Model 10 deal?

[Grey]

Possibly of interest to this forum?

Used smith model 10 38 special, blued finish, $200.

https://dahlonegaarmory.com/product/used-sw-m10-5-4-taper-.38spl-blue-fs-good-condition

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[fatdog]

That is a steal.

[jandbj]

Ultimate sock drawer gun! Someone should snap that up quick.

[mtnbkr]

Very good deal assuming it's mechanically sound.

Chris

[Jim Watson]

If that is a picture of the actual gun for sale, it is a Deal.

Don't know about their catalog program, though. Why do you need to put four decimal places on the integral digit capacity?

[Grey]

No idea of the seller or anything, just saw the deal posted.

They seem to have a lot, they let me add 30 to my cart.

[SeriousStudent]

Thanks for the heads up, Grey. I'll let everyone know what it looks like when it arrives.

I'm always looking for a decent inexpensive loaner. I usually have a package set up for them - Pelican box, three speedloaders, six dummy rounds, security cable and lock, fifty rounds of 38 Special standard velocity Gold Dots, with a simple leather oWB holster. We had a bad problem here a few years back with home invasions targeting Indian families. So I set up a pair of those, and loaned them to some neighbors along with an hour of free instruction - hence the snap caps.

Oh, and my socialist brother in law called me on Wednesday night. We had a fascinating conversation - just fascinating! :cool:

[Lex Luthier]

Thanks for the heads up, Grey. I'll let everyone know what it looks like when it arrives.

I'm always looking for a decent inexpensive loaner. I usually have a package set up for them - Pelican box, three speedloaders, six dummy rounds, security cable and lock, fifty rounds of 38 Special standard velocity Gold Dots, with a simple leather oWB holster. We had a bad problem here a few years back with home invasions targeting Indian families. So I set up a pair of those, and loaned them to some neighbors along with an hour of free instruction - hence the snap caps.

Oh, and my socialist brother in law called me on Wednesday night. We had a fascinating conversation - just fascinating! :cool:

I look forward to hearing about condition on these.
SS, you're a good neighbor, and I would be very proud to count you among mine.

[mtnbkr]

they let me add 30 to my cart.

You have a problem. First 9mm cases and now this. ;)

Chris

[Grey]

You have a problem. First 9mm cases and now this. ;)

ChrisI probably should buy one because PF said I needed a model 10.

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[mtnbkr]

I probably should buy one because PF said I needed a model 10.

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mos def.

Also, you're getting into reloading and 38 special is super easy to reload...

Chris

[Poconnor]

I should buy several for family members. A recent experiment with my with trying several of my revolvers she greatly preferred the lighter guns. I think this model would wadcutters would be the ticket.

[spinmove_]

I’m having a really hard time not scooping one of these. I’m trying to save up for a new safe because I need a bigger and more proper safe.

[Polecat]

These are so well balanced, price is right. Very serviceable. Would love to see pencil barrel cut to 2.5” just for grins, love the look of the tapered ones.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

I’m seriously considering picking one of these up... calling my preferred shop on Monday just to make sure that they’re open. Is it safe to assume that these aren’t +p rated?

Since I don’t have any .38 stocked (and pickings are slim out there), would 148gr wadcutters be an acceptable defensive load?

[Duelist]

I’m seriously considering picking one of these up... calling my preferred shop on Monday just to make sure that they’re open. Is it safe to assume that these aren’t +p rated?

Since I don’t have any .38 stocked (and pickings are slim out there), would 148gr wadcutters be an acceptable defensive load?

A model 10-anything is +P rated.

Wadcutters will be a hoot to shoot through it, and will certainly work in a defensive role.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

A model 10-anything is +P rated.

Wadcutters will be a hoot to shoot through it, and will certainly work in a defensive role.

Thanks! I’ve been looking for an excuse to buy an inexpensive k-frame as a knockabout woods gun. This might have pushed me over the edge.

[Joe45]

How are these still in stock? What is wrong with you guys? They were supposed to be gone by now so I wouldn't buy one!

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[jandbj]

I ordered one too.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

Just placed my order.

[03RN]

Sucks i dont have the $200:(

[Colt191145lover]

You guys suck, I ordered one ;)

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

Any thoughts on AIWB/IWB holsters for these?

I see JMCK has a 4" K offering... any other recommendations? My plan was to carry in an HPG Kit Bag while hiking/camping, but I'm starting to like the idea of having other options.

