View Full Version : DCC Monoblock Clips Are Now Available
blues
03-22-2020, 09:07 AM
https://discreetcarryconcepts.com/Monoblock-Gear-Clip%E2%84%A2-1-5-p166207310
Up for sale on the DCC site now...with or without the hardware. I ordered three this morning.
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Ordered. Hopefully i can get it to fit on my jmcustom aiwb
blues
03-22-2020, 10:32 AM
Ordered. Hopefully i can get it to fit on my jmcustom aiwb
I think it will fit as wide as 1.15"
(I have one that will just miss, but a few that they should work with.)
Tony Mayer
03-22-2020, 10:36 AM
Ordered. Hopefully i can get it to fit on my jmcustom aiwb
They will fit! If you have the wide hole pattern then you may need to just drill a hole.
We ordered a bunch and will be offering them on the website as soon as they get to our shop Monday or Tuesday!
N58JF
03-22-2020, 11:06 AM
Thanks for the heads up. I ordered some. Glad to hear that I can get them on my next JMCK holster, too.
WobblyPossum
03-22-2020, 11:11 AM
Does anyone know if they’ll fit on the Mastermind Tactics holsters? I’ve always wanted to replace those clips with something more secure.
blues
03-22-2020, 11:15 AM
Does anyone know if they’ll fit on the Mastermind Tactics holsters? I’ve always wanted to replace those clips with something more secure.
I've measured the holes on both of mine and they should be perfect replacements.
I'll be replacing the PTD loops on both of those, as well as my JMCK George. (Assuming I like the monoblock as much as the PTDs after some carry.)
They won't fit either of my DSG holsters. Close on one, but not the other.
WobblyPossum
03-22-2020, 11:26 AM
I've measured the holes on both of mine and they should be perfect replacements.
I'll be replacing the PTD loops on both of those, as well as my JMCK George. (Assuming I like the monoblock as much as the PTDs after some carry.)
They won't fit either of my DSG holsters. Close on one, but not the other.
Perfect. Thank you. I’ll be ordering two then.
theJanitor
03-22-2020, 11:48 AM
I just ordered three. Hopefully I can make one work on the SME
SeriousStudent
03-22-2020, 01:06 PM
Thanks, blues. I ordered a couple of sets for me, and a couple for my favorite knife-maker.
Blackbag
03-22-2020, 01:34 PM
They will fit! If you have the wide hole pattern then you may need to just drill a hole.
We ordered a bunch and will be offering them on the website as soon as they get to our shop Monday or Tuesday!
Will you offer these on quick ship holsters or just custom orders?
John
Tony Mayer
03-22-2020, 05:22 PM
Will you offer these on quick ship holsters or just custom orders?
John
Quick ship and Custom both!
Thanks
Blackbag
03-22-2020, 05:27 PM
Quick ship and Custom both!
Thanks
Thank you sir! Will probably order an AIWB with the new clip and red dot cut for my new Glock 17 MOS with ACRO as soon as they are available.
John
Just sent a note to tenicor inquiring as whether it will fit on my gen4 velo for a glock.
SouthNarc
03-22-2020, 06:45 PM
Just sent a note to tenicor inquiring as whether it will fit on my gen4 velo for a glock.
The Monobloc is a budget option from DCC and I don't think Jeff is doing them for Velos. DCC already does a specific clip for Tenicor..
I could be talking out of my ass too so check me on that.
blues
03-22-2020, 07:07 PM
Just sent a note to tenicor inquiring as whether it will fit on my gen4 velo for a glock.
This version of the Monoblock will not fit the Velo 4 because the hole pattern is 1.5" apart. Whether there will be another version, I have no clue.
boing
03-23-2020, 12:38 PM
Would it kill clip manufacturers to state the dimension of the spacing behind the clip? I’ve had numerous clips that worked OK with a thin belt and waistband, but bowed outwards with a thick belt and jeans, making them useless.
blues
03-23-2020, 12:41 PM
Would it kill clip manufacturers to state the dimension of the spacing behind the clip? I’ve had numerous clips that worked OK with a thin belt and waistband, but bowed outwards with a thick belt and jeans, making them useless.
