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LittleLebowski
03-27-2020, 07:48 AM
https://www.businessinsider.in/policy/economy/news/a-massive-stockpile-of-39-million-n95-masks-is-being-sold-to-american-hospitals-around-27-million-more-than-the-us-governments-emergency-stockpile/articleshow/74838092.cms


The Service Employees International Union said it located 39 million N95 masks and will be selling them to healthcare facilities around the country to protect healthcare workers treating coronavirus patients.

TAZ
03-27-2020, 08:03 AM
Found them they did. Sure. Is that like they found a trunk full of votes in Chicago?

So they are selling them instead of donating them? Wow what caring individuals. Wonder if any AG’s can go at then for gouging or selling medical equipment without licenses?

Balisong
03-27-2020, 08:24 AM
$5 each times 39 million= quite a payday for these heroes.

5pins
03-27-2020, 08:30 AM
Nevermind.

Hambo
03-27-2020, 08:42 AM
It doesn't sound like SEIU got them for free, but "found a distributor" that had them.

https://twitter.com/noamscheiber/status/1243235329420808192/photo/1

My wife is happy that the hospital she works at just got a couple of donations of N95s: probably only enough for one per employee.

No outrage at SEIU on my part. I'm just glad entities are scrounging up PPE for people like my wife. I've potentially got a couple pairs of goggles coming for her, but we'll see how that works out. I'd pay $5/N95 any time just to get her and her co-workers some more.

wvincent
03-27-2020, 09:00 AM
What were N95's selling for before the Great Reset of 2020?

5pins
03-27-2020, 09:03 AM
Cuomo was complaining that they were paying $5 now for a mask that cost under a buck beforehand.

Borderland
03-27-2020, 09:33 AM
During the last recession we had a substantial RIF where I worked. Managers were looking at every possible angle to cut costs. During a staff meeting one manager told us they had "found" 600K that they didn't need. So my question would be if you don't need it why did you have it to begin with. Maybe it was just a bad choice of words but it had a few people trying to understand the agency funding.

GJM
03-27-2020, 10:26 AM
$5 a mask, big mark up for the union.

Borderland
03-27-2020, 10:29 AM
The Army just "found" 80,000 1911 pistols that had been in storage for 55 years. Funny how things just pop up from time to time.

JohnO
03-27-2020, 10:32 AM
$5 each times 39 million= quite a payday for these heroes.

Appears painfully obvious that no one in that union will need or require a pay raise from now to eternity. Perhaps contract renegotiations for reduced wages!

Redhat
03-27-2020, 10:57 AM
https://www.businessinsider.in/policy/economy/news/a-massive-stockpile-of-39-million-n95-masks-is-being-sold-to-american-hospitals-around-27-million-more-than-the-us-governments-emergency-stockpile/articleshow/74838092.cms

Amazing that they found them shortly after the US Attorney General announced they would be going after hoarders / price gougers.

blues
03-27-2020, 11:01 AM
Amazing that they found them shortly after the US Attorney General announced they would be going after hoarders / price gougers.

Bill Barr responds that they'll be crying tears for each million masks suddenly "found"...


https://youtu.be/R7uC5m-IRns

Hambo
03-27-2020, 12:48 PM
$5 a mask, big mark up for the union.

Where did you see what they paid the distributor for them?

okie john
03-27-2020, 01:06 PM
All over the country, independent small-business healthcare providers like veterinarians and dentists are donating ventilators and other medical gear to keep people alive. They're actually challenging other similar businesses to do the same. They may never get their gear back, and the expendable items like masks and gloves are gone for good.

The government is shoveling money into the economy.

And the SEIU brokers a deal to sell 39 million units at $5/ea.

Not a good look.


Okie John

Hambo
03-27-2020, 01:14 PM
All over the country, independent small-business healthcare providers like veterinarians and dentists are donating ventilators and other medical gear to keep people alive. They're actually challenging other similar businesses to do the same. They may never get their gear back, and the expendable items like masks and gloves are gone for good.

The government is shoveling money into the economy.

And the SEIU brokers a deal to sell 39 million units at $5/ea.

Not a good look.


