SPRs, Mk12s, Recces, SDMRs and SAM-Rs, oh my!

[TGS]

Mid-range ARs of various flavors.

Post'em here and discuss.

This is something I've wanted for a while. Scope came in the other day. Was going to make the journey out to Peacemaker today, but realized I had forgotten some work that I needed to stay home and bang out.

Centurion Arms:
16" Crane-spec Recce barrel with AEM-5 Brake and Collar (AEM-5 at Hansohn Bros in NFA jail)
12" KAC handguards
PRI Gas Buster Charging Handle
KAC BUIS
Magpul Bipod
Midwest Industries QD Mount with a Trijicon Credo 2-10x36
M16A1 stock
Ergo Grip (not pictured)
Schmid Tool trigger

Rejoice in the (mostly) GWOT goodness.

51796

[NPV]

Ugh don’t do this to me.....

[Clusterfrack]

BCM 18" SS410, Noveske Gen2 Lower, Geissele SD3G trigger, Leupold Mark6 1-6 CMR-W, ADM Recon mount. (Not shown, Surefire Mini)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200318/85fad752643c41552e2831910907a1e6.file

[Medusa]

Someday, I’ll have the parts to finish mine. Getting fidgety but I’ll get them when I get them.

[TGS]

Someday, I’ll have the parts to finish mine. Getting fidgety but I’ll get them when I get them.

What do you still need?

[Medusa]

Parts I could get elsewhere but asked the veteran owned lgs which I like to support where possible to get and they say they ordered. The ambi safety, stock, grip, and the comp. i think they have the small parts kit but all of it is stuff I can get elsewhere if I need to; if they cry uncle and can’t deliver. I did buy the lower from them already so they have some of my custom. If I’m honest it’s not an emergency, I’m just irked by the delay, but these are first world problems and I’m lucky.

[TGS]

Parts I could get elsewhere but asked the veteran owned lgs which I like to support where possible to get and they say they ordered. The ambi safety, stock, grip, and the comp. i think they have the small parts kit but all of it is stuff I can get elsewhere if I need to; if they cry uncle and can’t deliver. I did buy the lower from them already so they have some of my custom. If I’m honest it’s not an emergency, I’m just irked by the delay, but these are first world problems and I’m lucky.

OK, so they're on order for you then?

I have an A2 stock and A2 grip you can have if you were going that route for the build. Just shoot me a PM with your address if you end up wanting them.

[Medusa]

OK, so they're on order for you then?

I have an A2 stock and A2 grip you can have if you were going that route for the build. Just shoot me a PM with your address if you end up wanting them.
That’s fuckin rad. Thank you, seriously. Yes, allegedly on order but I may take you up on it if they say they just can’t get stuff or it’ll be much longer.

[LittleLebowski]

OK, so they're on order for you then?

I have an A2 stock and A2 grip you can have if you were going that route for the build. Just shoot me a PM with your address if you end up wanting them.

Yeah, just let us know. We’ve all got drawers full of shit that is unused.

[Grey]

I keep wanting to get a MK12 and actually build out one of my virgin lowers. Always waffling on which "mod" to build. Also looking at precision 5.56 ammo cost makes me wonder if its worth it when I have a 6.5 CM already...

The historical aspect of the mk12 is just awesome though... centurion would be my first stop for a complete upper.

Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

[ranger]

FrankenGun to try 224 Valkyrie. Anderson lower with Magpul PRS stock and Geisselle G2S trigger. BCM upper with Bison Armory 20 inch 224 Valkyrie upper in an ALG 15 inch freefloat tube. Vortex Viper PST Gen 1 6-24x50 MRAD scope. AAC 51T flashhider and suppressor mount. Harris 6-9 bipod.

51860

[ranger]

Same lower with 20 inch 6.5 Grendel upper (Sabre). Another Vortex Viper PST Gen 1 6-24x50 MRAD.

51862

[Clusterfrack]

A Mk12 needs a good load...

Mk262 Mod 1 Clone:
77 gr Berger OTM
24 gr IMR 8208 XBR
Length: 2.264-2.265 in
Primer: CCI CCI#41
Velocity: 2782 fps (18” barrel)

[Sensei]

51863

Here is Noveske N4 SPR in FDE Limited Edition which was released in preparation for the Obamapocalypse of ‘09. The gun cost $900 but is came with a PMAG that was worth $1500...

18" SPR 5.56mm stainless barrel, 1 in 7" twist --Vltor VIS 12" monolithic upper --Extended Feed Ramps --Beadblasted finish on barrel --1/2x28 threads --Vortex flash suppressor --Intermediate length gas system --Geissele SSA two stage trigger --Shot peened and MP tested bolt --Properly staked carrier key --Auto carrier --Mil-Spec receiver extension, staked --H Buffer --Vltor E-Mod buttstock --Tango Down pistol grip --Six Tango Down SCAR rail panel covers --Noveske QD receiver end plate sling mount --One 30 rd mag included --Low-profile gas block pinned to barrel --Flip-up front and rear sights --V-TAC Sling, Khaki --Eagle discreet LE case, with Noveske Logo --ADM 30mm Recon scope mount, Tan --Two QD sling swivels --MI 1913 Heavy Duty Sling mount.

Optics are a Nightforce NXS 2.5-10X42

[Sensei]

Here is another rare one...

51869

Noveske Magpul Recce Limited Edition

16.1" Cold Hammer Forged Barrel, 1 in 7" twist, 5.56mm
--Made of Mil Spec M249 Machine Gun barrel steel, with heavy M249 Chrome Lining,
(appx. 2 times as thick as an M4 or M16)
--Extended Feed Ramps
--Mil Spec Phosphate finish
--MP HP tested
--Mid-Length gas system, no M203 notch
--Shot peened and MP tested bolt
--Properly staked carrier key
--Auto carrier
--H Buffer
--MAGPUL UBR buttstock
--MAGPUL MIAD grip
--Ambi magazine catch
--Ambi bolt release
--Forged Vltor MUR upper receiver featuring an anti-rotation interface with the handguard
--11" free floated handguard w/ 1913 rails
--Low-profile gas block pinned to barrel
--Flip-up front and rear sights
--AAC Blackout non-mount flash suppressor
--Four MAGPUL P-MAG 30rd mags included, black non-window
--V-TAC padded black sling
--QD Sling Swivels
--MAGPUL XTM rail panels, 5 packages
--Eagle LE Discreet Soft Case

[Sensei]

My version of a SCAR-L SPR with a 14” barrel (NFA rules followed) and KAC suppressor.

51871

[Grey]

SENSEI BE FLEXIN!!!!!!!

