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LittleLebowski
02-25-2020, 02:09 PM
Wilder is blaming his walkout suit over his legs being lacking in strength during the fight. Tyson Fury literally licked Wilder's blood during the match. You can't make this stuff up :D

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/deontay-wilder-40-pound-costume-tyson-fury

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/76/4by3/2020/02/24/76c9a3d011654b51a8eaf368bf5ea3fa_md.jpg

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/d6b6441381d401ba05a3714e16cd7da6?width=700

RevolverRob
02-25-2020, 02:17 PM
Wilder should probably just admit that it was those liver shots from Fury that made his legs weak.

I didn't see the fight, just the highlights, but at least twice Fury hit Wilder for what could have been fight ending liver shots, at least one resulted in a knockdown.

I mean seriously, was Fury hanging out with Bas Rutten? Those were NASTY hits.

jetfire
02-25-2020, 02:19 PM
Tyson straight up beat the shit out of Wilder, it wasn't even close. Even if Wilder had somehow survived and the fight gone the distance, Fury won every single round that they had fought so far.

RevolverRob
02-25-2020, 02:22 PM
Tyson straight up beat the shit out of Wilder, it wasn't even close. Even if Wilder had somehow survived and the fight gone the distance, Fury won every single round that they had fought so far.

Concur. Just from watching the highlights, Fury had Wilder beat - entirely.

I think Wilder's corner saved his career and ability to fight another day by throwing in the towel. Seriously, if that fight went the distance, I wonder if Wilder would have been able to fight at any point again in the next 12-months. He was getting his ass beat down by a man who is 6'9" and weighs 275 pounds, which hurts period, but for 12 rounds? I dunno.

LittleLebowski
02-25-2020, 02:22 PM
I don't think his 40lb costume made the walkout that grueling.

blues
02-25-2020, 02:59 PM
Tyson Fury literally licked Wilder's blood during the match.

The name alone carries a certain responsibility with it...



https://youtu.be/zKPMVex-UKk

bofe954
02-25-2020, 03:08 PM
I don't think his 40lb costume made the walkout that grueling.

I guess there's something to the Iron Mike walkout. Black shoes, no socks and a sweatshirt cut into a rag around your neck.

TheNewbie
02-25-2020, 03:11 PM
I thought costumes were for WWE. What’s up with this?

RevolverRob
02-25-2020, 03:19 PM
I thought costumes were for WWE. What’s up with this?

UFC.

Frankly, with the rise of the UFC and mixed martial arts dominating fights, boxing needs pageantry to compete for views in many respects. If you want to see GOOD fights, you don't watch boxing, you watch MMA and in particular UFC or Bellator. Or you watch low-level pro of Pro-Am boxing.

I love a good fight, boxing has mostly gone defensive compared to UFC. It is often quite boring to watch and only when big egos face off in the ring is it entertaining any longer. I find myself only glancing at the Friday Night Fights on ESPN once in awhile, because I like fights, just as often I find myself yelling, "Someone punch someone!"

In my opinion, boxing was ruined not only be questions of credibility, but also by people like Floyd Mayweather. I'm going to do enough to win by decision in 12-rounds, rather than actually fight. Then claim that I am the winningest fighter or all time, because I'm 50-0. It's hard to get beat if you never fight or only fight scrubs. He's no Rocky Marciano, though he claims to be better. Rocky went 49-0 in his career with 43 wins by knockout. Mayweather is 50-0 with only 27 knockouts. That's the kind of thing that leads to costumes and other garbage.

Fortunately, Fury gave us a good fight, would have been better if Wilder was better prepared, but he was not.

TheNewbie
02-25-2020, 03:30 PM
UFC.

Frankly, with the rise of the UFC and mixed martial arts dominating fights, boxing needs pageantry to compete for views in many respects. If you want to see GOOD fights, you don't watch boxing, you watch MMA and in particular UFC or Bellator. Or you watch low-level pro of Pro-Am boxing.

I love a good fight, boxing has mostly gone defensive compared to UFC. It is often quite boring to watch and only when big egos face off in the ring is it entertaining any longer. I find myself only glancing at the Friday Night Fights on ESPN once in awhile, because I like fights, just as often I find myself yelling, "Someone punch someone!"