You can use washers or O-rings to compensate there. But I agree, it's something I was thinking about as well.
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boing
03-23-2020, 12:45 PM
You can use washers or O-rings to compensate there. But I agree, it's something I was thinking about as well.
All my jmck holsters have extra washers added, and the clips molded with heat to increase the hook angle. I wonder how well the DCC clip takes a bend. Some metal clips respond better than others to “manipulation”. It would be cheap enough to find out, I guess.
EDIT: looking at that picture, it looks like there’s a pretty serious angle to the flat of the mounting holes. Bending probably wouldn’t be necessary.
Duces Tecum
03-23-2020, 01:05 PM
I'm sure there's an advantage, but I'm not very clear on what it might be.
What does this "split-clip" do that (a) a single DCC won't, or (b) two more widely spaced clips?
littlejerry
03-23-2020, 01:10 PM
Looks awesome. Just ordered for my George AIWB.
Would love to see a version with wide hook spacing to allow it to straddle a belt loop.
HCountyGuy
03-23-2020, 01:10 PM
I'm sure there's an advantage, but I'm not very clear on what it might be.
What does this "split-clip" do that (a) a single DCC won't, or (b) two more widely spaced clips?
Mostly it replaces the shitty plastic clip most holsters use. If it performs as well as other DCC clips, it’s a bit of a fight to get it off versus how the standard plastic clip barely grips on and can remove the holster easily.
HCountyGuy
03-23-2020, 01:11 PM
Looks awesome. Just ordered for my George AIWB.
Would love to see a version with wide hook spacing to allow it to straddle a belt loop.
I asked if they would do something like that. It’s on the project list but they’ve got other things they’re working on currently.
Irelander
03-23-2020, 01:36 PM
Wonder how the Monoblock compares with the Concealment Clips?50477
orionz06
03-23-2020, 01:42 PM
The Monobloc is a budget option from DCC
Less budget. It's cheaper because it's a little easier to make.
Wonder how the Monoblock compares with the Concealment Clips?
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DCC has done a ton of work on the metallurgy side to make their products work. The others are fine, just not in the same league.
Irelander
03-23-2020, 03:48 PM
DCC has done a ton of work on the metallurgy side to make their products work. The others are fine, just not in the same league.
You had me at metallurgy. Ordered 2.
Mirolynmonbro
03-23-2020, 04:53 PM
Wonder how the Monoblock compares with the Concealment Clips?[ATTACH=CONFIG]50477[ATTACH]
I thought about ordering a set too but there's really nothing wrong with my Concealment Clip
Irelander
03-24-2020, 09:44 AM
I thought about ordering a set too but there's really nothing wrong with my Concealment Clip
True. Just thought I'd try a set to compare.
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No need to drill anything
Blades
03-25-2020, 05:08 PM
DCC doesn't mess around! Mine showed up today.
Tony Mayer
03-25-2020, 08:16 PM
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No need to drill anything
Nice!!
Tony Mayer
03-25-2020, 08:31 PM
We got our Monoblocks in, should have them up on the website in a few days. If you want them on a holster before they are available on the website, just let me know in the comments. A typical bad ass product from DCC!
WobblyPossum
03-25-2020, 08:35 PM
I installed two of these clips on two Mastermind Tactics holsters using the DCC hardware kits. The way the holsters are built, there’s no space between the square nuts and the slide of the pistol. I scratched my SIRT slide on the nuts dry firing after the install. I’ve added a layer of duct tape over the nuts to mitigate this but am looking for an alternative mounting hardware solution.
blues
03-25-2020, 09:34 PM
I installed two of these clips on two Mastermind Tactics holsters using the DCC hardware kits. The way the holsters are built, there’s no space between the square nuts and the slide of the pistol. I scratched my SIRT slide on the nuts dry firing after the install. I’ve added a layer of duct tape over the nuts to mitigate this but am looking for an alternative mounting hardware solution.
Didn't work for my JMCK George...the square nut hit my G26 slide, and the clip itself didn't fit over my Mastermind belt properly. (It's one of the older models that's a bit thicker than newer versions.)
C'est la vie.