Really cool rifles, thanks for sharing!

[El Cid]

Top is a PredatAR 762 with a Swarovski Z6i 1-6.

Bottom is a home built (Noveske matched upper and lower with Lilja 16” bbl). It’s also wearing a Z6i 1-6.

https://i.imgur.com/VzjDscZ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Sensei]

Bravo Company USA SDM

51872

[TGS]

How about a SAM-R, Sensei?

[Sensei]

How about a SAM-R, Sensei?

Good question. The pictured BCM build is really a hybrid of the Army’s SDM-R and Marine SAM-R. I began building it about 15 years ago but finished within the past 3 years in its final configuration with the following specs:

20", 1:8 stainless steel Douglas fluted match barrel finished with three coats of Moly-Resin, match-grade, two-stage KAC trigger, Daniel Defense ultra lightweight free-float forearm rail, Harris bipod, MATech back-up iron sight, BCM bolt carrier group, BCM lower.

[TGS]

I keep wanting to get a MK12 and actually build out one of my virgin lowers. Always waffling on which "mod" to build. Also looking at precision 5.56 ammo cost makes me wonder if its worth it when I have a 6.5 CM already...

The historical aspect of the mk12 is just awesome though... centurion would be my first stop for a complete upper.

I waffled on whether to build an MSSR or a Recce'ish Mk12 Mod 1 (which I obviously ended up going with).

I had a roommate and friend during my time in the Marines who became a Filipino Marine Recon guy, and he had positive things to say about their use of the MSSR. Unfortunately he was KIA fighting Islamic extremists, leaving behind a pregnant wife. I might still build one just to have, who knows.

What's interesting is that the Filipino MSSR predates the Mk12, SAM-R and SDM-R. Necessity is the mother of invention, I guess. ;)

[LittleLebowski]

SENSEI BE FLEXIN!!!!!!!

Really cool rifles, thanks for sharing!

Flexing on us poors.

[Default.mp3]

Mid-range ARs of various flavors.What's the general consensus as to what is considered "mid-range"? 200 to 600 yards against an IPSC?

[WobblyPossum]

You guys need to stop spending my money.

[TGS]

What's the general consensus as to what is considered "mid-range"? 200 to 600 yards against an IPSC?

That sounds about right.

[Sensei]

What's the general consensus as to what is considered "mid-range"? 200 to 600 yards against an IPSC?

I define mid-range as what I can consistently hit with a 20” barrel and irons or an ACOG - roughly 400ish meters. Some (ie Marines) would extend that out to 500 meters, but my skill with irons rapidly falls off beyond 300 meters unless I have an ACOG which takes me out to 500. Anything beyond that and I want 8 or 10X of magnification which I consider to be long range. Again, this is a reflection of my abilities and there are probably a bunch of people on this forum who grew up in the Marines where 500 meters were their standard with irons and who will smoke me with an A4. I consider close range anything under 100 meters.

[NGCSUGrad09]

What's the general consensus as to what is considered "mid-range"? 200 to 600 yards against an IPSC?

That's pretty much my definition. 2-600, a skilled shooter might be able to squeeze 7-800 on a good day or with a more capable cartridge.

And for anyone waffling, accurate semi-auto 5.56 guns are super fun if you haven't had the pleasure. They make for great prairie dog killing guns too!

[rjohnson4405]

BCM 18" SS Upper. BCM LPK (like their trigger). SWFA SS Ultralight 2.5-10 with BDC reticle (for 55gr 5.56) in a Bobro mount and Magpul PRO backups. (https://www.primaryarms.com/magpul-mbus-pro-flip-up-rear-sight-black-mag276-blk)

Very light, 1 MOA at 100 with wolf gold for me, but no real accuracy testing.

51896

[Clusterfrack]

When 600 yds isn’t enough...

Alexander Arms 16.5” midlength “Incursion” 6.5 Grendel upper. Burris XTRii 3-15x50 on ADM Recon mount. Palmetto rifle lower, Geissele SSA-E trigger (https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-parts/triggers/154-ssa-trigger-sku100003620-31960-53063.aspx). Seekins Procomp 10X stock. 9.5lbs w/o TBAC Ultra 7 6.5 suppressor (https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/thunder-beast/silencers/6-5mm-caliber/ultra-7-6-5mm/).

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200413/1d5b819cee783c2df9abc64ec9a6bd65.jpg

1110 yds, 24x24” target. 8-10mph wind. The 2 smaller hits near center are the Grendel, using 123gr SMK and 28.3gr 8208XBR at 2450fps.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200413/cb8cf7ee81065b7bac3d6eab089fd7eb.jpg

[Nephrology]

Here are mine. #1 is my "heavy RECCE" , #2 is my "light RECCE".

1. DSG 16" .223 Wylde match grade upper (Ballistic Advantage barrel), Vortex Viper PST 2 1-6x in a Warn XSKEL mount, LaRue MBT2s trigger. Harris SBRM-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Harris-Engineering-S-BRM-Hinged-6-9-Inch/dp/B000JJGXAI/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20HJLLKG03MBZ&dchild=1&keywords=harris+sbrm&qid=1586797462&sprefix=Harris+sbrm%2Caps%2C143&sr=8-1) with Podloc. Furniture is VLTOR EMOD and LaRue APEG PG.

https://i.imgur.com/0DFNEcY.jpg

2. Aero 16" .223 Wylde upper (Ballistic Advantage barrel) , Vortex Viper PST 1-4x in an ADM QD mount, ALG ACT trigger, arisaka handstop (https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/grip-parts/foregrips/m-lok-finger-stop-aluminum-black-sku100016552-74641-158738.aspx). Furniture is Mapgul ACS-L (https://www.primaryarms.com/magpul-acs-l-carbine-stock-mil-spec-black-mag378-blk) and K2 PG.

https://i.imgur.com/SkP3EFq.jpg

I also have a 3rd heavy barreled AR with a 6-24 Vortex Viper on it, but not sure if that qualified for this thread as it is not really "tactical/practical"

[TGS]

I waffled on whether to build an MSSR or a Recce'ish Mk12 Mod 1 (which I obviously ended up going with).

I had a roommate and friend during my time in the Marines who became a Filipino Marine Recon guy, and he had positive things to say about their use of the MSSR. Unfortunately he was KIA fighting Islamic extremists, leaving behind a pregnant wife. I might still build one just to have, who knows.

What's interesting is that the Filipino MSSR predates the Mk12, SAM-R and SDM-R. Necessity is the mother of invention, I guess. ;)

Ah, what the heck, why not.

