in these bags.

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I have circled back to this several times and now have been able to gather my thoughts and would like to address the bolded type above. "He wasn't fooling anyone." He may not have fooled anyone that knows but for John Q Public, I don't think they have a clue and I back that up with my experience wearing a kit bag. I have a HP original V2 kit bag in foliage green and do a lot of rucking on popular trails and many times I have been asked about my neat bag, almost called a chest pack every time. I have even showed off it a few times unzipping the main compartment showing off the first aide gear, fire making essentials and cliff bars or wrappers of such depending on when I was asked. I was even asked if I thought you could carry a gun in one, once. I always direct them to the Hill People web site and I am sure many of them got a surprise when or if they did visit.

This brings me to the drift. I don't think I mind that like minded people that know "that bag has a gun in it" to know. If you are switched on enough to identify bags that are designed to conceal a firearm, I would like to think we would be like minded. I have spotted other people concealing whether by printing or them telegraphing it with tells and I have said that bag has a gun in it to myself more then once but I haven't ever had to consider any of them a threat. I'm still processing this and as always YMMV.

[BehindBlueI's]

I have circled back to this several times and now have been able to gather my thoughts and would like to address the bolded type above. "He wasn't fooling anyone." He may not have fooled anyone that knows but for John Q Public, I don't think they have a clue and I back that up with my experience wearing a kit bag. I have a HP original V2 kit bag in foliage green and do a lot of rucking on popular trails and many times I have been asked about my neat bag, almost called a chest pack every time. I have even showed off it a few times unzipping the main compartment showing off the first aide gear, fire making essentials and cliff bars or wrappers of such depending on when I was asked. I was even asked if I thought you could carry a gun in one, once. I always direct them to the Hill People web site and I am sure many of them got a surprise when or if they did visit.

This brings me to the drift. I don't think I mind that like minded people that know "that bag has a gun in it" to know. If you are switched on enough to identify bags that are designed to conceal a firearm, I would like to think we would be like minded. I have spotted other people concealing whether by printing or them telegraphing it with tells and I have said that bag has a gun in it to myself more then once but I haven't ever had to consider any of them a threat. I'm still processing this and as always YMMV.

I don't really care if 'the herd' knows I'm carrying unless I'm trying to get in somewhere that I'm welcome but my little friend isn't. I care if somebody who's considering doing me harm does. If I'm going to be the victim of a random crime, it's almost certainly going to be a robbery of some type (I'm not pretty enough for the other types) and that's sort of like a fire triangle. You can't have a fire if one element of the fire triangle is missing, and you don't have a crime if one element of the robbery triangle is missing. Robber(s), Victim(s), a risk vs reward the Robber(s) is willing to assault the Victim(s) over. A gun can get you targeted. I've seen it happen and detailed it here a few times. Most folks get by with not concealing because they never present themselves to someone willing to kill them over the gun. Sometimes that triangle is completed, though, and often with bad results. People get robbed on Armslist transactions, the fact you are armed doesn't dissuade some suspects and the ones it doesn't are the more dangerous ones.

[03RN]

I dont really care what i look like. A chest carrier is just more of a hassle. Picking up a kid, doing pushups, wearing body armor, etc

[03RN]

Just ordered the hpg fanny pack. I really hope it works. I got a new pair of running shoes yesterday so am going to be putting some miles on them.

[snow white]

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Just got my HPG runners kit bag in. These pictures are from after my first run with it carrying a 638, my phone and a tourniquet. The bag kept tight to my chest the whole time and did well distributing the weight. It was comfortable and didn't give me any hot spots or have any uncomfortable chafing.One other thing is I felt the kit back actually helped with my posture when running. I'm pretty new to running so take my little review with a grain of salt. I think this will also be an awesome little day hike chest pack too!

EDIT: just remembered this thread was about the fanny pack, my apologies for the slight drift.

[Rex G]

My wife uses chest-mount HPG kit bags, during volunteer work which includes disaster drills associated with CERT and the county OEM. One is “foliage” and one is the SAR-oriented red/black. (One at at a time; she does not use both at once.) At the locations and venues where weapons are forbidden, she has told me that she is a magnet for extra attention at the check points, with neither color being more nor less likely to get the attention of security types.

She does have a handgun carry license, but is using the HPG kit bags for medical supplies and/or the moulage equipment that is used to simulate injuries. She is very careful to avoid carrying a handgun where it is forbidden for a licensee to carry firearms.