My thicker leather belts dont fit. It is very stable. Doing dryfire drill i was very happy with it.
I may experiment with a spacer to allow thicker belts.
Tony Mayer
03-26-2020, 08:33 AM
Didn't work for my JMCK George...the square nut hit my G26 slide, and the clip itself didn't fit over my Mastermind belt properly. (It's one of the older models that's a bit thicker than newer versions.)
C'est la vie.
blues, hit me up if you need some different backers to try.
blues
03-26-2020, 09:00 AM
blues, hit me up if you need some different backers to try.
Thanks, Tony. I had a very pleasant "conversation" with Matt via email yesterday and I'm good sticking with the PTD loops on the "George" which continues to be just a great holster. (Really doesn't need a wing or claw to conceal for me...just a good wedge to keep things tucked in.)
Matt (DCC) is a class act.
And so are you. I appreciate the kind offer.
theJanitor
03-26-2020, 07:46 PM
It took a few o-rings but the clips fit onto the SME pretty well. It solved three of the problems I had with the holster originally, the loops were too tight to slide my belt through. And I need to be able to don/doff the holster quickly. Lastly. The holster is just too bulky at the loop area
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orionz06
03-26-2020, 08:25 PM
Oh.... Now that... That I wanna do.
Allright, now i want a clip for my jm 2.5 with 2.5" spacing
NoLock
03-30-2020, 09:37 PM
Anyone try mounting it on a Keeper Lite? The holes on the holster are exactly one inch apart so it looks like it will fit.
It seems the holes on the monoblock are bigger than the screws. Obviously on the horizontal to accommodate different holster manufacturer's hole spacing but how about on the vertical? Is there room for minor cant and height adjustment?
theJanitor
03-31-2020, 04:14 PM
The addition of these clips to the 5Shot SME is transformative. The holster is now perfect for me.
SeriousStudent
03-31-2020, 06:58 PM
Anyone try mounting it on a Keeper Lite? The holes on the holster are exactly one inch apart so it looks like it will fit.
It seems the holes on the monoblock are bigger than the screws. Obviously on the horizontal to accommodate different holster manufacturer's hole spacing but how about on the vertical? Is there room for minor cant and height adjustment?
I have an Errand, and am going to try that.
Correction - my daughter has an Errand, I have a missing Glock and it's accompanying holster.
NoLock
03-31-2020, 08:25 PM
I have an Errand, and am going to try that.
Correction - my daughter has an Errand, I have a missing Glock and it's accompanying holster.
Thank you.
HCountyGuy
04-01-2020, 06:42 PM
Just mounted mine to a CCC Shaggy and it’s an extraordinary improvement over the FOMI. Far more secure and the Mono actually sets the holster ride height at the perfect level for me in the additional holes I had drilled for the FOMI clip. I had actually drilled two additional sets but this fits perfectly at the middle.
Went ahead and ordered a Wing Claw 2.5 with a Monoblock to try out this and JMCK's more recent design. Pretty excited about both.
Wyoming Shooter
04-12-2020, 04:47 PM
I have a Spartan Blades Enyo https://spartanbladesusa.com/shop-all/enyo-inside-waist-band-neck-knife-edc/ which comes with a nice IWB/Neck kydex sheath. I'd like to carry OWB at appendix position, parallel with 1.5" belt (horizontal). DCC makes some products that look like they would work. Any thoughts as to what might be my best option? Thanks very much.
blues
04-12-2020, 04:51 PM
I have a Spartan Blades Enyo https://spartanbladesusa.com/shop-all/enyo-inside-waist-band-neck-knife-edc/ which comes with a nice IWB/Neck kydex sheath. I'd like to carry OWB at appendix position, parallel with 1.5" belt (horizontal). DCC makes some products that look like they would work. Any thoughts as to what might be my best option? Thanks very much.
Matt at DCC is very quick to reply to email and a true gentleman. info@discreetcarryconcepts.com
Might be worth asking the man himself.