[deputyG23]

Trying to resist...I already have enough fixed sight .38/.357 revolvers to outfit a small town PD...
It would be interesting to send the one pictured in the ad to the mothership for a factory reblue...

[Stephanie B]

Any thoughts on AIWB/IWB holsters for these?

I see JMCK has a 4" K offering... any other recommendations? My plan was to carry in an HPG Kit Bag while hiking/camping, but I'm starting to like the idea of having other options.

I bought a JMCK IWB for my 3" M65; I've carried a 4" M10 in it with no issues.

[03RN]

Any thoughts on AIWB/IWB holsters for these?

I see JMCK has a 4" K offering... any other recommendations? My plan was to carry in an HPG Kit Bag while hiking/camping, but I'm starting to like the idea of having other options.

I carried a 4" m19 in their aiwb for a year before i got a 2.75" m66 and cut an inch off the holster.

Absolutely the most comfortable aiwb ive ever used
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[deputyG23]

Any thoughts on AIWB/IWB holsters for these?

I see JMCK has a 4" K offering... any other recommendations? My plan was to carry in an HPG Kit Bag while hiking/camping, but I'm starting to like the idea of having other options.

I have used a Galco Summer Comfort 4” IWB holster for the GP 100 for all my 3”-4” K Smiths and GP 4” .38 for several years now and have been pleased.
It comes out of the holster drawer when the blocky Glock slides aggravate my right hip or when I travel to MD to visit my son and want to carry a revolver that both my wife and I can both use in an emergency.

[Bobert1035]

Very tempting, but fortunately (unfortunately?) I already have that exact model. And it is a fantastic shooter!

[Mirolynmonbro]

Has anyone received a shipping notification?

[Colt191145lover]

Has anyone received a shipping notification?

I have not.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

Has anyone received a shipping notification?

Nope.

My assumption is that these are drop shipping from a distributor (several other websites list the same UPC for sale - at higher prices). So, I'm not really holding my breath...

[k_dub]

Still appears to be in stock. I ordered mine last night. My 642 and 43c needed a big brother.

[jandbj]

Has anyone received a shipping notification?

Just got my shipping information tonight.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

Just got my shipping information tonight.

Just received mine as well.

[Grey]

Glad you guys are getting shipping, I would of felt like shit if I steered you guys to a dud...

[Colt191145lover]

I got a shipping notification today as well.

[Gray Ghost]

Just ordered. $233 shipped. My excuse was that I have a nice Kramer holster that will fit it.

[Gray Ghost]

Has anyone communicated with this seller? Any idea why he is so slow to ship? Has anyone received a revolver yet?

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

Has anyone communicated with this seller? Any idea why he is so slow to ship? Has anyone received a revolver yet?

My order was placed on 03/30, shipped 04/13, arrived 04/15. According to the paperwork, it drop shipped from Zanders.

I went own to the shop a few minutes ago to fill out a 4473. Thanks to Oregon's state run BGC system, I'm the 900th or so person in line... so I likely won't take delivery for a couple of days.

The gun seemed to be in fine shape mechanically, with lots of holster wear.

[Gray Ghost]

My order was placed on 03/30, shipped 04/13, arrived 04/15. According to the paperwork, it drop shipped from Zanders.

I went own to the shop a few minutes ago to fill out a 4473. Thanks to Oregon's state run BGC system, I'm the 900th or so person in line... so I likely won't take delivery for a couple of days.

The gun seemed to be in fine shape mechanically, with lots of holster wear.

Excellent. Did you by any chance take a picture? I have never heard of Zanders. Are they a distributor? I have to wonder if these were agency guns that had been sitting in an armory for a while.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

Excellent. Did you by any chance take a picture? I have never heard of Zanders. Are they a distributor? I have to wonder if these were agency guns that had been sitting in an armory for a while.

Unfortunately I didn't remember to snap a picture. There was no pitting, but there was a lot of blue missing from holster wear, and there is a bit of brown patina in those areas. The stocks were pretty beat up, with a lot more wear on the right side panel. It appeared to be import marked, but I didn't look closely enough to tell who imported it. Additionally, there was an acronym and number stamped on the underside of the frame just forward of the trigger guard. I'm guessing that is some sort of issuing agency identifier.

I'll take some photos once my background check clears and I get it home.

Zanders is a distributor, which is why I'm guessing shipping was a bit slow. They're likely quite busy with everything going on right now.

[andre3k]

Has anyone communicated with this seller? Any idea why he is so slow to ship? Has anyone received a revolver yet?

Anything coming from a distributor is going to be slow right now. I have open orders from RSR that were placed on 3/20 that haven't shipped yet. Zanders took about 2 weeks to ship my last order.