I have used a kit bag less often, and have not really cared what people thought, because I have been legal, due to official status, though that does not mean I have worn them “at” people. If I remember correctly, I have usually had photography gear with me, when wearing a foliage-colored kit bag, and, with earth-toned clothing, have not turned many heads. My knees have not allowed me to really “run” for a number of years, so I have not worn a kit bag with running/jogging clothing.

[03RN]

Hopefully the bag gets here soon. Running with a gun in my camelback is not a good option. We always start running more this time of year.

6.5 miles today
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[03RN]

Got it today. Build quality goes without saying.

Does not fit a 4" k frame. M9a1 might fit. 2.75" m66 does, so does a g19.

Ill weigh out the 66 and 2 speed strips and a g19 plus a mag to see which ill wind up with. I so seldom shoot or carry my g19 i might use this as its home. I shoot it so well considering i hardly touch it.

[03RN]

Why did the chicken cross the road?

To get to the idiots house.





Knock knock

Whose there?

Chicken




Thought i should post a dad joke sense im wearing a fanny pack

[03RN]

7mile run this morning. It bounced a little, especially if i was sprinting but it wasn't bad. Ill try tightening it a little bit.

Im really happy with it. I got sandwiches at a grocery store after and it felt good having a gun while wearing running shorts.

I might see if my m64 will fit with slimmer grips but the g19 makes a pretty good fanny pack gun.

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[RoyGBiv]

I might see if my m64 will fit with slimmer grips but the g19 makes a pretty good fanny pack gun.

Are you using anything to secure the G19 inside the gun compartment?
Something simple like this made a big difference for me..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009NX5D66/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[03RN]

Ive got a kydex trigger guard tied to an internal loop. I didn't think it was the gun bouncing in the pocket but it might have been.

Tried the pachymer compact pros on the m64. Nope, just to long

[RoyGBiv]

Ive got a kydex trigger guard tied to an internal loop. I didn't think it was the gun bouncing in the pocket but it might have been.

Tried the pachymer compact pros on the m64. Nope, just to long

I did the kydex guard as a first try.... Changed to that Maxpedition insert. The hook backing grabs the loop inside the kit bag and keeps my G19 from moving in the pouch. It does add some thickness vs the kydex though.

I'm not a runner, so, can't say that it's perfect for running, but I found it more stable for cycling, exercising.

[Shoresy]

I did the kydex guard as a first try.... Changed to that Maxpedition insert. The hook backing grabs the loop inside the kit bag and keeps my G19 from moving in the pouch. It does add some thickness vs the kydex though.

I'm not a runner, so, can't say that it's perfect for running, but I found it more stable for cycling, exercising.

Same (for running). Having used both, the Maxpedition is better for movement control as well as drawing and reholstering.

[Crazy Dane]

I ordered a JMCK universal for myP365, took the clip off and wrapped it in the hook portion of self-adhesive Velcro.

[03RN]

I ordered a JMCK universal for myP365, took the clip off and wrapped it in the hook portion of self-adhesive Velcro.

Actually i might beable to take an old holster to do something like that. Good idea. Thanks

[03RN]

I did the kydex guard as a first try.... Changed to that Maxpedition insert. The hook backing grabs the loop inside the kit bag and keeps my G19 from moving in the pouch. It does add some thickness vs the kydex though.

I'm not a runner, so, can't say that it's perfect for running, but I found it more stable for cycling, exercising.

I think the fanny pouch is smaller than the chest ones. There's really no movement in the pouch.

A few runs in and im really happy so far

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

I think the fanny pouch is smaller than the chest ones. There's really no movement in the pouch.

A few runs in and im really happy so far

Apparently the HPG Belt Pack (fanny pack) is the same size as their Snubby Kit Bag. I'm really interested in seeing what you think of the 19/Belt Pack combination once you've got some more time on it.

[MGWS]

I run in downtown Seattle with a HPG runners kit and I feel it definitely stands out. There is a definite price to pay for the ergonomics and comfort in terms of "conceal-ability". If you are even little versed in CCW then it's obvious whats in my chest pouch. Sometimes I do 4-5am runs and do not care about being absolutely covert due to the majority of street people wondering around. I do wish they made the ripstop versions as a regular option and added loop to the back of the large compartment.

For day hikes I have a kit bag married to the tarahumara bag and feel it doesn't draw too much attention in the wilderness. I am revising that setup and probably sell that and run a hip pack with a regular daypack as I am not running through the wilderness so bounce is less of an issue and will blend in with other hikers better.