Wyoming Shooter
04-12-2020, 04:58 PM
I just did! Matt replied within 5 minutes - not something I expected, especially on Easter Sunday. :) It sounds like the factory sheath may not work:
"Carrying horizontally will be difficult to accomplish with the factory Enyo sheath. In my experience, most guys will have another sheath made with provisions for a center mounted clip. Once setup that way, the combination of a piece of bicycle tire inner tubing plus the clip will allow you to place the sheath through a belt loop and it will not go anywhere.
The original sheath has a fairly large footprint and will not allow for a center mounted clip. A few companies that come to mind for making quality sheaths are Blade Rigs, Darwin Concealment and Zulu Bravo Kydex.
Matt"
Matt at DCC is very quick to reply to email and a true gentleman. info@discreetcarryconcepts.com
Might be worth asking the man himself.
orionz06
04-12-2020, 05:16 PM
A new sheath would be the way to roll.
Up1911Fan
04-12-2020, 05:30 PM
Are Bladerigs still a thing? Love the sheaths I have from them, but the website is gutted and I haven't seen them on IG in months.
UsedJuniper
05-02-2020, 05:27 PM
Picked up a set for my G43 Errand. Really helps lower the profile of an already very concealable holster. The included mounting kit isn't the most ideal, and I'm still waiting to see how it'll work out over time, but I'm largely very happy with the DCC Monoblock clips.
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They even included a second set for free:D
theJanitor
05-04-2020, 01:22 PM
;) both of my SME got these clips as soon as they were available from DCC.
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frozentundra
05-26-2020, 09:57 AM
How are these holding up for people?
Do you find they can snag a lightweight cover garment on the draw in the 3:00(ish) position? I ran into this problem with a larger plastic clip I tried many years ago. Pull-the-dot loops have been my preference since that experience, but they do add some extra bulk. I've been thinking about switching to fixed soft loops, but I'm not sure how much that'll buy me, and now I'm spoiled with easy on/off and the ability to rapidly adjust placement based on situational activity.
Also, the mounting hardware from DCC is different than I expected. What are people preferring for hardware? I'm using JM Custom IWB3 and CCC Uno holsters.
Colt191145lover
05-26-2020, 10:55 AM
So far I really love the DCC clips!
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UsedJuniper
05-26-2020, 11:21 AM
I can't exactly speak to the 3:00 draw position, but I personally feel that they have a much lower tendency to snag or catch cover garment just because of how thin they are.
The DCC clips aren't the easiest thing to don and doff but are hella secure.
The included mounting hardware didn't exactly work the best for me, although I think that's a shared fault of both the holster and hardware. I found that the nuts would drag along the frame and leave a groove. I still need to get around to finding new hardware, but I just haven't had time.
If your choice is between a plastic clip like a FOMI, I'd pick this.
How are these holding up for people?
Do you find they can snag a lightweight cover garment on the draw in the 3:00(ish) position? I ran into this problem with a larger plastic clip I tried many years ago. Pull-the-dot loops have been my preference since that experience, but they do add some extra bulk. I've been thinking about switching to fixed soft loops, but I'm not sure how much that'll buy me, and now I'm spoiled with easy on/off and the ability to rapidly adjust placement based on situational activity.
Also, the mounting hardware from DCC is different than I expected. What are people preferring for hardware? I'm using JM Custom IWB3 and CCC Uno holsters.
NoLock
06-03-2020, 01:18 PM
Picked up a set for my G43 Errand. Really helps lower the profile of an already very concealable holster. The included mounting kit isn't the most ideal, and I'm still waiting to see how it'll work out over time, but I'm largely very happy with the DCC Monoblock clips.
53269
They even included a second set for free:D
Is there room for adjustability for cant?
UsedJuniper
06-03-2020, 01:28 PM
There technically is, but it's very very slight. It's more of a straight up and down clip.
Any variation in the position is going to be mostly side to side, not at an angle.
Is there room for adjustability for cant?
Irelander
06-03-2020, 01:59 PM
Enjoying the Monoblock for my PPS Errand. Been using this setup for non-belt use a lot lately. Works great.
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frozentundra
06-03-2020, 03:25 PM
Is there room for adjustability for cant?