[Colt191145lover]

Mine is at my gun shop, I will be picking it up tomorrow.

[jandbj]

My guy has mine. I’ll pick it up on Sunday.

[SCCY Marshal]

Just ordered one. Already have a Barami Hip-Grip and Pachmayr grip adapter on the way to play with. If they don't stay on the gun, there is a Pachmayr Presentation kicking around. Now to troll for a decent leather OWB holster while I wait.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

Pics are of the condition it was in as delivered. For the money, I’m fairly happy with it. My apologies in advanced if this is formatted wonky, posting from my phone.

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[Colt191145lover]

Here is mine.

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[03RN]

Would be a good birthday present for my son. He got a surplused m64 for his 1st bday last year.

[rd62]

Here is mine.

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52351

Nice photos!

What vintage are these?

[Colt191145lover]

Mine appears to be from the early 70s from the SN#

[Colt191145lover]

Mine seems to shoot very well, cant say the same for the guy shooting it.
7 yards DA only. top target was with a buddies handloads, the bottom was Federal Gold Medal Match.
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[jandbj]

Here is mine.

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Mine is pretty much identical. Picked it up, tightened every screw and added a T grip fron the parts box, went to the range with a box of Precision delta 148 gr wadcutters and it hits to the sights at 15 yards for me. Couldn’t miss on the plate racks. I’m very happy with the purchase!

[Gray Ghost]

Is there any indication from the markings where these came from?

[Wayne Dobbs]

Just ordered one, even though I have a ton of 4" K-frame .38 Specials! Serious Student and I will sally forth with them to see how they are. We'll even let Darryl come and watch.

[dogcaller]

I had one in the cart on Friday afternoon but had to wait to confirm that my shop was open for transfer. And now--out of stock. Dang it!

[03RN]

I had one in the cart on Friday afternoon but had to wait to confirm that my shop was open for transfer. And now--out of stock. Dang it!

Sorry, good for me though. Im to easily tempted. Cant believe i held off.

[Colt191145lover]

Is there any indication from the markings where these came from?

From what I have been able to find they are Malaysian police trade ins. Imported back into the states by Century Arms International

[03RN]

From what I have been able to find they are Malaysian police trade ins. Imported back into the states by Century Arms International

That would have been cool. I was there as a trainer a long time ago. I wish i got some of the $120 m500s too

[Stephanie B]

Sorry, good for me though. Im to easily tempted. Cant believe i held off.

Same here. I bit on the 10-6 deal a few months back, so I’m good.

[SeriousStudent]

Just ordered one, even though I have a ton of 4" K-frame .38 Specials! Serious Student and I will sally forth with them to see how they are. We'll even let Darryl come and watch.

You have a deal, even though I decided to pass on this and spent the money on a Dillon XL750 this weekend.

But I have a veritable plethora of revolvers to bring. A couple you have not seen yet.

[andre3k]

Zanders still has some in stock, but they are graded as "fair" and are under a different SKU.

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[SCCY Marshal]

Has anyone snapped a photo of the agency markings or asked the distributor about the provenance? If we could positively confirm these as Malaysian surplus, it'd tickle me pink and make a friend mighty jealous.

[Wayne Dobbs]

Same here. I bit on the 10-6 deal a few months back, so I’m good.

I did, too, Stephanie. I should probably join KFAA...K-frame Addicts Anonymous. ;)

[Stephanie B]

I did, too, Stephanie. I should probably join KFAA...K-frame Addicts Anonymous. ;)

I'm trying. It's too easy to fall into "K-Frame Accumulator" mode. It wasn't too terribly long ago that I only had one. Then I got a nice Aussie 10-11 from Bud's. Then a 10-5. Then a 10-no dash and I was off to the races.

[Colt191145lover]

Has anyone snapped a photo of the agency markings or asked the distributor about the provenance? If we could positively confirm these as Malaysian surplus, it'd tickle me pink and make a friend mighty jealous.

Here ya go

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[SCCY Marshal]

Here ya go

Nice! Now to hope Singapore surpluses it Taurus 85 duty revolvers to the U.S. market as they transition to polymer-framed autos in the police service. Then I could keep my neighborgood free of the chewing gum scourge. Bonus if I could also score one of the retention holsters and lanyards. A Malaysian/Singaporean duty revolver set scaled to the country sizes would be awesome.

[03RN]

Zanders still has some in stock, but they are graded as "fair" and are under a different SKU.