[rd62]

I've been considering a kit bag for use on day hikes. Interestingly, I was in a local convenience store this week when an urban youth entered wearing a very similar bag. It caught my attention and I asked him about it as both I wanted to hear what he said and also eyeball it a bit more to see if I could discern whether it had access to the main compartment. I asked if he wore it cycling knowing that was unlikely but thinking he may wear it on a motorcycle. I couldn't note any clues to indicate that he was rither carrying a weapon in it nor that it was intended for such. He commented he used it like a fanny pack to carry his stuff. I didn't catch the brand but it was the first time I'd seen a similar design. Are these more common than I realize and if so what is there intended use?

[MGWS]

I've been considering a kit bag for use on day hikes. Interestingly, I was in a local convenience store this week when an urban youth entered wearing a very similar bag. It caught my attention and I asked him about it as both I wanted to hear what he said and also eyeball it a bit more to see if I could discern whether it had access to the main compartment. I asked if he wore it cycling knowing that was unlikely but thinking he may wear it on a motorcycle. I couldn't note any clues to indicate that he was rither carrying a weapon in it nor that it was intended for such. He commented he used it like a fanny pack to carry his stuff. I didn't catch the brand but it was the first time I'd seen a similar design. Are these more common than I realize and if so what is there intended use?

There have been high end fashion designers using the style and the people using it as high fashion have no concept of the design origins. https://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/search/items.aspx?view=180&scale=284&q=chest%20bag

[BillSWPA]

Since I have largely switched from running to bicycling for cardio, I have noticed that fanny packs seem to wear out around the bottom edge, where they are in constant contact with my legs. I suspect a chest pack may be preferable for that reason.

[Joe S]

There have been high end fashion designers using the style and the people using it as high fashion have no concept of the design origins. https://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/search/items.aspx?view=180&scale=284&q=chest%20bag

Note: boring fashion stuff. Don't read if you don't care.

Not necessarily. Men's fashion has always leaned heavily on military wear for inspiration, particularly in the US.

Like a lot of trends, it started over in Asia as an extension of the "tech-ninja" look, with a nod to a decade or two ago, when you saw urban/hip-hop youth wearing assault vests and jungle style LBE setups. It comes on the tail end of the resurgence of the butt/waist pack, which is often worn thrown over one shoulder and across the back or chest. From there, the next logical step was an actual chest pack.

The Japanese, who often start these sorts of trends, pull heavily from the Milsim look from time to time. Also, American men's style, deprived of the aspiration to nobility/aristocracy that is part of European history, has always pulled heavily from from workwear and military uniforms. Very obvious if you look at trends in suiting vs. the British school, the resurgence of the keffiyeh/shemagh in the GWOT, cargo pants, jeans, etc.

Most people don't know the "original" purpose of an HPG style chest pack, but they saw Kanye West wearing one. Doesn't make it blend in more unless you fit the look otherwise.

[Grouse870]

I really like my original kit bag v2 for hiking. Very convenient and handy. I’ve used it for carrying binos and various other items. Buy one there worth it.

[RoyGBiv]

There have been high end fashion designers using the style and the people using it as high fashion have no concept of the design origins. https://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/search/items.aspx?view=180&scale=284&q=chest%20bag

Was out for a long walk the other day and had 2 women complement me (in passing at distance) on my bright red "chest bag". WifeGBiv was with me so it's unlikely they were hitting on me. 😅

[03RN]

Just ordered my wife a teal one.

[03RN]

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[MGW]

I haven't used either product, but run a decent amount and have tried to carry in thr past. Now I just run with a knife.

Of those 2 id definitely go for the HPG bag due to the wider straps and thin pocket specifically made for carrying a gun.

I have the Pistol Wear bellyband type carrier. It works OK for small and slim guns, definitely not good with a Glock 19.

Ultimately I gave up on carrying a gun if I'm going for an actual run. I typically wear an Ultimate Direction utility belt for longer or more remote runs where I want to carry a phone and or other gear. You could probably carry a small 380 or j frame in one but I haven't tried. Its also not adjustable. Its very low profile, breathable, and generally awesome though. Its the only belt type accessory I've ever been able to run with and not feel like I was adjusting my cadence to manage bounce.

Re the utility belt: What do you mean it’s not adjustable?

[littlejerry]

Re the utility belt: What do you mean it’s not adjustable?

No waist size adjustment. Many sizes available. Read their sizing instructions, measure twice.

I did recently try my wife's G42 in the larger pocket. It actually worked quite well. With a trigger guard holster it could be a good solution