Figure I can build this out for minimal cost if I do the Gen 3 MSSR, which I find more interesting. I already have a spare scope that is a great match for it, and can just put it on one of the lowers I already have.

So if anyone here is reading this and has a 20" DPMS upper, let me know (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?41814-DPMS-20-quot-5-56-Match-Upper-Freefloat-tubular-handguards&p=1028381#post1028381).

[SecondsCount]

51942

16" Sabre Defense barrel with a lot of other stuff. I've taken it to classes, hunted prairie dogs, shot 3-Gun, and sent 80 grain Match Burners to 1000 yards.

I have another upper that I put on it with an 18" Faxon barrel.
51944

[awp_101]

TGS, how do you like that Magpul bipod?

I've never gotten into the weeds on what makes one variant different from another. I know there's nuances and subtle differences even within a platform but is there a Cliff Notes version of what's what? SAM-R? SDM-R? MSSR? I presume SDM is Squad Designated Marksman so is SDM-R: Squad Designated Marksman-Rifle?

[TGS]

TGS, how do you like that Magpul bipod?

I've never gotten into the weeds on what makes one variant different from another. I know there's nuances and subtle differences even within a platform but is there a Cliff Notes version of what's what? SAM-R? SDM-R? MSSR? I presume SDM is Squad Designated Marksman so is SDM-R: Squad Designated Marksman-Rifle?

The magpul bipod is the tits, plain and simple. Very robust and sturdy, preloads well. Functionally exceptional rotation/pivot built in as well.

SAM-R: Squad Advanced Marksman Rifle. Built buy USMC Precision Weapons Shop (PWS) to fulfill a Marine unit's articulation for a designated marksman rifle. PWS was already building M14 DMRs (that's the official term, it was an M14 with a funky green synthetic stock) however those only went to USMC Security Forces (like the guys who guard nukes). The SAM-R was an M16A4, modified with a Leopold scope, bipod, match trigger, freefloat KAC rails, and a 20" Kreiger match barrel with a low-pro flip up sight gas block. Issued with a KAC suppressor.

SDM-R: Squad Designated Marksman Rifle. Almost identical genesis to the SAM-R, but for an Army division. It was an M16A4 modified by US Army Marksmanship Unit with an ACOG, KAC freefloat rails, 20" barrel but retaining the FSB. No suppressor.

MSSR: Marine Scout Sniper Rifle for the Philippine Marine Corps. It replaced their 1903 Springfields and supplanted their M14s. It's gone through 5 generations, starting very humbly with low grade Tasco hunting scopes to being a purpose built dedicated gun of good quality.

Mk 12/SPR: Built by NSWC-Crane. Used as a short and medium range precision rifle by SOF, and as a DMR by Marine units deploying to Afghanistan circa-2006 and 2010 (maybe more). Replaced the SAM-R in USMC use when a unit opted to purchase DMR type weapons, as only around 100 SAM-Rs were built by PWS and there was no logistics stream to keep them up and running...and PWS was swamped and unable to handle building them regardless. So, some Marine line infantry units "bought" Mk12s from NSWC-Crane, as it was essentially an off-the-shelf solution compared to asking PWS to squeeze blood out of a rock. The Mk12 is most famously portrayed in media by its use among two of the team members in "Lone Survivor". It has two primary generations, Mod 0 and Mod 1 (with some offshoots, as well as original experimental non-type classified versions). They are very similar to the SAM-R, but use an 18" barrel with a chamber paired specifically for the Mk262 round, and use the legendary Ops, Inc 12th model reflex suppressors.

ETA: Mk12s have been supplanted in use in the Marines by the M38 (an HK416 with an outdated Leupold optic the USMC has been using for decades).

[awp_101]

Thanks, that helps a lot!

[TGS]

Thanks, that helps a lot!

You bet.

If you pour yourself a glass of your favored beverage and want to do a deep dive, AR15.com has a 20 page thread on SDM-Rs and SAM-Rs, and a 1000+ page thread on the Mk12.

[ranger]

SDM-R: Squad Designated Marksman Rifle. Almost identical genesis to the SAM-R, but for an Army division. It was an M16A4 modified by US Army Marksmanship Unit with an ACOG, KAC freefloat rails, 20" barrel but retaining the FSB. No suppressor.



3ID out of FT Stewart had M16A4s modified by USAMU in 2004-2006 time frame.

[awp_101]

You bet.

If you pour yourself a glass of your favored beverage and want to do a deep dive, AR15.com has a 20 page thread on SDM-Rs and SAM-Rs, and a 1000+ page thread on the Mk12.

Thanks for the heads up. I stick to the EE over there but I may have to wander out a bit and do some reading.

[ReverendMeat]

Yeah, just let us know. We’ve all got drawers full of shit that is unused.

I'm working on an M16A4 clone and might could use some of that...

TGS Been eyeballing the Centurion for a bit now, curious, what is the purpose of that sleeve looking bit between the gas block and muzzle device?

[TGS]

I'm working on an M16A4 clone and might could use some of that...

TGS Been eyeballing the Centurion for a bit now, curious, what is the purpose of that sleeve looking bit between the gas block and muzzle device?

It's a collar for the Ops Inc 12th Model and AEM5 suppressor. It's a reflex suppressor, so it comes back a few inches over the barrel and the threads to mount it are actually about 1/3rd up up the suppressor or so. When you screw it on to the brake mount, the back of the suppressor tensions against that collar, giving it additional rigidity and a consistent mate.

[littlejerry]

51972

Not a replica of any type. Just an accurate 16" rifle with a good optic. With IMI or CBC 77gr OTM it hovers around 1.25-1.5 MOA for average 10rd groups. Ammo, optic, and shooter can make first round hits on silhouettes out to 600+ yards.

[Nephrology]

51972

Not a replica of any type. Just an accurate 16" rifle with a good optic. With IMI or CBC 77gr OTM it hovers around 1.25-1.5 MOA for average 10rd groups. Ammo, optic, and shooter can make first round hits on silhouettes out to 600+ yards.

What's going on with the sling in that picture? I see 3 mounting points and 2 different color sling materials and I am confused

[hiro]

What's going on with the sling in that picture? I see 3 mounting points and 2 different color sling materials and I am confused

Ching Sling? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ching_sling)

[littlejerry]

What's going on with the sling in that picture? I see 3 mounting points and 2 different color sling materials and I am confused

Its a PIG SMS sling. Ching sling-ish.

https://www.skdtac.com/PIG-SMS-Sling-p/pig.674.htm

Pretty versatile. I've been using it for the last 2-3 years in biathlon and DMR matches. I much prefer the loose tail type quick adjustment of the main sling vs the Vickers style, and the loop portion comes in handy for certain situations and terrain.