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Link?

[andre3k]

Link?You have to have a Zanders account to see it.

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[dogcaller]

Here’s what I found. Not nearly as good a deal. https://shop2.gzanders.com/firearms/used-firearms.html (http://https://shop2.gzanders.com/firearms/used-firearms.html)

[Bobert1035]

Looks like these are good honest wheelies, great deal!

[SCCY Marshal]

Just had to order another Hi-Grip for my pending model 10. Showed the Barami to a buddy with a model 15 to try out and got cash back instead the stocks.

[k_dub]

Picked up mine today. Here’s a picture with its siblings:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/34463b56365c457040fc28ea69a40bd7.jpg

It looks like it is in pretty good shape. However,the cylinder seems to be a bit stiff.

I’m still newish to revolvers so I have a few questions:

- What would be a few basic steps I should take to inspect this revolver or any used revolver?

- Aside from this forum of course, what resources have you found (Books, articles, etc.) have you found helpful?

- Any recommendations for helping the cylinder move more freely?

Thanks to Wayne Dobbs and Dagga Boy for introducing/enabling me into the revolver world.

[Wayne Dobbs]

Picked up mine today. Here’s a picture with its siblings:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/34463b56365c457040fc28ea69a40bd7.jpg

It looks like it is in pretty good shape. However,the cylinder seems to be a bit stiff.

I’m still newish to revolvers so I have a few questions:

- What would be a few basic steps I should take to inspect this revolver or any used revolver?

- Aside from this forum of course, what resources have you found (Books, articles, etc.) have you found helpful?

- Any recommendations for helping the cylinder move more freely?

Thanks to Wayne Dobbs and Dagga Boy for introducing/enabling me into the revolver world.

Still haven't gotten mine but what I've seen of these look very good. For a great inspection routine, look at this:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?353160-Revolver-Inspection-The-Right-Way-aka-Wheelgun-101

The guy writing this is a retired industry guy on the manufacturing and QC side of things. He's the best I've seen for technical information on revolvers and all handgun ammo/reloading.

PM/call/email me on that slow cylinder and I'll tell you what it usually is and how to fix it.

[Bobert1035]

Just had to order another Hi-Grip for my pending model 10. Showed the Barami to a buddy with a model 15 to try out and got cash back instead the stocks.

I've never heard of either, what are Hi Grips? Or did you mean the hip grips with the built in belt clip?

[SCCY Marshal]

I've never heard of either, what are Hi Grips? Or did you mean the hip grips with the built in belt clip?

Typo, Hip-Grips:

https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/handgunning-the-hip-grip/248015

I plan to bob the hammer, mount a Hip-Grip over an old Pahmayr grip adapter, pick up a leather thumb-break OWB, and have an old-fashioned setup that can double as a possible loaner.

[03RN]

Typo, Hip-Grips:

https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/handgunning-the-hip-grip/248015

I plan to bob the hammer, mount a Hip-Grip over an old Pahmayr grip adapter, pick up a leather thumb-break OWB, and have an old-fashioned setup that can double as a possible loaner.

Kinda the direction i went with a m64 i have
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[SCCY Marshal]

I hate every last one of you. Had to go get a copy of my guy's FFL to scan and send the seller. While there, I noticed a Ruger LCP II Lite Rack in 22 Long Rifle which was one of the first two he got in. One is now on layaway. He also has a 4" pre-lock S&W model 586 with square butt and 4" barrel for under seven bills. So very close to calling, having him set it aside for me as well, and finish paying it off with Trump Bucks whenevrr they roll in. Good deal on an old K-frame up until I have to set my impulsive foot in a fun dealer and then the hidden costs pop up.

Someone remind me my wife will ask why I went to get the ball rolling on one gun and wound up with three. Because the two for sure right now is bad enough.

[rd62]

Kinda the direction i went with a m64 i have
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Yep. My i had the hammer bobbed on my model 13 and am awaiting a T-grip now.

[Gray Ghost]

Just got a shipping notice.

[claymore504]

Wish i would have got one of these!

[Baldanders]

Yep. My i had the hammer bobbed on my model 13 and am awaiting a T-grip now.

I don't know why I like the factory wood grip + T-grip adapter look so much, but I do. Feels great, too. A friend has an 80s k-frame .38 snubby set up that way, handed down from his police armorer grandpa.

[Dave T]

My finger spread is 9-1/4", which I'm told makes my hand pretty big. Still, I love the feel of S&W Magna stocks and a grip adapter. There is a feeling of control I don't get out of larger grips or stocks.