In my opinion, boxing was ruined not only be questions of credibility, but also by people like Floyd Mayweather. I'm going to do enough to win by decision in 12-rounds, rather than actually fight. Then claim that I am the winningest fighter or all time, because I'm 50-0. It's hard to get beat if you never fight or only fight scrubs. He's no Rocky Marciano, though he claims to be better. Rocky went 49-0 in his career with 43 wins by knockout. Mayweather is 50-0 with only 27 knockouts. That's the kind of thing that leads to costumes and other garbage.

Fortunately, Fury gave us a good fight, would have been better if Wilder was better prepared, but he was not.

I watched some of the old UFC stuff from the 90s. That was entertaining to me.

jellydonut
02-25-2020, 03:43 PM
The name alone carries a certain responsibility with it...



https://youtu.be/zKPMVex-UKk

He was named after Mike Tyson.


At three months premature, Tyson's life hung in the balance when he was born in Wythenshawe Hospital. (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/9900898/tyson-fury-heavyweight-champion-otto-wallin/)

Medical professionals thought he was too weak to survive, but dad John believed his new-born son was going to pull through.

“I told them God was looking down on him,” he said.

“I said, ‘He’ll be alright. He will be 7ft, 20 stone and heavyweight champion of the world.’ And I named him Tyson, after Mike Tyson.”

45dotACP
02-25-2020, 03:47 PM
Fury outboxed Wilder plain and simple.

Dunno why boxing needs the pagentry though. They still make way more than MMA fighters.

I heard somewhere that Mayweather made 100 million for that exhibition match with McGregor, but when Khabib said he'd fight McGregor again he said it would only happen for 100 million and the sport is still kinda snort laughing.


But yeah, I enjoy watching MMA fights more. Especially now that I know some stuff about some things relating to unarmed fighting.

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RevolverRob
02-25-2020, 03:55 PM
I watched some of the old UFC stuff from the 90s. That was entertaining to me.

The prelim fights before UFC PPVs are actually probably the better matches in many cases, not all, but many. A couple of weeks ago in the prelims of UFC 247 there are two great bouts -

A middleweight mens between Trevin Giles and James Krause and a flyweight womens bout between Lauren Murphy and Andrea Lee. Both fights went the distance and were tough split decisions - both fights were thoroughly entertaining. I was far more entertained by those fights than the main card. (One reason why I don't usually pay for the maincard PPVs anymore).



But yeah, I enjoy watching MMA fights more. Especially now that I know some stuff about some things relating to unarmed fighting.

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Same for me.

FPS
02-25-2020, 04:53 PM
I don't know - Vasily Lomachenko, Gennady Golovkin, Canelo Alvares - none of them are boring or defensive fighters.

rd62
02-25-2020, 07:07 PM
He was named after Mike Tyson.

I wonder if his pop would send me some lottery numbers? He's downright prophetic.

Greg
02-25-2020, 07:48 PM
Wilder has skipped Leg Day every day of his life. He has chopsticks for legs.

Fury fought a simple but effective plan. Many punchers (like Wilder) can't generate power if you drive them backwards. Fury came forward all night and used his extra 40 pounds of weight to wear down those chopsticks.

He said he would do it but nobody (myself included) thought he would, because he has never fought that way before. It was a hell of a performance.

Borderland
02-25-2020, 08:35 PM
Now I have to go watch this on YT.

Paul D
02-25-2020, 10:21 PM
When Fury busted Wilder's ear drum, that's probably when his legs got wobbly. If he did truly ruptured his tympanic membrane, Wilder's equilibrium would be affected. It is good his corner threw in the towel because Fury could have really hurt him bad. I would love to see Fury vs Joshua.

Wingate's Hairbrush
02-26-2020, 07:50 AM
When Fury busted Wilder's ear drum, that's probably when his legs got wobbly. If he did truly ruptured his tympanic membrane, Wilder's equilibrium would be affected. It is good his corner threw in the towel because Fury could have really hurt him bad. I would love to see Fury vs Joshua.This was my thinking, too, watching the fight; but Team Wilder has confirmed no ear drum injury, no concussion, no broken jaw -- all of which had been speculated. The blood around his ear was from a small, external cut that was later sutured.

Wilder's blaming the costume for exhausting him, the ref for being against him, his corner for protecting him -- everyone but himself and Fury. Not very sportsmanlike. https://sports.yahoo.com/deontay-wilder-says-40-pound-costume-left-his-legs-dead-in-a-seventhround-tko-loss-to-tyson-fury-215534451.html

I'm not a Fury or a Wilder fan -- watching them fight (twice) is like watching two giraffes ballroom dance -- and this era's heavyweight division in general is an embarrassment, but credit to Fury, he gets the wins, no matter how conventionally terrible he looks doing it.

jc000
02-26-2020, 09:40 AM
I don't know - Vasily Lomachenko, Gennady Golovkin, Canelo Alvares - none of them are boring or defensive fighters.