ETA a more recent photo practicing social distancing. I decided to check my zero after I installed an adjustable gas block. Was thrilled to go 10 for 10 on this diamond at 175 yards.

[StraitR]

You bet.

If you pour yourself a glass of your favored beverage and want to do a deep dive, AR15.com has a 20 page thread on SDM-Rs and SAM-Rs, and a 1000+ page thread on the Mk12.

The Mk12 thread is the only thing that's taken me back there over the last few years, and I definitely have a drink or two before going.

Ok, maybe I spend a little time in the Mod-H thread too. I'm drawn to that gun like Jerry Springer to hookers.

[Grey]

The Mk12 thread is the only thing that's taken me back there over the last few years, and I definitely have a drink or two before going.

Ok, maybe I spend a little time in the Mod-H thread too. I'm drawn to that gun like Jerry Springer to hookers.

Mod-H is where my heart is... Do not need...

[TGS]

I'm drawn to that gun like Jerry Springer to hookers.

It's hard not to be. For anyone who is connected to the military over the first decade of the GWOT, Mk12s are almost a holy grail.

When we're all old men, we'll be shaking our fists at the youngins with their 1.21 megawatt phased plasma rifles just like the Boomers today and their M1As against our "poodle-shooters"....


...the difference being the Mk12 wasn't a rusty coat-hanger abortion to begin with, I guess.

:o

[StraitR]

It's hard not to be. For anyone who is connected to the military over the first decade of the GWOT, Mk12s are almost a holy grail.

When we're all old men, we'll be shaking our fists at the youngins with their 1.21 megawatt phased plasma rifles just like the Boomers today and their M1As against our "poodle-shooters"....


...the difference being the Mk12 wasn't a rusty coat-hanger abortion to begin with, I guess.

:o

Ain't that the truth.

The only thing that holds me back from selling organs and going ham building Mk12 and Mod-H guns is the lack of a proper suppressor. If I had an AEM-5, I would be balls deep in clone builds. It's why I don't buy one. :p

Otherwise, I would definitely be "that guy" at the 2-gun matches with a painted-up mismatched Mod-H every month. After this Coronacraziness has calmed enough for matches to start back up, I'll be "that guy" with a 300blk PDW. No shame in my gun-game.

[03RN]

52080

18" green mountain barrel. Bcm rail. Need a 1" mount so i can pit a 4x leupold on it

[Sensei]

Flexing on us poors.

You’re not poor. Poor is a mentality. It’s a way of thinking that few ever recover from.

You, are broke..

:D

[Bratch]

Here is my most “precision” AR, it is the one I referenced in this thread as needing some glass
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?41641-Need-a-scope-SPRish
52178

18” WOA SPR barrel, Badger Ordnance Stabilizer foreend, Magpul ACS stock and a Rise Trigger that I won at the Pawnee Run and Gun. I love the idea of this rifle but need to glass it and get to work with it. I have debabted replacing the Badger rail with something newer and lighter but it actually has a pretty decent balance to it.




52179

This is the rifle I used at the Pawnee RnG, it went 3/3 on the 500 yd target. Noveske N4 Recce upper, Vltor EMOD, Geissele SSA trigger and a Mark 4 1.5-5 in a Larue SPR mount.

I’m pretty much stuck in the aughts with my AR technology.

[Maple Syrup Actual]

52186

BCM Recce-16, my go-to general purpose rifle. I used to keep an X300U out front at 12 o'clock and I forget why I removed it - maybe I needed it on a different gun for something.

Anyway the only thing that's a bit of a hindrance on this thing at 300-500 is the reticle on that old TR24. But it does 10-300 so well that I have never changed it.

If it was up to me, I wish the 45 offsets were a little simpler. I believe those are Duecks but it's been a LONG time and I can't swear to it anymore. Anyway I always thought that A2 sights are overkill for offsets and if I were doing it today I'd probably go with the Troys or something, but at the time they were the sights available to me. They're not really necessary coming down from 4x anyway but the odd time they've been handy and I am used to them being there so I keep them around also.

The sling is a Vickers Medic which I really like - basically a Vickers that has quick-adjusts at either end so you can throw it on your back and snug it down if you have to do something with both hands.

[Dennis]

My MK12 MOD1 SPR:

I purchased the upper around 2000 from MSTN and it has been shooting one hole groups at 100Y (when I cooperate) with Hornady TAP 75g and hitting steel easily to 600Y. IMI 77gr is MOA and hits a bit harder/higher at distance. I know I can build something lighter, slimmer, and as accurate now but I just don't feel the need...


MSTN MK12 MOD1 Upper with original spec Compass Lake/Douglass barrel and rumored to be built by an AMU armorer that built original SPRs :)
Leupold M3 3.5-10x Mildot scope in Larue SPR 1.5 Mount (Originally had a more correct ARMS but it wouldn't hold zero)
Blank BDC custom (horribly ugly) engraved by me from 100-700yds using chrono'd speeds and verified at distance.)
VLTOR A5H2 (Was previously an A1 so in this case the A5 really didn't smooth things out, just shortened it up!)
LMT SOPMOD Stock
Magpul MOE+ (I love the grippiness!)
Geisselle SSA-E
Harris Bipod


52212

Dennis.

[sabre675]

https://i.imgur.com/LBEGBSC.jpg

-LMT MWS, cerekote OD Green by Tier One Defense
-5R, SS, 1:12 twist, rifle length gas, KAC Ball milled, ion bonded, by Marvin Pitts, 7.62 Barrel with Surefire Socom
-Geissele SD-E
-KAC panels and LArue segments
-Atlas PRS in a LArue
-Battle Arms Development B.A.D.
-Slash CAR10 buffer
-Magpul MIAD
-Magpul UBR
-KNights Armament 45 degree flip ups
-Leupold MK8 CQBSS H27D
-Scalarworks 34mm Mount
https://i.imgur.com/wVyPmn4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eVfaqEy.jpg

[sabre675]

-LMT MLOK W/MAR-H Lower Receiver
-14.5”,C/L, 1:10, Carbine Length gas, KAC Ball Milled, Ionbond. 7.62 Barrel, w/pinned Surefire Socom, by Marvin Pitts
-ATLAS PRS Bipod in ADM mount
-KAC 5 slot MLOK segment
-Magpul MIAD
-LMT Sopmod
-Slash XH Buffer
Larue MBT2 flat trigger
-Battle Arms Development B.A.D. Safeties
-Vortex Razor GEN3 1-10
-Scalarworks 34mm Mount
https://i.imgur.com/4KpMkNu.jpg

[sabre675]

-LMT MLR W/MARS L
-5R, SS, 13.8”, KAC Ball Milled, Ionbonded, w/Surefire Socom pinned, by Marvin Pitts 5.56 Barrel
-ATLAS V8 bipod on LARue Mount
-KAC 5 slot MLOK segment
-Magpul MIAD
-LMT Sopmod
-Battle Arms Development B.A.D. Safetie
-Young Mfg, M16 BCG, Ionbonded over hard chrome
-LaRue MBT2 Trigger


Still a working title... needs optic, Mount and support gear...

https://i.imgur.com/mvtBrUx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5HkAhkA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/W9e8Z9b.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/T5lBSyd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HnAhX75.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1F084KQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eXzyAJM.jpg

[JRB]

Here I was proud of myself, thinking I just needed a pair of G5 G19's and some classes when I got home. I thought I had all the AR's I needed.