Dave

[Wayne Dobbs]

Picked up mine today. Here’s a picture with its siblings:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/34463b56365c457040fc28ea69a40bd7.jpg

It looks like it is in pretty good shape. However,the cylinder seems to be a bit stiff.

I’m still newish to revolvers so I have a few questions:

- What would be a few basic steps I should take to inspect this revolver or any used revolver?

- Aside from this forum of course, what resources have you found (Books, articles, etc.) have you found helpful?

- Any recommendations for helping the cylinder move more freely?

Thanks to Wayne Dobbs and Dagga Boy for introducing/enabling me into the revolver world.

k_dub and I met at Dallas Pistol Club today to inspect and clean his 10-5 bought on this deal. It was predictably nasty inside and the cylinder/crane assembly needed a full strip and detail cleaning. The gun was worn from a cosmetic angle, but the mechanics were perfect in all respects. I doubt the revolver had seen 1000 rounds. We got it good and clean, then relubed and reassembled. It is very nice, with a smooth (but a tiny bit heavy) DA pull. I'm waiting on mine and if mine is as good, it will be the second best gun deal I've ever made. The best gun deal I've ever made was a NIB HK P7M8 for $150 but that's another story!

[k_dub]

k_dub and I met at Dallas Pistol Club today to inspect and clean his 10-5 bought on this deal. It was predictably nasty inside and the cylinder/crane assembly needed a full strip and detail cleaning. The gun was worn from a cosmetic angle, but the mechanics were perfect in all respects. I doubt the revolver had seen 1000 rounds. We got it good and clean, then relubed and reassembled. It is very nice, with a smooth (but a tiny bit heavy) DA pull. I'm waiting on mine and if mine is as good, it will be the second best gun deal I've ever made. The best gun deal I've ever made was a NIB HK P7M8 for $150 but that's another story!

I can’t say thank you enough for the cleaning and the time you spent with me explaining how this new to me 10-5 is put together.

It makes me understand and appreciate how much more craftsmanship was mixed in with engineering even 45 years ago compared to present day.

[SCCY Marshal]

Got a shipping notice. Will have my harried dealer sit on it for a week or two until I make full payment on my LCP II Lite Rack to have him only need run one background check on me. Will order a service weight Wolff hammer spring in the meantime. I like the reduced weight Wolff unit in my other model 10 and would like to try the other. Will already be in there checking, cleaning, lubing, bobbing the hammer, and swapping stocks so might as well pop in a new spring.

Have some Precision Delta 148 grain wadcutters, Geco 158 grain lead round nose, and Precision Delta 158 grain semi-wadcutters to try out. If I have some extra time on a dry day, will cast up some 105 grain SWC to powdercoat and size to load over Trail Boss and check POI with the lead saving fluff load. Also want to scrounge up some Buffalo Bore standard pressure LSWCHP in the next few weeks to check in the gun. Then to get serious about holster bids so it can stop sharing with the 4" model 10 my daughter claimed.

[Wayne Dobbs]

Got a shipping notice.

How long did you wait from order to shipping notice? I've been waiting since 04/20.

[lwt16]

The best gun deal I've ever made was a NIB HK P7M8 for $150 but that's another story!

Wait.....what????

[SCCY Marshal]

How long did you wait from order to shipping notice? I've been waiting since 04/20.

Placed my order on 4/18, they contacted my dealer on 4/23 but lack a fax machine, and I e-mailed a copy of the FFL on 4/26.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

How long did you wait from order to shipping notice? I've been waiting since 04/20.

Mine took 14 days from the order being placed to the label being created.

[k_dub]

How long did you wait from order to shipping notice? I've been waiting since 04/20.

For me it was two weeks from order to shipping 4/7-4/21.

[Wayne Dobbs]

I picked my 10-5 up today. It's blue worn, but in great mechanical shape. Timing is near perfect on all cylinders, bore is bright, crown very lightly dinged and the cylinder gap is .006 pass/.007 hold. I'll detail strip it this week, clean the bore and cylinder well and see what it does. If past experience of this era of K-frame .38s (early 70s) is reliable, it will be an excellent shooter.

[Grey]

Super cool to hear everyone's reports of mechanically sound guns! This thread needs more pics :)

[SCCY Marshal]

Got to fiddle with mine while filling out the 4473, today. Factory-level endshake, lockup as tight as my 10-11, looks great with the chewed grips and heavily worn finish, and the action is butter. Can't wait to feel how it gets even smoother after a cleaning and lube. My plan to drop in a reduced weight Wolff hammer spring is canceled and I'll use the service weight instead as this doesn't need to get lighter. Between cleaning, lube, and a hammer spring designed to slightly inprove triggers, this may well wind up the best revolver trigger in my house.