Okie John

I'm not saying it's a good look, but people are assuming that SEIU got them dirt cheap/free. If SEIU paid ten cents each, they're scalping masks. If they paid $4.50 and cover shipping, not so much.

okie john
03-27-2020, 01:16 PM
I'm not saying it's a good look, but people are assuming that SEIU got them dirt cheap/free. If SEIU paid ten cents each, they're scalping masks. If they paid $4.50 and cover shipping, not so much.

Agreed. They definitely need to let people know the math behind the deal.


Okie John

GJM
03-27-2020, 01:28 PM
Where did you see what they paid the distributor for them?

I don’t know what they paid, but the going price today in a Covid pricing environment is less than $3, and a year ago, half that.

NEPAKevin
03-27-2020, 02:33 PM
What were N95's selling for before the Great Reset of 2020?

Last summer, I got a ten pack from Amazon for $13.58. Apparently that order also included Louis Awerbuck's Defensive Shotgun. :)


Order Placed: June 30, 2019
Shipped on July 3, 2019
Items Ordered Price
1 of: 3M 8511 Respirator, N95, Cool Flow Valve (10-Pack), 3M D
Sold by: Amazon.com Services LLC
Condition: New
$13.58
1 of: The Defensive Shotgun, Louis Awerbuck
Sold by: Amazon.com Services LLC
Condition: New

Borderland
03-27-2020, 03:42 PM
Cuomo was complaining that they were paying $5 now for a mask that cost under a buck beforehand.

What's the cost of a single illegally sold cigarette in NYC? My guess is about a buck and a beat down.

UNK
03-27-2020, 04:26 PM
Nobody who “needs” a N95 medical mask is gonna buy one. So the markup regardless of shipping is outrageous.

TAZ
03-27-2020, 05:38 PM
The Army just "found" 80,000 1911 pistols that had been in storage for 55 years. Funny how things just pop up from time to time.

Hey I got $5 for that. Where do I go pick one up????

KellyinAvon
03-27-2020, 05:46 PM
I wouldn't trust those purple-shirted thugs any further than I can throw a bull by the tail.

Borderland
03-27-2020, 05:57 PM
Hey I got $5 for that. Where do I go pick one up????

I've been after one for about 18 months. So far no cigar. I think they were probably worth about $100 when they were boxed up. Now about $1000 if you can live long enough to score one.:D

HCM
03-27-2020, 06:12 PM
The Army just "found" 80,000 1911 pistols that had been in storage for 55 years. Funny how things just pop up from time to time.

They didn't find anything. They were reserve war stock. with the adoption of the M17 the M9's will replace them 1911s in this role. The $1K goes to the DCM which is no longer tax payer supported and is now required to self fund.

Would you rather the DCM shut down ? Would you rather the Obama administration destroyed them ?

UNK
03-27-2020, 06:24 PM
Try googling SEIU crimes. They are some real scum. Organized crime perhaps?

Borderland
03-27-2020, 06:36 PM
They didn't find anything. They were reserve war stock. with the adoption of the M17 the M9's will replace them 1911s in this role. The $1K goes to the DCM which is no longer tax payer supported and is now required to self fund.

Would you rather the DCM shut down ? Would you rather the Obama administration destroyed them ?

Not the DCM any longer. Now called the CMP. I'm aware of where the 1K goes. They gave me a number in the pistol lottery in 2018.

Why would you think I would want the CMP to shut down or have those pistols destroyed. I collect USGI arms. :confused:

camsdaddy
03-27-2020, 07:11 PM
Ok the union is made up of healthcare workers. They won't to sell the government supplies to protect their members?

HCM
03-27-2020, 09:40 PM
Not the DCM any longer. Now called the CMP. I'm aware of where the 1K goes. They gave me a number in the pistol lottery in 2018.

Why would you think I would want the CMP to shut down or have those pistols destroyed. I collect USGI arms. :confused:

Maybe the post you made implying the Army “found” the current CMP 1911s and were now selling $100 guns for $1,000 as if it were something nefarious or you that you or others were somehow entitled to these guns at $100 each.