Nope, this thread proved I need at least two more rifles, and I want two more. Thanks, thread!

[rd62]

BCM 18" SS410, Noveske Gen2 Lower, Geissele SD3G trigger, Leupold Mark6 1-6 CMR-W, ADM Recon mount. (Not shown, Surefire Mini)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200318/85fad752643c41552e2831910907a1e6.file

How do you like the BCM 18" SS410 barrel? I'm thinking of picking one up.

[Inkwell 41]

51972

Not a replica of any type. Just an accurate 16" rifle with a good optic. With IMI or CBC 77gr OTM it hovers around 1.25-1.5 MOA for average 10rd groups. Ammo, optic, and shooter can make first round hits on silhouettes out to 600+ yards.

Is that a carbon fiber handguard?

[littlejerry]

Is that a carbon fiber handguard?

Nope, ALG V1 rail.

[Clusterfrack]

How do you like the BCM 18" SS410 barrel? I'm thinking of picking one up.

I like it quite a bit. It's spectacularly accurate. Based on a sample of two, it outshoots the much more expensive Larue Mk12, and unlike the Larue, the BCM has a very standard 5.56 chamber.

[secondstoryguy]

This thread is relevant to some of things I've been playing with at work(LE Sniper). I currently run a bolt gun(AI) and have another 5.56 rifle with a 1-6 LPVO (daylight visible dot) for general use. We also have a bunch of 16-18" Larue OBRs which have full power NF scopes on them. A precision rifle or .308 gas gun fully equipped(light/IR laser/scope, bipod)are pigs (anywhere from 12-17lbs) compared to their 5.56 cousins. Doing CQB in the shoot house with even a "lighter" 16" gas gun can be done but its not fun and borderline impractical, especially if you don't have a suppressor(loud AF in close quarters).

This leaves the 5.56 variants. I'm starting to think that a SPR type rifle in .223/5.56 with a "real" scope (something with a minimum top end magnification of around 10-12x or preferably more) and an offset RMR/red dot is the most versatile answer for urban precision work. With modern ammunition at typical urban distances (100-200yds max) these 5.56 guns allow mobility, flexibility, ammunition compatibility(I can run my normal kit/ammo), and faster repeat shots than their .308 brethren. The offset RMR also makes shooting with a gas mask/NODs and snap shots a breeze.

I've tried to push the LPVOs into the precision work and found them lacking(I have even T&Ed the new Vortex 1-10x). The magnification and reticles are great for hitting larger more clearly defined targets but when its a head sized target in the shadows of a treeline at 100-150 they start fall short(especially the reticles which generally have to have enough bulk/size to support the daytime illumination) While I still think that a LPVO has a place it's my belief that 6x or even 10x is a bit light for PID of smaller targets, especially when trying to look into windows/structures or get a clear poa on a non-contrasting target. Another not really talked about issue is with a LPVO you lose a lot of eye-relief and head positioning flexibility which really matters in full kit, working with NODs and gas masks.

Overall I really think one needs to clearly define their intended use for the rifle and understand the limitations of what they have. There is no perfect "do all" rifle. As a sniper who plays assaulter sometimes I've come to the conclusion that I like a short suppressed 5.56 rifle with a red dot for patrol/assault work, a LPVO equipped rifle for more open terrain(but I generally just tote my red dot carbine), a .308/.338 bolt gun for hostage rescue/longer range stuff 300-400 yds+, and a "regular" scoped 5.56 AR with an offset RMR for higher mobility urban sniper work.

I just purchased a complete Sons of Liberty Gunworks (SOLGW is a great group of guys BTW) 13.7" a few weeks ago and installed a Geissele SSA-E. I will be mounting a Leupold MK5 3.6-18x44 with an offset RMR, a light, laser and a bipod in the coming months. With good Hornady or Federal bonded ammunition and heavier bullets this thing should do most stuff I want it to do as an LEO sniper and allow me to be much more mobile/versatile overall, I can run it easily during CQB, and I think it may be a generally better answer overall than the .308 semis/bolts even when considering intermediate barriers.

It's only money right?

[rd62]

I like it quite a bit. It's spectacularly accurate. Based on a sample of two, it outshoots the much more expensive Larue Mk12, and unlike the Larue, the BCM has a very standard 5.56 chamber.

Could I ask what buffer and spring you are running? I ordered my barrel today.

[NH Shooter]

I like it quite a bit. It's spectacularly accurate. Based on a sample of two, it outshoots the much more expensive Larue Mk12, and unlike the Larue, the BCM has a very standard 5.56 chamber.

I've got a BCM 16-inch SS 410 barrel arriving next week. Did you use any break-in method on yours?

[Clusterfrack]

I've got a BCM 16-inch SS 410 barrel arriving next week. Did you use any break-in method on yours?

Shoot 5-10. Clean with copper solvent. Carry on.

[NH Shooter]

Shoot 5-10. Clean with copper solvent. Carry on.

Sounds like what I do: a few cleanings with just solvent during the first 20 rounds and then have at it.

BTW, I like your build too!


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[NH Shooter]

This thread is relevant to some of things I've been playing with at work(LE Sniper). I currently run a bolt gun(AI) and have another 5.56 rifle with a 1-6 LPVO (daylight visible dot) for general use. We also have a bunch of 16-18" Larue OBRs which have full power NF scopes on them. A precision rifle or .308 gas gun fully equipped(light/IR laser/scope, bipod)are pigs (anywhere from 12-17lbs) compared to their 5.56 cousins. Doing CQB in the shoot house with even a "lighter" 16" gas gun can be done but its not fun and borderline impractical, especially if you don't have a suppressor(loud AF in close quarters).