Also ordered a black basketweave Strong 4NYC thumb-break pancake holster (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?32731-Model-64-NY-1-DAO-Concealment-holste) to go with it. The rig was also made in Massachusetts (Gloucester) and the break is sized for bobbed hammers as I intend to do. It'll look great with the correct vintage 10-5 snapped in place with a Pachmayr grip adapter. Was going to go with a brown rig but the high spots on the tooled black holster wearing down to tan leather will match the look of the chewed stock better.

[SCCY Marshal]

Got it home, scrubbed it out, bobbed the hammer, installed a Wollf reduced powerd hammer spring, tossed on a Pachmay grip adapter, and can't wait to get it to the range.

https://i.imgur.com/AikDE7wl.jpg

Oh, also grabbed some obnoxious yellow nail polish.

Also grabbed a snub-nose 10 and gave it the same hammer spring, Barami Hip-Grip stocks, and anothe Pachmayr adapter. Hammer bob pending.

https://i.imgur.com/0GD3U6bl.jpg

[SCCY Marshal]

The Malay model 10 has a fine cylinder gap and needs brushed regularly. Couple thrown shots as a result of binding causing the trigger pull to go through the roof. Ran a Wizard Drill from a thumb-break holster snapped but hand on butt then the Marine CPP qualification as write but DAO at 25 yards and running the closer reload stage as a New York reload with an AIWB model 10 snub. Target is a trace of the scoring rings on a BT-5 with 10 ring noted and traced credit card aiming spot. 3x5 card headbox:

https://i.imgur.com/hATvxpel.jpg
Wizard.

https://i.imgur.com/4C0b2Nol.jpg
CPP with mix of 158gr FMJ-FP, 158gr LRN, 158gr SWC, and 148gr wadcutter.

I dig this little thing. Oh, light strikes now and then so I reinstalled the factory hammer spring and it's all good, now. Same in the model 10 snub but that is fussier about POA/POI with various anmo and seems to print most low where the Malaysian just parks stuff on the front sight.

[SCCY Marshal]

The Malay model 10 has a fine cylinder gap and needs brushed regularly...

This has proven to be far too tight despite constant brushing every cylinder two. Just kissed the forcing cone with a 400 grit diamond stone until the entire face was fresh silver. Then ran the 600 grit stone over a bit to smooth the surface and take a teeny bit more. It's still a very tight gap but I'll see if it's relieved enough before going any further since I can't add material back.

Also need to kiss the leading edge of the ejector star with some fine emery cloth as it's sharp enough to grab the occasional case before fully seated.

[SCCY Marshal]

I know it isn't true but the Malay makes me feel like I missed out on a nobler time:

https://i.imgur.com/ZAdT5nvl.jpg

[SCCY Marshal]

Anybody still playing with their impulse buys? Mine'll be on me all weekend:

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Ditched the usual pocket back-up LCR at home to avoid losing it in the river and just had the .22 LCP II in my man purse where it seems to live. Lightweight rod, small cigar, K-frame, and a day in a derelict old mill dam gorge with a kid made life just about perfect.

[tango-papa]

Anybody still playing with their impulse buys? Mine'll be on me all weekend:

75713

Ditched the usual pocket back-up LCR at home to avoid losing it in the river and just had the .22 LCP II in my man purse where it seems to live. Lightweight rod, small cigar, K-frame, and a day in a derelict old mill dam gorge with a kid made life just about perfect.

Pretty nice "kit" you got there.

[SCCY Marshal]

Pretty nice "kit" you got there.

I just need my new personal time Zippo to get scratched up, dinged, and wear through the chrome like the work one I inherited from my grandfather with a semi-matching engraving.

[SCCY Marshal]

Service Update:

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Still loving the Malay surplus.

[SCCY Marshal]

This is a bit of a crosspost from my Bodyguard 38 thread but used the Malaysian Model 10 as part of the introductory revolver smorgasboard with a friend. He kept several cylinders in the 10 ring of a BT-5 target out to seven yards having never before live fired a double-action. The feat was repeated with my 2" Model 10 and 22LR Ruger LCR. His favorites were the Model 10s over even a Target Masterpiece. My buddy will probably still razz me for being a revolver curmudgeon in the 21st century, though.