If you know how it works, then you are either trolling or need to take another look at your posts. Only you know for sure.

Borderland
03-27-2020, 10:02 PM
Maybe the post you made implying the Army “found” the current CMP 1911s and were now selling $100 guns for $1,000 as if it were something nefarious or you that you or others were somehow entitled to these guns at $100 each.

If you know how it works, then you are either trolling or need to take another look at your posts. Only you know for sure.

It's a financial move by the Army to get rid of some antique weapons that was costing them millions to store. I thought everyone was aware of the CMP sales. My post was TIC. But thanks for getting all of this information out to the general public. It's only been around for about two years now.

TGS
03-27-2020, 10:15 PM
It's a financial move by the Army to get rid of some antique weapons that was costing them millions to store. I thought everyone was aware of the CMP sales. My post was TIC. But thanks for getting all of this information out to the general public. It's only been around for about two years now.

1) The Army doesn't get paid for the weapons being released to CMP. It's of no financial gain to them. The only thing they get paid for by the CMP is the shipping of the firearms.

2) It didn't save the Army any "millions" in cost of weapons storage....those 1911s were replaced in reserve by M9s which will be there until you've long since passed away.

3) Stop being a turd by making incorrect, nebulous statements that jump from goalpost to goalpost.

okie john
03-28-2020, 01:28 AM
Stop being a turd by making incorrect, nebulous statements that jump from goalpost to goalpost.

This is sig line material of the first order.


Okie John

NEPAKevin
03-28-2020, 01:24 PM
Ok the union is made up of healthcare workers. They won't to sell the government supplies to protect their members?

Quite a few years back, the local hospital workers were on strike and IIRC, SEIU was organizing a protest at one of the neighboring college's auditoriums. One of the striking workers parked her car in the Hospital's ER parking so security had it towed. One of the purple shirts drove the woman to our impound yard to get her car and was being very vocal about the unfairness of the situation until I suggested that we didn't care who paid the bill and that they were welcome to do so. <crickets>

HCM
04-12-2020, 04:00 PM
https://www.ksat.com/health/2020/04/12/report-stockpile-of-39-million-masks-exposed-as-fake/

Report: Stockpile of 39 million masks exposed as fake


SACRAMENTO, Calif. – A major California labor union that claimed to have discovered a stockpile of 39 million masks for health care workers fighting the coronavirus was duped in an elaborate scam uncovered by FBI investigators, according to a newspaper report Sunday.

Investigators stumbled onto the scheme while looking into whether they could intercept the masks for the Federal Emergency Management Agency under the Defense Production Act, the U.S. attorney’s office said Friday.

The federal government has been quietly seizing supplies across the country as the outbreak spreads. But in this case, there was no warehouse, and there were no masks to seize, the Los Angeles Times reported.

U.S. Attorney Scott Brady told the Times that investigators tracked the tip back to a Pittsburgh businessman, who said he had been working with the Service Employees International Union-United Healthcare Workers West to secure millions of masks.

The businessman had been using WhatsApp to connect with a broker in Australia and a supplier in Kuwait, who are both now the target of a federal investigation, Brady said.

The union, known as SEIU, and the Pittsburgh businessman are not under investigation and both appear to be among a string of middlemen who were fooled, Brady said.




Brady said federal investigators had reason to suspect the arrangement. The 39 million masks were advertised as N95 masks from 3M, the largest U.S.-based manufacturer. But 3M told federal investigators it manufactured only 20 million such masks last year, making that large of a stockpile unlikely unless the product was counterfeit.

Duces Tecum
04-12-2020, 05:25 PM
The Army just "found" 80,000 1911 pistols that had been in storage for 55 years. Funny how things just pop up from time to time.

They're mine. Just this morning I was wondering where I put them.
Have the finder send me a pm right away, please.

If this works, I'll give you a roll of toilet paper.

Balisong
04-12-2020, 10:20 PM
They're mine. Just this morning I was wondering where I put them.
Have the finder send me a pm right away, please.

If this works, I'll give you a roll of toilet paper.

Nice try. Everyone knows only GJM could misplace 80,000 personally owned pistols he forgot he had.