This leaves the 5.56 variants. I'm starting to think that a SPR type rifle in .223/5.56 with a "real" scope (something with a minimum top end magnification of around 10-12x or preferably more) and an offset RMR/red dot is the most versatile answer for urban precision work. With modern ammunition at typical urban distances (100-200yds max) these 5.56 guns allow mobility, flexibility, ammunition compatibility(I can run my normal kit/ammo), and faster repeat shots than their .308 brethren. The offset RMR also makes shooting with a gas mask/NODs and snap shots a breeze.

I've tried to push the LPVOs into the precision work and found them lacking(I have even T&Ed the new Vortex 1-10x). The magnification and reticles are great for hitting larger more clearly defined targets but when its a head sized target in the shadows of a treeline at 100-150 they start fall short(especially the reticles which generally have to have enough bulk/size to support the daytime illumination) While I still think that a LPVO has a place it's my belief that 6x or even 10x is a bit light for PID of smaller targets, especially when trying to look into windows/structures or get a clear poa on a non-contrasting target. Another not really talked about issue is with a LPVO you lose a lot of eye-relief and head positioning flexibility which really matters in full kit, working with NODs and gas masks.

Overall I really think one needs to clearly define their intended use for the rifle and understand the limitations of what they have. There is no perfect "do all" rifle. As a sniper who plays assaulter sometimes I've come to the conclusion that I like a short suppressed 5.56 rifle with a red dot for patrol/assault work, a LPVO equipped rifle for more open terrain(but I generally just tote my red dot carbine), a .308/.338 bolt gun for hostage rescue/longer range stuff 300-400 yds+, and a "regular" scoped 5.56 AR with an offset RMR for higher mobility urban sniper work.

I just purchased a complete Sons of Liberty Gunworks (SOLGW is a great group of guys BTW) 13.7" a few weeks ago and installed a Geissele SSA-E. I will be mounting a Leupold MK5 3.6-18x44 with an offset RMR, a light, laser and a bipod in the coming months. With good Hornady or Federal bonded ammunition and heavier bullets this thing should do most stuff I want it to do as an LEO sniper and allow me to be much more mobile/versatile overall, I can run it easily during CQB, and I think it may be a generally better answer overall than the .308 semis/bolts even when considering intermediate barriers.

It's only money right?

An excellent, informative post - THANKS!

[sabre675]

https://i.imgur.com/9bSh0ud.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/W6PuGga.jpg

[Clusterfrack]

Could I ask what buffer and spring you are running? I ordered my barrel today.

Sorry, totally missed this question. I’m using a H buffer and standard spring.

[Cory]

You’re not poor. Poor is a mentality. It’s a way of thinking that few ever recover from.

You, are broke..

:D

These are just financial circumstances that I hope to overcome very soon... I didn't expect a Dave Chappelle quote in a SPR thread, but here's PF making it happen.

[Clusterfrack]

https://i.imgur.com/W6PuGga.jpg

Nice! You need some spike feet on that Atlas.

[Bergeron]

That's a lovely rifle. Can you comment on the weight, and the general experience of the MLR?

[pooty]

these are the best kind of gun cause its 'potentiates' the two most dangerous weapons of war that have no place on our streets (according to leftists): the fully semi-auto high capacity assault rifle & the high-power long-distance sniper rifle

[Up1911Fan]

Anyone make a MK12ish build using the proper 18" barrel with the AE Brake and Collar with a 15" handguard? Wondering if I could still use a AEM5 suppressor with the longer handguard...

[sabre675]

That's a lovely rifle. Can you comment on the weight, and the general experience of the MLR?

Thanks for the compliments. As to the weight of the MRP chassis, it is always going to be at a disadvantage compared to Standard ar15 platforms do to the barrel indexing collar and the chassis interface. This isn’t so much of a weight issue as it is to a weight distribution issue. However both my 762 LMTMWS platforms and my 556 MRP platform have all had barrel work done by Marvin Pitts of nefarious arms. Granted this is only lightened The rifles bye 6 to 8 ounces, but in the grand scheme of things change weight distribution and balance more favorably. But doing so came at a cost. For example the rifle pictured is a 13.8 inch stainless steel barrel that had been chopped and Ball milled. As pictured, with empty 20 round magazine, vortex 1 -10 optic, Scalarworks mount, atlas bipod and KAC rail segment, it comes in at 9.25 lbs. i’ve never weighed it without all that stuff, but that means empty it is coming in somewhere within the 6 pound Mark. The rifle is quite handy feeling. I had intended on shooting match Ammunition through it, but upon initial sight in, it patterned .88 moa with 62 grain 855 ball. I was shocked. With all the money spent on a 5R match grade 18” Barrel, I was concerned that by chopping it That I was ruining any accuracy potential. I have shot it out to 600 yards without issue. I haven’t shot anything else through it as of yet. But my MINI RECCE concept turned out better than I could have hoped. I like it as much as both my 7.62 MLR guns. It is much more practical for sure. As far as the barrel change system I have owned many LMTMRP type chassis and I have never utilized the system to switch calibers or change barrels. I simply like the quality of the product and the rigidity of the system and the LMT brand. BTW, the MLOK variant of both the 7.62 and 5.56 versions feel much better in hand due to a more favorable balance because of the slight weight savings.

[pastaslinger]

Is anyone using the Vortex Viper PST II 3-15x? I am thinking of grabbing one from eurooptic because they're down to $600. This would be to replace my SWFA 3-9x, my main qualm though is the substantial weight increase, but everything else seems great.

[Oregunman]

67312

I just put one of the new vortex 3-15’s on my spr ish build (18” noveske). So far I love it. Mine has the Ebr-7c reticle. I went back and forth between leupold/nightforce/vortex and ultimately didn’t care for any of the other reticle offerings for this rig. I also don’t have hardly any magnification on my other AR’s as they’re all sbr’s so this was a nice departure. I may throw some offset mbus sights on it and call it good.


Is anyone using the Vortex Viper PST II 3-15x? I am thinking of grabbing one from eurooptic because they're down to $600. This would be to replace my SWFA 3-9x, my main qualm though is the substantial weight increase, but everything else seems great.

[awp_101]

Bump because I was listening to a podcast yesterday where MK12s were brought up as part of a general long-ish range/precision shooting discussion and it reminded me I never got busy on my SPR-like project.