Another group pulled in as I was packing up my N-frames, K-frames, and snubs. One of them stopped my attempt to leave to ask for a tour of what he called "the cool pile of '70s cop guns." Him then finding out that I carry a Model 10 got me a fistbump.

[Moped]

Service Update:

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Still loving the Malay surplus.

Pencil Barrel?

[SCCY Marshal]

Pencil Barrel?

Yes. I'm one of the odd ducks who prefers their balance and lighter carry weight.

[jtcarm]

Yes. I'm one of the odd ducks who prefers their balance and lighter carry weight.

I think there’s a lot of us odd ducks in the revo hive.

PBs have a better sight picture to boot.

[Moped]

Yes. I'm one of the odd ducks who prefers their balance and lighter carry weight.

I picked up an almost cherry 10-7 this spring with the PB. I have to agree with the better balance and lighter carry weight being an advantage. I really like it! It shoots better than I do. Just need to find some wadcutters for it!!!

[SCCY Marshal]

I took the Malay wheelgun to a small 3 Gun match over the weekend. People rolled their eyes when they heard someone would be shooting a round gun; then rolled harder when my buddy chimed in that he was, as well. The R.O. sighed when I made ready for stage one and a fixed sight antique came out from an AIWB rig*. He sighed again as he saw the bob when we cleared the gun at the end of the stage and commented that, "well, there isn't a hammer to drop so just holster it." One interesting part of the stage was an unloaded table start. My friend later reported grumbling from the peanut gallery that loading a revolver before shooting and needing reloads to clear all the targets would take forever and slow us all down. That nonsense stopped immediately after the timer went off.

Having a mix of range marked loaders, I used HKS as the first load; Safariland Comp-III as the first reload; and Safariland Comp-II for any further reloads. The "slow" HKS had me shooting before some semi-auto guys got their guns loaded. Slamming a Comp-III home, my friend reported people being puzzled at how fast it went. Shooting next, his moonclip fed 9mm revolver completely silenced any comments about the wheelguns being a burden. A half-deaf older gentleman - who shot very well with a red dot equipped striker nine - pulled me aside before the next stage to say how much fun it was to watch a revolver and pump shotgun given a real run.

Another stage required all three guns and had a nicely simple handgun bit made to force shooters to wildly shift gears. A 10-yard Texas star behind a fullsize no-shoot and, at a very aggressive oblique with some visual distraction, a larger static steel about forty yards out that required one hit. I went 6/6 and the same older gent just gave me a solid nod and happy smirk the next time we made eye contact. Two 3" plates were placed ten yards out on another stage which gave some bother to a few guys and someone asked if I was concerned about shooting a "hamerless" DAO. I shot them first had four cartridges remaining to start to work on a plate rack and assorted knockovers further out. That stage had people snicker at the "one guy" who was shooting his carry gun from his carry holster (iron sighted Sig P365XL with manual safety** in a stongside IWB). "Two guys", I said.

"Who's the other?"

"Me."

"No, really, who's shooting their carry gun?"

"Me," I said again and got some very confused looks.

Having recently found a jar of old 158 grain lead flat nose conical bullets in the depths of a storage cabinet, I made some ugly reloads over 4.5 grains of Unique for the match to burn them up. The load averaged around 850fps out of the 4" gun and ran with no issues save two cartridges I had to poke fully into the chamber after releasing from a Comp-II (the plunger-driven Comp-III seated everything fully) as I never brushed the gun during the match and they had a little lead shaving at the case mouth. I noticed some shaving while loading and chose both not to adjust the belling die and not to wipe the cut lead off. The first because I didn't care and the second because I was lazy. Plunk testing them, it wasn't an issue in a clean gun but the fouling made the shaved cartridges a slight speedbump. Compared to the ammunition-related stoppages I saw in some red dot autopistol guys, it was nothing. To note how dirty the gun was before I had to poke the couple cartridges, it looked like I pulled it from a coal bin. My friend asked why I didn't brush it between stages and I replied that I spent time stoning the forcing cone to open the cylinder gap and intended for let the gun get dirty for the work to pay off. And added more quietly that I wanted avoid looking like my gun was finicky in a crowd of semi-automatics. The steel fell every time my loads hit, which it didn't with some of the 9mm other people ran.

One of the younger shooters (whose recoil control with a CETME was impressive) talked to us as we were packing to leave and asked if I was shooting a 1917 moonclip gun to reload so fast. I handed him the Model 10 with a quick note about police surplus and home bobbed hammer. He then asked to see my speedloaders as he did some dryfire. My gun was declared "cute" and the trigger deemed "surprisingly nice...for a revolver." He then laughed that I was serious about it being a carry gun when I dropped in some LSWCHP and reholstered.