I've got a different holster, different position, with DCC mounting hardware. The included hardware worked for me. I can achieve an angle that makes the slide contact the hardware, but it doesn't touch in normal circumstances. I would be nervous if was a bespoke 1911. I'm not worried about my Glock.
There wasn't much play to adjust the cant angle with my CCC Uno. I rotated the clip down until it was "bolt bound" in order to minimize the cant as much as possible. There's probably a few degrees of movement, but it isn't very much. You can see in one of the pictures how the hardware is offset from the top edge of the clip as much as the holes will allow without modification.
This seems by far the highest quality clip I've seen. It fits perfectly on my Graith Specialist belt. I've tried everything to make it snag a shirt on the draw, and I simply can't get it to happen.
It does increase the ride height very slightly compared to pull-the-dot soft loops. Also, I think loosing the extra bulk of the snaps actually may cause some shirts to drape more predominately on the back of the slide in the 3:00 position. So I may be gaining in one place to loose in another.
It's a great product, but I'm not ready to replace all my pull-dot loops yet. I'll live with it for a month or two and reconsider.
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NoLock
06-04-2020, 12:30 PM
Thanks guys! Just ordered one.
theJanitor
09-15-2020, 07:46 PM
I got the DCC monoblock to fit a holster with wide hole spacing. all it took was a vice, a hacksaw, and a grinding wheel. :cool:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50347209031_5925b29381_b.jpg
I got the DCC monoblock to fit a holster with wide hole spacing. all it took was a vice, a hacksaw, and a grinding wheel. :cool:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50347209031_5925b29381_b.jpg
Genius
Bet that would work on mag pouches with spacing to close too
Irelander
09-16-2020, 11:14 AM
I got the DCC monoblock to fit a holster with wide hole spacing. all it took was a vice, a hacksaw, and a grinding wheel. :cool:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50347209031_5925b29381_b.jpg
Cool. How stable are the single hooks? Just wondering if over time they will rotate due to only being held with one screw.
theJanitor
09-16-2020, 11:18 AM
Cool. How stable are the single hooks? Just wondering if over time they will rotate due to only being held with one screw.
There's an o-ring in there, so that helps. I predict it will be about the same as PTD loops which only have a single attachment point. I'll probably cut a PTD loop and use that material in place of the o-ring
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Yes they rotate a bit but that doesn't effect it while its on the belt
Eta, tin snips worked great
Irelander
10-01-2020, 08:04 AM
You Monoblock destroyers got me thinking. The Concealment Clip I was using on my George holster interfered with belt loops on my new Duluth jeans. I couldn't get to my sweet spot. So I switched over to a Monoblock and removed one of the clips. We'll see if this works out better for me.
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theJanitor
10-01-2020, 05:21 PM
You Monoblock destroyers got me thinking. The Concealment Clip I was using on my George holster interfered with belt loops on my new Duluth jeans. I couldn't get to my sweet spot. So I switched over to a Monoblock and removed one of the clips. We'll see if this works out better for me.
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love the anti-rotation capability of that clip :)
MattyD380
11-09-2020, 01:51 AM
I'm planning to order a set of these for a JM George (P239). Any sense of how/if they would impact the "flop forward factor" vs. PTD loops? My hypothesis is that they might hold the holster in a little tighter/closer and keep it from pitching forward? But who knows. In a T-shirt, my current setup with the George prints a decent amount, even with the higher set of holes and a pad. Hoping I can get it to work the way I want it by using these and a wedge.
littlejerry
11-09-2020, 07:46 AM
I'm planning to order a set of these for a JM George (P239). Any sense of how/if they would impact the "flop forward factor" vs. PTD loops? My hypothesis is that they might hold the holster in a little tighter/closer and keep it from pitching forward? But who knows. In a T-shirt, my current setup with the George prints a decent amount, even with the higher set of holes and a pad. Hoping I can get it to work the way I want it by using these and a wedge.
PTD snaps print like crazy for me. Not because of the stability or positioning of the gun, just the thickness of the loops which never seem to lay flat on my belt, and the height/thickness of the snaps themselves. I have a 30" waist, so adding a 1.5" chunk to my beltline is pretty noticeable.