Agreed. I can't stand watching the current UFC / two wrestlers leaning on each other against the cage for 'X' rounds. There are quite a few exciting boxers (love Loma) and Tyson Fury is sure at the top. IMO, one of the most exciting HW I've seen, ever.

45dotACP
02-26-2020, 01:31 PM
I'm somewhat surprised that kickboxing or Muay Thai isn't more popular in the states. For guys who don't have the interest in the grappling aspect of the UFC I bet they'd still love watching guys like Rico Verhooven or go through some of the MT fights with guys like Saenchai or Buakaw.

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Borderland
02-26-2020, 02:50 PM
UFC.

Frankly, with the rise of the UFC and mixed martial arts dominating fights, boxing needs pageantry to compete for views in many respects. If you want to see GOOD fights, you don't watch boxing, you watch MMA and in particular UFC or Bellator. Or you watch low-level pro of Pro-Am boxing.

I love a good fight, boxing has mostly gone defensive compared to UFC. It is often quite boring to watch and only when big egos face off in the ring is it entertaining any longer. I find myself only glancing at the Friday Night Fights on ESPN once in awhile, because I like fights, just as often I find myself yelling, "Someone punch someone!"

In my opinion, boxing was ruined not only be questions of credibility, but also by people like Floyd Mayweather. I'm going to do enough to win by decision in 12-rounds, rather than actually fight. Then claim that I am the winningest fighter or all time, because I'm 50-0. It's hard to get beat if you never fight or only fight scrubs. He's no Rocky Marciano, though he claims to be better. Rocky went 49-0 in his career with 43 wins by knockout. Mayweather is 50-0 with only 27 knockouts. That's the kind of thing that leads to costumes and other garbage.

Fortunately, Fury gave us a good fight, would have been better if Wilder was better prepared, but he was not.

It's a lot like football. I've been watching a few games lately but it's changed considerably the last 40 years. In the good old days people got hit and the running game was the way you won. Mostly you had to have good running backs or you were nobody. Now it's all the 20 million dollar QB and 3 or 4 very good recievers. You can't touch the QB or anyone downfield anymore either so the yardage is easy. Not so much 40 years ago.

Larry Holmes successfully defended his title 20 times. He even defeated Muhammad Ali. Those guys were the creme of the crop. Never happen again.

blues
02-26-2020, 03:08 PM
I loved boxing in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Moved on for the most part since. Saw some fantastic bouts during those years in multiple weight divisions. Even got to meet a few greats along the way.

Casual Friday
02-26-2020, 05:28 PM
I'm not surprised that Fury won, but I was in awe watching it as there really hasn't been a beat down like that in boxing in a long time. Wilder was exposed during their last fight, and the second fight with Ortiz even though he scored the knockout against Ortiz.

Fury won the first fight too, he outscored Wilder the whole fight and really the only thing Wilder did was knock him down but that was enough to sway the judges to call it a draw.

It hasn't exactly been a secret that Wilder is a one trick pony, but when that one trick is a near automatic turn the lights out trick, it's easy to see how he's been able to rack up the amount of KO's that he has.

Tyson Fury is a complete fighter though and it showed Saturday night. I don't need to see a third fight between them, I'll watch it if it happens, but it will go down exactly like this one. Fury will have his number.

I think Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua is the fight to make and I see Fury picking Joshua apart, not as badly as he did Wilder, but he'll beat him.

Wilder has 30 days to exercise the rematch clause but I don't think that's what's best for him. He should alter his training accordingly, fight a couple schlubs to build his confidence back before trying to reclaim the title.

BigD
02-27-2020, 06:42 AM
I thought costumes were for WWE. What’s up with this?


UFC.
.

Prince Naseem floated into the ring on a magic carpet in 2000 (a year before the Fertittas bought the struggling UFC for a measly $2m.) Boxing has a history of theatrical entrances that long predates the popularity of the UFC.

Sporting events are becoming more of a spectacle as they compete for viewers’ attention. Look at the Super Bowl halftime shows over the years, and how even the college football national championship game which now has a big halftime show. Everything is a production these days.