300BLK Gold Dots

[El Cid]

Looks like Speer is expanding their Gold Dot line.

210gr Subs: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022391565?pid=878650

150gr Soft Point: https://www.targetsportsusa.com/speer-gold-dot-pd-300-blackout-ammo-150-grain-soft-point-24462-p-110308.aspx?keyword=300%20gold%20dot

Given how well GD’s perform in most other calibers I’m curious to see how these fare.

[Mike C]

About fucking time. Curious as to why not a 110gr version.

[El Cid]

About fucking time. Curious as to why not a 110gr version.

I wondered the same. Given their reputation I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt. Hell if they come in stock this year I’ll send DocGKR a box to test.

[Mike C]

Don't get me wrong I'm not second guessing them because I don't know a fraction of what their experts do. I'm sure it will be solid preforming for sure. I'd love to see it tested proper though. I'm sure it would be very interesting.

[El Cid]

Don't get me wrong I'm not second guessing them because I don't know a fraction of what their experts do. I'm sure it will be solid preforming for sure. I'd love to see it tested proper though. I'm sure it would be very interesting.

I didn’t take it that way at all. Like you, I’ve noticed the preferred anti-personnel 300BLK seems to trend toward the lighter end of the spectrum. Most of the 147-150gr stuff I see is often grinder ammo.

[Nightvisionary]

The 150 grain has been available for several years now. Seems to work well.

[Corse]

The 210 gr may be interesting. The 150 gr is not a good weight for 300 blk. It is too heavy to get any velocity and too light to be interesting for subsonic. Maybe Speer has engineered some good terminal performance into it, but the external ballistics won’t be as good as the 110-125s.

[Nightvisionary]

The 210 gr may be interesting. The 150 gr is not a good weight for 300 blk. It is too heavy to get any velocity and too light to be interesting for subsonic. Maybe Speer has engineered some good terminal performance into it, but the external ballistics won’t be as good as the 110-125s.

I don't believe they did. Without resorting to a pistol style HP bullet with a large polymer tip as Barnes did the bullet will always be stuck in that 1900-2200 FPS threshold for minimum expansion. It's interesting that Speer went with a 125 grain Gold Dot bullet for the 7.62x39 which gives slightly better velocity than the 300 Blk.

[Rick R]

Winchester began offering a 150gr “Deer” load a couple years ago. I haven’t seen any reports on how well it performs.

https://winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Rifle/Deer-Season-XP/X300BLKDS

I have killed one large buck with a 125gr SST out of my 16” carbine and the damage was impressive. Based on what I’ve seen I’d be open to a 150gr Gold Dot loading if it’s near 2,000fps at the muzzle.

[Corse]

Winchester began offering a 150gr “Deer” load a couple years ago. I haven’t seen any reports on how well it performs.

https://winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Rifle/Deer-Season-XP/X300BLKDS

I have killed one large buck with a 125gr SST out of my 16” carbine and the damage was impressive. Based on what I’ve seen I’d be open to a 150gr Gold Dot loading if it’s near 2,000fps at the muzzle.

I went and looked at Speer’s website. They are advertising 1900 FPS. I didn’t find a test barrel length, although it says it’s optimized for barrels shorter than 16”.

Does the SST expand when fired at 300 blk velocities? I swear I saw tests where it performed like it was a FMJ.

[Rick R]

125gr SST over a book max load of W296 from a 16” barrel. The deer was 70 yards away and stepped forward just as I fired. Hit front left leg passed thru and entered chest leaving a entry hole big enough to stick two fingers in. It didn’t exit though I never did find it. Top of heart and both lungs were junked. He was kicking, trying to get up so I shot him in the neck and that bullet passed thru ending the festivities.

The guys over at the .300 Blackout forum like the SSTs and they are extremely accurate.

[Tokarev]

Looks like Speer is expanding their Gold Dot line.

210gr Subs: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022391565?pid=878650


Curious about these as well.

The Hornady expanding subsonic works in gel. Sort of. It more "deforms" rather than "expands."

Has Speer figured something out or are they just making a subsonic Gold Dot for something to sell?

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[Brian T]

I wonder if the 150gr .300BLK offering is the same bullet as their 150gr .308Win offering.

[El Cid]

I wonder if the 150gr .300BLK offering is the same bullet as their 150gr .308Win offering.

Hmm. Good question. My favorite.308 is Remington’s 150gr CLUB. I’d love to see that bullet loaded into 300BLK.

[rob_s]

Curious about these as well.

The Hornady expanding subsonic works in gel. Sort of. It more "deforms" rather than "expands."

Has Speer figured something out or are they just making a subsonic Gold Dot for something to sell?

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Im curious too, but the listing does say...
“ Optimized for peak FBI protocol performance though barrels shorter than 16 inches”
And
“ Velocity Rating Subsonic”

Seems as though, like everything else, we need to know the velocity threshold and then the velocity at various lengths. Neither of which seem to be readily available for any of these loads...

[Corse]

I wonder if the 150gr .300BLK offering is the same bullet as their 150gr .308Win offering.

That’s what I was wondering too.

[EricP]

There are two item numbers for 150 grain bullets on the Speer we site:

308150BLKGDB - 300 Blackout

308150GDB - just marked .308

They have different ballistic coefficients.

https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/bullets/rifle-bullets?page=0&facets=computed_primaryusagetosku_sm=Personal%20Pr otection|computed_skucaliber_s=.308