* He later gave me a talking to for holstering an old gun in kydex. It being homemade earned me partial dispensation but the fatherly disappointment could still be felt.
** Which he used like a champ and dumped his safed pistol faster than some people could their safety-less striker guns and more smoothly than any of the 2011 shooters. Kid was a poster child for automaticity.

[Stephanie B]

^^^^^ This needs a "megalike" button.

[42Willys]

Agreed. Great post.

[ragnar_d]

Love it. That post reminds me of a "Tactical 2-gun" match that was held in an area I used to frequent. They were adamant that revolvers and leather holsters were unwelcome. Had I not stopped being in that area regularly, I was going to show up with a Garand and a Model 10 in a Galco Combat Master just to prove a point.

[SCCY Marshal]

Love it. That post reminds me of a "Tactical 2-gun" match that was held in an area I used to frequent. They were adamant that revolvers and leather holsters were unwelcome. Had I not stopped being in that area regularly, I was going to show up with a Garand and a Model 10 in a Galco Combat Master just to prove a point.

I'm about to digress but this is an old thread on the internet so will regret nothing.

My shotgun was a ghost ring 590 (non-A1) with 8 shot tube. For a rifle, I brought a Marlin Model 9 camp carbine and mostly ran S&W 6906 12-round mags (they have the ;pinkie hook to help yank them out of the magwell versus the flush OEM magazine). While loading mags for the first rifle stage, a shooter asked if I was switching to an autopistol. "Nah, these are for my pistol caliber carbine." While I was knocking over 50-60 yard poppers - which 55 grain .223 sometimes didn't unless hit mid-line up - using the fat iron bead front sight and 124 grain ball, someone asked my buddy if I was running a Ruger.

"No, that's a Marlin."

"Marlin? When did they start making PCCs?"

"Sometime in the '80s through the '90s."

"...There is really nothing new, huh?"

"Nope."

And some shooters were surprised to notice that I was running a pump-action; which they did partway through my first stage. A port load were I kept my support hand on the slide while opening the action and going back forward to close it gave me away. The R.O. complimented my port loads as we cleared my guns and asked if I'd ever tried going over the top to save some time. He nodded a reluctant agreement when I replied that I'd give up a bit of time to have a fumbled shell land back in my palm.

Running a fixed sight DAO K-frame from concealment with pocketed reloads, box stock pump-action reloading from a sidesaddle velcro card thing, and iron sighted PCC (from 50-100 yards) using low capacity magazines also stored in pockets placed me 20/30 shooters combined. I was the only pump shotgun in my squad, maybe one of two or three total; one of two iron sighted rifles in my squad; and one of two revolver shooters total. Only four iron sighted handguns were present in my squad with the rest being fullsize nines with dots and probably 1/3 comped, ported, or sporting a can. Most shotguns had dots, as well.

As a poor stage planning side note, I was the only guy (not counting the one time someone raced me) resetting the 60 yard poppers and sprinted out every time for 480+ yards of intermittent running with a drainage trench jump. The R.O. gave me a hard time for having done it right before my turn, which was in the middle of the stage rotation. Whoops.

[ragnar_d]

Absolutely love it. I've had some similar experiences, especially with running pump guns. No more than I shot 3-gun, it didn't seem prudent to drop a bunch of time and money into a VersaMax or Beretta that was gonna sit in the safe 360-362 days a year otherwise. Think I surprised one RO with how I ran it, but when you've been running the same shotgun for 15-16 years you get familiar with it.

Also, the Marlin Camp Carbine has a special place in my heart. It's a damn shame that the TDP couldn't be found to bring it back before Remlin went belly up.

[Malamute]

Here ya go

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Nice! Now to hope Singapore surpluses it Taurus 85 duty revolvers to the U.S. market as they transition to polymer-framed autos in the police service. Then I could keep my neighborgood free of the chewing gum scourge. Bonus if I could also score one of the retention holsters and lanyards. A Malaysian/Singaporean duty revolver set scaled to the country sizes would be awesome.


Do we know what these markings mean as to history of its use?

[SCCY Marshal]

Do we know what these markings mean as to history of its use?

I've poked around a bit here and there since you asked and have come up with nothing specific beyond "Malaysian police rack numbers", which is a bit of a bummer. And a buddy who lived in Malaysia for a bit doesn't have the vocabulary to help find any Malaysian sources.