The DCC monoblock is my preferred attachment now. It's lower profile than anything else I've tried, including their standard tuckable grips.
orionz06
11-09-2020, 08:07 AM
I'm planning to order a set of these for a JM George (P239). Any sense of how/if they would impact the "flop forward factor" vs. PTD loops? My hypothesis is that they might hold the holster in a little tighter/closer and keep it from pitching forward? But who knows. In a T-shirt, my current setup with the George prints a decent amount, even with the higher set of holes and a pad. Hoping I can get it to work the way I want it by using these and a wedge.
They will not hold things any closer, they are outside of the belt and unable to influence things that way.
Hot Cereal
11-09-2020, 08:45 AM
I wish the FOMI could be cast to the pits of hell, never to be seen again. So man holsters boast the "easy on, easy off" line. I have never understood why someone would want an easy off holster. I need to get a couple DCCs.
I can't stand the FOMI. I second the desire for a wide version to straddle a belt loop.
pastaslinger
11-09-2020, 02:24 PM
I'm planning to order a set of these for a JM George (P239). Any sense of how/if they would impact the "flop forward factor" vs. PTD loops? My hypothesis is that they might hold the holster in a little tighter/closer and keep it from pitching forward? But who knows. In a T-shirt, my current setup with the George prints a decent amount, even with the higher set of holes and a pad. Hoping I can get it to work the way I want it by using these and a wedge.
I think there is less flop forward in my limited experiences with the monoblock versus PTD loops provided you tighten your belt appropriately.
MattyD380
11-09-2020, 05:27 PM
Cool. Thanks for the insight, guys. Gonna give it a whirl, either way. Hopefully I can make this George work. I keep going back to a shitty soft holster for AIWB with my P239s, because it rides lower and bulges less. But, I'd really like to get something more secure and stable. That also doesn't make me look like I have some kind of bizarre abdominal hernia.
Irelander
06-17-2021, 11:37 AM
orionz06 Any idea if DCC is considering making a split Monoblock for straddling a belt loop. I've been think of cutting one apart and making my own rig for this but am hoping DCC has something in the works.
orionz06
06-17-2021, 04:25 PM
orionz06 Any idea if DCC is considering making a split Monoblock for straddling a belt loop. I've been think of cutting one apart and making my own rig for this but am hoping DCC has something in the works.
Doubtful. Bear in mind that this is a FOMI upgrade, not a primary attachment, if that makes sense. The HLR series is the better stuff, and that might be workable for what you're seeking.
I've been wishing DCC would make a monoblock for a 1.75" belt and this thread reminded me about that again, so I emailed them today to ask if there was one available or if, in the alternative, there was an HLR clip that attached at the top of a holster or sheath instead of the bottom. They emailed me back really quickly and I was told that they're working on a 1.75 monoblock as well as a single-leg monoblock that attaches at the top. Both are still in development, maybe by year-end (or maybe not).
ETA: The response was astonishingly fast. If they make the clip I need, I will be happier to spend my money with them than I have been with anybody in a long time.
orionz06 Any idea if DCC is considering making a split Monoblock for straddling a belt loop. I've been think of cutting one apart and making my own rig for this but am hoping DCC has something in the works.
Not sure it will help, but I stole from a picture online of a holster by orionz06 with a HLR single clip attached to the wing claw. I have one of those clips en route from DCC to try out on my Hitchhiker.
Irelander
06-19-2021, 02:30 PM
Took matters into my own hands.
Hopefully they stay put as is. I like a little bit of reverse cant.
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Not sure it will help, but I stole from a picture online of a holster by orionz06 with a HLR single clip attached to the wing claw. I have one of those clips en route from DCC to try out on my Hitchhiker.
FWIW this is where I ended up with the single DCC clip (Mod 4 - HLR Discreet Gear Clip™ - 1.5" belt- SHS) on my Dark Star Gear Hitchhiker. Carry is better than with the single large steel clip, the holster tilts just ever so slightly on my belt affording a better match to the guns grip angle.
I did attach it to the wing claw at first, but the position of the steel clip part fouled my draw hand, so it is not as flat as I hoped now. But still, it's another incremental improvement in my path on AIWB.
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