[M2CattleCo]

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-cJhHHrv/0/X2/i-cJhHHrv-X2.jpg

[johnson]

LMT Defender 2000 lower

Rainier Arms UltraMatch Billet Upper
Centurion Arms 16.1" RECCE barrel
Centurion Arms 14" CMR
LMT BCG
AXTS Raptor CH
NF UniMount 1.375"
Bushnell LRHS 3-12x, G2H reticle
Harris S-BRM with KMW POD-LOC
Smith Vortex FH
TROS 1/2-28 to 5/8-24 thread adapter
TBAC 30P-1

https://i.imgur.com/70fC9p2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1PVQaK1.jpg

I'm limited to 100 yards so I've mainly shot cheaper ammo instead of MK 262 clones and groups just under an inch with Fiocchi 50gr VMAX at that distance. This was an old zero target with Hornady Steel Match at 50 yards.

https://i.imgur.com/JZmnool.jpg

[pastaslinger]

67312

I just put one of the new vortex 3-15’s on my spr ish build (18” noveske). So far I love it. Mine has the Ebr-7c reticle. I went back and forth between leupold/nightforce/vortex and ultimately didn’t care for any of the other reticle offerings for this rig. I also don’t have hardly any magnification on my other AR’s as they’re all sbr’s so this was a nice departure. I may throw some offset mbus sights on it and call it good.

I ended up getting one of those vortex pst Ii 3-15x scopes as well. It was a smoking deal so I had a hard time passing it up at around $600 when they clearanced the EBR 2D reticle. The optical performance is more than I was expecting but the eyebox is relatively tight.

[StraitR]

Ballistic Advantage is running a 15% off sale on all barrels. Decided it was finally time for me to order an SPR barrel and start a build.

[Trukinjp13]

LMT Defender 2000 lower

Rainier Arms UltraMatch Billet Upper
Centurion Arms 16.1" RECCE barrel
Centurion Arms 14" CMR
LMT BCG
AXTS Raptor CH
NF UniMount 1.375"
Bushnell LRHS 3-12x, G2H reticle
Harris S-BRM with KMW POD-LOC
Smith Vortex FH
TROS 1/2-28 to 5/8-24 thread adapter
TBAC 30P-1

https://i.imgur.com/70fC9p2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1PVQaK1.jpg

I'm limited to 100 yards so I've mainly shot cheaper ammo instead of MK 262 clones and groups just under an inch with Fiocchi 50gr VMAX at that distance. This was an old zero target with Hornady Steel Match at 50 yards.

https://i.imgur.com/JZmnool.jpg

I am in the process of collecting for a recce/dmr type build. Have the 16” recce from centurion and the lower. Stuck on a rail. Most likely I’ll be going mlok. But want one that is stout enough to not shift zero with bipod or mounted accessories on end of rail.

How do you like the cmr? I have only used the smaller rails from them and they have been excellent.


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[ASH556]

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[awp_101]

FrankenGun to try 224 Valkyrie. Anderson lower with Magpul PRS stock and Geisselle G2S trigger. BCM upper with Bison Armory 20 inch 224 Valkyrie upper in an ALG 15 inch freefloat tube. Vortex Viper PST Gen 1 6-24x50 MRAD scope. AAC 51T flashhider and suppressor mount. Harris 6-9 bipod.

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2 years later, in general how do you like the Valkyrie?

[ranger]

2 years later, in general how do you like the Valkyrie?

Wow, blast from the past. My 224 Valkyrie upper works fine - its been updated though. All my PST Gen 1s have been upgraded - it now has a Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25 MRAD. Handguard updated to the Seekins 15 inch with the flat side for barricades and I moved to the Area 419 brake and suppressor mount system. However, the 224V upper sits in back of the safe as I am focused on PRS last few years and spend all my time with bolt rifles. Bigger issue is "why 224V" - I have 224V, 6.5 Grendel, and 6mm ARC uppers. Hindsight 20-20 I would not have built the 224V but would just do the 6mm ARC today.

[awp_101]

Thanks! I’m kicking around ideas for an upper and bolt action set in “a caliber that’s not 5.56 and under $1/rd shipped”. The Grendel and Valkyrie meet that so far but I’m still very much in the looking and thinking stage right now. No hunting or other serious precision use, just fun at the range for me and maybe the grandkids.

[Odin Bravo One]

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[Trukinjp13]

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[Trukinjp13]

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Upgraded to the Credo 3-9 and added DF Surefire. Sub moa blaster. The East India Upper is pretty impressive from SOLGW.


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[Nephrology]

Here are mine. #1 is my "heavy RECCE" , #2 is my "light RECCE".

1. DSG 16" .223 Wylde match grade upper (Ballistic Advantage barrel), Vortex Viper PST 2 1-6x in a Warn XSKEL mount, LaRue MBT2s trigger. Harris SBRM-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Harris-Engineering-S-BRM-Hinged-6-9-Inch/dp/B000JJGXAI/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20HJLLKG03MBZ&dchild=1&keywords=harris+sbrm&qid=1586797462&sprefix=Harris+sbrm%2Caps%2C143&sr=8-1) with Podloc. Furniture is VLTOR EMOD and LaRue APEG PG.

https://i.imgur.com/0DFNEcY.jpg

2. Aero 16" .223 Wylde upper (Ballistic Advantage barrel) , Vortex Viper PST 1-4x in an ADM QD mount, ALG ACT trigger, arisaka handstop (https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/grip-parts/foregrips/m-lok-finger-stop-aluminum-black-sku100016552-74641-158738.aspx). Furniture is Mapgul ACS-L (https://www.primaryarms.com/magpul-acs-l-carbine-stock-mil-spec-black-mag378-blk) and K2 PG.

https://i.imgur.com/SkP3EFq.jpg

I also have a 3rd heavy barreled AR with a 6-24 Vortex Viper on it, but not sure if that qualified for this thread as it is not really "tactical/practical"

Same guns, two years later... my taste in optics and accessories has evolved.

notably, I sold the assembled 16" Aero upper from photo #2. it was reliable and shot very well but wanted something nicer. Was replaced with the 16" sionics seen here that I had cut to 14.5" and pinned/welded for a YHM Phantom. Just got the cerakoted Turbo K in yesterday. Optic was upgraded to a Razor 1-6.

Top rifle has a Trijicon Credo 2-10x and an offset Holosun 507k. Same upper as photo #1. Can is a YHM Turbo. Overall reasonably light, the VFG is a must for use offhand.

https://i.imgur.com/u1qEFzP.jpg

I liked the recce concept so much that I eventually wound up with a little one:

https://i.imgur.com/8fQRpKi.jpg

Upper is a midwest industries Nightfighter with a 11.5" Criterion CORE barrel. Very satisfied with it, but between the 46M and the handguard it is very heavy. However the combo is very quiet and very accurate with minimal blowback... I've opted to just keep eating my Wheaties.

Also finally put together a true SPR... purchased an assembled White Oak Armament 16" SPR upper. Had them install a SA adjustable GB for a small extra fee. Plays very nicely with the Resonator I have mounted to it. Optic is a Vortex Viper PST2 3-15. Heavy, but both the upper and the glass are screaming values for their price point.

https://i.imgur.com/JonCMvX.jpg

Magnified optics are fun, especially out here where I have the opportunity to shoot 5.56 to its max effective range and then some when I am out on the range.

I have a couple with reflex optics, but I can't say I enjoy shooting them as much as I do these. The mountain west is a natural place for the Recce in particular; as a native New Englander, I've come to appreciate the flexibility of a magnified optics in the big outdoors.

https://i.imgur.com/oFf4jxO.jpg

[SecondsCount]

A work in progress

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[Trukinjp13]

A work in progress

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I like it.


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[babypanther]

Same guns, two years later... my taste in optics and accessories has evolved.

notably, I sold the assembled 16" Aero upper from photo #2. it was reliable and shot very well but wanted something nicer. Was replaced with the 16" sionics seen here that I had cut to 14.5" and pinned/welded for a YHM Phantom. Just got the cerakoted Turbo K in yesterday. Optic was upgraded to a Razor 1-6.

Top rifle has a Trijicon Credo 2-10x and an offset Holosun 507k. Same upper as photo #1. Can is a YHM Turbo. Overall reasonably light, the VFG is a must for use offhand.

https://i.imgur.com/u1qEFzP.jpg

I liked the recce concept so much that I eventually wound up with a little one:

https://i.imgur.com/8fQRpKi.jpg

Upper is a midwest industries Nightfighter with a 11.5" Criterion CORE barrel. Very satisfied with it, but between the 46M and the handguard it is very heavy. However the combo is very quiet and very accurate with minimal blowback... I've opted to just keep eating my Wheaties.

Also finally put together a true SPR... purchased an assembled White Oak Armament 16" SPR upper. Had them install a SA adjustable GB for a small extra fee. Plays very nicely with the Resonator I have mounted to it. Optic is a Vortex Viper PST2 3-15. Heavy, but both the upper and the glass are screaming values for their price point.

https://i.imgur.com/JonCMvX.jpg

Magnified optics are fun, especially out here where I have the opportunity to shoot 5.56 to its max effective range and then some when I am out on the range.

I have a couple with reflex optics, but I can't say I enjoy shooting them as much as I do these. The mountain west is a natural place for the Recce in particular; as a native New Englander, I've come to appreciate the flexibility of a magnified optics in the big outdoors.

https://i.imgur.com/oFf4jxO.jpg

I’m running a razor 1-6 and a 6 year old Sons East India 11.5 upper. I’ve been eyeing the Criterion stuff for a long time. How are you liking the 11.5?


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[Wake27]

I’m running a razor 1-6 and a 6 year old Sons East India 11.5 upper. I’ve been eyeing the Criterion stuff for a long time. How are you liking the 11.5?


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Assuming I didn’t get scammed, I should have a like new upper with their 12.5 barrel arriving towards the end of next week. I don’t know when I’ll be able to shoot it but if it performs how I expect based on other reviews, I’ll probably throw my Razor 1-10 on it for the Green Ops LPVO course in VA in early SEP. Will definitely post thoughts once I get to play around with it.


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[Nephrology]

I’m running a razor 1-6 and a 6 year old Sons East India 11.5 upper. I’ve been eyeing the Criterion stuff for a long time. How are you liking the 11.5?


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Really like it. Only thing bugging me was it was kind of front heavy with the hybrid 46M. Just rearranged suppressors on my guns to replace with the resonator R2 that was living on my SPR. Adds maybe 1/2” but shaves about 4 oz.

It also meant I could assemble the 46M in its full size configuration with the 223 end cap I have sitting around. My fixed gas 11.5 wouldn’t tolerate that level of back pressure but should be no problem with the adjustable gas on my SPR. Plus given how gigantic this thing is, should be extremely quiet with the new smaller end cap too.

https://i.imgur.com/ILHAeeD_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Nephrology]

"Adding" another SPR type rifle to my stable. Now that I have a few rifle suppressors, my 20" RRA Predator Pursuit was languishing in the safe. Has a really nice 5-25 PST 2 on it that I haven't even zeroed.

To fix this problem, sent the gun off to RetroArmsWorks. Having it cut down to 18", re-crowned, threaded, and a spare YHM QD brake installed. Also having him open up the gas port, replace the GB with an adjustable Superlative Arms unit, and replace the old tubular handguard with a Geissele Mk8 15" blem I found on Midway for $100 off.

I also found a Magpul Gen 3 PRS stock on the arfcom classifieds for $200. Going to try that out. If I hate it, I figure I can flip it for what I paid for it. If I don't like it, may consider replacing the buffer tube with an a5 style tube as I think I have a spare buffer sitting around already.

Excited to get this thing back, hopefully no issues in going with the AGB. Didn't really seem necessary on an 18" rifle build but I wanted the flexibility to dial in the gas with a can.

[Nephrology]

Well, it's here... and I love it. Not going to have time to take to range for a while but will hopefully will get the chance week of my birthday

Also, hope it surprises no one to learn this thing is fucking heavy. Better keep eating my Wheaties

https://i.imgur.com/gaN0RKF.jpg

[Clusterfrack]

Well, it's here... and I love it. Not going to have time to take to range for a while but will hopefully will get the chance week of my birthday

Also, hope it surprises no one to learn this thing is fucking heavy. Better keep eating my Wheaties


You might be able to shave some weight with a lighter stock.
https://seekinsprecision.com/parts-accessories/pro-composites.html

[Nephrology]

You might be able to shave some weight with a lighter stock.
https://seekinsprecision.com/parts-accessories/pro-composites.html

I thought about a lighter stock but I already have 2x 16" dmr type rifles that are quite accurate and much more portable, on this guy the point is to go all in. besides the suppressor might weight more than the PRS stock (really). I sort of wish I had left it at 20"

[03RN]

Well, it's here... and I love it. Not going to have time to take to range for a while but will hopefully will get the chance week of my birthday

Also, hope it surprises no one to learn this thing is fucking heavy. Better keep eating my Wheaties

https://i.imgur.com/gaN0RKF.jpg

Lol, just added 10oz with a new scope
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[LittleLebowski]

Lol, just added 10oz with a new scope
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Oh no, hope you start lifting :D

[03RN]

Oh no, hope you start lifting :D

;)
Just got a little heavier
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